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US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With Israel

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 439828
7/22/2008 8:58 PM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

"US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With Israel"

About bloody time if its true, does this mean the demented US Admin will stop their pathetic vetoing of UN Resolutions against the evil Israeli government?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 434826
7/22/2008 9:04 PM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

US is ‘nearing an imminent split’

Oh does that explain the stockmarket volatility of late.

I remember when Bush first came in as President, he said his admin. would adopt a hands off approach to that part of the world, and then a very short while later, down came the towers and he has been towing-the-line ever since.

Whats the bet that between now and when he leaves office he will be putting serious work into undermining that region - with Putin's help.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 446728
7/22/2008 9:17 PM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

I would just like to say, 'As you turned away from Ed and Elaine Brown' in their hour of need, so God will turn away from you'. As you choose to be blind except to your own person, so God will be blind to you.

"I SHALL JUDGE NARROWLY" Aton [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]


As you..
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 446728
7/22/2008 9:23 PM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

- with Putin's help.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 434826


No. "the bristles on the back of the Russian Bear are standing up because that Bush Lie is aimed at Russia. If you do not know what that means, it means DO NOT PROVOKE ANY MORE!" [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]


Without Putin's help.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 446728
7/22/2008 11:04 PM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

How to interpret the Third Secret of Fatima.


-Vatican ré the Conversion of Russia to Mary's Immaculate heart.

“The third part of the secret refers to Our Lady's words: ‘If not [Russia] will spread her errors throughout the world, causing wars and persecutions of the Church. The good will be martyred; the Holy Father will have much to suffer; various nations will be annihilated' (13-VII-1917).

The third part of the secret is a symbolic revelation, referring to this part of the Message, conditioned by whether we accept or not what the Message itself asks of us: 'If my requests are heeded, Russia will be converted, and there will be peace; if not, she will spread her errors throughout the world, etc.'.

Since we did not heed this appeal of the Message, we see that it has been fulfilled, Russia has invaded the world with her errors. And if we have not yet seen the complete fulfilment of the final part of this prophecy, we are going towards it little by little with great strides. If we do not reject the path of sin, hatred, revenge, injustice, violations of the rights of the human person, immorality and violence, etc.

And let us not say that it is God who is punishing us in this way; on the contrary it is people themselves who are preparing their own punishment. In his kindness God warns us and calls us to the right path, while respecting the freedom he has given us; hence people are responsible”.(5) [link to www.vatican.va]


- c/w Mary's Last Message

"You say sons to me Mine, all those that are remove to you and they have abandoned to Me for pride and superbia, as sons of God will be able to call themselves? How they will be able to obtain Its misericordia? In truth I say to you, in these two city around this hill, laici, clergymen, bishops, have not believed the presence of God, they have not believed that in these last times, God is operating Its salvifico plan for the humanity," [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]




Maybe it's the Church that needs to be converted to Mary's Immaculate Heart.

Immaculate means without blemish, and in innocence and chastity. Self-controlled and not ruling others, but ruling themselves and letting God work through others as He/we will.

God is immanent, is He not? Which means that He/we exist in all things, including Russia.
cassandra
User ID: 88420
7/22/2008 11:15 PM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

well ... at last ... i can conclude that this idea of sorcha is foolish and a waste of time.

Look ... the plan is to jointly (USA/ISRAEL) conduct an illegal war against Iran.

Perhaps all of the above is just bullshit to manipulate the minds of many ... who knows ... and now ... who gives a shit.

All i know ... is that the OP is spreading disinfo ... the War is on folks ... it won't be long now.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 446728
7/22/2008 11:26 PM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

How's Elaine, Cassandra? hi
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 288444
7/23/2008 4:38 AM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

"Russian Military Analysts further point out in these reports that the actions of the US against Israel are ‘strictly adhering’ to the West’s decades long plan, and past US betrayals of longtime allies, to remake the entire Middle East........."

That is interesting in light of Condi Rice's speeches of reshaping the Middle East.

"And, as their propaganda media outlets continue to force these peoples focus onto Nations that are at the periphery of the mighty war to come........."

The "mighty war to come...". The last battle before the Millenium of peace can come? We may not have to wait too much longer. I wonder what/who will touch it off.
.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 446728
7/23/2008 7:55 AM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

I wonder what/who will touch it off.
.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 288444


An assassination, AC 288444.

"A VERY IMPORTANT POSITION WILL BE ASSASSINATED AND THIS WILL PROVOKE THE WAR." Third Secret [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]



The war, if fought, will be on American soil.

"The next war, if fought, will be on American soil." 1955 [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]



America will lose.

"The boy said that World War III would begin the next day. 'It will begin in the United States,' he said, 'and the United States will lose." 5th Grader's vision [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 470694
7/23/2008 2:34 PM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

July 22, 2008

and as we can read as reported by the Haaretz News Service:

“Senior officials in the U.S. State Department, including Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, have repeatedly complained to Israel recently over relatively minor Palestinian issues that it would have ignored until a few months ago, Israeli officials say.

Complaints about settlement construction or army operations that kill Palestinian civilians have always been the norm.
 Quoting: reports Sorcha Faal 195267



As bizarre as it seems, this is a direct quote from the first 2 sentences of a Haaretz article.
[link to www.haaretz.com]

What kind of glue-sniffing reality are we living in when a mainstream author expresses indignation that people could actually get upset by something so "minor" and "normal" as the army killing its civilians.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 195267 (OP)
7/27/2008 7:58 AM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

well ... at last ... i can conclude that this idea of sorcha is foolish and a waste of time.

Look ... the plan is to jointly (USA/ISRAEL) conduct an illegal war against Iran.

Perhaps all of the above is just bullshit to manipulate the minds of many ... who knows ... and now ... who gives a shit.

All i know ... is that the OP is spreading disinfo ... the War is on folks ... it won't be long now.
 Quoting: cassandra 88420

"Israeli prime minister Ehud Olmert this week shot off a strong secret note to US President George W. Bush, DEBKAfile’s sources reveal, protesting the administration’s strategic steps toward rapprochement with Iran.

Israel was not forewarned, Olmert wrote bitterly, although these steps directly violated US-Israel understandings on Iran of the past year. Bush, he said, had broken the promises he gave in face-to-face meetings with the prime minister earlier this year. If nothing is done to arrest Iran’s progress towards a nuclear bomb, Olmert warned, Iran will have all the components ready for assembly by early 2009, that is, in 6-8 months.

This time line is tighter than the one the prime minister gave the Democratic Senator Barack Obama when he visited Jerusalem Wednesday, July 23.

DEBKAfile’s Washington sources add that Bush has not replied to the letter, although the prime minister wrote in a spirit of extreme alarm over the threat to Israel’s security and indeed survival building up in Tehran.

The US response apparently came in the way American military chiefs brushed off Israeli chief of staff Lt. Gen. Gabi Ashkenazi, when he presented intelligence updates on the state of Iran’s military nuclear program. He was received with great honor during his week’s working visit, but his hosts declined to address the working theories guiding the IDF with regard to that program.

Res. Maj-Gen Yizhak Ben-Israel, former head of IDF Weapons Authority, strongly refuted Saturday, July 26, the estimate published by Time Magazine quoting former Mossad chief Ephraim Halevi (up until 2002) as speaking out against an Israeli attack on Iran, because it “could have an impact on us [Israel] for the next 100 years.”

Ben-Israel, a world-class expert on Iran’s nuclear and missile programs, countered that Israel’s failure to attack Iran’s nuclear sites would “jeopardize its security.” Time is working against the Jewish state,” he said.

As he spoke, Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad announced his country’s nuclear program had managed to double the uranium-enriching centrifuges operating in Natanz to 6,000."

[link to www.debka.com]
thuro
User ID: 446620
7/27/2008 8:14 AM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

first the Jew,then the gentile.The nation of Israel will be restored.European Union.(whose banner just happens to be a woman riding a bull,their headquarters building resembles an uncompleted ziggurat)seven year peace plan.the great Gog Ma-Gog invasion.Hmmmmmm?
"is that a sears poncho or is that a real poncho?Hmm...no foolin"
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 437732
7/27/2008 8:22 AM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

July 22, 2008

and as we can read as reported by the Haaretz News Service:

“Senior officials in the U.S. State Department, including Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, have repeatedly complained to Israel recently over relatively minor Palestinian issues that it would have ignored until a few months ago, Israeli officials say.

Complaints about settlement construction or army operations that kill Palestinian civilians have always been the norm.



As bizarre as it seems, this is a direct quote from the first 2 sentences of a Haaretz article.
[link to www.haaretz.com]

What kind of glue-sniffing reality are we living in when a mainstream author expresses indignation that people could actually get upset by something so "minor" and "normal" as the army killing its civilians.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 470694


Silly, isn't it?

Why would anyone in their right mind be concerned about the culling of a few diseased livestock.

Animal husbandry, that's all it is.

Goyim aren't people. They're just vermin. Nothing for humans to be concerned about.
FreeFlow
User ID: 456207
7/27/2008 8:36 AM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

Hmmm I am sure Israel will pull another USS Liberty incident, this time using their secret weapons to keep the US in line.
Lots of blackmailing threats and bribing will accompany that ...
19.47™
User ID: 282917
7/27/2008 9:23 AM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

good because God is about to bless Israel and curse the usa lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 470249


I'd say that that sounds about right to me.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 44152
7/27/2008 9:44 AM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

‘suggesting’ that the US is ‘nearing an imminent split’ with their longtime Middle Eastern ally Israel.
 Quoting: reports Sorcha Faal 195267


Oh man if only this were true, peace on earth for ever and ever
ano
User ID: 474247
7/27/2008 9:56 AM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

proaganda .
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 474232
7/27/2008 10:00 AM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY, every one of them, was "founded on stolen land". There was someone else displaced because of the formation of ALL countries of the world. It's a human thing, and an animal thing. Study some history, please.

good point
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 195267

5aHaliburton is going to dig Israel up with a Bulldozer,put it in shipping containers and moving it all to Florida! The New Israel is going to displace the Cubans.........
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The Love Goat
User ID: 474241
7/27/2008 10:02 AM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

chuckle

Sorcha Faal!

You numbskulls would believe a fortune cookie if it told you what you want to hear!

Gui1d
"Start every day off with a smile and get it over with."
W. C. Fields
Grizzled Old Goat Subscriber
The Love Goat
User ID: 474241
7/27/2008 10:03 AM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

Hmmm I am sure Israel will pull another USS Liberty incident, this time using their secret weapons to keep the US in line.
Lots of blackmailing threats and bribing will accompany that ...
 Quoting: FreeFlow

rolleyes

OMFG

d0rk1
"Start every day off with a smile and get it over with."
W. C. Fields
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The Love Goat
User ID: 474241
7/27/2008 10:05 AM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

‘suggesting’ that the US is ‘nearing an imminent split’ with their longtime Middle Eastern ally Israel.



Oh man if only this were true, peace on earth for ever and ever
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44152


Yeah, because the Islamos aren't causing any problems at all!

hizzy
"Start every day off with a smile and get it over with."
W. C. Fields
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 113248
7/27/2008 10:07 AM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

Oh yeah!

Didn't Sorcha recently write that Russia and the U.S. were going to war?


LMAO

That Sorcha!
He's a wealth of information!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 361590
7/27/2008 11:19 AM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

Some of the Prophecy of the Word of Yahuweh, to be yet Fulfilled in Yahushua the Living Word of Yahuweh.

ZECHARYAH – ZECHARIAH

14:1 See, Yom YHVH, (The Day of Yahuweh, Day of Wrath), comes, and your spoil shall be divided in the midst of you. 2 For I will gather all nations against Yahrushalayim to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

3 Then shall YHVH go forth, and fight against those nations, as when He fought in the day of battle.

(How foolish these are to try to battle against Yahuweh.)

4 And His feet shall stand in that day upon the Mount of Olives, (The Living Torah, Yahushua!), which is before Yahrushalayim on the east, and the Mount of Olives shall split in the middle toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the har (mountain) shall move toward the north, and half of it toward the south. 5 And you shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach to Atzal: yes, you shall flee, like you fled from the earthquake in the days of Uziyahu melech of Yahudah: and YHVH Elohim shall come (Who is coming?), and ALL the kidushim with Him.

(Kidushim - Saints, the Children of Yisrael, those whom are Born Again of Spirit and Truth of the Living Torah Righteousness, the Living Salvation Yahushua!, knowing whom are the Children of Yisrael, this must be after the trumpet that is blown on the Resurrection day of Yisrael)

6 And in that day, there is no light; it will be dark: 7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to YHVH alone, not day, or night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light. 8 And it shall be in that day, that living mayim (water) shall go out from Yahrushalayim; half of them toward the eastern sea, and half of them toward the western sea: in summer and in winter it shall be. 9 And YHVH shall be Melech (King) over all the earth: in that day shall there be YHVH echad (One, Yahuweh, Yahushua, Yisrael), and His Name echad (one). 10 All the land shall be changed into a plain from Geva to Rimmon south of Yahrushalayim: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in its place, from Benyamin’s Gate to the place of the First Gate, to the Corner Gate, and from the tower of Chanan-El to the melech’s (King’s) winepresses. 11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Yahrushalayim shall be safely inhabited.

12 And this shall be the plague with which YHVH will plague all the nations that have fought against Yahrushalayim; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their sockets, and their tongues will decay in their mouths.


The stage is being set, for all of the nations who will come against Yahrushalayim in the near future. What will be their fate? What spoil will be theirs? See whose name is higher than all names, Yahuweh, Yahushua the creator of all things. Is your ‘god’ greater? The proof will be made evident when this prophecy is fulfilled!

Tehillim – Psalms

2:1 Why do the nations rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? 2 The melechim (kings) of the earth set themselves and the rulers take counsel together, against YHVH, and against His Moshiach, (The Living Torah, Yahushua, Yisrael Echad/One) saying, 3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. 4 He that sits in the shamayim (heavens) shall laugh: YHVH shall have them in derision. 5 Then shall He speak to them in His anger, and trouble them in His heavy displeasure. 6 Yet have I set My Melech upon My kadosh Har Tzion. (My Holy Mountain) 7 I will declare the decree: YHVH has said to Me, You are My Son; this day have I brought You forth. 8 Ask of Me, and I shall give You the nations for Your inheritance, and the farthest parts of the earth for Your possession. 9 You shall break them with a rod of iron; You shall dash them in pieces like a potter’s vessel. 10 Be wise now therefore, O melechim: be instructed, shophtim (judges) of the earth. 11 Serve YHVH with fear, and gilah (rejoice) with trembling. 12 Kiss the Son, lest He be angry, and you perish from the halacha (your way of conduct), when His anger is lit even slightly. Blessed are all they that put their trust in Him.[/i]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 195267 (OP)
7/28/2008 8:40 AM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

Oh man if only this were true, peace on earth for ever and ever
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44152

Gates omits Israel from 'close' US allies

Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:42:02

US Defense Secretary Robert Gates has signed an official defense strategy document which fails to mention Israel in a list of close allies.

"Our closest allies - the UK, Australia, and Canada. Other long-standing alliances - NATO, Japan and South Korea foremost among them. We will work to expand and strengthen other relationships, including with India," says the yet unpublished US National Defense Strategy for 2008 which appears on InsideDefense.com.

The soon-to-be-published document is set to replace an earlier version released by Donald Rumsfeld in 2005, Haaretz reported on Monday.

Israel appears in numerous official US defense documents as an important US ally but is notably missing from this latest paper which conveys the Defense Secretary's directives to the US armed forces.

US Defense Secretary Robert Gates is seen as a pragmatist within the Bush administration. He replaced Donald Rumsfeld in 2006.

[link to www.presstv.ir]
FreeFlow
User ID: 456207
7/28/2008 8:41 AM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

US Defense Secretary Robert Gates has signed an official defense strategy document which fails to mention Israel in a list of close allies.

"Our closest allies - the UK, Australia, and Canada. Other long-standing alliances - NATO, Japan and South Korea foremost among them. We will work to expand and strengthen other relationships, including with India," says the yet unpublished US National Defense Strategy for 2008 which appears on InsideDefense.com.

..........
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 195267

Wow something seems to move finally!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 195267 (OP)
7/28/2008 8:45 AM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

israel will listen to suggestions but wil make decisions based on day to day reality ..u.S. will accept that situation ...
 Quoting: ano 471917

like going to war with Iran???

Gates: War with Iran would be 'disastrous'

By Amir Oren


A war with Iran would be "disastrous on a number of levels," according to U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates.

In an article appearing in the latest issue of Parameters, the U.S. Army War College quarterly, Gates wrote that with the army already bogged down in Iraq and Afghanistan, "another war in the Middle East is the last thing we need" - despite the fact that Iran "supports terrorism," is "a destabilizing force throughout the Middle East and Southwest Asia and, in my judgment, is hell-bent on acquiring nuclear weapons."

[link to www.haaretz.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 225190
7/28/2008 9:07 AM
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"Russia has finally recovered. It has risen from its knees and is ready for the next stage – forcing the rest of the world to their knees."

HELLLOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 195267 (OP)
7/28/2008 10:08 AM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

"Russia has finally recovered. It has risen from its knees and is ready for the next stage – forcing the rest of the world to their knees."

HELLLOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 225190

how right you are

Russia's energy drive leaves US reeling

Last week, the gloves finally came off the Dmitry Medvedev presidency in Russia. It had to happen sooner or later, but few would have expected this soon. It was crystal clear US President George W Bush administered a diplomatic snub to Medvedev on the sidelines of the Group of Eight (G-8) summit meeting at Hokkaido, Japan.

[link to www.atimes.com]

Russia’s new Great Game

Employing strategies redolent of a new Great Game, Russia has stepped up its diplomatic and trade activities in the Middle East and North Africa in a bid to enhance its geopolitical clout and gain access to, and at least partial control over, the region’s oil and gas reserves.

[link to www.thenational.ae]
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