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Opinions on teaching "killer doggies" how to behave?

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 432406
7/24/2008 9:33 PM
Re: Opinions on teaching "killer doggies" how to behave?Quote

Be the absolute Alpha, and socialize the hell outta them, and you will have a happy dog that can take care of business if needed....



:prncfila:

hate to say it omega but that is the cutest freakin picture...



Thank you. But like my ex's she can go zero to bitch in .1 of a second. :>)
 Quoting: Omega

she looks alot like one of my pits in the face, i get them silly pics with her flappin her ears and stuff...
soo adorable but also a killer...lol
i love flying puppy pics with the ears up in the air like dumbo when you snap a pic midstride...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 472903
7/24/2008 9:59 PM
Re: Opinions on teaching "killer doggies" how to behave?Quote

Never let your dog put it's teeth on ya-at all....

Usually aggressive dogs will try you when they are young. Wait for the opportunity, when they go for it flip them on their back and choke them till you see the whites of their eyes and they go limp.

That'll learn em'. Guaranteed...

Sounds cruel, but it's not, and my experience is you wont have that problem again....
 Quoting: Omega



Omega is an idiot when it comes to dog training. I respect the hell out of his financial opinions but alpha roles are dumb.

I'd like to see you try it with my boy, you'd picking up pieces of your face before you flipped the dog.

I posted this before...

[link to www.workingcaninestore.com]
[link to www.workingcaninestore.com]

Filas are too nervy that's why you never see them in real working situations. Nothing beats a good rottie, problem is, good ones are hard to find or very expensive.

As far as I can tell, I'm the only guy on this thread who know how to train a dog for real... I ain't talking about sit and shake and I sure as hell don't do stupid shit like alpha rolls.

Do you know why you don't do alpha roles? Because in a real situation where you need your dog to fight for you, you've already taught him to be submissive to a man.

Omega, we've been through this before. Now that I know you alpha roll your dogs, there ain't no way she'll stand up to real pressure from a man. Ha Ha... you fucked your dog up big time. Time to get a new one and when you do, ask me first and I'll give you some pointers.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 432406
7/24/2008 10:07 PM
Re: Opinions on teaching "killer doggies" how to behave?Quote

Never let your dog put it's teeth on ya-at all....

Usually aggressive dogs will try you when they are young. Wait for the opportunity, when they go for it flip them on their back and choke them till you see the whites of their eyes and they go limp.

That'll learn em'. Guaranteed...

Sounds cruel, but it's not, and my experience is you wont have that problem again....



Omega is an idiot when it comes to dog training. I respect the hell out of his financial opinions but alpha roles are dumb.

I'd like to see you try it with my boy, you'd picking up pieces of your face before you flipped the dog.

I posted this before...

[link to www.workingcaninestore.com]
[link to www.workingcaninestore.com]

Filas are too nervy that's why you never see them in real working situations. Nothing beats a good rottie, problem is, good ones are hard to find or very expensive.

As far as I can tell, I'm the only guy on this thread who know how to train a dog for real... I ain't talking about sit and shake and I sure as hell don't do stupid shit like alpha rolls.

Do you know why you don't do alpha roles? Because in a real situation where you need your dog to fight for you, you've already taught him to be submissive to a man.

Omega, we've been through this before. Now that I know you alpha roll your dogs, there ain't no way she'll stand up to real pressure from a man. Ha Ha... you fucked your dog up big time. Time to get a new one and when you do, ask me first and I'll give you some pointers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 472903

your dogs are beautiful, but i think if you cant roll your dog you probably shouldnt be attack training with it. you should practice rolling the dog whenever it gets out of hand and needs to be put in a submissive state,from puppyhood, you should already be dominant enough with the dog that you can still do this to him,you should be able to turn off your attack dog before you teach it to attack...
i mean if you cant turn him off then that is just irresponsible, its a 3 year old with a loaded gun
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 432406
7/24/2008 10:13 PM
Re: Opinions on teaching "killer doggies" how to behave?Quote

ps: i can roll my dogs but you can not.

i dont know what you are trying to say, why would omegas mankiller dog just let a stranger come flip him?
id put a few buck down that you couldnt do it.

my dog would rip your face off(literally, this is no braggy bullshit my dick is bigger than yours stuff either) if you tried to enter my property, and i can easily put her on her back and rub her tummy
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 472903
7/24/2008 10:25 PM
Re: Opinions on teaching "killer doggies" how to behave?Quote

ps: i can roll my dogs but you can not.

i dont know what you are trying to say, why would omegas mankiller dog just let a stranger come flip him?
id put a few buck down that you couldnt do it.

my dog would rip your face off(literally, this is no braggy bullshit my dick is bigger than yours stuff either) if you tried to enter my property, and i can easily put her on her back and rub her tummy
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 432406


I'd bet you $1000 that I could run your dog off with it's tail between it's legs if it isn't trained to bite a man. I train dogs for a living. Do you have a clue how many spew the same shit you are spewing now? Pleeeeze.... you don't know squat about how a dog reacts under real pressure from a man.

I didn't say I couldn't roll my dog on it's back. I give him belly rubs all the time. I'm saying it's stupid to do it IF you want to be able to count on your dog to fight for you.

First you need a balanced dog. Look at my boy... from a smile to eating your flesh in a matter of a second.

[link to www.workingcaninestore.com]

My dog will give me his belly and be submissive to me because there is no question who the leader is in my house. Rolling is dumb because he's being taught from a very early age that he can be over powered by a man. And the putting teeth on me thing... we don't have issues but I don't discourage it either. He's expected to bite flesh and not hesitate one bit.

Now, if you want a malleable house pet and don't ever want to count on him to protect you then by all means roll the shit out of your dog.

You people watch too much Caesar Millan.

So don't respond with you think this or feel that... when it comes to dogs, I KNOW. I can read any dog like a book. I've been doing this for over 35 years. I've trained dogs for Police Depts, Drug Dealers and for competition.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 432406
7/24/2008 10:53 PM
Re: Opinions on teaching "killer doggies" how to behave?Quote

ps: i can roll my dogs but you can not.

i dont know what you are trying to say, why would omegas mankiller dog just let a stranger come flip him?
id put a few buck down that you couldnt do it.

my dog would rip your face off(literally, this is no braggy bullshit my dick is bigger than yours stuff either) if you tried to enter my property, and i can easily put her on her back and rub her tummy


I'd bet you $1000 that I could run your dog off with it's tail between it's legs if it isn't trained to bite a man. I train dogs for a living. Do you have a clue how many spew the same shit you are spewing now? Pleeeeze.... you don't know squat about how a dog reacts under real pressure from a man.

I didn't say I couldn't roll my dog on it's back. I give him belly rubs all the time. I'm saying it's stupid to do it IF you want to be able to count on your dog to fight for you.

First you need a balanced dog. Look at my boy... from a smile to eating your flesh in a matter of a second.

[link to www.workingcaninestore.com]

My dog will give me his belly and be submissive to me because there is no question who the leader is in my house. Rolling is dumb because he's being taught from a very early age that he can be over powered by a man. And the putting teeth on me thing... we don't have issues but I don't discourage it either. He's expected to bite flesh and not hesitate one bit.

Now, if you want a malleable house pet and don't ever want to count on him to protect you then by all means roll the shit out of your dog.

You people watch too much Caesar Millan.

So don't respond with you think this or feel that... when it comes to dogs, I KNOW. I can read any dog like a book. I've been doing this for over 35 years. I've trained dogs for Police Depts, Drug Dealers and for competition.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 472903


lmao... famous last words...
dude , lol you just said you roll your dog.so i guess i can just come in there and dominate your dog too especially since im twice your size(or whoever is in those pics)
i guess youre the only guy here with shutzhund/attack training...i mean what you have a degree in hotdogs? dog training ist rocket science...
i cant believe you let him bite you, my dogs would get a kick in the teeth for biting me.
lol...i hope your puppy dont think that you are the toy one day... good luck, youre gonna need it hf
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 432406
7/24/2008 11:00 PM
Re: Opinions on teaching "killer doggies" how to behave?Quote

i should take your thousand bucks and let you get mauled
chuckle
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 473114
7/24/2008 11:43 PM
Re: Opinions on teaching "killer doggies" how to behave?Quote

i should take your thousand bucks and let you get mauled
chuckle
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 432406


Fine. Where and when? When I take your $1000, I'm taking the dog too.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 473114
7/24/2008 11:45 PM
Re: Opinions on teaching "killer doggies" how to behave?Quote

lmao... famous last words...
dude , lol you just said you roll your dog.so i guess i can just come in there and dominate your dog too especially since im twice your size(or whoever is in those pics)
i guess youre the only guy here with shutzhund/attack training...i mean what you have a degree in hotdogs? dog training ist rocket science...
i cant believe you let him bite you, my dogs would get a kick in the teeth for biting me.
lol...i hope your puppy dont think that you are the toy one day... good luck, youre gonna need it hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 432406



Are you seriously that fucking dumb?
czygyny
User ID: 418932
7/25/2008 1:47 AM
Re: Opinions on teaching "killer doggies" how to behave?Quote

As far as I can tell, I'm the only guy on this thread who know how to train a dog for real... I ain't talking about sit and shake and I sure as hell don't do stupid shit like alpha rolls.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 472903


To change the subject just this once, is that a 'fur-saver' collar your dog is wearing? Are they suitable for everyday wear and use? I don't like the thick nylon strap collar on my Rott, and the collar your dog has on looks like it would be more comfortable and look better.

Those pix of your dog at work are awesome. That kind of training is not my cup of tea, just want my Rott to behave and deter with just her presence, which she does. It's my cattle dog I have to keep an eye on--he's the protective one. Stangers don't get close to me when we are out hiking, that's for sure.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 473159
7/25/2008 2:22 AM
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Hi,

Yes, the fur savers are much easier on the neck. I always use them on the dead ring. Whenever we leave the house for a walk we always have the fur saver on the dog.

The standard choke chains are really bad for a dog. Try it on your thigh and you'll see that you will end up with more than a bruise but if you use a fur saver the pressure is much more disbursed. You can also try it on a cantelope. Watch the choke chain slice through the melon - the fursaver won't

In the house, my dogs don't wear collars. I have most of my leashes and collars hanging off the crate in my truck. I have an old leather MilSpec Agitation collar made by Ray Allen (great stuff!) a prong collar and a fur saver. In trials the only collar allowed is a fur saver.



The collars generally mean different things to the dog, he know when the leather gets strapped on he's gonna be biting but when the fur saver is on I expect supreme obedience.

Lately we've been working on OB with helpers on the field and wearing a fur saver is more real world.

You might want to check out the Synthetic or ASAT Collars that are available. I think they are great. My favorite leashes are synthetic and I don't have to worry about getting them wet.

I get most of my stuff at www.rayallen.com or www.elitek9.com or www.fullgripgear.com

If you go on ebay stay away from the CanAm stuff. Nobody I know likes his products. One guy had a sleeve from there and it was done after 5-6 sessions. The ray allen sleeves are still going after four years.


As far as I can tell, I'm the only guy on this thread who know how to train a dog for real... I ain't talking about sit and shake and I sure as hell don't do stupid shit like alpha rolls.



To change the subject just this once, is that a 'fur-saver' collar your dog is wearing? Are they suitable for everyday wear and use? I don't like the thick nylon strap collar on my Rott, and the collar your dog has on looks like it would be more comfortable and look better.

Those pix of your dog at work are awesome. That kind of training is not my cup of tea, just want my Rott to behave and deter with just her presence, which she does. It's my cattle dog I have to keep an eye on--he's the protective one. Stangers don't get close to me when we are out hiking, that's for sure.
 Quoting: czygyny 418932
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 432406
7/25/2008 8:42 AM
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i should take your thousand bucks and let you get mauled
chuckle


Fine. Where and when? When I take your $1000, I'm taking the dog too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 473114


lol, dude, you are brave, but stupid...

i applaude your balls over the internets really, id tell you how to find me but im pretty out there, usually when people get ballsy and try to come visit they end up getting lost and i never hear from them again.

im glad you are mr super duper doggie master, i am proud of you that you can conquer strange dogs that youve never met before without getting your face ripped off,obviously viscous dogs is your life passion or something, good for you

ps: this thread is for a pet not for a killer, the guy has a pet he has never once said he wants a killing machine, in fact he seems to want a balanced dog that can be around people, which yours cannot, since you cannot control him, and he thinks its fun to bite humans,(including yourself)

every human is not a master shutzhund trainer and every burglar cannot just inactivate the average rottweiler, a balanced pet rottweiler will do the trick for basic home protection..

im really sorry you got beat up so much as a kid but everyone doesnt want a psycho killer human mauler dog in the house so they cant have company...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 432406
7/25/2008 8:51 AM
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i should take your thousand bucks and let you get mauled
chuckle


Fine. Where and when? When I take your $1000, I'm taking the dog too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 473114

taking my dog, thats funny, my dogs regularly break out of cages and can operate door handles, you will never be safe, is it worth it? what kind of thing is that to say to me?
i mean how the hell could you have a balanced pet when you are so obviously unbalanced yourself?
how can you teach a dog something you dont know?
im sure your dogs are just as toxic aggressive as yourself.

your dog is as good as having your home protection shotgun out on the porch where everyone can get it..

careful you dont get shot the fuck up
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 432406
7/25/2008 9:00 AM
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pps: it is a bit different when a dog is biting through your flesh than when its on a sleeve or tug...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 432406
7/25/2008 9:08 AM
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First you need a balanced dog. Look at my boy... from a smile to eating your flesh in a matter of a second.

[link to www.workingcaninestore.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 472903


psycho, this is not balance it is crazy skitzo.. from nice to chewing on your mothers leg in one second... nice

balance would be from chewing on your moms leg to smiling in one second, but you dont understand that...

starting fires is easy, putting them out takes skill...
Leo****
User ID: 89830
7/25/2008 9:52 AM
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No, I'm not interested in teaching my dog to behave as a "killer dog", rather the contrary. My fault perhaps. I could have chosen a better thread title.

Lots of very good advice from you all! I'm absorbing like a magnet. Zod did a great write-up I believe on page 1, almost a "dog training 101":

Hehe, I just went through an event of my bull-mastiff attacking another small dog unexpectedly.

We've been treating her like a queen, while her smaller dog friend continued to grow older and weaker. Well, I forget to put her food bowl away after she ate, which needs to be done mind you(you MUST decide when they eat). Then her friend wanders over to grab a drink of water from the other dish.

Well my dog thinks that this other beast is going for her food and LATCHES on to her throat, mind you they've been good mates for years. I instinctively jumped on my dog and actually had to pry her jaw open because she was pushing so hard(and her teeth could have cause worse problems by tearing and lifting the skin, it's always better to open the mouth).

I am just glad that she didn't turn her hate towards me with my hands in her mouth, although im decently strong this dog is a beast when it's in full attack mode.

This animal needs to respect you at all times, sometimes you have to be cold. Don't let it beg and eat from your food. Show affection but not constantly, and only when it's appropriate(they do good things, behaving well). Keeping it off your bedcouch is a good tip from another poster.

Don't let it pull you out the door to go outside, it must wait for you to be ready. Make him/her do a sit command -EVERY TIME- you do something like that.(Going outside, getting fed, going for a walk). It will learn to respect you and how you do things if it has to wait.


Try to act like this = l33t


I just had to get back into "leader status" after this whole event. A bigger dog needs different training because they have the potential to become very dangerous. I was caught up in how sweet and loving this dog was, it's easy to forget about instincts and how they live, and how they can kill.

Luckily the other dog survived, though I'm not so sure it would have if I was a few seconds off on responding. Take care friend, show the dog you mean business at all times. naughty

When it is submissive to your desire, then you can be affectionate, pretty much sums it up. Don't give the dog love and attention every time you come in the door and it's waiting there wagging it's tail. I know it's cute, but it must learn you have a life also.


Sorry it's kinda long and all over the place but there's some good stuff in there. Trust me :]
 Quoting: Zod 457003


Great stuff! It got me thinking about what happened a few days ago at a friends place. We brought our little puppy and there was a dog in the household as well, a big young dog that had much looser training than we are giving ours: this one could sleep on the sofa, eat whenever so food was present, jump on people.

We brought food for our pup that she ate outside, then we took it away as usual after ten minutes even if she didn't finish the meal. The dogs played nice, and were together almost all the time. We thought we had our puppy under supervision, being outside in the garden. The dogs went inside together, I thought it was ok since the older dog's owner was inside.

Well... in just five minutes our pup:
- Ate all the food for the older dog, luckily this dog didn't mind and the older dog's owner thought it was just cute and didn't interfere
- Crapped secretly in a corner inside the house (she is housebroken more or less when she is at home)
- Jumped up in their sofa and was just about to take a nap as I entered the scene. At home she doesn't even try to sit in our sofa after she learned that the first day.

I learned a lesson there, and after revisiting your post Zod I realize how incredibly stupid it was to leave the puppy even for five minutes thinking others keep an eye on her. It could have ended in disaster.
Me
User ID: 394187
7/25/2008 10:05 AM
Re: Opinions on teaching "killer doggies" how to behave?Quote

Some good advice in this thread.

Just wanted to say OP you are going to have a great time with your Rottie.
They can be real Clowns and no matter how down I am feeling my Rottie always picks me up and makes me laugh, not to mention the loyalty and unconditional love you will get.

I've just been given the opportunity of having another Rottie pup, I'm in two minds at the moment because of space but if that wasn't the issue I would jump right in.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 458746
7/25/2008 10:38 AM
Re: Opinions on teaching "killer doggies" how to behave?Quote

I don't see a problem with using alpha rolls on a puppy. A big dog, yes, because as others have said it could put you in a position to get hurt. You are starting with a puppy, so it is another tool to use to establish your dominance. If you have a 100 pound dog that still thinks he's the pack leader, you've got bigger problems than an alpha roll can fix. Congrats on the new puppy!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 89830 (OP)
7/25/2008 11:43 AM
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Thanks 'Me', I'm sure she will be a great dog!

I can't tell you all how much I appreciate your views and advice here at GLP on how to raise my dog. I can't find this rich variety on typical dog forums, at least not the forums I've been looking at.

I have two questions that I'm trying to find answers to, so far what I find seems strange.

First: how long walks should you take with a Rottweiler puppy that is ten weeks old? I've seen recommendations of just ten minute walks *per day in summary*, the rest of the time some gentle playing, napping, short rounds for peeing & pooping.

Can this be right? We are taking her on 30-45 minutes walks now and she seems to like it a lot. We are not going very far, she is allowed to sniff and explore a lot so the pace is ultra slow. But she has to come along with us after short breaks, there is a direction and route that we decide. Opinions, please.

Second: what is the best way to make her walk calmly at our side on the times we are just transporting ourselves to the next green spot onthe route? I doubt it is too early to train that. She walks nicely most of the time but starts to drag after a while, choking herself to the point she hardly can breath. I can't imagine this is good for her so I just stop, making her sit and calm down before continuing... then after a few minutes she begin to drag again. What is a good strategy here? We use a normal leather collar that is just tight enough for the collar to stay on, short leash when doing this training. *No* yanking from our part - she just drags until she cannot breath freely and lose power... this definitely feel dead wrong.

Any ideas?
Leo****
User ID: 89830
7/25/2008 11:43 AM
Re: Opinions on teaching "killer doggies" how to behave?Quote

Sorry, timed out. Me above.
Sireen-reborn
User ID: 472239
7/25/2008 11:49 AM
Re: Opinions on teaching "killer doggies" how to behave?Quote

I've personally never encountered a vicious or intimidating Rotty.

Then again, I haven't with a Doberman, or pit bull either.

Congrads on the puppy. The bfriend and I got a new one as well, an Alaskan Malamute...and at 4 mos old she's already 40 lbs! And she doesn't bark, she TALKS to you...in doggie lingo of course!
anything after 'but' is bullshit!

[link to www.myspace.com]
Leo****
User ID: 89830
7/25/2008 11:52 AM
Re: Opinions on teaching "killer doggies" how to behave?Quote

I've personally never encountered a vicious or intimidating Rotty.

Then again, I haven't with a Doberman, or pit bull either.

Congrads on the puppy. The bfriend and I got a new one as well, an Alaskan Malamute...and at 4 mos old she's already 40 lbs! And she doesn't bark, she TALKS to you...in doggie lingo of course!
 Quoting: Sireen-reborn


Congrats to you too, Sireen! The breed you chose is magnificent indeed. Maybe it is like with the Rottweilers, that you must take great care for them not to grow too fast?

Good luck!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 473319
7/25/2008 12:00 PM
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very short walks like to the mail box and back. go the the park and meet little kids. 8-12wks is the MOST crucial time for a puppy.

30-45min is way way way too long. They will get enough exercise just being a puppy.

get a crate.

Thanks 'Me', I'm sure she will be a great dog!

I can't tell you all how much I appreciate your views and advice here at GLP on how to raise my dog. I can't find this rich variety on typical dog forums, at least not the forums I've been looking at.

I have two questions that I'm trying to find answers to, so far what I find seems strange.

First: how long walks should you take with a Rottweiler puppy that is ten weeks old? I've seen recommendations of just ten minute walks *per day in summary*, the rest of the time some gentle playing, napping, short rounds for peeing & pooping.

Can this be right? We are taking her on 30-45 minutes walks now and she seems to like it a lot. We are not going very far, she is allowed to sniff and explore a lot so the pace is ultra slow. But she has to come along with us after short breaks, there is a direction and route that we decide. Opinions, please.

Second: what is the best way to make her walk calmly at our side on the times we are just transporting ourselves to the next green spot onthe route? I doubt it is too early to train that. She walks nicely most of the time but starts to drag after a while, choking herself to the point she hardly can breath. I can't imagine this is good for her so I just stop, making her sit and calm down before continuing... then after a few minutes she begin to drag again. What is a good strategy here? We use a normal leather collar that is just tight enough for the collar to stay on, short leash when doing this training. *No* yanking from our part - she just drags until she cannot breath freely and lose power... this definitely feel dead wrong.

Any ideas?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 89830
Leo****
User ID: 89830
7/25/2008 12:08 PM
Re: Opinions on teaching "killer doggies" how to behave?Quote

very short walks like to the mail box and back. go the the park and meet little kids. 8-12wks is the MOST crucial time for a puppy.

30-45min is way way way too long. They will get enough exercise just being a puppy.

get a crate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 473319


I listen. Maybe that also has to do with the little drag problem which actually wouldn't exist if we didn't try to take the longer walks with her...

We have a lot to learn here obviously.

I ordered a crate that will arrive soon.

Thanks for the advice!

/L
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 473326
7/25/2008 12:14 PM
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I wouldn't be taking it on walks period. What about puppy shots?

Rotties are very susceptible to Parvo. Playing around the house is enough exercise.

too much walking and you could hurt joint development.

how much, how often do you feed?

Do you just leave a bowl of food out?
19.47™
User ID: 282917
7/25/2008 12:17 PM
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Leo***,

"We owe it to her and ourselves."

I'd say that the duty of care that you owe to your neighbours children comes FIRST.
Me
User ID: 394187
7/25/2008 12:20 PM
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I wouldn't be taking it on walks period. What about puppy shots?

Rotties are very susceptible to Parvo. Playing around the house is enough exercise.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 473326


That is very true, I wouldn't take the Pup on any walks at all until she has had all her Parvo injections and the Vet gives the go ahead.
I have lost a Rottie to Parvo, it's a horrid virus.
Leo****
User ID: 89830
7/25/2008 1:40 PM
Re: Opinions on teaching "killer doggies" how to behave?Quote

I wouldn't be taking it on walks period. What about puppy shots?

Rotties are very susceptible to Parvo. Playing around the house is enough exercise.

too much walking and you could hurt joint development.

how much, how often do you feed?

Do you just leave a bowl of food out?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 473326


Puppy shots: she has had one, getting another one next month. It is a justified warning, didn't think very much of that aspect but you are right. There are lots of ways to do wrong even with the best of intentions.

Feeding: very good question. We use dry dog food intended for puppies (Pedigree junior), 335g divided into four servings per day. Soaked in water a few minutes before she eats. Given according to the recommendation table on the package but we saw that she seldom eats the full serving. The breeder recommended this food. She also get vitamin/mineral supplements for puppies. Since she never finished the meals when "dog food only", we use a little less of the dog food and add some pasta, rice or potatoes instead. Her stool is perfect btw.

She get food at regular times, we leave it for her to eat in like 10-15 minutes then take it away regardless if she finished. She leaves very little now, if anything at all. From the breeder she was used to feeding together with her litter mates, I guess it is a factor here and that it simply takes some getting used to for her.

Thanks for walking me through this, I need opinions and feedback on what I do to give her the best possible.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 473365
7/25/2008 1:47 PM
Re: Opinions on teaching "killer doggies" how to behave?Quote

don't feed pedigree, it's crap... anything you get at petsmart etc is garbage.

get a good food like canidae or better yet evo red

feed 3x/day one cup per feeding. do not feed more than that
Leo****
User ID: 89830
7/25/2008 1:48 PM
Re: Opinions on teaching "killer doggies" how to behave?Quote

Leo***,

"We owe it to her and ourselves."

I'd say that the duty of care that you owe to your neighbours children comes FIRST.
 Quoting: 19.47™ 282917


That too. Dogs like these need to be perfectly stable to function in a normal human environment, being used to kids, pets etc. Good point.
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