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US detainee's lips sewn shut and wires shoved through his cheeks (w/photo)
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oh SHIT!!!!!
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Anonymous Coward
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7/23/2008 1:29 AM | | Re: US detainee's lips sewn shut and wires shoved through his cheeks (w/photo) | Quote |
poor guy... |
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Anonymous Coward
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7/23/2008 1:30 AM | | Re: US detainee's lips sewn shut and wires shoved through his cheeks (w/photo) | Quote |
That is disgusting. Back in 2003 before they hit Iraq, but after they hit Afghanistan. |
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Anonymous Coward
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7/23/2008 1:32 AM | | Re: US detainee's lips sewn shut and wires shoved through his cheeks (w/photo) | Quote |
That's just too much. What sick bastards have been spawned? |
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Free Store
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7/23/2008 1:45 AM | | Re: US detainee's lips sewn shut and wires shoved through his cheeks (w/photo) | Quote |
I'm sure tip of iceberg
All things I've learned
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Anonymous Coward
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7/23/2008 1:50 AM | | Re: US detainee's lips sewn shut and wires shoved through his cheeks (w/photo) | Quote |
I'm sure tip of iceberg
All things I've learned
Waterboarding and tasering make me sick at the thought of it all, but this is just over the top. Fuck!! |
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Anonymous Coward
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7/23/2008 2:08 AM | | Re: US detainee's lips sewn shut and wires shoved through his cheeks (w/photo) | Quote |
No confirmation on the origin of this photo.
This guy may be just one of those extreme pain freaks that are into putting on shows where they pierce their bodies with all kinds of strange needles and hooks and wires. He does not look like he is in pain to me. Think about it. Why would the controllers need to hook him up that way ... for what. There are much better ways to get someone to STFU. |
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blackcat66
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7/23/2008 2:21 AM | | Re: US detainee's lips sewn shut and wires shoved through his cheeks (w/photo) | Quote |
No confirmation on the origin of this photo.
Think about it. Why would the controllers need to hook him up that way ... for what. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 320341
errrr...hmmm...torture?. |
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Anonymous Coward
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7/23/2008 2:22 AM | | Re: US detainee's lips sewn shut and wires shoved through his cheeks (w/photo) | Quote |
Israel, Pakistan, Saudis, Serbia, Kosovo ect ect ect |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 472163
7/23/2008 2:26 AM | | Re: US detainee's lips sewn shut and wires shoved through his cheeks (w/photo) | Quote |
Islam countries have the "punishment fit the crime" rule, cut hand off for stealing ect.
The pic looks like punishment for something said, crudly done.
American/Rome torture should looks different. |
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ano
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7/23/2008 2:36 AM | | Re: US detainee's lips sewn shut and wires shoved through his cheeks (w/photo) | Quote |
arabs onlly cut off body parts whil u are still alive..why dont that make u sick. |
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Anonymous Coward
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7/23/2008 2:54 AM | | Re: US detainee's lips sewn shut and wires shoved through his cheeks (w/photo) | Quote |
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Anonymous Coward
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7/23/2008 3:01 AM | | Re: US detainee's lips sewn shut and wires shoved through his cheeks (w/photo) | Quote |
total BS look how well is beard is trimmed. Not a dude in Afghanistan.
Probably some hippie in Seattle |
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Smerk 
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7/23/2008 4:36 AM
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I heard via an SAS soldier that you guys have been interrogating detainees by jacking them up on huge doses of heroin, getting them addicted and then using the withdrawal symptoms to make them talk to get their next "hit". If this claim is true (and I have no reason to doubt it's authenticity), then you people should be ashamed of yourselves.
And so it begins... |
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Anonymous Coward
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7/23/2008 6:10 AM | | Re: US detainee's lips sewn shut and wires shoved through his cheeks (w/photo) | Quote |
horrible and disgusting, yeah we DO life in nazi america controlled by the nazis and hitler (bush and cheney).
can't something be done about this nazi regime?! i mean...seriously...we need to get rid of those nazis.
i really hate this planet more and more every day. this planet is full of evil, aggressiveness, selfishness, ruthlessness and wars.
i wanna get off this shithole called "planet earth". it's just a evil and disgusting planet and nothing more...to hell with it! |
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FreedomLover
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7/23/2008 6:13 AM | | Re: US detainee's lips sewn shut and wires shoved through his cheeks (w/photo) | Quote |
Is this real? |
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Anonymous Coward
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7/23/2008 6:21 AM | | Re: US detainee's lips sewn shut and wires shoved through his cheeks (w/photo) | Quote |
 
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Anonymous Coward
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7/23/2008 6:33 AM | | Re: US detainee's lips sewn shut and wires shoved through his cheeks (w/photo) | Quote |
Some of you idiots will believe anything. Probably a broken jaw wired shut or some pain freak.
Don't worry, your new leader will be here soon and he loves gullible fools so much that he has a mark for your foreheads. |
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Anonymous Coward
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7/23/2008 6:46 AM | | Re: US detainee's lips sewn shut and wires shoved through his cheeks (w/photo) | Quote |
Some of you idiots will believe anything. Probably a broken jaw wired shut or some pain freak.
Don't worry, your new leader will be here soon and he loves gullible fools so much that he has a mark for your foreheads. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 270862
ohhhh yeaahhhhh suuuuuuuuure the gubmint and military doesn't do any evil and would never do such horrible things...*sarcasm*
you're one of the most stupid people i've seen posting here in a loooooooooong while... |
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Anonymous Coward
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7/23/2008 6:49 AM | | Re: US detainee's lips sewn shut and wires shoved through his cheeks (w/photo) | Quote |
You haven't lived very long, have you? People have done worse over the centuries. It's a sick world. |
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Anonymous Coward
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7/23/2008 6:50 AM | | Re: US detainee's lips sewn shut and wires shoved through his cheeks (w/photo) | Quote |
sewing someones lips together and wiring their jaw shut is the best way to get someone to talk.
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mahershalalhashbaz
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7/23/2008 12:17 PM
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looks like an object lesson some sadistical freaks dreamt up to intimidate.
Rev 16:2 ¶ And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and [upon] them which worshipped his image. |
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Anonymous Coward
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7/23/2008 12:20 PM | | Re: US detainee's lips sewn shut and wires shoved through his cheeks (w/photo) | Quote |
photoshopped |
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kits
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7/23/2008 12:31 PM | | Re: US detainee's lips sewn shut and wires shoved through his cheeks (w/photo) | Quote |
Wikileaks staff have verified that the photograph came from a US military computer network. Quoting: [link to wikileaks.org]
I can't say whether or not this is a hoax, but that sentence was more than enough reason to convince me to forward that article to CNN. We'll see what they do with it. If anything.
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SmartAss
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7/23/2008 12:32 PM
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So it's a prisoner in Afganistan who they gave street clothing to wear while imprisoned, and part of his torture is to wear winter clothing in the heat?
Doesn't pass the smell test for me.
Life is like a jar of Jalapeno peppers.
What you do today just might burn your ass tomorrow. |
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Brwnstown
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7/23/2008 12:46 PM | | Re: US detainee's lips sewn shut and wires shoved through his cheeks (w/photo) | Quote |
If it is real and i doubt it is at least he is alive and his head is still on his shoulders where it belongs.
Or do all of u forget what happens to americans when captured by islamic nut jobs? And they dont even have the sac to go after military targets they kid nap and behind journalists and news reporters bunch of tough guys they are.
I would think and torture that is painful and horrible with out killing them should be done. Reverse the rolls and see what would happen if you were there prisoner! |
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kits
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7/23/2008 12:57 PM | | Re: US detainee's lips sewn shut and wires shoved through his cheeks (w/photo) | Quote |
Why would the controllers need to hook him up that way ... for what. There are much better ways to get someone to STFU. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 320341
There's several possible explanations. General sadism, frustration or anger perhaps. If he was unwilling to cooperate, then humiliate, frighten and hurt him. Maybe he wouldn't talk, so they were like "then you won't talk to anyone." Maybe he was talking/complaining too much and annoying them. Maybe they were just bored. Who knows. But there's plenty of people in the world who would do this, for various reasons. It's not a particularly unrealistic situation. After all, remember the US shoving broomsticks up POWs asses, making them practically mass hump one another nude, throwing puppies off cliffs, and all that?
total BS look how well is beard is trimmed. Not a dude in Afghanistan. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 470647
Yeah I don't see where they got Afghanistan from. They said themselves they just received a picture, but no information as to the subjects location. How clean he is, and his beard - that too seems peculiar. But not impossible. He might have just arrived there, he might have been involved in some "make this place look humane, hygienic and pleasant" event for someone, lots of possibilities.
Probably a broken jaw wired shut... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 270862
That's clearly not a broken jaw wired shut.
photoshopped Quoting: Anonymous Coward 472298
Maybe, it's certainly a distinct possibility. Especially considering that white "substance" on his upper left cheek.
So it's a prisoner in Afghanistan who they gave street clothing to wear while imprisoned, and part of his torture is to wear winter clothing in the heat? Quoting: SmartAss
This photograph and story does seem really very suspicious. I'd like to know more about that "substance," where they got Afghanistan from, the information regarding this alleged "US military computer network" origin, and what exactly the alleged email stated. I figure it's most likely a fraud, but if not, that the subject is being held far from the ME due to what the climate in that photograph would appear to be due to the clothing worn.
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malu
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7/23/2008 1:03 PM
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so everyone thinks we are really fighting al queda ? that they actually exist?
just checkin
if he is a detainee, he is a CIA merc, like the rest of them |
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Anonymous Coward
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7/23/2008 1:05 PM | | Re: US detainee's lips sewn shut and wires shoved through his cheeks (w/photo) | Quote |
Quoting: oh SHIT!!!!! 454645
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locomotion nli
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7/23/2008 1:37 PM | | Re: US detainee's lips sewn shut and wires shoved through his cheeks (w/photo) | Quote |
Oh children, this and other sickening (to normal psyches) depravities were surely conducted. If not by US, by others 'in our name'. May Creator forgive us all...I'm having a really hard time forgiving myself...
www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/06/25/070625fa_fact_hersh
Annals of National Security
The General’s Report
How Antonio Taguba, who investigated the Abu Ghraib scandal, became one of its casualties.
by Seymour M. Hersh
June 25, 2007
On the afternoon of May 6, 2004, Army Major General Antonio M. Taguba was summoned to meet, for the first time, with Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld in his Pentagon conference room. Rumsfeld and his senior staff were to testify the next day, in televised hearings before the Senate and the House Armed Services Committees, about abuses at Abu Ghraib prison, in Iraq. The previous week, revelations about Abu Ghraib, including photographs showing prisoners stripped, abused, and sexually humiliated, had appeared on CBS and in The New Yorker. In response, Administration officials had insisted that only a few low-ranking soldiers were involved and that America did not torture prisoners. They emphasized that the Army itself had uncovered the scandal.
If there was a redeeming aspect to the affair, it was in the thoroughness and the passion of the Army’s initial investigation. The inquiry had begun in January, and was led by General Taguba, who was stationed in Kuwait at the time. Taguba filed his report in March. In it he found:
Numerous incidents of sadistic, blatant, and wanton criminal abuses were inflicted on several detainees . . . systemic and illegal abuse.
Taguba was met at the door of the conference room by an old friend, Lieutenant General Bantz J. Craddock, who was Rumsfeld’s senior military assistant. Craddock’s daughter had been a babysitter for Taguba’s two children when the officers served together years earlier at Fort Stewart, Georgia. But that afternoon, Taguba recalled, “Craddock just said, very coldly, ‘Wait here.’ ” In a series of interviews early this year, the first he has given, Taguba told me that he understood when he began the inquiry that it could damage his career; early on, a senior general in Iraq had pointed out to him that the abused detainees were “only Iraqis.” Even so, he was not prepared for the greeting he received when he was finally ushered in.
“Here . . . comes . . . that famous General Taguba—of the Taguba report!” Rumsfeld declared, in a mocking voice. The meeting was attended by Paul Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld’s deputy; Stephen Cambone, the Under-Secretary of Defense for Intelligence; General Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (J.C.S.); and General Peter Schoomaker, the Army chief of staff, along with Craddock and other officials. Taguba, describing the moment nearly three years later, said, sadly, “I thought they wanted to know. I assumed they wanted to know. I was ignorant of the setting.”
In the meeting, the officials professed ignorance about Abu Ghraib. “Could you tell us what happened?” Wolfowitz asked. Someone else asked, “Is it abuse or torture?” At that point, Taguba recalled, “I described a naked detainee lying on the wet floor, handcuffed, with an interrogator shoving things up his rectum, and said, ‘That’s not abuse. That’s torture.’ There was quiet.”
Rumsfeld was particularly concerned about how the classified report had become public. “General,” he asked, “who do you think leaked the report?” Taguba responded that perhaps a senior military leader who knew about the investigation had done so. “It was just my speculation,” he recalled. “Rumsfeld didn’t say anything.” (I did not meet Taguba until mid-2006 and obtained his report elsewhere.) Rumsfeld also complained about not being given the information he needed. “Here I am,” Taguba recalled Rumsfeld saying, “just a Secretary of Defense, and we have not seen a copy of your report. I have not seen the photographs, and I have to testify to Congress tomorrow and talk about this.” As Rumsfeld spoke, Taguba said, “He’s looking at me. It was a statement.”
At best, Taguba said, “Rumsfeld was in denial.” Taguba had submitted more than a dozen copies of his report through several channels at the Pentagon and to the Central Command headquarters, in Tampa, Florida, which ran the war in Iraq. By the time he walked into Rumsfeld’s conference room, he had spent weeks briefing senior military leaders on the report, but he received no indication that any of them, with the exception of General Schoomaker, had actually read it. (Schoomaker later sent Taguba a note praising his honesty and leadership.) When Taguba urged one lieutenant general to look at the photographs, he rebuffed him, saying, “I don’t want to get involved by looking, because what do you do with that information, once you know what they show?”
Taguba also knew that senior officials in Rumsfeld’s office and elsewhere in the Pentagon had been given a graphic account of the pictures from Abu Ghraib, and told of their potential strategic significance, within days of the first complaint. On January 13, 2004, a military policeman named Joseph Darby gave the Army’s Criminal Investigation Division (C.I.D.) a CD full of images of abuse. Two days later, General Craddock and Vice-Admiral Timothy Keating, the director of the Joint Staff of the J.C.S., were e-mailed a summary of the abuses depicted on the CD. It said that approximately ten soldiers were shown, involved in acts that included:
Having male detainees pose nude while female guards pointed at their genitals; having female detainees exposing themselves to the guards; having detainees perform indecent acts with each other; and guards physically assaulting detainees by beating and dragging them with choker chains.
Taguba said, “You didn’t need to ‘see’ anything—just take the secure e-mail traffic at face value.”
I learned from Taguba that the first wave of materials included descriptions of the sexual humiliation of a father with his son, who were both detainees. Several of these images, including one of an Iraqi woman detainee baring her breasts, have since surfaced; others have not. (Taguba’s report noted that photographs and videos were being held by the C.I.D. because of ongoing criminal investigations and their “extremely sensitive nature.”) Taguba said that he saw “a video of a male American soldier in uniform sodomizing a female detainee.” The video was not made public in any of the subsequent court proceedings, nor has there been any public government mention of it. Such images would have added an even more inflammatory element to the outcry over Abu Ghraib. “It’s bad enough that there were photographs of Arab men wearing women’s panties,” Taguba said.
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