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IS 'JESUS CHRIST' COMING BACK AS A MAN OR A CHILD?

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 432406
7/23/2008 9:50 AM
Re: IS 'JESUS CHRIST' COMING BACK AS A MAN OR A CHILD?Quote

fire
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 472264
7/23/2008 9:53 AM
Re: IS 'JESUS CHRIST' COMING BACK AS A MAN OR A CHILD?Quote

Either Revelation 12 is 'retrospective prophecy' or the Second coming of Christ is a sham.

Revelation 12 clearly states that a child will be born...yet Christians expect a 'second coming' of 'Jesus Christ' the man?!?!?

Which is it?
 Quoting: GDW 472154



Revelation 12 has nothing to do with Jesus.


Jesus will return from Heaven to command the 7 Spirits and 7 Angels through the Tribulation.


Jesus went to Heaven age 33. In my opinion, when Jesus returns in the flesh he will still be 33.
Lotus Feet Subscriber
The Paraclete, defender of human rights
User ID: 433953
7/23/2008 9:56 AM
Re: IS 'JESUS CHRIST' COMING BACK AS A MAN OR A CHILD?Quote

Flying Scroll

No ten in gematria =

10 - 10 = 2x5
--- Yod.
(In spelling, interchanges with: , , ; , ; , , ; , ; , , .)
(Yod --- or --- 20 or 14 --- Hand (open, palmer side & fingers).
( is the preferred spelling in Qabalah).

The Hand of God.

No 20 - 20 - 20 = 22x5
--- Kaph.
(In spelling, interchanges with: , , ; , ; , , , ; ; , , )
(Koph --- --- 100/820 --- Bent or Hollow Hand, Palm, Fist).
(When on the end of a word, sometimes takes a different shape and has the value 500)

[link to www.billheidrick.com]

The Ancient form of this letter is the open palm of a hand. The meanings of this letter are bend and curve from the shape of the palm as well as to tame or subdue as one who has been bent to another's will.

The Modern Hebrew name for this letter is kaph, a Hebrew word meaning “palm” and is the original name for the letter. This letter is pronounced as a “k”, as in the word “kaph”, when used as a stop or as a “kh” (pronounced hard like the German name Bach), as in the word “yalakh” (to walk) when used as
aspirant.

[link to www.ancient-hebrew.org]

[link to www.studylight.org]


"You will tread down the wicked, for they will be ashes under the soles of your feet on the day whichI am preparing ," says the LORD of hosts.Mal 4:3


"Writhe and labor to give birth, Daughter of Zion, Like a woman in childbirth; For now you will go out of the city, Dwell in the field." Mic 4:10


"Their legs were straight and their feet were like a calf's hoof, and they gleamed like burnished bronze." Eze 1:7


"You therefore, son of man, prophesy and clap your hands together; and let the sword be doubled the third time." Eze 21:14


"He who has clean hands and a pure heart, Who has not lifted up his soul to falsehood And has not sworn deceitfully." Ps 24:4


"She considers a field and buys it; From her earnings she plants a vineyard." Pr 31:16

She bought her stairway to heaven through the sheer power of effort, healing and doing the will of God with no doubt in her heart.




May God bless you all


Lotus
People are not a commodity, without love they become so. Parents are the guardians of the soul, a precious gem born to shine. It is the guardian’s responsibility to ensure that gem is not reshaped, but allowed to BE its natural state. Children are the supreme joy of human life’ Sacred Words


God's will is compelled by love into compassionate action to save. Blessed are the pure of heart for they shall see God.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 472272
7/23/2008 9:58 AM
Re: IS 'JESUS CHRIST' COMING BACK AS A MAN OR A CHILD?Quote

Neither...he comes back as the glorified son of God with all his holy angels. He comes back to kick some earth butt. All the nations will make attempt to make war with him and he shall destroy them all. He will be the judge and executioner for all those who have not excepted his grace. Fear the Lord Jesus and repent.
JimmyK
User ID: 397865
7/23/2008 9:58 AM
Re: IS 'JESUS CHRIST' COMING BACK AS A MAN OR A CHILD?Quote

Greetings,

The child spoken of in Rev 12 is not Christ.

Rev 12 opens with "...a sign in Heaven..". This indicates a symbol of something.

The Woman is The church.

Revelation is highly symbolic in nature and purposely so. It is by far the most misinterpreted book in The Bible. A good understanding of the rest of the scriptures is required before one can hope to understand Revelation. For instance Acts 1 as well as Thessalonians has already given us an understanding of His return. Knowing that dismisses immediately the question.

Regards

JimmyK
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 472264
7/23/2008 10:04 AM
Re: IS 'JESUS CHRIST' COMING BACK AS A MAN OR A CHILD?Quote

The one that sits on his throne at the right hand of God is the prophet that Jesus promised to send in the end times of the end of the age.


-------


Are you referring to Elijah?


i believe that Elijah is with both the witnesses of Rev 11 3
Quorum
User ID: 469620
7/23/2008 10:04 AM
Re: IS 'JESUS CHRIST' COMING BACK AS A MAN OR A CHILD?Quote

Yeshua is a more correct name to represent Christ, Christ is also a state of conciousness which the entity who was is Yeshua had and it is like was said you can achieve such and do all he could and more, because you are all a part of God as is he.

You fail to see something that is God experiences life through you because you are the vesel in which God works through, the Soul is that vesel which incarnates into the container 'body' it experiences through life the lessons which are all felt and known by God.

Even through science God unites all things through the concept of Gravity within Gravity duality is shared in form of polarity to allow for the experience.

So universe is the ocean in which is Gods body and within that ocean light and darkness share that bodys water light at its shallows and darkness at it dephs, the waves are your conciousness interacting with the ocean they are unstable always in fluxation always leading to a shore, wether you are pulled in by the currents to rides the waves to the shores is determined by your decisions.

Quorum
Adonai Christ
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 471064
7/23/2008 10:14 AM
Re: IS 'JESUS CHRIST' COMING BACK AS A MAN OR A CHILD?Quote

She will come back as the "Daughter of GOD".
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 455142
7/23/2008 10:22 AM
Re: IS 'JESUS CHRIST' COMING BACK AS A MAN OR A CHILD?Quote

Either Revelation 12 is 'retrospective prophecy' or the Second coming of Christ is a sham.

Revelation 12 clearly states that a child will be born...yet Christians expect a 'second coming' of 'Jesus Christ' the man?!?!?

Which is it?
 Quoting: GDW 472154

GDW...

You are an ignorant fool
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 471036
7/23/2008 10:39 AM
Re: IS 'JESUS CHRIST' COMING BACK AS A MAN OR A CHILD?Quote

She will come back as the "Daughter of GOD".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 471064



They don't carry out sex change operations in Heaven and Jesus has not been to Sans Francisco.

Jesus will return as a male.
Lotus Feet Subscriber
The Paraclete, defender of human rights
User ID: 433953
7/23/2008 11:22 AM
Re: IS 'JESUS CHRIST' COMING BACK AS A MAN OR A CHILD?Quote

Greetings,

The child spoken of in Rev 12 is not Christ.

Rev 12 opens with "...a sign in Heaven..". This indicates a symbol of something.

The Woman is The church.

Revelation is highly symbolic in nature and purposely so. It is by far the most misinterpreted book in The Bible. A good understanding of the rest of the scriptures is required before one can hope to understand Revelation. For instance Acts 1 as well as Thessalonians has already given us an understanding of His return. Knowing that dismisses immediately the question.

Regards

JimmyK
 Quoting: JimmyK



There have been many signs in the heavens. Check out the Harmonic Concordance November 2003.

The word church means community. Jesus warned everyone not to build upon his foundations with building materials and he predicted those that did would come tumbling down in the flames. One of these did come tumbling down in flames the day the Paraclete flew into the USA. Check out the thread titled "Philadelphia Church Burns to the Ground" on this forum.

"My purpose is that they may be encouraged in heart and united in love, so that they may have the full riches of complete understanding, in order that they may know the mystery of God, namely, Christ, in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge." Colossians 2:1-3

Lotus
People are not a commodity, without love they become so. Parents are the guardians of the soul, a precious gem born to shine. It is the guardian’s responsibility to ensure that gem is not reshaped, but allowed to BE its natural state. Children are the supreme joy of human life’ Sacred Words


God's will is compelled by love into compassionate action to save. Blessed are the pure of heart for they shall see God.
Lotus Feet Subscriber
The Paraclete, defender of human rights
User ID: 433953
7/23/2008 11:25 AM
Re: IS 'JESUS CHRIST' COMING BACK AS A MAN OR A CHILD?Quote

The one that sits on his throne at the right hand of God is the prophet that Jesus promised to send in the end times of the end of the age.


-------


Are you referring to Elijah?


i believe that Elijah is with both the witnesses of Rev 11 3
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 472264


Prior to the mission to Israel God had given his prophet the name carved in gold on a stone crystal in the shape of a pillar.


During Roshanah Solar Eclipse in Safed, Israel in 2007

God said "The name of Elijah has now passed there is a much larger reality" this was to do with the name carved in stone.

Since September 2007 that reality has been unfolding.

God also said "You have the pillar where man can rest his head but man is not yet ready to lay down his head".


Lotus
People are not a commodity, without love they become so. Parents are the guardians of the soul, a precious gem born to shine. It is the guardian’s responsibility to ensure that gem is not reshaped, but allowed to BE its natural state. Children are the supreme joy of human life’ Sacred Words


God's will is compelled by love into compassionate action to save. Blessed are the pure of heart for they shall see God.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 470297
7/23/2008 11:44 AM
Re: IS 'JESUS CHRIST' COMING BACK AS A MAN OR A CHILD?Quote

She will come back as the "Daughter of GOD".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 471064

and they say a Dog is a mans best friend...
JimmyK
User ID: 361847
7/23/2008 11:49 AM
Re: IS 'JESUS CHRIST' COMING BACK AS A MAN OR A CHILD?Quote

The one that sits on his throne at the right hand of God is the prophet that Jesus promised to send in the end times of the end of the age.


-------


Are you referring to Elijah?


i believe that Elijah is with both the witnesses of Rev 11 3
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 472264



Greetings,


I know a lot of folks have different understandings concerning the "Two Witnesses" of Revelation. Some have made it far more difficult than it needs to be and some have come up with some rather wild thoughts on the subject.

Sometimes the easiest answer is right before ones eyes yet they seek something more fantastic or complicated.

Q: What is it that a witness does?

A: Well they testify.


Now please consider the Words of Christ.

John 5:39

"Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

My position is not real exciting to some but simply put the two witnesses are the Old and New Covenants.

Regards

JimmyK
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 471064
7/23/2008 11:54 AM
Re: IS 'JESUS CHRIST' COMING BACK AS A MAN OR A CHILD?Quote

She will come back as the "Daughter of GOD".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 471064

The Holy Begotten Daughter of GOD will come back in Power and Glory and all will worship her.
MedicineWind
User ID: 363233
7/23/2008 11:58 AM
Re: IS 'JESUS CHRIST' COMING BACK AS A MAN OR A CHILD?Quote

Either Revelation 12 is 'retrospective prophecy' or the Second coming of Christ is a sham.

Revelation 12 clearly states that a child will be born...yet Christians expect a 'second coming' of 'Jesus Christ' the man?!?!?

Which is it?
 Quoting: GDW 472154


Neither, O ye of little understanding. He will come back as the Creator God of many worlds.
rant
Ignatius J. Reilly
User ID: 359629
7/23/2008 11:59 AM
Re: IS 'JESUS CHRIST' COMING BACK AS A MAN OR A CHILD?Quote

Either Revelation 12 is 'retrospective prophecy' or the Second coming of Christ is a sham.

Revelation 12 clearly states that a child will be born...yet Christians expect a 'second coming' of 'Jesus Christ' the man?!?!?

Which is it?
 Quoting: GDW 472154

YES YOUR DAUGHTER IS JESUS, NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT IT ALREADY.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 461464
7/23/2008 12:02 PM
Re: IS 'JESUS CHRIST' COMING BACK AS A MAN OR A CHILD?Quote

None of us will be alive to see his coming. We will all be in spirit. The consuming fire will irradicate all flesh (which is sin) before his arrival...sorry OP your ignorance is BEAMING!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 455142
7/23/2008 12:02 PM
Re: IS 'JESUS CHRIST' COMING BACK AS A MAN OR A CHILD?Quote

She will come back as the "Daughter of GOD".

The Holy Begotten Daughter of GOD will come back in Power and Glory and all will worship her.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 471064

get a brain moran!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 340796
7/23/2008 12:18 PM
Re: IS 'JESUS CHRIST' COMING BACK AS A MAN OR A CHILD?Quote

Ill give it a wee bump
Lotus Feet Subscriber
The Paraclete, defender of human rights
User ID: 433953
7/23/2008 12:30 PM
Re: IS 'JESUS CHRIST' COMING BACK AS A MAN OR A CHILD?Quote

She will come back as the "Daughter of GOD".

and they say a Dog is a mans best friend...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 470297


Yes she was baptised at birth.

Benjamin Creme did get some things correct but not all because God did not give all of the information to any one person due to those that would follow and claim what was not theirs to claim.

The One has all the pieces of the jigsaw puzzle because it was the wish of God that they would be the only contender and the information that they hold can prove others to be pretenders.

Creme was correct about the Indian name given at physical birth, she was named after an Indian child and birthed to a working class (poor) family. London being her place of birth is also correct. However, she was born in the West End of London on the prime meridian of the world axis, within the sound of bow bells in East London. The word Maitraya means "lovingkindness' and she has been known by family, friends and clients for her loving kindness".

She is the prophet and teacher that preceeds the one to come as the Christ himself. The Revelations predict that Jesus has a New Name.

The Revelations clearly state that he has a new name and he has given it to the one prophet that he has sent from the father to help humanity during the end times of the end of the age.

She will prepare the way for him because he will not come until there is peace on earth. He will not come as a teacher he has much more important things to do when he comes.

Yes, many will wish to worship her once reality sets in but she will respond like Jesus did and say 'No, Don't do it".

She female vessel was chosen for her integrity and she cannot be corrupted.

Lotus
People are not a commodity, without love they become so. Parents are the guardians of the soul, a precious gem born to shine. It is the guardian’s responsibility to ensure that gem is not reshaped, but allowed to BE its natural state. Children are the supreme joy of human life’ Sacred Words


God's will is compelled by love into compassionate action to save. Blessed are the pure of heart for they shall see God.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 471407
7/23/2008 12:34 PM
Re: IS 'JESUS CHRIST' COMING BACK AS A MAN OR A CHILD?Quote

Harmonic Concordance November 2003
------------

MY spirit took part at the one at silbery hell the day of the Harmonic Concordance, November 8th, 2003. that was the beginning of a new energy!

I didont have a clue what it was about at the time lol it was the spirit doing the work
Ignatius J. Reilly
User ID: 359629
7/23/2008 12:37 PM
Re: IS 'JESUS CHRIST' COMING BACK AS A MAN OR A CHILD?Quote

"Muhammad My Friend"

Muhammad my friend, it's time to tell the world
We both know it was a girl back in Bethlehem
And on that fateful day when she was crucified
She wore Shiseido Red and we drank tea by her side

Sweet, sweet, sweet
Used to be so sweet to me, well

Muhammad my friend, I'm getting very scared
Teach me how to love my brothers who don't know the law
And what about the deal on the flying trapeze?
Got a peanut butter hand, but honey
do drop in at the Dew Drop Inn

Sweet, sweet, sweet
Between the boys and the bees

Sweet, sweet, sweet
Between the boys and the bees

And Moses I know, I know you've seen fire
But you've never seen fire until you've seen Pele blow
And I've never seen light, but I sure have seen gold
And Gladys save a place for me on your grapevine
till I get my own, honey, TV show

Ashre, ashre, ashre, ashre

And if I lose my Cracker Jacks at the tidal wave
I got a place in the Pope's, honey, rubber robe
Muhammad my friend, it's time to tell the world
We both know it was a girl back in Bethlehem
Lotus Feet Subscriber
The Paraclete, defender of human rights
User ID: 433953
7/23/2008 12:38 PM
Re: IS 'JESUS CHRIST' COMING BACK AS A MAN OR A CHILD?Quote

Harmonic Concordance November 2003
------------

MY spirit took part at the one at silbery hell the day of the Harmonic Concordance, November 8th, 2003. that was the beginning of a new energy!

I didont have a clue what it was about at the time lol it was the spirit doing the work
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 471407


Yes, it was amazing....many of us that were involved in that divine intervention were changed forever after that night. Myself included, my life has not been the same since.

Yes the Spirit of God was definitely doing the work.

It was an engagement with God, a penetration and arrival of a new soul that came into this domain. The Spirit conceived from the Spirit.

The New Soul was birthed the following year at the second Harmonic Concordance 1st October 2004.

Lotus
People are not a commodity, without love they become so. Parents are the guardians of the soul, a precious gem born to shine. It is the guardian’s responsibility to ensure that gem is not reshaped, but allowed to BE its natural state. Children are the supreme joy of human life’ Sacred Words


God's will is compelled by love into compassionate action to save. Blessed are the pure of heart for they shall see God.
Lotus Feet Subscriber
The Paraclete, defender of human rights
User ID: 433953
7/23/2008 12:52 PM
Re: IS 'JESUS CHRIST' COMING BACK AS A MAN OR A CHILD?Quote

"Muhammad My Friend"

Muhammad my friend, it's time to tell the world
We both know it was a girl back in Bethlehem
And on that fateful day when she was crucified
She wore Shiseido Red and we drank tea by her side

Sweet, sweet, sweet
Used to be so sweet to me, well

Muhammad my friend, I'm getting very scared
Teach me how to love my brothers who don't know the law
And what about the deal on the flying trapeze?
Got a peanut butter hand, but honey
do drop in at the Dew Drop Inn

Sweet, sweet, sweet
Between the boys and the bees

Sweet, sweet, sweet
Between the boys and the bees

And Moses I know, I know you've seen fire
But you've never seen fire until you've seen Pele blow
And I've never seen light, but I sure have seen gold
And Gladys save a place for me on your grapevine
till I get my own, honey, TV show

Ashre, ashre, ashre, ashre

And if I lose my Cracker Jacks at the tidal wave
I got a place in the Pope's, honey, rubber robe
Muhammad my friend, it's time to tell the world
We both know it was a girl back in Bethlehem
 Quoting: Ignatius J. Reilly 359629


ONE STEP AT A TIME.....all will be revealed and unveiled in God's timing.

There are two Bethlehem's one in the south of Israel and one in the North.

Lotus
People are not a commodity, without love they become so. Parents are the guardians of the soul, a precious gem born to shine. It is the guardian’s responsibility to ensure that gem is not reshaped, but allowed to BE its natural state. Children are the supreme joy of human life’ Sacred Words


God's will is compelled by love into compassionate action to save. Blessed are the pure of heart for they shall see God.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 471407
7/23/2008 12:59 PM
Re: IS 'JESUS CHRIST' COMING BACK AS A MAN OR A CHILD?Quote

Yes, it was amazing....many of us that were involved in that divine intervention were changed forever after that night. Myself included, my life has not been the same since.
--------------

my life has not been the same since then to lol


[link to bp1.blogger.com]

[link to www.rialian.com]


And they just keep coming lol the language of the spirit eh
Zed
User ID: 457003
7/23/2008 12:59 PM
Re: IS 'JESUS CHRIST' COMING BACK AS A MAN OR A CHILD?Quote

stoner



Jesus is a moonbeam, ya dig?
Lotus Feet Subscriber
The Paraclete, defender of human rights
User ID: 433953
7/23/2008 1:13 PM
Re: IS 'JESUS CHRIST' COMING BACK AS A MAN OR A CHILD?Quote

Yes, it was amazing....many of us that were involved in that divine intervention were changed forever after that night. Myself included, my life has not been the same since.
--------------

my life has not been the same since then to lol


[link to bp1.blogger.com]

[link to www.rialian.com]


And they just keep coming lol the language of the spirit eh
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 471407


Yes many souls of the prophets, saints and masters arrived that night, impregnated to take up residence in human vessels.

We live in exciting times, may the spiritual walk in total integrity to help humanity through the birth pains of the transition into the new world as the old heaven and earth pass away.

Lotus
People are not a commodity, without love they become so. Parents are the guardians of the soul, a precious gem born to shine. It is the guardian’s responsibility to ensure that gem is not reshaped, but allowed to BE its natural state. Children are the supreme joy of human life’ Sacred Words


God's will is compelled by love into compassionate action to save. Blessed are the pure of heart for they shall see God.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 365558
7/23/2008 1:14 PM
Re: IS 'JESUS CHRIST' COMING BACK AS A MAN OR A CHILD?Quote

Yes, it was amazing....many of us that were involved in that divine intervention were changed forever after that night. Myself included, my life has not been the same since.
--------------

my life has not been the same since then to lol


[link to bp1.blogger.com]

[link to www.rialian.com]


And they just keep coming lol the language of the spirit eh
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 471407


What time did U feel it ?
Lotus Feet Subscriber
The Paraclete, defender of human rights
User ID: 433953
7/23/2008 1:24 PM
Re: IS 'JESUS CHRIST' COMING BACK AS A MAN OR A CHILD?Quote

Yes, it was amazing....many of us that were involved in that divine intervention were changed forever after that night. Myself included, my life has not been the same since.
--------------

my life has not been the same since then to lol


[link to bp1.blogger.com]

[link to www.rialian.com]


And they just keep coming lol the language of the spirit eh


What time did U feel it ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 365558


During the solar eclipse itself. I was in Florence at the time and in all honesty I was not aware at the time what had happened to me. It wasn't until afterwards that I was told who I was and it took some time to correlate to the HC1. ALthough unbeknowing to me at the time we had predicted it in an earlier article about the HC.

A man spent every penny he had and travelled from Israel, he prayed for two days prior to my arrival to carry out Harmonic Epiphany the following day with a group of Italians. The author and healer from israel said 'he had been compelled to come to meet me in Florence and that he felt his life depended upon it"

I remember, I could not sleep and I stayed awake in full power until at least 5.00am the night of the solar eclipse. The heat and love felt surrounding the whole time, leading up and following it was enormous and I was swept away.

Then a very difficult time followed because my existing soul had to leave to make way for the new one. At one point I did not know who I was anymore because a new soul was growing within me while the existing one was being killed off. After the birth in 2004 reality become a lot easier.

Lotus
People are not a commodity, without love they become so. Parents are the guardians of the soul, a precious gem born to shine. It is the guardian’s responsibility to ensure that gem is not reshaped, but allowed to BE its natural state. Children are the supreme joy of human life’ Sacred Words


God's will is compelled by love into compassionate action to save. Blessed are the pure of heart for they shall see God.
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