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| Grizzled Old Goat 
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7/23/2008 9:28 AM
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What can it all mean? Interesting nugget from the Saudi Gazette..
[link to imra.org.il]
Monday, July 21, 2008
Excerpts: Iran changes tone on Israelis, Americans.
TEHRAN - Iran is "friends with the Israeli people," a deputy of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said, in stark contrast to Tehran's usual verbal assaults against the Jewish state, local media reported on 20 July. Esfandiar Rahim Mashaie, vice president in charge of tourism and one of Ahmadinejad's closest confidants, also described the people of Iran's arch-enemy the United States as "one of the best nations in the world." "Today, Iran is friends with the American and Israeli people. No nation in the world is our enemy, this is an honor," Rahim Mashaie said, according to the Fars news agency and Etemad newspaper. "We regard the American people as one of the best nations in the world. "Rahim Mashaie is one of the figures closest to the president in the Iranian government. This was emphasized earlier this year when his daughter married Ahmadinejad's son.
"It may be that your whole purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others."
Anon |
| Anonymous Coward
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7/23/2008 9:32 AM | | Re: IRAN: A signal the mullah regime may be ready to fold on the nuke issue | Quote |
It's probably  |
| Anonymous Coward
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7/23/2008 9:38 AM | | Re: IRAN: A signal the mullah regime may be ready to fold on the nuke issue | Quote |
So what will you be squealing about if they do?
If they stop doing the enrichment thing, you won't have any more excuses to go nuking them. What fun will that be.
AND THEN, all those other Middle Eastern countries will start asking the heebes when THEY'RE going to stop building nuclear bombs!
Won't that suck, eh Moishe? |
| Anonymous Coward
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7/23/2008 9:46 AM | | Re: IRAN: A signal the mullah regime may be ready to fold on the nuke issue | Quote |
Israel biggest problem is that iran DOSENT have nukes, but they wish they had so its an excuse for israel to force USA to attack. Hell is it ok for israHELL to have nukes then? lol duality at its best...
this thread dosent deliver... |
| Grizzled Old Goat
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7/23/2008 9:52 AM
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Israel biggest problem is that iran DOSENT have nukes, but they wish they had so its an excuse for israel to force USA to attack. Hell is it ok for israHELL to have nukes then? lol duality at its best...
this thread dosent deliver... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 472262
Deliver what?
"It may be that your whole purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others."
Anon |
| Grizzled Old Goat
The Love Goat
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7/23/2008 9:53 AM
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So what will you be squealing about if they do?
If they stop doing the enrichment thing, you won't have any more excuses to go nuking them. What fun will that be.
AND THEN, all those other Middle Eastern countries will start asking the heebes when THEY'RE going to stop building nuclear bombs!
Won't that suck, eh Moishe? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 462086
Thanks for proving (again) that nazis are assholes..
"It may be that your whole purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others."
Anon |
| ano
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7/23/2008 10:00 AM | | Re: IRAN: A signal the mullah regime may be ready to fold on the nuke issue | Quote |
they will never cease terror attacks.the middleast history books are full of Islamist raiding and killing people in other villages, while kidnaping women and children and then enslaving them....the terror part has gone on for nearlly thier intire history......why would anyone think they will change now.........wake up..the worlds oil sits in the Hornets Nest of the middleast and other third world countries...........................................you better get this through your head that it will always be a battle and or small or larger wars to secure oil from those regions....accept the hard facts.. ....((((((cheap alternative energy )))))))) ,is the worlds last best hope .to be free from that bunch..even that may not be enough,.they still must convert or kill infedels ..and must not ever comingle with ifidels ..how in hell do you change a non negociable religious mandate.. ..you can't |
| kits
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7/23/2008 10:04 AM | | Re: IRAN: A signal the mullah regime may be ready to fold on the nuke issue | Quote |
Iran's position has always been that they are friendly with the Israeli and American people. Through that of course, I'm referring to semantics, to an extent. Iran is differentiating between the American and Israeli citizens, and what it perceives to be its Zionist enemies. As in, Iran has continually made it clear that it views a small portion of the American and Israeli citizenry and government officials to be its enemy. For example, if Russia were to be attacked by the US military and retaliated against US assets and interests, that wouldn't necessarily be due to a hatred of the American citizenry. More so, it would be an attack on the American government, not necessarily the people.
Iran said it's "friends with the Israeli and American people," considers the country of America to be "one of the best in the world," and is not enemies with any "nation in the world." It means that directly. They're not saying that they like the individuals in those two countries which oppose them, threaten them, attack them, and cause them problems. Iran is saying the general population, and the countries themselves, are not their enemy. That's my interpretation.
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| JimmyK
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7/23/2008 10:07 AM | | Re: IRAN: A signal the mullah regime may be ready to fold on the nuke issue | Quote |
Hiya GOG,
A careful reading actually remains consistent with what we have heard all along and contains huge loopholes.
He is speaking of the "people" of Israel and the "people" of The United States.
There is an implication that leads me to see him saying, "We love the people but its Governments are the problem."
There is no indication they intend to fold on this issue. It is actually a very sly statement if you think about it.
Regards
JimmyK |
| JimmyK
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7/23/2008 10:07 AM | | Re: IRAN: A signal the mullah regime may be ready to fold on the nuke issue | Quote |
Sorry Kits missed yours. |
| kits
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7/23/2008 10:08 AM | | Re: IRAN: A signal the mullah regime may be ready to fold on the nuke issue | Quote |
And no, this isn't an indication that Iran is preparing to surrender to America's demands. They're just saying the same things they've always said. They're presenting their case and/or appealing to the citizenry of those two nations.
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| kits
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7/23/2008 10:09 AM | | Re: IRAN: A signal the mullah regime may be ready to fold on the nuke issue | Quote |
No problem Jimmy, just glad others recognize that, and that someone backed me on the issue.
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| Grizzled Old Goat
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7/23/2008 10:15 AM
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Iran's position has always been that they are friendly with the Israeli and American people. Through that of course, I'm referring to semantics, to an extent. Iran is differentiating between the American and Israeli citizens, and what it perceives to be its Zionist enemies. As in, Iran has continually made it clear that it views a small portion of the American and Israeli citizenry and government officials to be its enemy. For example, if Russia were to be attacked by the US military and retaliated against US assets and interests, that wouldn't necessarily be due to a hatred of the American citizenry. More so, it would be an attack on the American government, not necessarily the people.
Iran said it's "friends with the Israeli and American people," considers the country of America to be "one of the best in the world," and is not enemies with any "nation in the world." It means that directly. They're not saying that they like the individuals in those two countries which oppose them, threaten them, attack them, and cause them problems. Iran is saying the general population, and the countries themselves, are not their enemy. That's my interpretation. Quoting: kits
It's a far cry from:
Israel is "a disgraceful stain on the Islamic world"
“[Addressing a conference in Tehran entitled] The World Without Zionism ... To those who doubt, to those who ask is it possible, or those who do not believe, I say accomplishment of a world without America and Israel is both possible andfeasible.”
I think it is significant. The mullahs are defending against internal regime change..
"It may be that your whole purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others."
Anon |
| Grizzled Old Goat
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7/23/2008 10:17 AM
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No problem Jimmy, just glad others recognize that, and that someone backed me on the issue. Quoting: kits
Why don't you try to find another recent quote from the mullahs or Ahmadinejad on how much they like the US and Israel?
"It may be that your whole purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others."
Anon |
| Anonymous Coward
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7/23/2008 10:19 AM | | Re: IRAN: A signal the mullah regime may be ready to fold on the nuke issue | Quote |
That would be cool if they did suspend, They could always run huge powerlines from mother russia's power plants. but then who would Israel want to wipe off the map next? The Sauds or Egypt? |
| Anonymous Coward
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7/23/2008 10:23 AM | | Re: IRAN: A signal the mullah regime may be ready to fold on the nuke issue | Quote |
A couple of days ago, an Iranian vice president of tourism and cultural affairs was widely quoted as saying, "Today Iran is friendly with the peoples of America and Israel. No people in the world is our enemy and this is a source of pride."
This created a bit of a stir and incredulity, given Iran's longstanding hatred of all things Zionist.
Well, it turns out that this gentleman really didn't mean what he said:
The following day, 20 July, Rahim-Masha'i denied the reports of his speech. "This is not what I meant and these are all lies. During my speech I also said that Israel was dead and only its funeral ceremony has been postponed, but they [the press] did not publish these statements," Iranian state radio quoted him as saying.
Fars news agency, which appears to have been the sole source for the vice-president's original, contested, remarks, cited him as declaring: "By `Israel' I meant the Palestinian and Jewish people living in Palestine, not the immigrant Jews or Zionists, because we do not recognize the Zionists at all."
The original Fars report on Rahim-Masha'i's remarks was carried by a number of Iranian newspapers on 20 July, including the reformist E'temad-e Melli and Aftab-e Yazd.
The hardline daily, Keyhan, on 21 July criticized the vice- president over his remarks.
The Iran Press Service adds:
“Sorry, when I said Iranians are friendly with the Israeli people, actually I wanted to say Palestinian people”, Mr. Esfandiar Rahim Mosha’i, the Iranian vice-President in charge of Tourism and Cultural Heritage Organisation corrected on 21 July 2008 his earlier statement...
What surprised more political analysts is that not only the statement by Mr. Rahim Mosha’i is in total contrast with the usual anti-Israeli outbursts by the President and his denial of the Holocaust, postures that have outraged international public opinion, but also he used the words “Israel” and “Israelis” even though that these references are officially prohibited by the Islamic Republic, referring to Israel as the “Zionist Entity” and to the Israelis as “Zionist Occupiers” or “Usurpators”.
In an official, but mild denial, published by the same Fars News on Monday 21 July, Mr. Rahim Mosha’i says “it is obvious that Iran can not be friendly with Zionist usurpators. Everyone should have understood that I made a mistake by saying we are friendly with the Israeli people while I had the Palestinians in mind”, he said, adding “however, as stated by our dear President several time, Iranians have no enmity with the American or the Jewish people, which we distinguish from the Zionists who occupied Palestinian’s homeland”.
How predictable was this? |
| Grizzled Old Goat
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7/23/2008 10:28 AM
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A couple of days ago, an Iranian vice president of tourism and cultural affairs was widely quoted as saying, "Today Iran is friendly with the peoples of America and Israel. No people in the world is our enemy and this is a source of pride."
This created a bit of a stir and incredulity, given Iran's longstanding hatred of all things Zionist.
Well, it turns out that this gentleman really didn't mean what he said:
The following day, 20 July, Rahim-Masha'i denied the reports of his speech. "This is not what I meant and these are all lies. During my speech I also said that Israel was dead and only its funeral ceremony has been postponed, but they [the press] did not publish these statements," Iranian state radio quoted him as saying.
Fars news agency, which appears to have been the sole source for the vice-president's original, contested, remarks, cited him as declaring: "By `Israel' I meant the Palestinian and Jewish people living in Palestine, not the immigrant Jews or Zionists, because we do not recognize the Zionists at all."
The original Fars report on Rahim-Masha'i's remarks was carried by a number of Iranian newspapers on 20 July, including the reformist E'temad-e Melli and Aftab-e Yazd.
The hardline daily, Keyhan, on 21 July criticized the vice- president over his remarks.
The Iran Press Service adds:
“Sorry, when I said Iranians are friendly with the Israeli people, actually I wanted to say Palestinian people”, Mr. Esfandiar Rahim Mosha’i, the Iranian vice-President in charge of Tourism and Cultural Heritage Organisation corrected on 21 July 2008 his earlier statement...
What surprised more political analysts is that not only the statement by Mr. Rahim Mosha’i is in total contrast with the usual anti-Israeli outbursts by the President and his denial of the Holocaust, postures that have outraged international public opinion, but also he used the words “Israel” and “Israelis” even though that these references are officially prohibited by the Islamic Republic, referring to Israel as the “Zionist Entity” and to the Israelis as “Zionist Occupiers” or “Usurpators”.
In an official, but mild denial, published by the same Fars News on Monday 21 July, Mr. Rahim Mosha’i says “it is obvious that Iran can not be friendly with Zionist usurpators. Everyone should have understood that I made a mistake by saying we are friendly with the Israeli people while I had the Palestinians in mind”, he said, adding “however, as stated by our dear President several time, Iranians have no enmity with the American or the Jewish people, which we distinguish from the Zionists who occupied Palestinian’s homeland”.
How predictable was this? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 472276
Well - everything's back to normal again. Thanks for the post..
"It may be that your whole purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others."
Anon |
| kits
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7/23/2008 10:31 AM | | Re: IRAN: A signal the mullah regime may be ready to fold on the nuke issue | Quote |
It's a far cry from:
Israel is "a disgraceful stain on the Islamic world"
“[Addressing a conference in Tehran entitled] The World Without Zionism ... To those who doubt, to those who ask is it possible, or those who do not believe, I say accomplishment of a world without America and Israel is both possible andfeasible.”
I think it is significant. The mullahs are defending against internal regime change.. Quoting: Grizzled Old Goat
Well see, there's a lot of problems with that. For one, "Israel is" wasn't in the quote you provided, so I don't know what specifically was said there. Also, you didn't provide a link, and then more, I can't validate the alleged statement, the alleged speaker, whether or not he/she had the support of the Iranian government, and so forth. I'd also like to point to the fact that people tend to generalize, sometimes as a short-hand of sorts. For example, if the news said "The Americans have declared war on Britain and have begun their invasion," are they referring to me? I'm an American citizen. They're not though, they're not referring to every American. When they said "the Americans" they really meant "the American military." Sort've like how when someone refers to American leadership or policy, they might state "Washington has come to an agreement with Brazil over their territorial dispute." They're not talking about the entire city of Washington, they're referring to the US State Department, US President, or similar.
If you said "I think it's very important that we attack the Iranians soon" you wouldn't be meaning "I think we need to attack and kill every Iranian." Or at least I hope you wouldn't be implying that.
So, I doubt Iran is saying "Extermination of all Americans and Israelis is both possible and feasible." I'd expect they're referring to those Americans and Israelis which are causing them problems. Those who are their direct enemies. Because, of course, Iran isn't capable of the complete genocide of both those nations peoples. They're talking about the Zionists they perceive as running Israel and America and gunning for Iran. They're talking about going after who come after them, not the entirety of the American and Israeli people.
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| Grizzled Old Goat
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7/23/2008 12:38 PM
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It's a far cry from:
Israel is "a disgraceful stain on the Islamic world"
“[Addressing a conference in Tehran entitled] The World Without Zionism ... To those who doubt, to those who ask is it possible, or those who do not believe, I say accomplishment of a world without America and Israel is both possible andfeasible.”
I think it is significant. The mullahs are defending against internal regime change..
Well see, there's a lot of problems with that. For one, "Israel is" wasn't in the quote you provided, so I don't know what specifically was said there. Also, you didn't provide a link, and then more, I can't validate the alleged statement, the alleged speaker, whether or not he/she had the support of the Iranian government, and so forth. I'd also like to point to the fact that people tend to generalize, sometimes as a short-hand of sorts. For example, if the news said "The Americans have declared war on Britain and have begun their invasion," are they referring to me? I'm an American citizen. They're not though, they're not referring to every American. When they said "the Americans" they really meant "the American military." Sort've like how when someone refers to American leadership or policy, they might state "Washington has come to an agreement with Brazil over their territorial dispute." They're not talking about the entire city of Washington, they're referring to the US State Department, US President, or similar.
If you said "I think it's very important that we attack the Iranians soon" you wouldn't be meaning "I think we need to attack and kill every Iranian." Or at least I hope you wouldn't be implying that.
So, I doubt Iran is saying "Extermination of all Americans and Israelis is both possible and feasible." I'd expect they're referring to those Americans and Israelis which are causing them problems. Those who are their direct enemies. Because, of course, Iran isn't capable of the complete genocide of both those nations peoples. They're talking about the Zionists they perceive as running Israel and America and gunning for Iran. They're talking about going after who come after them, not the entirety of the American and Israeli people. Quoting: kits
No, America was the "Great Satan" long before who you refer to as the "Bush zionists" came to power..
"It may be that your whole purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others."
Anon |
| Grizzled Old Goat
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7/23/2008 12:43 PM
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A couple of days ago, an Iranian vice president of tourism and cultural affairs was widely quoted as saying, "Today Iran is friendly with the peoples of America and Israel. No people in the world is our enemy and this is a source of pride."
This created a bit of a stir and incredulity, given Iran's longstanding hatred of all things Zionist.
Well, it turns out that this gentleman really didn't mean what he said:
The following day, 20 July, Rahim-Masha'i denied the reports of his speech. "This is not what I meant and these are all lies. During my speech I also said that Israel was dead and only its funeral ceremony has been postponed, but they [the press] did not publish these statements," Iranian state radio quoted him as saying.
Fars news agency, which appears to have been the sole source for the vice-president's original, contested, remarks, cited him as declaring: "By `Israel' I meant the Palestinian and Jewish people living in Palestine, not the immigrant Jews or Zionists, because we do not recognize the Zionists at all."
The original Fars report on Rahim-Masha'i's remarks was carried by a number of Iranian newspapers on 20 July, including the reformist E'temad-e Melli and Aftab-e Yazd.
The hardline daily, Keyhan, on 21 July criticized the vice- president over his remarks.
The Iran Press Service adds:
“Sorry, when I said Iranians are friendly with the Israeli people, actually I wanted to say Palestinian people”, Mr. Esfandiar Rahim Mosha’i, the Iranian vice-President in charge of Tourism and Cultural Heritage Organisation corrected on 21 July 2008 his earlier statement...
Well maybe things aren't quite so clear. Another nugget from Ahmadinejad earlier today:
Ahmadinejad says U.S. envoy showed Iran respect By Zahra Hosseinian
Wed Jul 23, 8:00 AM ET
[link to news.yahoo.com]
TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Wednesday praised U.S. participation in last week's talks with Tehran on its disputed nuclear program as "a positive step" and said its arch foe had shown respect.
"I advise you not to spoil this positive step ... by using the language of colonial times and by bullying," Ahmadinejad said in a speech broadcast live on state television.
But Ahmadinejad, who was unusually complimentary in his comments about a representative of a country Iran's clerical leaders see as "the Great Satan," made clear Tehran would not halt atomic work the West suspects is aimed at making bombs.
At Saturday's meeting with Iran's chief nuclear negotiator in Geneva, six world powers gave Iran two weeks to answer calls to rein in its nuclear activities or face more sanctions.
"If you imagine that by some threats, sanctions and pressure you can make the Iranian nation retreat, you are again making a mistake," Ahmadinejad said in the southern city of Yasuj.
In a shift of policy, senior U.S. diplomat William Burns joined European Union foreign policy chief Javier Solana and envoys from China, Russia, Britain, France and Germany for the one-day meeting on July 19.
Some Iranian media said this was a victory for Iran.
U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on Monday said Iran must give a "serious answer" within the deadline set by major powers, which have offered trade and technical incentives if Tehran halts uranium enrichment. She said Iran's envoy to the talks, Saeed Jalili, did not address the sextet's offer.
U.S. ENVOY "DIGNIFIED"
Ahmadinejad said the talks in Geneva were "good."
He said Iran wanted negotiations but urged major powers to approach his country respectfully and without threats.
Referring to Burns, Ahmadinejad said: "Their representative in the meeting spoke politely and in a dignified way and he kept respect for the Iranian nation and this was a positive step."
Addressing Washington, he added: "You have taken a positive step towards recognizing the right of the Iranian nation, towards justice, towards repairing (America's) image in the world, towards attracting the attention of the Iranian nation."
"It may be that your whole purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others."
Anon |
| Anonymous Coward
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7/23/2008 12:47 PM | | Re: IRAN: A signal the mullah regime may be ready to fold on the nuke issue | Quote |
Me thinks there's a bit of internal conflict in the Persian Paradise. |
| Pondlady02
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7/23/2008 12:56 PM | | Re: IRAN: A signal the mullah regime may be ready to fold on the nuke issue | Quote |
Israel biggest problem is that iran DOSENT have nukes, but they wish they had so its an excuse for israel to force USA to attack. Hell is it ok for israHELL to have nukes then? lol duality at its best...
this thread dosent deliver...
Deliver what? Quoting: Grizzled Old Goat
A large pepperoni with extra cheese |
| Grizzled Old Goat
The Love Goat
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7/23/2008 1:02 PM
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Me thinks there's a bit of internal conflict in the Persian Paradise. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 472298
Indeed...
[link to frontpagemag.com]
FP: So what is the situation in Iran? Ahmadinejad has a good grip on the country, yes?
Daioleslam: The Iranian regime is experiencing its most difficult situation of the past thirty years. As some Iranian analysts are arguing, the regime is at a turning point that will eventually decide the fate of the Clerical rule. The governmental figures use words such as: “economic disintegration,” “political impasse,” “leadership crisis,” “unprecedented social unrests,” and “total corruption” to describe the conditions in the country.
"It may be that your whole purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others."
Anon |
| Grizzled Old Goat
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7/23/2008 1:06 PM
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Israel biggest problem is that iran DOSENT have nukes, but they wish they had so its an excuse for israel to force USA to attack. Hell is it ok for israHELL to have nukes then? lol duality at its best...
this thread dosent deliver...
Deliver what?
A large pepperoni with extra cheese Quoting: Pondlady02 355072
"It may be that your whole purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others."
Anon |
| Reality is BS
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7/23/2008 1:15 PM
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It's really surreal to live in this country. The US has attacked other countries in illegal wars and engaged in atrocities. Iran hasn't attacked anyone in my lifetime, yet there are people who come on here and try to argue that Iran is evil and must be stopped. Are people really this stupid or are they being payed to take such obviously irrational positions? |
| Grizzled Old Goat
The Love Goat
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7/23/2008 1:26 PM
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It's really surreal to live in this country. The US has attacked other countries in illegal wars and engaged in atrocities. Iran hasn't attacked anyone in my lifetime, yet there are people who come on here and try to argue that Iran is evil and must be stopped. Are people really this stupid or are they being payed to take such obviously irrational positions? Quoting: Reality is BS
Study up! Iran is not exactly a good citizen in the community of nations. Iran was guilty of the US Embassy hostage crisis, engaged in a brutal war of attrition with Iraq in the 80's - and have been the world's foremost sponsor of terrorism since the advent of the mullah regime under Khomeini. They have 2 active proxies making war on Israel, and causing havoc in Lebanon. They have threatened to destroy Israel and US interests in the ME, all while developing nuclear weapons..
Do the math, and report back..
"By the grace of Allah, we (will be) a nuclear power." Ahmadinejad - Agence France Presse, April 27th, 2006.
"We don't shy away from declaring that Islam is ready to rule the world." Ahmadinejad - Le Monde, January 21st, 2006
"It may be that your whole purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others."
Anon |
| Anonymous Coward
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7/23/2008 1:28 PM | | Re: IRAN: A signal the mullah regime may be ready to fold on the nuke issue | Quote |
Iran hasn't attacked anyone in my lifetime, Quoting: Reality is BS
Not openly. They use Hezbollah, and independent 'contractors' for their dirty work. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 472338
7/23/2008 1:29 PM | | Re: IRAN: A signal the mullah regime may be ready to fold on the nuke issue | Quote |
Oh, they'll fold like a house of cards.
You heard it here first. |
| Anonymous Coward
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7/23/2008 1:30 PM | | Re: IRAN: A signal the mullah regime may be ready to fold on the nuke issue | Quote |
Iran hasn't attacked anyone in my lifetime,
Not openly. They use Hezbollah, and independent 'contractors' for their dirty work. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 472298
Yep, cowards use proxies to attack and fight for them. |
| Anonymous Coward
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7/23/2008 1:41 PM | | Re: IRAN: A signal the mullah regime may be ready to fold on the nuke issue | Quote |
Iran hasn't attacked anyone in my lifetime,
Not openly. They use Hezbollah, and independent 'contractors' for their dirty work.
Yep, cowards use proxies to attack and fight for them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 472338
Oh you mean like the Al-Cia-da does? |
| kits
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7/23/2008 1:46 PM | | Re: IRAN: A signal the mullah regime may be ready to fold on the nuke issue | Quote |
No, America was the "Great Satan" long before who you refer to as the "Bush zionists" came to power.. Quoting: Grizzled Old Goat
No, Zionism has been present in America since long before the current administration. I mean how do you think Iran is supposed to react when the US provided Hussein with financing and weapons including gas which he used on the Iranian people? Are they supposed to just be cool with that? Is Iran supposed to ignore all the times America has incited revolt in Iran, performed assassinations, coups, shot down their commercial airliners, sent their special ops across their borders (invasion) for who the hell knows what, and have just generally harassed and threatened all throughout those decades?
Are they supposed to love America? Really?
And don't even act like Bush is the only person in this country who has ever acted in the interests of Zionism. Israel got their nuclear weapons from the US, Israel has been a major US ally since its founding. Israel has had its lobby groups and what not here influencing things since the beginning, has had its citizens and associates here running these show both directly and indirectly since the beginning. Hell, ask anyone well into the IC what they have to say about Houston, and they'll tell you that it's more of an Israeli city than an American city at this point, what with all the corruption and infiltrations. MOSSAD runs that town, and it sure as hell isn't the only one they do.
The US government, the Israeli government, and Zionists have been at Iran's throat for such a very long time now. So please, please spare yourself the humiliation of suggesting that Bush is the beginning of Zionism in America.
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