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| Grizzled Old Goat  Get off my land.. User ID: 260950 7/24/2008 5:14 PM
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And this is all to happen if America engages Iran? I think you've forgotten that the US has an unrivalled capacity to strike it's enemies, or respond to attacks - not to break up your rather vivid fantasies of the destruction of America.,
Sorry Dude, your theory is colorful, but completely absurd..
Tell that to the 4000+ dead yanks from Iraq!
4000 soldiers killed in a war is one thing - the destruction of America is quite another..
Silliness..
In a war?
Bush declares "End of major combat operations" (May 2003)
On 1 May 2003, Bush landed on the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln, in a Lockheed S-3 Viking, where he gave a speech announcing the end of major combat operations in the Iraq war. Bush's landing was criticized by opponents as an overly theatrical and expensive stunt. Clearly visible in the background was a banner stating "Mission Accomplished." The banner, made by White House staff and supplied by request of the U.S. Navy,[88] was criticized as premature - especially as sectarian violence and American casualties have continued to increase since the official end of hostilities. The White House subsequently released a statement that the sign and Bush's visit referred to the initial invasion of Iraq and disputing the claim of theatrics. The speech itself noted: "We have difficult work to do in Iraq. We are bringing order to parts of that country that remain dangerous."
You truly are a waste of skin goat shagger... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 465868
Man, you are one thick-headed goof. It's obviously a war - what the f*ck do I care what Bush said? Grow up and debate like an adult fer gawd's sake..
 I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.
Ronald Reagan |
| Grizzled Old Goat  Get off my land.. User ID: 260950 7/24/2008 5:17 PM
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Fuck you grizzeled old cunt..
You Satan worshiping tal MUD munching turd from the sinagog of Satan. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 376260
Thanks (again) for proving that Nazis are stupid assholes. Good job at displaying your debating skills!
:munkeythum: I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.
Ronald Reagan |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 465868 7/24/2008 5:26 PM | | Re: IRAN: A signal the mullah regime may be ready to fold on the nuke issue | Quote |
Fuck you grizzeled old cunt..
You Satan worshiping tal MUD munching turd from the sinagog of Satan.
Thanks (again) for proving that Nazis are stupid assholes. Good job at displaying your debating skills!
:munkeythum: Quoting: Grizzled Old Goat
Did you hear about the Jewish boy that followed a bus home?
He said: papa papa I saved 10 Sheqels by running behind the bus!
His papa turned and slapped his face!
The boy said papa, what did you do that for?
His papa said: you stupid boy if you ran behind a taxi cab you would have saved 25 Sheqels!
The moral of the story is....
It seems you have been slapped a few times goat shagger..... |
| FF User ID: 456207 7/24/2008 5:34 PM | | Re: IRAN: A signal the mullah regime may be ready to fold on the nuke issue | Quote | Goat's one and only agenda is an all out war against Islam, that's his sole fuel for the ongoing hate mongering.
He's nothing but a psychopath ... |
| Grizzled Old Goat  Get off my land.. User ID: 260950 7/24/2008 5:36 PM
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Fuck you grizzeled old cunt..
You Satan worshiping tal MUD munching turd from the sinagog of Satan.
Thanks (again) for proving that Nazis are stupid assholes. Good job at displaying your debating skills!
:munkeythum:
Did you hear about the Jewish boy that followed a bus home?
He said: papa papa I saved 10 Sheqels by running behind the bus!
His papa turned and slapped his face!
The boy said papa, what did you do that for?
His papa said: you stupid boy if you ran behind a taxi cab you would have saved 25 Sheqels!
The moral of the story is....
It seems you have been slapped a few times goat shagger..... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 465868
Not a funny joke, and not a pertinent story. Seems you nazitards are not only stupid, but completely without wit also..
 I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.
Ronald Reagan |
| Grizzled Old Goat  Get off my land.. User ID: 260950 7/24/2008 5:39 PM
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Goat's one and only agenda is an all out war against Islam, that's his sole fuel for the ongoing hate mongering.
He's nothing but a psychopath ... Quoting: FF 456207
And you're a full-blown nazi jew hater. Your only desire is to see a repeat of the genocide of WW2 Europe, a slaughter that was partly accomplished with the help of your relatives.
FreeFlow is a mental defective sociopath - but it runs in the family, so...
 I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.
Ronald Reagan |
| TX PATRIOT User ID: 440969 7/24/2008 5:48 PM | | Re: IRAN: A signal the mullah regime may be ready to fold on the nuke issue | Quote |
That logic is completely faulty:
Engaging in behavior that we know - without a doubt - will incite WWIII to prevent the possibility of WWIII.
Or stated another way:
Engaging in behaviors that we know – without a doubt – will incite WWIII to prevent the behavior that might lead to WWIII.
It seems that the argument boils down to who will start WWIII first as if it’s a harmless, everyday game of cards.
. Quoting: TX PATRIOT 440969
Curious if I am the only person who sees a real problem with the above logic used by those who support attacking Iran...since the above post has been, for the most part, glossed over?
IMO, the above is really the entire picture in its distilled form.
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| FF User ID: 456207 7/24/2008 5:54 PM | | Re: IRAN: A signal the mullah regime may be ready to fold on the nuke issue | Quote |
And you're a full-blown nazi jew hater. Your only desire is to see a repeat of the genocide of WW2 Europe, a slaughter that was partly accomplished with the help of your relatives. Quoting: Grizzled Old Goat
Yeah again you got nothing but far-fetched gross false accusations and baseless innuendos that only conclude from your own hate against Islam, it's you who wants to see a whole religion dead, you are just the usual master-baiter using plain polemics, excuse me if I don't fall for your attack traps.
I can only LMAO about such age old war tactics, you have to get up earlier to achieve what you want, it's too late asshole! |
| Grizzled Old Goat  Get off my land.. User ID: 260950 7/24/2008 5:57 PM
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That logic is completely faulty:
Engaging in behavior that we know - without a doubt - will incite WWIII to prevent the possibility of WWIII.
Or stated another way:
Engaging in behaviors that we know � without a doubt � will incite WWIII to prevent the behavior that might lead to WWIII.
It seems that the argument boils down to who will start WWIII first as if it�s a harmless, everyday game of cards.
.
Curious if I am the only person who sees a real problem with the above logic used by those who support attacking Iran...since the above post has been, for the most part, glossed over?
IMO, the above is really the entire picture in its distilled form.
. Quoting: TX PATRIOT 440969
Your argument seems to boil down to "if we do anything to reign in the mullah's quest for nuclear weapons - we will ABSOLUTELY incite WW3". That logic is faulty, very faulty. Do you mean to say that the international community of nations should ALWAYS allow those that scream and threaten the loudest to get away with anything? I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.
Ronald Reagan |
| Grizzled Old Goat  Get off my land.. User ID: 260950 7/24/2008 6:00 PM
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Goat's one and only agenda is an all out war against Islam, that's his sole fuel for the ongoing hate mongering.
He's nothing but a psychopath ...
And you're a full-blown nazi jew hater. Your only desire is to see a repeat of the genocide of WW2 Europe, a slaughter that was partly accomplished with the help of your relatives.
Yeah again you got nothing but far-fetched gross false accusations and baseless innuendos that only conclude from your own hate against Islam, it's you who wants to see a whole religion dead, you are just the usual master-baiter using plain polemics, excuse me if I don't fall for your attack traps.
I can only LMAO about such age old war tactics, you have to get up earlier to achieve what you want, it's too late asshole! Quoting: FF 456207

Didn't you attack me with baseless accusations of my "psychopathy" - you tin-hatted moron? Try not to be such an obvious liar and propagandist, you Nazi POS.. I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.
Ronald Reagan |
| FF User ID: 456207 7/24/2008 6:07 PM | | Re: IRAN: A signal the mullah regime may be ready to fold on the nuke issue | Quote | Then stop appearing on my threads only to bash me asshole if you can't take the retaliation!!!
Oh I forgot Israeli apologists have the right to do everything aggressive they please pffffht ... |
| Grizzled Old Goat  Get off my land.. User ID: 260950 7/24/2008 6:10 PM
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Then stop appearing on my threads only to bash me asshole if you can't take the retaliation!!!
Oh I forgot Israeli apologists have the right to do everything aggressive they please pffffht ... Quoting: FF 456207
Don't worry Pickles - I can take it!
 I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.
Ronald Reagan |
| FF User ID: 456207 7/24/2008 6:13 PM | | Re: IRAN: A signal the mullah regime may be ready to fold on the nuke issue | Quote | Btw how do you manage to collect so many one star votes with everyone of your umpteen worthy threads?
I am jealous ... hahaha |
| TX PATRIOT User ID: 440969 7/24/2008 6:32 PM | | Re: IRAN: A signal the mullah regime may be ready to fold on the nuke issue | Quote |
That logic is completely faulty:
Engaging in behavior that we know - without a doubt - will incite WWIII to prevent the possibility of WWIII.
Or stated another way:
Engaging in behaviors that we know � without a doubt � will incite WWIII to prevent the behavior that might lead to WWIII.
It seems that the argument boils down to who will start WWIII first as if it�s a harmless, everyday game of cards.
.
Curious if I am the only person who sees a real problem with the above logic used by those who support attacking Iran...since the above post has been, for the most part, glossed over?
IMO, the above is really the entire picture in its distilled form.
.
Your argument seems to boil down to "if we do anything to reign in the mullah's quest for nuclear weapons - we will ABSOLUTELY incite WW3". That logic is faulty, very faulty. Quoting: Grizzled Old Goat
You are absolutely incorrect in your assessment, GOG. Let me be very clear on my position: If we attack / bomb / invade Iran to reign in their nuclear program that might lead to nuclear weapons, then we will incite WWWIII.
Do you mean to say that the international community of nations should ALWAYS allow those that scream and threaten the loudest to get away with anything? Quoting: Grizzled Old Goat
Scream and threaten? Who are you trying to kid? They have been cooperating with all agencies, which is quite more than anyone can say for Israel.
However, you statement appears to be a diversion attempt. I never even implied such.
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 465868 7/24/2008 6:40 PM | | Re: IRAN: A signal the mullah regime may be ready to fold on the nuke issue | Quote |
Fuck you grizzeled old cunt..
You Satan worshiping tal MUD munching turd from the sinagog of Satan.
Thanks (again) for proving that Nazis are stupid assholes. Good job at displaying your debating skills!
:munkeythum:
Did you hear about the Jewish boy that followed a bus home?
He said: papa papa I saved 10 Sheqels by running behind the bus!
His papa turned and slapped his face!
The boy said papa, what did you do that for?
His papa said: you stupid boy if you ran behind a taxi cab you would have saved 25 Sheqels!
The moral of the story is....
It seems you have been slapped a few times goat shagger.....
Not a funny joke, and not a pertinent story. Seems you nazitards are not only stupid, but completely without wit also..
:d0rk1: Quoting: Grizzled Old Goat
OK, have you heard the one about the Jewish kamikaze pilot that crashed his plane into his brothers scrapyard?
Boy you Jews have no sense of humour! |
| Grizzled Old Goat  Get off my land.. User ID: 260950 7/24/2008 7:26 PM
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Do you mean to say that the international community of nations should ALWAYS allow those that scream and threaten the loudest to get away with anything?
Scream and threaten? Who are you trying to kid? They have been cooperating with all agencies, which is quite more than anyone can say for Israel.
However, you statement appears to be a diversion attempt. I never even implied such.
. Quoting: TX PATRIOT 440969
WRONG AGAIN...
[link to www.jpost.com]
Iran" on Thursday signaled it would no longer cooperate with International Atomic Energy Agency experts investigating for signs of nuclear weapons programs, confirming that the probe - launched a year ago with great expectations - was at a dead end.
Slideshow: Pictures of the week Coming from Iranian Vice President Gholam Reza Aghazadeh, the announcement compounded international skepticism about denting Teheran's nuclear defiance just five days after Teheran stonewalled demands from six world powers to suspend activities that can produce the fissile core of warheads.
Besides demanding a stop to uranium enrichment - which can create both fuel and the nuclear missile payloads - the international community also has been pressuring Teheran to cooperate with the IAEA in its probe of allegations that Teheran hid attempts to make nuclear arms.
That investigation was launched a year ago under a so-called "work plan" between the Vienna-based agency and Teheran.
Back then, IAEA chief Mohamed ElBaradei hailed it as "a significant step forward" that - if honored by Iran - would fill in the missing pieces of Iran's nuclear jigsaw puzzle; nearly two decades of atomic work, all of it clandestine until revealed by dissidents nearly six years ago. And he brushed aside suggestions that Iran was using the work plan as a smoke screen to deflect attention away from its continued defiance of a UN Security Council ban on enrichment.
But the plan ran into trouble just months after it was put into operation. Deadline after deadline was extended because of Iranian foot-dragging. The probe, originally to have been completed late last year, spilled into the first months of 2008, and then beyond.
Iran remains defiant, saying evidence from the US and other board members purportedly backing the allegations was fabricated, and on Thursday Aghazadeh appeared to signal that his country was no longer prepared even to discuss the issue with the Vienna-based IAEA.
Investigating such allegations "is outside the domain of the agency," he said. Any further queries on the issue "will be dealt with in another way," he added, without going into detail.
Britain, one of the main critics of Iran's nuclear activities, was critical.
"We are concerned by reports that Iran is refusing to cooperate with the IAEA on allegations over nuclear weapons," a spokesman for Britain's Foreign Office said on condition of anonymity in line with policy. "The IAEA has raised serious concerns over Iran's activities with a possible military dimension. "If Iran is serious about restoring international confidence in its intentions, it must address these issues."
The IAEA has asked in vain for substantive explanations for what seem to be draft plans to refit missiles with nuclear warheads; explosives tests that could be used to develop a nuclear detonator; military and civilian nuclear links; and a drawing showing how to mold uranium metal into the shape of warheads.
The agency's last Iran report in May reflected ElBaradei's frustration. It said Iran may be withholding information on whether it tried to make nuclear arms, in language described by one senior UN official as unique in its direct criticism of Teheran. I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.
Ronald Reagan |
| TX PATRIOT User ID: 440969 7/24/2008 7:33 PM | | Re: IRAN: A signal the mullah regime may be ready to fold on the nuke issue | Quote |
Quoting: Grizzled Old Goat
You provide a link to a Jewish MSM news source? Biased much?
GOG, since you seem so certain that Iran has refused to cooperate, I feel certain that you have conducted your proper due diligence in confirming this info. As such you should have the link to the IAEA report that indicates the above.
Please provide it to me, and I will review.
While you are at it, please provide IAEA documentation that Israel has joined and is cooperating.
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 472995 7/24/2008 7:36 PM | | Re: IRAN: A signal the mullah regime may be ready to fold on the nuke issue | Quote |
WRONG AGAIN...
[ link to www.jpost.com]
You provide a link to a Jewish MSM news source? Biased much?
GOG, since you seem so certain that Iran has refused to cooperate, I feel certain that you have conducted your proper due diligence in confirming this info. As such you should have the link to the IAEA report that indicates the above.
Please provide it to me, and I will review.
While you are at it, please provide IAEA documentation that Israel has joined and is cooperating.
. Quoting: TX PATRIOT 440969

Dictating terms?
or
lazy? |
| Grizzled Old Goat  Get off my land.. User ID: 260950 7/24/2008 7:40 PM
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WRONG AGAIN...
[ link to www.jpost.com]
You" provide a link to a Jewish MSM news source? Biased much?
GOG, since you seem so certain that Iran has refused to cooperate, I feel certain that you have conducted your proper due diligence in confirming this info. Quoting: TX PATRIOT 440969
Why yes, I spoke to El Baradei personally - we had lunch at the Oak Room at the Plaza Hotel..
 I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.
Ronald Reagan |
| Grizzled Old Goat  Get off my land.. User ID: 260950 7/24/2008 7:42 PM
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Btw how do you manage to collect so many one star votes with everyone of your umpteen worthy threads?
I am jealous ... hahaha Quoting: FF 456207

You are SOOOOO boring..
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Ronald Reagan |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 473013 7/24/2008 7:47 PM | | Re: IRAN: A signal the mullah regime may be ready to fold on the nuke issue | Quote | THE FRIGHTENING TRUTH OF WHY IRAN WANTS A BOMB
by Amir Taheri
Telegraph
April 16, 2006
Last Monday, just before he announced that Iran had gatecrashed “the nuclear club”, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad disappeared for several hours. He was having a khalvat (tête-a-tête) with the Hidden Imam, the 12th and last of the imams of Shiism who went into “grand occultation” in 941.
According to Shia lore, the Imam is a messianic figure who, although in hiding, remains the true Sovereign of the World. In every generation, the Imam chooses 36 men, (and, for obvious reasons, no women) naming them the owtad or “nails”, whose presence, hammered into mankind’s existence, prevents the universe from “falling off”. Although the “nails” are not known to common mortals, it is, at times, possible to identify one thanks to his deeds. It is on that basis that some of Ahmad-inejad’s more passionate admirers insist that he is a “nail”, a claim he has not discouraged. For example, he has claimed that last September, as he addressed the United Nations’ General Assembly in New York, the “Hidden Imam drenched the place in a sweet light”.
Last year, it was after another khalvat that Ahmadinejad announced his intention to stand for president. Now, he boasts that the Imam gave him the presidency for a single task: provoking a “clash of civilisations” in which the Muslim world, led by Iran, takes on the “infidel” West, led by the United States, and defeats it in a slow but prolonged contest that, in military jargon, sounds like a low intensity, asymmetrical war.
In Ahmadinejad’s analysis, the rising Islamic “superpower” has decisive advantages over the infidel. Islam has four times as many young men of fighting age as the West, with its ageing populations. Hundreds of millions of Muslim “ghazis” (holy raiders) are keen to
become martyrs while the infidel youths, loving life and fearing death, hate to fight. Islam also has four-fifths of the world’s oil reserves, and so controls the lifeblood of the infidel. More importantly, the US, the only infidel power still capable of fighting, is hated by most other nations.
According to this analysis, spelled out in commentaries by Ahmadinejad’s strategic guru, Hassan Abassi, known as the “Dr Kissinger of Islam”, President George W Bush is an aberration, an exception to a rule under which all American presidents since Truman, when faced with serious setbacks abroad, have “run away”. Iran’s current strategy, therefore, is to wait Bush out. And that, by “divine coincidence”, corresponds to the time Iran needs to develop its nuclear arsenal, thus matching the only advantage that the infidel enjoys.
Moments after Ahmadinejad announced “the atomic miracle”, the head of the Iranian nuclear project, Ghulamreza Aghazadeh, unveiled plans for manufacturing 54,000 centrifuges, to enrich enough uranium for hundreds of nuclear warheads. “We are going into mass production,” he boasted.
The Iranian plan is simple: playing the diplomatic game for another two years until Bush becomes a “lame-duck”, unable to take military action against the mullahs, while continuing to develop nuclear weapons.
Thus do not be surprised if, by the end of the 12 days still left of the United Nations’ Security Council “deadline”, Ahmadinejad announces a “temporary suspension” of uranium enrichment as a “confidence building measure”. Also, don’t be surprised if some time in June he agrees to ask the Majlis (the Islamic parliament) to consider signing the additional protocols of the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty (NPT).
Such manoeuvres would allow the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) director, Muhammad El-Baradei, and Britain’s Foreign Secretary, Jack Straw, to congratulate Iran for its “positive gestures” and denounce talk of sanctions, let alone military action. The confidence building measures would never amount to anything, but their announcement would be enough to prevent the G8 summit, hosted by Russia in July, from moving against Iran.
While waiting Bush out, the Islamic Republic is intent on doing all it can to consolidate its gains in the region. Regime changes in Kabul and Baghdad have altered the status quo in the Middle East. While
Bush is determined to create a Middle East that is democratic and pro-Western, Ahmadinejad is equally determined that the region should remain Islamic but pro-Iranian. Iran is now the strongest presence in Afghanistan and Iraq, after the US. It has turned Syria and Lebanon into its outer defences, which means that, for the first time since the 7th century, Iran is militarily present on the coast of the Mediterranean. In a massive political jamboree in Teheran last week, Ahmadinejad also assumed control of the “Jerusalem Cause”, which includes annihilating Israel “in one storm”, while launching a take-over bid for the cash-starved Hamas government in the West Bank and Gaza.
Ahmadinejad has also reactivated Iran’s network of Shia organisations in Bahrain, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Yemen, while resuming contact with Sunni fundamentalist groups in Turkey, Egypt, Algeria and Morocco. From childhood, Shia boys are told to cultivate two qualities. The first is entezar, the capacity patiently to wait for the Imam to return. The second is taajil, the actions needed to hasten the return. For the Imam’s return will coincide with an apocalyptic battle between the forces of evil and righteousness, with evil ultimately routed. If the infidel loses its nuclear advantage, it could be worn down in a long, low-intensity war at the end of which surrender to Islam would appear the least bad of options. And that could be a signal for the Imam to reappear.
At the same time, not to forget the task of hastening the Mahdi’s second coming, Ahamdinejad will pursue his provocations. On Monday, he was as candid as ever: “To those who are angry with us, we have one thing to say: be angry until you die of anger!”
His adviser, Hassan Abassi, is rather more eloquent. “The Americans are impatient,” he says, “at the first sight of a setback, they run away. We, however, know how to be patient. We have been weaving carpets for thousands of years.”
• Amir Taheri is a former Executive Editor of Kayhan, Iran’s largest daily newspaper, but now lives in Europe |
| Grizzled Old Goat  Get off my land.. User ID: 260950 7/24/2008 7:51 PM
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THE FRIGHTENING TRUTH OF WHY IRAN WANTS A BOMB
by Amir Taheri
Telegraph
April 16, 2006
Last Monday, just before he announced that Iran had gatecrashed �the nuclear club�, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad disappeared for several hours. He was having a khalvat (tête-a-tête) with the Hidden Imam, the 12th and last of the imams of Shiism who went into �grand occultation� in 941.
According to Shia lore, the Imam is a messianic figure who, although in hiding, remains the true Sovereign of the World. In every generation, the Imam chooses 36 men, (and, for obvious reasons, no women) naming them the owtad or �nails�, whose presence, hammered into mankind�s existence, prevents the universe from �falling off�. Although the �nails� are not known to common mortals, it is, at times, possible to identify one thanks to his deeds. It is on that basis that some of Ahmad-inejad�s more passionate admirers insist that he is a �nail�, a claim he has not discouraged. For example, he has claimed that last September, as he addressed the United Nations� General Assembly in New York, the �Hidden Imam drenched the place in a sweet light�.
Last year, it was after another khalvat that Ahmadinejad announced his intention to stand for president. Now, he boasts that the Imam gave him the presidency for a single task: provoking a �clash of civilisations� in which the Muslim world, led by Iran, takes on the �infidel� West, led by the United States, and defeats it in a slow but prolonged contest that, in military jargon, sounds like a low intensity, asymmetrical war.
In Ahmadinejad�s analysis, the rising Islamic �superpower� has decisive advantages over the infidel. Islam has four times as many young men of fighting age as the West, with its ageing populations. Hundreds of millions of Muslim �ghazis� (holy raiders) are keen to
become martyrs while the infidel youths, loving life and fearing death, hate to fight. Islam also has four-fifths of the world�s oil reserves, and so controls the lifeblood of the infidel. More importantly, the US, the only infidel power still capable of fighting, is hated by most other nations.
According to this analysis, spelled out in commentaries by Ahmadinejad�s strategic guru, Hassan Abassi, known as the �Dr Kissinger of Islam�, President George W Bush is an aberration, an exception to a rule under which all American presidents since Truman, when faced with serious setbacks abroad, have �run away�. Iran�s current strategy, therefore, is to wait Bush out. And that, by �divine coincidence�, corresponds to the time Iran needs to develop its nuclear arsenal, thus matching the only advantage that the infidel enjoys.
Moments after Ahmadinejad announced �the atomic miracle�, the head of the Iranian nuclear project, Ghulamreza Aghazadeh, unveiled plans for manufacturing 54,000 centrifuges, to enrich enough uranium for hundreds of nuclear warheads. �We are going into mass production,� he boasted.
The Iranian plan is simple: playing the diplomatic game for another two years until Bush becomes a �lame-duck�, unable to take military action against the mullahs, while continuing to develop nuclear weapons.
Thus do not be surprised if, by the end of the 12 days still left of the United Nations� Security Council �deadline�, Ahmadinejad announces a �temporary suspension� of uranium enrichment as a �confidence building measure�. Also, don�t be surprised if some time in June he agrees to ask the Majlis (the Islamic parliament) to consider signing the additional protocols of the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty (NPT).
Such manoeuvres would allow the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) director, Muhammad El-Baradei, and Britain�s Foreign Secretary, Jack Straw, to congratulate Iran for its �positive gestures� and denounce talk of sanctions, let alone military action. The confidence building measures would never amount to anything, but their announcement would be enough to prevent the G8 summit, hosted by Russia in July, from moving against Iran.
While waiting Bush out, the Islamic Republic is intent on doing all it can to consolidate its gains in the region. Regime changes in Kabul and Baghdad have altered the status quo in the Middle East. While
Bush is determined to create a Middle East that is democratic and pro-Western, Ahmadinejad is equally determined that the region should remain Islamic but pro-Iranian. Iran is now the strongest presence in Afghanistan and Iraq, after the US. It has turned Syria and Lebanon into its outer defences, which means that, for the first time since the 7th century, Iran is militarily present on the coast of the Mediterranean. In a massive political jamboree in Teheran last week, Ahmadinejad also assumed control of the �Jerusalem Cause�, which includes annihilating Israel �in one storm�, while launching a take-over bid for the cash-starved Hamas government in the West Bank and Gaza.
Ahmadinejad has also reactivated Iran�s network of Shia organisations in Bahrain, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Yemen, while resuming contact with Sunni fundamentalist groups in Turkey, Egypt, Algeria and Morocco. From childhood, Shia boys are told to cultivate two qualities. The first is entezar, the capacity patiently to wait for the Imam to return. The second is taajil, the actions needed to hasten the return. For the Imam�s return will coincide with an apocalyptic battle between the forces of evil and righteousness, with evil ultimately routed. If the infidel loses its nuclear advantage, it could be worn down in a long, low-intensity war at the end of which surrender to Islam would appear the least bad of options. And that could be a signal for the Imam to reappear.
At the same time, not to forget the task of hastening the Mahdi�s second coming, Ahamdinejad will pursue his provocations. On Monday, he was as candid as ever: �To those who are angry with us, we have one thing to say: be angry until you die of anger!�
His adviser, Hassan Abassi, is rather more eloquent. The Americans are impatient, he says, at the first sight of a setback, they run away. We, however, know how to be patient. We have been weaving carpets for thousands of years. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 473013
Good post, and a good laugh to wrap it up! I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.
Ronald Reagan |
| TX PATRIOT User ID: 440969 7/24/2008 7:58 PM | | Re: IRAN: A signal the mullah regime may be ready to fold on the nuke issue | Quote |
WRONG AGAIN...
[ link to www.jpost.com]
You provide a link to a Jewish MSM news source? Biased much?
GOG, since you seem so certain that Iran has refused to cooperate, I feel certain that you have conducted your proper due diligence in confirming this info. As such you should have the link to the IAEA report that indicates the above.
Please provide it to me, and I will review.
While you are at it, please provide IAEA documentation that Israel has joined and is cooperating.
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Dictating terms?
or
lazy? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 472995
Hardly, GOG made the claim that my statement is inaccurate; he should back it up.
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| Grizzled Old Goat  Get off my land.. User ID: 260950 7/24/2008 8:00 PM
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WRONG AGAIN...
[ link to www.jpost.com]
You"" provide a link to a Jewish MSM news source? Biased much?
GOG, since you seem so certain that Iran has refused to cooperate, I feel certain that you have conducted your proper due diligence in confirming this info. As such you should have the link to the IAEA report that indicates the above.
Please provide it to me, and I will review.
While you are at it, please provide IAEA documentation that Israel has joined and is cooperating.
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Dictating terms?
or
lazy?
Hardly, GOG made the claim that my statement is inaccurate; he should back it up.
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I did back it up. Jpost is a good source - just not much admired by jew-haters. The article is citing statements made by El Baradei - not exactly a "zionist", and negotiators for the mullah regime themselves.. So...
WRONG AGAIN I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.
Ronald Reagan |
| TX PATRIOT User ID: 440969 7/24/2008 8:18 PM | | Re: IRAN: A signal the mullah regime may be ready to fold on the nuke issue | Quote |
Hardly, GOG made the claim that my statement is inaccurate; he should back it up.
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I did back it up. Jpost is a good source - just not much admired by jew-haters. The article is citing statements made by El Baradei - not exactly a "zionist", and negotiators for the mullah regime themselves.. So...
WRONG AGAIN Quoting: Grizzled Old Goat
So I correctly understand you, what you are stating is that you don't confirm the info you read against the original sources? You base your views and what you believe is truth by what MSM tells you without research?
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 472995 7/24/2008 8:31 PM | | Re: IRAN: A signal the mullah regime may be ready to fold on the nuke issue | Quote |
So I correctly understand you, what you are stating is that you don't confirm the info you read against the original sources? You base your views and what you believe is truth by what MSM tells you without research?
. Quoting: TX PATRIOT 440969
So I understand you, what you are implying is that don't believe anything, unless you heard the source say the words themelves?
Even then, you might suspect his speech had been altered by some nefarious mind control device? |
| TX PATRIOT User ID: 440969 7/24/2008 8:39 PM | | Re: IRAN: A signal the mullah regime may be ready to fold on the nuke issue | Quote |
So I correctly understand you, what you are stating is that you don't confirm the info you read against the original sources? You base your views and what you believe is truth by what MSM tells you without research?
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So I understand you, what you are implying is that don't believe anything, unless you heard the source say the words themelves?
Even then, you might suspect his speech had been altered by some nefarious mind control device? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 472995
No, AC, if I tell someone that he/she is "wrong", I will only do so if I have first confirmed the info that backs my claim to the best of my ability. Maybe the issue lies in GOG's ability.
GOG, you didn't address the second request in my previous post.
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| TX PATRIOT User ID: 440969 7/24/2008 8:41 PM | | Re: IRAN: A signal the mullah regime may be ready to fold on the nuke issue | Quote | Additionally, GOG provided a dead link.
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 473036 7/24/2008 8:51 PM | | Re: IRAN: A signal the mullah regime may be ready to fold on the nuke issue | Quote | I wonder how many "Jew haters" Gog has helped create since he started posting here.
Hundreds?
Thousands?
Keep up the Good Work, Gog. You're doing a great job. |
| Grizzled Old Goat  Get off my land.. User ID: 473079 7/24/2008 10:07 PM
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I wonder how many "Jew haters" Gog has helped create since he started posting here.
Hundreds?
Thousands?
Keep up the Good Work, Gog. You're doing a great job. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 473036
Jew haters aren't "created" - they emerge from the slime..
 I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.
Ronald Reagan |
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