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ive downloaded the linux livecd but...

 
bewildered
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ive downloaded the linux livecd but...
it downloads as an .iso filetype which im not familiar with.

what are my next steps to open this live cd and how to install on the harddrive

its PC Linux OS

im currently trying to dump vista and all things associated on my HP
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07/23/2008 03:26 PM
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Re: ive downloaded the linux livecd but...
it downloads as an .iso filetype which im not familiar with.

what are my next steps to open this live cd and how to install on the harddrive

its PC Linux OS

im currently trying to dump vista and all things associated on my HP
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Its an iso....burn it!
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07/23/2008 03:27 PM
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Re: ive downloaded the linux livecd but...
open the file with your CD burning application and create a CD
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Re: ive downloaded the linux livecd but...
my apologies, i have burnt it, but how to open and with what application.
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07/23/2008 03:30 PM
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Re: ive downloaded the linux livecd but...
.iso is file type usually containing data for optical discs. It's commonly called an 'image' file.

You will need to record or in other words 'burn' the .iso onto an optical disc using a 'writable' optical drive.

I personally use Nero (not free) for all of my media handling projects to burn things.

I do not know whether Vista has 'burning' capabilities off-hand.

But, I just googled a freeware program which should suffice if you're out of options.

[link to cdburnerxp.se]

That will burn your image.
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07/23/2008 03:31 PM
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Re: ive downloaded the linux livecd but...
I see, apologies for mis-understanding.
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07/23/2008 03:31 PM
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Re: ive downloaded the linux livecd but...
my apologies, i have burnt it, but how to open and with what application.
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Reboot your computer from the cd rom with the disc in place.

If you have no idea about that wait till you try and install Linux!
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07/23/2008 03:35 PM
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Re: ive downloaded the linux livecd but...
You'll need to go into your computer's BIOS and change the boot order to load from CD/DVD-ROM first and not Hard Drive.
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Re: ive downloaded the linux livecd but...
it downloads as an .iso filetype which im not familiar with.

what are my next steps to open this live cd and how to install on the harddrive

its PC Linux OS

im currently trying to dump vista and all things associated on my HP
 Quoting: bewildered 471558

Nice try changing the subject matter now that everyones doom predictions are complete BS.
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Re: ive downloaded the linux livecd but...
.iso is file type usually containing data for optical discs. It's commonly called an 'image' file.

You will need to record or in other words 'burn' the .iso onto an optical disc using a 'writable' optical drive.

I personally use Nero (not free) for all of my media handling projects to burn things.

I do not know whether Vista has 'burning' capabilities off-hand.

But, I just googled a freeware program which should suffice if you're out of options.

[link to cdburnerxp.se]

That will burn your image.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 456634

okay, before you posted this, i had downloaded 7-zip to open the iso files. but when it opens, theres no exe file... a poster above says to change the bios to boot disk, i havent fucked with dos (if thats where the changes need made) Now i dont know if it makes a difference or not but my linux files are on a dvd rw... should it be on a cd-r?

you mention 'image file', why is it an image file and not an exe file... i know once i get the disk to boot the comp ill be good to go, but its getting to boot from the disk thats my drawback at the moment...


guess my knowledge has been put in check as of now....


i appreciate the posts btw from all of yaz cept for the bs doomer
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Re: ive downloaded the linux livecd but...
why are you trying pclinuxos. They havent updated the distro in a while. It still has a old kernel, you will be downloading a huge pile of updates to get it updated.

pclinuxos is nice though, but if you want a up to date distro go with ubuntu. The new 8.401 has the latest kernel 2.64.19

ubuntu with xfce is nice
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Re: ive downloaded the linux livecd but...
why are you trying pclinuxos. They havent updated the distro in a while. It still has a old kernel, you will be downloading a huge pile of updates to get it updated.

pclinuxos is nice though, but if you want a up to date distro go with ubuntu. The new 8.401 has the latest kernel 2.64.19

ubuntu with xfce is nice
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i can appreciate that advice, but are my current problems going to be the same with ubuntu? i only went for pc linux cause i wasnt aware how many versions there were
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07/23/2008 04:32 PM
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Re: ive downloaded the linux livecd but...
ok download

image burn(freeware) far superior to most programs including nero.

download the Linux .iso of choice. Insert your cd if the file is under 700mb. If you downloaded a DVD .iso size distro, then of course you will need a blank dvd.

Open image burn point it towards the file, and burn the distro on slow speed. 2x or 4x no faster, or you will have problems with the live cd, trust me.

check this link for info on getting into various BIOS settings

[link to www.mepis.org]

once in bios you will go to BOOT ORDER or whatever it's called in your bios, using the indicated keys to change your optical drive to first boot device.

some bios's have a key like F6 that will take you into a boot menu outside of the bios itself to allow booting from a device.

if your having this much trouble with even getting the live cd to run, then your going to have more problems using linux.
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07/23/2008 04:33 PM
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If you have no idea about that wait till you try and install Linux!
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yeah, i recommend you to stay with vista by now.

and afair pclinux doesn't support sata disk so far, so if your laptop is pretty new you probbably have one of them satas.
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07/23/2008 04:34 PM
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Re: ive downloaded the linux livecd but...
pclinux os supports SATA disk fine, dont spread misinformation.

DMraid still has problems with it though

i ran pclinux os fine with my sata drives
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07/23/2008 04:37 PM
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Re: ive downloaded the linux livecd but...
my apologies, i have burnt it, but how to open and with what application.



Reboot your computer from the cd rom with the disc in place.

If you have no idea about that wait till you try and install Linux!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 465868

ITs easy to install. Try PCLOS Gnome 2008. It took 5 clicks and 10 min to install.

They put special attention in the install part with this linux version.

The partitions are /(root) /home and /swap. It will automatically make them for you now. You just need to define how big you want them if you dont like the default sizes. My gnome runs off 12g on a 160g drive with duel boot.

Its wayyyyy easier these days.
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Re: ive downloaded the linux livecd but...
pclinux os supports SATA disk fine, dont spread misinformation.

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yeah but this depends on the kernel ver. some months ago i tried pclinux livecd (as of that time latest stable one) and it didn't detect my sata hdd in ahci mode.
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07/23/2008 04:45 PM
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Re: ive downloaded the linux livecd but...
a) make sure you dont just copy the .iso file onto a cd, you have to burn image from iso (which will get you a bunch of files)

b) when your computer first turns on, there should be something that says press DEL or F10 or something like that for bios.. bios is not DOS, its way before DOS.. you should end up in a blue colored menu (usually blue). There will be an option somewhere for boot order. Make sure you dont change anything else unless you know what you are doing.

You may or may not get a notice to "press any key to boot from cd" after you tell your bios to boot cd first and save/reboot.. make sure you do so or it will just skip the cd and boot your hard drive

Also as mentioned ubuntu makes for a much better initial entry point into the linux world.
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07/23/2008 04:48 PM
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Re: ive downloaded the linux livecd but...
this is why 'live' cd's are a joke.

The LEENUCHS crowd needs to get with qemu and do a bundled emulator so it's click and go.

Christ, count on 1000 teenagers in parents basement to fuck up something 5000 ways that ought to be easy.

FUCK.
"I don't know which was scarier...the speech...or the Congress cheering it. He evoked Lincoln. Whenever a President is going to get us into serious trouble...they always use Lincoln."
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07/23/2008 04:53 PM
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Re: ive downloaded the linux livecd but...
Well if you really dont want to use a live cd (which is actually a very simple process), just use vmware or one of those windows based linux distros..

Although that is pretty craptastic, running an OS on top of an OS like that.
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Re: ive downloaded the linux livecd but...
this is why 'live' cd's are a joke.

The LEENUCHS crowd needs to get with qemu and do a bundled emulator so it's click and go.

Christ, count on 1000 teenagers in parents basement to fuck up something 5000 ways that ought to be easy.

FUCK.
 Quoting: LouisWinthorpeIII

LIVECD is smart. That way you can try it out without installing it. And on the desktop there is the install cd icon. Its so simple.

More easy than windows that's for sure. And faster. PCLOS gnome looks incredibly similar to vista/longhorn. And using compiz fusion... whooa nelly thats some sweet eye candy.

Check this shit out...

Compiz Fusion


Oh ya. And its all free.
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07/23/2008 05:24 PM
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Re: ive downloaded the linux livecd but...
this is why 'live' cd's are a joke.

The LEENUCHS crowd needs to get with qemu and do a bundled emulator so it's click and go.

Christ, count on 1000 teenagers in parents basement to fuck up something 5000 ways that ought to be easy.

FUCK.

LIVECD is smart. That way you can try it out without installing it. And on the desktop there is the install cd icon. Its so simple.

More easy than windows that's for sure. And faster. PCLOS gnome looks incredibly similar to vista/longhorn. And using compiz fusion... whooa nelly thats some sweet eye candy.

Check this shit out...

Compiz Fusion


Oh ya. And its all free.
 Quoting: A Concerned Canadian


You are completly missing the point. This poor user doesn't even know how to burn an ISO.

LIVE CD's will continue and forever will be a joke. The 10,000,000 distros are why linux will never have any signifigant hold on anything.

I'll give you this much, you got it right, linux is infact shit.
"I don't know which was scarier...the speech...or the Congress cheering it. He evoked Lincoln. Whenever a President is going to get us into serious trouble...they always use Lincoln."
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07/23/2008 05:36 PM
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Thanks - thats just what I have been waiting for. that is some cool funky shit - downloading it now.

Bill Gates... you are the weakest link...goodbye...


LIVECD is smart. That way you can try it out without installing it. And on the desktop there is the install cd icon. Its so simple.

More easy than windows that's for sure. And faster. PCLOS gnome looks incredibly similar to vista/longhorn. And using compiz fusion... whooa nelly thats some sweet eye candy.

Check this shit out...

Compiz Fusion


Oh ya. And its all free.
 Quoting: A Concerned Canadian
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Bill Gates... you are the weakest link...goodbye...

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i'd rather say:

noid... you are the weakest link...
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07/23/2008 05:42 PM
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Re: ive downloaded the linux livecd but...
this is why 'live' cd's are a joke.

The LEENUCHS crowd needs to get with qemu and do a bundled emulator so it's click and go.

Christ, count on 1000 teenagers in parents basement to fuck up something 5000 ways that ought to be easy.

FUCK.

LIVECD is smart. That way you can try it out without installing it. And on the desktop there is the install cd icon. Its so simple.

More easy than windows that's for sure. And faster. PCLOS gnome looks incredibly similar to vista/longhorn. And using compiz fusion... whooa nelly thats some sweet eye candy.

Check this shit out...

Compiz Fusion


Oh ya. And its all free.


You are completly missing the point. This poor user doesn't even know how to burn an ISO.

LIVE CD's will continue and forever will be a joke. The 10,000,000 distros are why linux will never have any signifigant hold on anything.

I'll give you this much, you got it right, linux is infact shit.
 Quoting: LouisWinthorpeIII

Well you could pay 10 bucks(NOT 400 bucks) and get it shipped to you. That way those who are to fucken scared to learn what an iso is can skip that part. There was a time when you were a poor user and had no clue what an ISO was. You realize that don't you? Do you even know what a live CD is? lmao.

10,000,000 choices that are all free. Kind of nice to have a CHOICE isn't it.

The live CD is everything a windows CD is +1 punjabi.
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07/23/2008 05:57 PM
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OPie, PClinuxOS is an excellent choice unless you have a brand new 64 bit processor.

To use your LiveCD you'll leave in your DVD player and reboot your computer. During the bootup you'll watch the screen and when it says something like "To enter BIOS press the delete button", then you press the delete button. It might some other button but like Esc but usually its the Del key. Then you'll see your BIOS appear onscreen. Look for the bootup options. It'll have a menu for you to boot from the harddrive, CD, floppy, etc. Obviously you'll select boot from CD (which will also work for your DVD player, or it might also say boot from DVD). Then select save and exit. When your computer reboots it'll read the LiveCD and boot you into Linux

Welcome to computer paradise
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07/23/2008 06:00 PM
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OPie, PClinuxOS is an excellent choice unless you have a brand new 64 bit processor.

Welcome to computer paradise
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What, there are 32 bit processors?

chuckle
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07/23/2008 06:05 PM
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Re: ive downloaded the linux livecd but...
OPie, PClinuxOS is an excellent choice unless you have a brand new 64 bit processor.

To use your LiveCD you'll leave in your DVD player and reboot your computer. During the bootup you'll watch the screen and when it says something like "To enter BIOS press the delete button", then you press the delete button. It might some other button but like Esc but usually its the Del key. Then you'll see your BIOS appear onscreen. Look for the bootup options. It'll have a menu for you to boot from the harddrive, CD, floppy, etc. Obviously you'll select boot from CD (which will also work for your DVD player, or it might also say boot from DVD). Then select save and exit. When your computer reboots it'll read the LiveCD and boot you into Linux

Welcome to computer paradise
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 411199


It ain't no biggie. Don't listen to the other 'tards on this thread - live CDs are great. You can try out an OS without installing it first. If you like it you can install it from the CD.

Changing your BIOS setting is very safe and easy. You just change the bootup sequence using the information given you onscreen. Usually the default bootup sequence is

1. Floppy Drive
2. HD0 <-- that means Harddrive Zero, or the first hard drive in your computer with partition 'C' on it, the place where your OS usually goes
3. CD or DVD

so you'll change the bootup sequence to

1 CD or DVD
2 Floppy
3 HD0

later if you want to change back to how it was you can bump up Harddrive Zero to 2 or 1 again.
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Re: ive downloaded the linux livecd but...
To that, Sir, I would suggest that you were conceived out of wedlock whilst mater and pater were already previously "related" by parental commonality.

And would further point out that your shit smells.

Bill Gates... you are the weakest link...goodbye...



i'd rather say:

noid... you are the weakest link...
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Re: ive downloaded the linux livecd but...
If you have no idea about that wait till you try and install Linux!


yeah, i recommend you to stay with vista by now.

and afair pclinux doesn't support sata disk so far, so if your laptop is pretty new you probbably have one of them satas.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 454135

Horrible advice!

Vista sucks balls and people should be encouraged to dump it.

Get Ubuntu - although it might seem intimidating at first, it is actually not difficult to learn and there is a plethora of support available. Installing Ubuntu is easy and is completely menu driven.

The future of computing is open source. Ubuntu, OpenOffice, Firefox, Thunderbird, Pidgin, GIMP... they are ALL better and more stable than their Microsoft counterparts... and they are all FREE!

Go here for more info and support...

[link to ubuntuforums.org]
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Re: ive downloaded the linux livecd but...
OPie, PClinuxOS is an excellent choice unless you have a brand new 64 bit processor.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 411199


just don't forget to download a 64-bit distro. i'm soooo sure you gonna take advantage of that. hahahah





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