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Court Confirms Bushes Dictatorial Powers.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 473076
7/24/2008 10:05 PM | | Re: Court Confirms Bushes Dictatorial Powers. | Quote |
What kind of bushes, blueberry? |
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kits
User ID: 357079
7/24/2008 10:13 PM | | Re: Court Confirms Bushes Dictatorial Powers. | Quote |
So Bush is a lame duck dictator?
I mean explain this to me...he's done in January 09.
This act has a fail safe...not something meant to perscute people who wanna smoke weed and dis the government cuz they don't agree with the path it's on. Yet you don't mention that.
also...the crime of Conspiracy has been books forever.
Unless you've been sleeping the last 8 years or so we do actually have enemies that are operating in our country. Whom if given the chance would greatly enjoy killing as many of us as they can.
This ruling is meant for them...not us and as I mentioned...unless your building a bomb or conspiring to take down the government...it's all ok.
It amazes me how things can get so twisted.
read the actual ruling and relax. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 352419
No it doesn't have a "fail safe." All they have to do is say you're a "terrorist" and that's that. If the people they intend to detain really are terrorists, why can't they be proven as such through the justice system? Why does one man get to decide who's a "terrorist" and who's not? Why does that one man not even have to provide any proof at all? Is that justice to you? If someone is a "terrorist" let the case be presented, allow the defendant to defend him or herself, and let a jury decide what they are. No individual is infallible, no individual knows all, no individual is incapable of being corrupt. Anyone could be a "bad guy" and yet you think, in all your wisdom, that any single government official should be allowed to declare any American citizen a "terrorist" and have them hauled off, forever, to a cage and torture. That's not justice. That's called EVIL.
Are you telling me that you don't believe in fair trial? You don't believe in innocent until proven guilty? You don't believe in proof beyond a reasonable doubt? Because if so you're not only a fool, you're unAmerican. American culture includes those concepts, it's long boasted about possessing those qualities. But not only are you unAmerican, you're a traitor to this country. That's what treason is: Disloyalty. If you think one man should be able to decide who goes to jail, and not even provide evidence and allow a fair trial - you represent everything that America has claimed to oppose and to combat from its very founding.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 462691
7/24/2008 10:13 PM | | Re: Court Confirms Bushes Dictatorial Powers. | Quote |
When it's President Obama and he issues blank enemy combatant designations to his new Youth Corps, you'll understand. Bush's job was to clear the way for what comes next. Real Oppression will come "for the children". |
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kits
User ID: 357079
7/24/2008 10:37 PM | | Re: Court Confirms Bushes Dictatorial Powers. | Quote |
WoW!
That's some powerfull words there kits. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 431103
Thanks. Considering I've been awake for 19 hours, I thought it was alright.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 473090
7/24/2008 10:43 PM | | Re: Court Confirms Bushes Dictatorial Powers. | Quote |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 473095
7/24/2008 10:55 PM | | Re: Court Confirms Bushes Dictatorial Powers. | Quote |
Only good for the fourth circuit. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 424156
7/24/2008 11:01 PM | | Re: Court Confirms Bushes Dictatorial Powers. | Quote |
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Daniel
User ID: 368082
7/24/2008 11:05 PM | | Re: Court Confirms Bushes Dictatorial Powers. | Quote |
Der Fuhrer would be so Proud !!!
Hitler took over - LEGALLY!!!
He dismissed judges and appointed those that agreed with him.
Then he proceeded to change the Laws to suit him.
Daniel
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Frigg Stuyvesant 
User ID: 398933
7/24/2008 11:11 PM
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Decease Nazi Pigs! |
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RememberThis
Flea Bit, Painted Monkey
User ID: 472997
7/24/2008 11:33 PM
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So Bush is a lame duck dictator?
I mean explain this to me...he's done in January 09.
This act has a fail safe...not something meant to perscute people who wanna smoke weed and dis the government cuz they don't agree with the path it's on. Yet you don't mention that.
also...the crime of Conspiracy has been books forever.
Unless you've been sleeping the last 8 years or so we do actually have enemies that are operating in our country. Whom if given the chance would greatly enjoy killing as many of us as they can.
This ruling is meant for them...not us and as I mentioned...unless your building a bomb or conspiring to take down the government...it's all ok.
It amazes me how things can get so twisted.
read the actual ruling and relax. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 352419
I am so comfortable now....not |
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RememberThis
Flea Bit, Painted Monkey
User ID: 472997
7/24/2008 11:38 PM
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Decease Nazi Pigs! Quoting: Frigg Stuyvesant
More Cowbell Baby! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 472568
7/24/2008 11:40 PM | | Re: Court Confirms Bushes Dictatorial Powers. | Quote |
When it's President Obama and he issues blank enemy combatant designations to his new Youth Corps, you'll understand. Bush's job was to clear the way for what comes next. Real Oppression will come "for the children". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 462691
Spot on, that is the NWO, plan........... |
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PaaatRiot101
User ID: 473053
7/25/2008 12:10 AM | | Re: Court Confirms Bushes Dictatorial Powers. | Quote |
What is amazing to me anyway is we have some very informed people here yet no one has mentioned the order that beats all orders
executive order 11049 in effect since 2005 |
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PaaatRiot101
User ID: 473053
7/25/2008 12:12 AM | | Re: Court Confirms Bushes Dictatorial Powers. | Quote |
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 424156
and no it's not BS because it is icluded, covered under executive order 11049
The final ingredient needed to enact this order is rioting> This is why I strongly whenever possible let people knwo about it.
elections will not happen, you won't have to worry about the next president if it's pulled out of TPTB's bag of tricks. |
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PaaatRiot101
User ID: 473053
7/25/2008 12:16 AM | | Re: Court Confirms Bushes Dictatorial Powers. | Quote |
Here's a decent understandable link> federal register has so much shit hard to fathom> But what Bush has done is added, modified, ratified , fine tuned,rewrote EO 11049
[link to www.libertyforlife.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 471957
7/25/2008 12:27 AM | | Re: Court Confirms Bushes Dictatorial Powers. | Quote |
As someone who has actually drafted law, I understand how long it will take to right a legislative wrong. At least a decade. More if it involves criminal rights. Probably twice as long.
It's a circuit court decision, binding only on that circuit. It will be years or decades before it is binding on all states. If other circuit courts have heard similar cases and not ruled in opposition to the said ruling, there is no real ability to go to the supremes (conflict among circuits gets you there, but it has to be the right issue, the right case, and the right time. Are other similar cases pending?).
If there is conflict on the circuits on cases we have hope, but then it has to be a novel case. They reject those that do not pose a new (urgent) legal question. And how many people have filed, had a good attorney, and a novel or contributive case? Not many.
Some circuits (9th) have historically had a lot of losses with the supremes, but they have also added a tremendous amount to the discourse on legal issues. The board has changed, or has it?
This is an important start. As an optomist, I hope that this will start a revolution. Ok, maybe a legal revolt? or are all lawyers co-opted? Wishfull thinking. Full is better than ful. |
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ano
User ID: 473116
7/25/2008 12:32 AM | | Re: Court Confirms Bushes Dictatorial Powers. | Quote |
stop being a enemy combatant ...stop hanging out with anarchist ..stop hanging out with enemies of state...simple ..in times of war all countries enact strong laws for survival.and used to torture and then, hang spies ..imeadiately after interogations.................Islamist still do it ,but they cut off body parts gradually then final beheading results...............................ah for just simple water boarding... ... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 402574
7/25/2008 12:34 AM | | Re: Court Confirms Bushes Dictatorial Powers. | Quote |
Court Confirms President's Dictatorial Powers.
21/07/08 "Huffington Post" -- -- Wake up, America!
On July 15, the Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit ruled by 5 votes to 4 in the case of Al-Marri v. Pucciarelli (PDF) that the president can arrest US citizens and legal residents inside the United States and imprison them indefinitely, without charge or trial, based solely on his assertion that they are "enemy combatants." Have a little think about it, and you'll see that the Fourth Circuit judges have just endorsed dictatorial powers.
[ link to www.informationclearinghouse.info]
Well that really is to bad for them because even the great and mighty judges of this land are mere mortals whose day comes quickly when they to will face their own hearts. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 402574
7/25/2008 12:37 AM | | Re: Court Confirms Bushes Dictatorial Powers. | Quote |
Der Fuhrer would be so Proud !!!
Hitler took over - LEGALLY!!!
He dismissed judges and appointed those that agreed with him.
Then he proceeded to change the Laws to suit him.
Daniel
Quoting: Daniel
And he also was a failure. Just look around it is easy to see we are not better off without liberty than we were with it. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 402574
7/25/2008 12:39 AM | | Re: Court Confirms Bushes Dictatorial Powers. | Quote |
As someone who has actually drafted law, I understand how long it will take to right a legislative wrong. At least a decade. More if it involves criminal rights. Probably twice as long. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 471957
Well that is just to bad then since time is running out very quickly now. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 460456
7/25/2008 12:40 AM | | Re: Court Confirms Bushes Dictatorial Powers. | Quote |
There is no way the neocons will turn over control of the government to anyone outside their group. Bush may disapear but the government will still be controlled by the PNAC traitors.
It probably will require a bit of Martial Law and some pogroms and massive roundups to get the new reich fully rolling. I doubt there will even be an election if Obama's popularity is high enough.
Whatever happens, we know they'll stop at nothing to get what they want. Killing Americans is not a problem for the people in charge today. Killing our Democratic Republic would pose no problem either. |
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agree
User ID: 78910
7/25/2008 12:48 AM | | Re: Court Confirms Bushes Dictatorial Powers. | Quote |
When it's President Obama and he issues blank enemy combatant designations to his new Youth Corps, you'll understand. Bush's job was to clear the way for what comes next. Real Oppression will come "for the children". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 462691
I have been thinking like that too these days - the evil one is a good liar and is cunning - Bush is dumb |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 473134
7/25/2008 1:08 AM | | Re: Court Confirms Bushes Dictatorial Powers. | Quote |
What's the point of being president if you don't have any power! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 461218
7/25/2008 1:22 AM | | Re: Court Confirms Bushes Dictatorial Powers. | Quote |
So Bush is a lame duck dictator?
I mean explain this to me...he's done in January 09.
This act has a fail safe...not something meant to perscute people who wanna smoke weed and dis the government cuz they don't agree with the path it's on. Yet you don't mention that.
also...the crime of Conspiracy has been books forever.
Unless you've been sleeping the last 8 years or so we do actually have enemies that are operating in our country. Whom if given the chance would greatly enjoy killing as many of us as they can.
This ruling is meant for them...not us and as I mentioned...unless your building a bomb or conspiring to take down the government...it's all ok.
It amazes me how things can get so twisted.
read the actual ruling and relax. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 352419
(whispering: Enemies from within? Shhhhhhhh...don't talk about the NeoCons that way) |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 461218
7/25/2008 1:27 AM | | Re: Court Confirms Bushes Dictatorial Powers. | Quote |
stop being a enemy combatant ...stop hanging out with anarchist ..stop hanging out with enemies of state...simple ..in times of war all countries enact strong laws for survival.and used to torture and then, hang spies ..imeadiately after interogations.................Islamist still do it ,but they cut off body parts gradually then final beheading results...............................ah for just simple water boarding... ... Quoting: ano 473116
OMG, it's ANO-ANO again. Such a messenger? We should all bow!
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A Concerned Canadian
User ID: 465589
7/25/2008 2:14 AM
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He's gonna call out his enemies to fight.
"Bring it on" - Bush Jr. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 365308
7/25/2008 2:52 AM | | Re: Court Confirms Bushes Dictatorial Powers. | Quote |
So Bush is a lame duck dictator?
I mean explain this to me...he's done in January 09.
This act has a fail safe...not something meant to perscute people who wanna smoke weed and dis the government cuz they don't agree with the path it's on. Yet you don't mention that.
also...the crime of Conspiracy has been books forever.
Unless you've been sleeping the last 8 years or so we do actually have enemies that are operating in our country. Whom if given the chance would greatly enjoy killing as many of us as they can.
This ruling is meant for them...not us and as I mentioned...unless your building a bomb or conspiring to take down the government...it's all ok.
It amazes me how things can get so twisted.
read the actual ruling and relax. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 352419
"So Bush is a lame-duck dictator?"
He may be more of a lame-dick ductator. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 452634
7/25/2008 3:40 AM | | Re: Court Confirms Bushes Dictatorial Powers. | Quote |
WHY DID WE ALL LET HIM CONTINUE AFTER 9/11. WE ARE SO GUILTY... IT COULD HAVE BEEN SQUASHED BACK THEN. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 472911
7/25/2008 4:02 AM | | Re: Court Confirms Bushes Dictatorial Powers. | Quote |
He has these powers just for 4 month, 4 little months
and then it's over for him.
May be he can then be imprisonned for being a threat to America ?
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 472549
7/25/2008 4:12 AM | | Re: Court Confirms Bushes Dictatorial Powers. | Quote |
bwahahaha....there simply MUST be some way to get the bastard a taste of his own medicine before he leaves office!!! |
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