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| Veritas User ID: 472701 7/24/2008 11:09 AM | | Re: BREAKING!!! in mainstream media, astronaut claims UFO coverup!!! | Quote |
Why would NASA reply so soon, that's the odd thing? Some heads need to roll if they are covering this up.
It proves they are controlled by spin-doctors and disinformation experts. What do they fear? Most likely, being exposed for the moral bankrupts that they are. It really is embarrassing to see such people make complete fools of themselves and persist with such an obvious snow job directed at one of their best and brightest from the Apollo years. Talk about disloyalty to one of your own. A pity Neil Armstrong has stayed silent on this issue for so long - he must have really been got at, or had part of his memory lobe removed. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 472671 7/24/2008 11:13 AM | | Re: BREAKING!!! in mainstream media, astronaut claims UFO coverup!!! | Quote |
Does Edgar Mitchell have a book, documentary, lecture tour coming up?
why was he on Kerrang! radio in the UK?
I think the most interesting thing I heard in his interview was the mention of these secret committees or groups to discuss this of which he is/was a member, you can bet your life they will be working out how to make trillions of dollars from any official 'disclosure'. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 472754
The uk has hardly any talk radio stations, so kerrang is as good as any, and probably a more open minded test audience. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 472671 7/24/2008 11:13 AM | | Anonymous Coward User ID: 465868 7/24/2008 11:14 AM | | Anonymous Coward User ID: 465375 7/24/2008 11:16 AM | | Re: BREAKING!!! in mainstream media, astronaut claims UFO coverup!!! | Quote | Gimme a break already. Be careful who you trust. |
| FYI User ID: 472779 7/24/2008 11:18 AM | | Re: BREAKING!!! in mainstream media, astronaut claims UFO coverup!!! | Quote |
IT'S A COOK BOOK! Quoting: Cunning_linguist
FROM THE TWILIGHT ZONE! |
| nonmaterial structure User ID: 376724 7/24/2008 11:19 AM | | Re: BREAKING!!! in mainstream media, astronaut claims UFO coverup!!! | Quote |
Hi Bob ...
I have the book called "Our Mysterious Spaceship Moon". Strangely enough I picked it up at a garage sale too.
Here are a few more..
Susoni
1. "Our Mysterious Spaceship Moon". Don Wilson. Dell Publishing: 1975.
2. "Secrets of Our Mysterious Spaceship Moon". Don Wilson. Dell Publishing: 1979.
These two books purport that our Moon is a hollow spaceship which has been placed into orbit around the Earth. These books are largely based on an article "Is the Moon a Creation of Intelligence?" in Sputnik magazine, by Mikhail Vasin and Alexander Shcherbakov.
Although American scientists have claimed that the article (Sputnik is a Russian scientific magazine) was intended as a joke, Wilson takes this theory and runs with it.
Both books are crammed with evidence - some quite convincing - that "the moon is hollow". Although Wilson also believes that the Moon may be a base for UFOs, it does not necessarily follow from the hollow Moon theory, nor is the hollow Moon theory dependent upon UFO activity for its validity.
The second book (Secrets) is more explicit on some of the scientific and technical evidence for a hollow Moon.
Interestingly enough, all of the traditional theories of the Moon's origin that Wilson rejects in favor of his theory have recently been discarded by the scientific establishment in favor of a new theory - that early in the Earth's history, a huge meteor or planet struck the Earth, breaking off a big chunk which became the Moon.
Doesn't sound much more plausible than a spaceship Moon!
3. Moongate: "Suppressed Findings of the U.S. Space Program": The NASA-Military Cover-up. William L. Brian, II. Future Science Research Publishing Co.: 1982.
Another hollow-moon book. Although I have not yet read it, my understanding is that it uses the "rings like a bell" evidence, McDonald's motion of the moon study (it behaves like a hollow sphere), and the "surface is much denser than the interior is" fact. Unfortunately, I have not run across this accidentally, and it's value is around $40 (more than I want to pay!)
4. "Worlds in Collision". Immanuel Velikovsky. Doubleday: 1950
see also:
5. "Ages in Chaos", Volume I from the Exodus to King Akhnaton. Doubleday: 1952.
5. "Earth in Upheaval". Doubleday: 1955.
6. "Oedipus and Akhnaton Myth and History". Doubleday: 1960.
Peoples of the Sea (Ages in Chaos). Doubleday: 1977.
7. "Ramses II and His Time" (Ages in Chaos). Doubleday: 1978.
8. "Mankind in Amnesia". Doubleday: 1982.
9. "Stargazers and Gravediggers: Memoirs to Worlds in Collision". William Morrow: 1983.
Note: Velikovsky isn't the guy that started it all, but his popular influence is undoubtable. Although he wrote Worlds in Collision and Ages in Chaos at the same time, Worlds was published first. Velikovsky's basic premise here is that Venus (the planet) popped out of Jupiter as a comet. It then approached the Earth, wreaked all sorts of havoc during the time of the Biblical Exodus, and eventually wound up in circular orbit around the sun as the planet it is today.
All of his books are characterized by a literal reading of ancient mythology. Although he lacks the physical evidence necessary to make this truly convincing (later organized in Earth in Upheaval), Worlds is a fascinating read, and at least plausible: why, for example, would mythologies from around the world refer to Venus as a "cloudy" planet? It has no halo now, but may have in its previous existence as a comet. This book had a tremendous impact on the reading public (though not as much impact on astonomers and historians as Velikovsky would like to think), and since Worlds, innumerable books have been written based on a re-reading of mythology to uncover mysteries of the past; though few are done with as thorough research as Velikovsky's.
10. "Moons, Myths and Men". H. S. Bellamy. Harper: 1938
see also:
11. "Built Before the Flood: the Problem of the Tiahuanaco Ruins". Faber & Faber: 1943.
12. "The Atlantis Myth". Faber & Faber: 1949.
13. "The Calendar to Tiahuanaco". with P. Allen. Faber & Faber: 1956.
14. "The Great Idol of Tiahuanaco": an Interpretation in the Light of the Hoerbiger Theory of Satellites of the Glyphs Carved on It. with P. Allen. Faber & Faber: 1959.
Although I have not read it (yet) Moons sounds like an absolutely fascinating book. Bellamy's work examines the mythologies of cultures from across the world. His conclusion is that all of the legends point to a time in human memory when there was no Moon orbiting Earth! Bellamy's work, if true, would support a very recent "capture theory" of the origin of the Moon, or, of course, that the Moon is a spaceship recently arrived!
Note: There are, of course, many "unorthodox" theories out there. This list is composed only of books which do a decent job of supporting their argument. As this general field is a favorite of mine, we will be adding to this list as I read (or hear about) more. Quoting: Susoni |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 259352 7/24/2008 11:31 AM | | Re: BREAKING!!! in mainstream media, astronaut claims UFO coverup!!! | Quote |
The uk has hardly any talk radio stations, so kerrang is as good as any, and probably a more open minded test audience. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 472671
UK has plenty of talk radio.
Dont know why everyone is so excited about this.
This guy is asking us to believe him, because he faked going to the moon? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 469982 7/24/2008 11:34 AM | | Re: BREAKING!!! in mainstream media, astronaut claims UFO coverup!!! | Quote | LOL it's pathetic how every thread is being hijacked by bible thumpers. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 465829 7/24/2008 11:35 AM | | Re: BREAKING!!! in mainstream media, astronaut claims UFO coverup!!! | Quote | nasa will probably just say that Mitchell (an M.I.T. grad with a Doctor of Science) lost his mind.
i'm guessing nasa leaked the news about Lisa Nowak so make future astronauts look crazy.... although that's a bad idea since it makes nasa look bad.
so nasa can now either choose to make Dr. Mitchell appear to be crazy, which will make nasa look bad or they can choose to agree with Dr. Mitchell and help humanity. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 327736 7/24/2008 11:42 AM | | Re: BREAKING!!! in mainstream media, astronaut claims UFO coverup!!! | Quote |
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 472671
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 472744 7/24/2008 11:51 AM | | Re: BREAKING!!! in mainstream media, astronaut claims UFO coverup!!! | Quote |
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 444934
Hmmnn...well, the OP controls the GLP as you can see. But I saw yours yesterday, so you are the original. He posted it today so others who had not seen it yet would be alerted.
Okay? Don't be sad. :) A pin on a thread doesn't mean much to many GLPers. Like me. I read what I like. |
| Joqui User ID: 421667 7/24/2008 11:55 AM
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It's a proven fact that there is no intelligent life within NASA or any government. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 442346
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 471869 7/24/2008 12:05 PM | | Re: BREAKING!!! in mainstream media, astronaut claims UFO coverup!!! | Quote |
Michelle and all of the right wing Christian nut-jobs that infect this forum are probably the very reason disclosure hasn't happened sooner. We can't scare the unevolved too fast ... heaven forbid!
The Universe is probably teaming with life and the Christian arrogants still think they are so damn special. They want the Universe all to themselves. Holy dumb as a post, Batman!!!! Quoting: User # 78/68
The Christian religion along with the other fraudulent monotheistic belief systems are evil despicable totalitarian regimes mediated by barbaric old men who maintain control via lies, subterfuge, and continuous bloodshed along with a highly ignorant population; A population starved and longing for a spiritual reconnection with our planet.
Contact will a type II or III civilization will not be made until organized religion ceases to exist.
We know that won't happen for the obvious and simple reason that our entire human species are barely half thinking primates.
We're fresh out of the swamp and have a long way to go my brothers and sisters.
It's not looking good. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 472798 7/24/2008 12:11 PM | | Re: BREAKING!!! in mainstream media, astronaut claims UFO coverup!!! | Quote |
It's a proven fact that there is no intelligent life within NASA or any government. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 442346
Well said..! perhaps that's what the aliens think too...! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 338227 7/24/2008 12:15 PM | | Re: BREAKING!!! in mainstream media, astronaut claims UFO coverup!!! | Quote |
Moon-walker claims alien contact cover-up
July 24, 2008 12:01am
FORMER NASA astronaut and moon-walker Dr Edgar Mitchell - a veteran of the Apollo 14 mission - has stunningly claimed aliens exist.
And he says extra-terrestrials have visited Earth on several occasions - but the alien contact has been repeatedly covered up by governments for six decades.
Dr Mitchell, 77, said during a radio interview that sources at the space agency who had had contact with aliens described the beings as 'little people who look strange to us.'
He said supposedly real-life ET's were similar to the traditional image of a small frame, large eyes and head.
Chillingly, he claimed our technology is "not nearly as sophisticated" as theirs and "had they been hostile", he warned "we would be been gone by now".
Dr Mitchell, along with with Apollo 14 commander Alan Shepard, holds the record for the longest ever moon walk, at nine hours and 17 minutes following their 1971 mission.
"I happen to have been privileged enough to be in on the fact that we've been visited on this planet and the UFO phenomena is real," Dr Mitchell said.
"It's been well covered up by all our governments for the last 60 years or so, but slowly it's leaked out and some of us have been privileged to have been briefed on some of it.
"I've been in military and intelligence circles, who know that beneath the surface of what has been public knowledge, yes - we have been visited. Reading the papers recently, it's been happening quite a bit." Quoting: SHR
Interesting choice of words ... "beneath the surface" ... a subtle hint? |
| Open your mind User ID: 472715 7/24/2008 12:19 PM | | Re: BREAKING!!! in mainstream media, astronaut claims UFO coverup!!! | Quote | The question of how humanity might react to its first contact with intelligent aliens was officially raised in the late 1950s by the then newly created National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). Curious as to how discoveries about the origin of the universe might affect society as a whole, NASA contracted with the Brookings Institution, a leading think tank, to research the question. Only a small part of its 100-page answer, which came to be known as “The Brookings Report,” dealt with alien encounter. But it contained a stern warning. “Anthropological files contain many examples of societies, sure of their place in the universe, which have disintegrated when they had to associate with previously unfamiliar societies espousing different ideas and different life ways; others that survived such an experience usually did so by paying the price of changes in values and attitudes and behavior.”
On December 14, 1960, The Brookings Research Institute in Washington released a report prepared during 1960 for NASA entitled “Proposed Studies on the Implications of Peaceful Space Activities for Human Affairs”, including a section entitled “Implications of a Discovery of Extraterrestrial Life”. (Commonly referred to as “the Brookings Institute report”.) The report discusses effects of meeting extraterrestrial life: “It is possible that if the intelligence of these creatures were sufficiently superior to ours, they would choose to have little if any contact with us. . . “ (New York Times, Dec. 15, 1960)
In 1972, as engineers prepared the first space mission that would travel outside of Earth’s solar system, NASA decided to ignore warnings in the 1960 “Brookings Report” about the dangers inherent in contact with an advanced alien race. Instead, the space agency sent an invitation for extraterrestrials to visit Earth. A gold-anodized aluminum plaque engraved with a map showing the location of Earth was attached to the Pioneer 10 spacecraft. When it sent its last message, in January 2003, it was more than 7 billion miles along on a trip that will take it to the star Aldebaran.
In 1958, the United States Congress created the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) under the new Space Act. In the 1960s they adopted a very unusual non-disclosure policy that prohibited NASA management from releasing information concerning the discovery of extraterrestrial life.. The policy was created and fashioned after the Brookings Institution report entitled “Peaceful Uses of Outer Space”.
In that report, the Brookings Institution recommended prohibition of disclosure, with a warning against the revelation of the existence of extraterrestrial life to the people of America or the world. Brookings Institution thinkers feared social, economic and religious upheaval would result. The Brookings Institution’s conclusions were based on the now famous events, which transpired more than 68 years ago, the public reaction to Orson Wells’ radio broadcast of “The War of the Worlds” and the local panic that ensued.
Today, our level of sophistication has surely risen a few notches since that radio broadcast. It’s difficult to understand how a futuristic agency, tasked with the goal of space exploration, can be handicapped by a fear which originated before most of us were born on October 30, 1938.
On December 14, 1960, The Brookings Research Institute in Washington released a report prepared during 1960 for NASA entitled “Proposed Studies on the Implications of Peaceful Space Activities for Human Affairs”, including a section entitled “Implications of a Discovery of Extraterrestrial Life”. (Commonly referred to as “the Brookings Institute report”.) The report discusses effects of meeting extraterrestrial life: “It is possible that if the intelligence of these creatures were sufficiently superior to ours, they would choose to have little if any contact with us. . . “ (New York Times, Dec. 15, 1960) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 472803 7/24/2008 12:20 PM | | Re: BREAKING!!! in mainstream media, astronaut claims UFO coverup!!! | Quote |
The "aliens" are nothing more than the fallen angels spoken of in the Bible. Greys, reptilians, nordics, whatever caste of fallen angel they are, they are NOT to be trusted. They lie to humans and hate us because we were made in the image of the Almighty God, and the Bible says one day we will judge them. They can't stand this, that the children of the Almighty God will judge them, so they do everything within their power to distort the truth and destroy us and keep us from the saving power of Jesus Christ and the inheritance we have through Him. And the only reason they haven't completely destroyed us/earth so far is because they can do nothing outside the will of the Almighty God. They do nothing but kill, steal, and destroy, which is probably what they did to the earth originally before Adam and Eve were created, because the Bible says 2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Don't believe their lies! Even those who work closely with them admit to their penchant for lying. They know their time of judgment is approaching very, very soon, so you can expect them to ratchet up the deception. Shortly, they will be bound for a thousand years, along with all the wicked nephilim spirits, while on earth we have this blessed assurance: Now it will come about that In the last days, The mountain of the house of the Lord Will be established as the chief of the mountains, And will be raised above the hills; And all the nations will stream to it. And many peoples will come and say, 'Come, let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, To the house of the God of Jacob; That He may teach us concerning His ways, And that we may walk in His paths.' For the law will go forth from Zion, And the word of the Lord from Jerusalem. And He will judge between the nations, And will render decisions for many peoples; And they will hammer their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, And never again will they learn war. Come, house of Jacob, and let us walk in the light of the Lord." (Isaiah 2:1-5). Quoting: Michelle
Thats a good quote, with exception:
friday SUNSET to saturday SUNSET is the Saturday sabbath. and the reason Saturday is Sabbath is because Saturday is SATURN, Saturn is YAWEH. Yaweh is the "Lord" the hebrews worshiped, Saturn is Elohim |
| We are not alone! User ID: 472715 7/24/2008 12:23 PM | | Re: BREAKING!!! in mainstream media, astronaut claims UFO coverup!!! | Quote | Former Astronaut Buzz Aldrin, Apollo 11
"There was something out there that, uh, was close enough to be observed and what could it be? Mike (Collins) decided he thought he could see it in the telescope and he was able to do that and when it was in one position, that had a series of ellipses, but when you made it real sharp it was sort of L shaped. That didn't tell us very much."
Former Astronaut Gordon Cooper - Mercury 9, Gemini 5
"several days in a row we sighted groups of metallic, saucer-shaped vehicles at great altitudes over the base, and we tried to get close to them, but they were able to change direction faster than our fighters. I do believe UFOs exists and that the truly unexplained ones are from some other technologically advanced civilization. From my association with aircraft and spacecraft, I think I have a pretty good idea of what everyone on this planet has and their performance capabilities, and I'm sure some of the UFOs at least are not from anywhere on Earth."
Carl Sagan:
"There are more stars in the Universe than there are grains of sand on all the beaches on Earth."
at least 100 billion stars in the Milky Way alone
at least 100 billion galaxies in the entire Universe
at least ten thousand billion billion stars in the Universe
We are not alone! |
| rathmussen User ID: 383866 7/24/2008 12:30 PM | | Re: BREAKING!!! in mainstream media, astronaut claims UFO coverup!!! | Quote |
Michelle and all of the right wing Christian nut-jobs that infect this forum are probably the very reason disclosure hasn't happened sooner. We can't scare the unevolved too fast ... heaven forbid!
The Universe is probably teaming with life and the Christian arrogants still think they are so damn special. They want the Universe all to themselves. Holy dumb as a post, Batman!!!!
The Christian religion along with the other fraudulent monotheistic belief systems are evil despicable totalitarian regimes mediated by barbaric old men who maintain control via lies, subterfuge, and continuous bloodshed along with a highly ignorant population; A population starved and longing for a spiritual reconnection with our planet.
Contact will a type II or III civilization will not be made until organized religion ceases to exist.
We know that won't happen for the obvious and simple reason that our entire human species are barely half thinking primates.
We're fresh out of the swamp and have a long way to go my brothers and sisters.
It's not looking good. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 471869
Well said! Though I'm sure any religious tradition can help a person connect to spirit if that's what they were looking for instead of just a place to belong and feel safe.
Hell even any social system could work...communism, dictatorship, etc. if as a whole we were kind and didn't get so hopped up on having a bit of power.
We're just monkey brains (no offense to monkeys) with an affinity for hierarchy. Aliens won't officially contact us until we stop rampaging and throwing poop on everything that scares us.
Maybe they know something we don't and are unofficially abducting us merely to acquire some interesting DNA of a soon to be extinct species. |
| scottc User ID: 466367 7/24/2008 12:35 PM
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IT'S A COOK BOOK!
FROM THE TWILIGHT ZONE! Quoting: FYI 472779
and that twilight zone came from a short story by sci-fi author damon knight. taht story is called 'to serve man'.
s |
| Hanged Man  The Visionary Co-Creator User ID: 151462 7/24/2008 12:39 PM
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Great post for GLP'ers.
hangedman123@gmail.com |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 357422 7/24/2008 12:39 PM | | Re: BREAKING!!! in mainstream media, astronaut claims UFO coverup!!! | Quote |
The "aliens" are nothing more than the fallen angels spoken of in the Bible. Greys, reptilians, nordics, whatever caste of fallen angel they are, they are NOT to be trusted. They lie to humans and hate us because we were made in the image of the Almighty God, and the Bible says one day we will judge them. They can't stand this, that the children of the Almighty God will judge them, so they do everything within their power to distort the truth and destroy us and keep us from the saving power of Jesus Christ and the inheritance we have through Him. And the only reason they haven't completely destroyed us/earth so far is because they can do nothing outside the will of the Almighty God. They do nothing but kill, steal, and destroy, which is probably what they did to the earth originally before Adam and Eve were created, because the Bible says 2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Don't believe their lies! Even those who work closely with them admit to their penchant for lying. They know their time of judgment is approaching very, very soon, so you can expect them to ratchet up the deception. Shortly, they will be bound for a thousand years, along with all the wicked nephilim spirits, while on earth we have this blessed assurance: Now it will come about that In the last days, The mountain of the house of the Lord Will be established as the chief of the mountains, And will be raised above the hills; And all the nations will stream to it. And many peoples will come and say, 'Come, let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, To the house of the God of Jacob; That He may teach us concerning His ways, And that we may walk in His paths.' For the law will go forth from Zion, And the word of the Lord from Jerusalem. And He will judge between the nations, And will render decisions for many peoples; And they will hammer their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, And never again will they learn war. Come, house of Jacob, and let us walk in the light of the Lord." (Isaiah 2:1-5). Quoting: Michelle
Some are selfish and evil, some aren't. Just like earthlings. |
| Budman User ID: 424127 7/24/2008 12:57 PM
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The "aliens" are nothing more than the fallen angels spoken of in the Bible. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 326376
Michelle has it backwards:
The fallen angels spoken of in the Bible, are nothing more than "aliens". |
| Darkman User ID: 458021 7/24/2008 12:59 PM | | Re: BREAKING!!! in mainstream media, astronaut claims UFO coverup!!! | Quote | lol, at your responses. I am a Christian and completely agree with Michelle.
BTW, Christians have been conspiracy theorists for a very long time. Your opinions of Christians don't matter to us. That was foretold too. We have nothing to fear. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 472783 7/24/2008 1:04 PM | | Re: BREAKING!!! in mainstream media, astronaut claims UFO coverup!!! | Quote |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 272356 7/24/2008 1:04 PM | | Anonymous Coward User ID: 457129 7/24/2008 1:12 PM | | Re: BREAKING!!! in mainstream media, astronaut claims UFO coverup!!! | Quote | Well, anyone who starts babbling about inside information only winds up in one place!
The cemetary! Heart Attack, Cancer, take your pick! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78392 7/24/2008 1:13 PM | | Re: BREAKING!!! in mainstream media, astronaut claims UFO coverup!!! | Quote | They can cover it up as long as they want. But 2012 is around the corner and will be here in no time if we can make it till then. You can already see how the media is starting to pick up on the stories acting like Larry King especially. Why do you think the gov is raping everyone on gas prices? So they can line their pockets with as much money before 2012 b/c they know once free energy is known. Oil will be useless. Its all been in the plan for decades now. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 471410 7/24/2008 1:16 PM | | Re: BREAKING!!! in mainstream media, astronaut claims UFO coverup!!! | Quote | Timing of this makes sense if first contact comes during the Olympics as many seem to think... Not long now! |
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