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| BriGuy
User ID: 467255
7/24/2008 10:12 PM
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because the facts will be laid before us
fuck off |
| BriGuy
User ID: 467255
7/24/2008 10:15 PM
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just saying. a high level of transparency would be needed for this to work. and rightfully so, if they are to declare that this will solve humanities problems
fuck off |
| Poof
User ID: 458746
7/24/2008 10:15 PM | | Re: What's the big deal with a NWO? | Quote |
You are right, age has nothing to do with intelligence. It has to do a bit with experience. I'm not faulting you for being starry eyed even. I think it's great! I just don't like to see people get taken advantage of, and you seem like an easy target. Not everybody has your best interest at heart, and that's the kind of people that would eventually wind up in charge of this world government. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 472879
7/24/2008 10:16 PM | | Re: What's the big deal with a NWO? | Quote |
Oh, ha ha. You speak as if the NWO people are already in control. In actuality, humanity has exploded into countless regional cultures, dialects and belief systems, some of which have become self-governing.
The advantage, the momemtum, is with the side that has a plan. As opponents you have no plan.
The new world order singularity is the natural order becoming manifest, like a flower blooming.
Opponents have no vision. Their plan is chaos. All for the benefit of a selfish few.
Talk about human empathy! Billions currently without running water. What are NWO opponents doing? Nothing! They have no plan and obstruct the efforts of others.
The time has come to put aside our differences for the good of all. Quoting: Moosehead 472847
All these differences are managed by a very few. These few are the ones who control the satanic reality that we live in.
The CREATORS of chaos do have a plan of course. And those plans you can see in manifestation all over. Ordo Ab Chao.
If they were so good in what they did, why don't create something different?
Why don't you comment on the social aspects of their plans 11 exact years before the attacks of September 11. Destroying 3 buildings (3 being the number of MANIFESTATION): two with 110 floors, and another with 47 (4+7 = 11).
What kind of "vision" is this? Isn't that the chaos that you are recriminating on others? So why don't you criticize them as well?
Talk about human empathy!!
If billions are currently without running water, why do you think that is so? Why so many democratically elected governments get to be replaced with bloody dictatorships?
The ones who oppose the NWO do get killed or silenced, in one way or the other.
You are not being honest in your discussion. Why is that?
Time has come long ago for us to put our differences for the good of all.
However on September 11 2001, the "planners" unleashed their plans using the death of 3000 innocent people to oppress, spy and control all the rest.
And you call all of this "for the good of all".
All the money that is being spent on military might, could be used for the betterment of mankind. Why don't they do it?
And why don't you make a "social commentary" on it all?
Up to now you have only been defending the indefensible.
Why? |
| BriGuy
User ID: 467255
7/24/2008 10:19 PM
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that's what I'm afraid of to.
but i have to believe there is better, otherwise there is no point to live. why live when you know things will not get better?
maybe a little starry-eyed yes. but i honestly do have humans best interest in mind.
I fear government as much as anyone else does, but we have to remember that they fear us more. Like a lady afraid of a snake. She's pretty damn scared, but the snake is shitting himself from being afraid
fuck off |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 472879
7/24/2008 10:28 PM | | Re: What's the big deal with a NWO? | Quote |
This whole board has this function.
It is how they plan our "evolution".
The reason that JFK when trying to expose them, got killed.
John Lennon got to be "monitored" while singing for peace and a world where we all would "be as one".
Black leaders claiming for some dignified existence.
It's all about death and suffering.
But it's all a game really.. Shills who practice at being against it, and others in favor of it. Then they switch.
It's the "positive thinking" "abundant" world that we live in. The secret that these mass murderous have used throughout the ages.. That's why they are secretively murderous thieves. |
| BriGuy
User ID: 467255
7/24/2008 10:33 PM
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I just think it'll help solve many problems, and allow us all to move on.
look at E.U.
they're working pretty well. it's like a test run before it goes to production
fuck off |
| JimmyK
User ID: 397865
7/24/2008 10:35 PM | | Re: What's the big deal with a NWO? | Quote |
Ah, this debate will take a book I believe. The very idea of one worldwide government is so fundamentally flawed, I have no idea why I bother to argue about it. The disadvantages should be so obvious and overwhelming that no one in their right mind would seriously consider it. Starry eyed kids that don't understand how people and politics work and slept through world history I guess. For now, I would suggest this: Read 1984. Go do some research into Hitler, and communism. Do some reading about Mugabe down in Zimbabwe. Understand how easy it is for power to be corrupted, without people noticing until it's too late. Then consider that you are suggesting it would be in the best interest to eliminate people who oppose the government and disarming basically everyone in the process. Then come back and explain to the good folks on this forum why you think we have evolved to the point where history cannot repeat itself.
The current fractionalized situation of every man for himself is really the "fundamentally flawed" system, full of conflict and chaos.
What could be the disadvantage of a system we haven't yet tried?
A big worry is how the NWO leader(s) will avoid being corrupted by their power.
The problem is not corruption, the problem is weak leadership. Hitler and Mugabe are both defective examples of humanity. In the NWO era there will exist no more despots.
I would not support any elimination of opponents. That is the red herring that is always brought out to besmirch the NWO efforts.
Like I said, we have a plan. Opponents have only distractions and ad hominem attacks.
Harsh and threatening rhetoric are not needed to implement the New World Order. It will be a reunion of all, for all, with peace and order eternal.
We are in the last throes! Not too much farther to go.
Howdy Moose,
I know many folks reject that there is a God. These also would therefore reject that there is Satan.
However, my position is that there are both and that presents a real problem to the idea that man can somehow live in peace regardless of his differences.
The Christians of the first century were completely pacifist. Stephen was taken out and murdered and his prayer was that God not lay guilt upon those who killed him. This was prior to the conversion of Saul who stood holding their coats as they did the deed.
Saul was later converted while on his way to continue the persecution of the Church. He became a mighty witness for Christ.
Prior to his being killed he made this statement.
Acts 20:29
"For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them"
Even in the very church of Christ, men arose from ambition.
I cannot see man in a carnal world do better than they of whom Paul spoke.
The falling away from the pure Word of God led to what many today lay claim against Christians. But these did not follow God but departed from the truth and the results were devastating.
I do not hold high expectations for man as a species as they prefer to follow after their own desire for power.
A unity of man resulting in universal peace and harmony is not a thing to be expected for it ignores the lust deep in the hearts of many.
We have many denominations today claiming to follow the same book yet clearly divided. It is the lust for power that has caused such division and that unfortunately is the state of man.
It is one thing to say man should not covet that which belongs to another, it is another thing entirely to expect such should be the case.
Can the earth be rid of jealousy? Does anyone actually believe that can be true? In a world where perhaps all looked and talked and thought the same perhaps but that will never be the case.
Utopia is a thing that makes a good episode of The Twilight Zone but can never exist in a world where greed, jealousy, lust and such as is the state of man exists.
Without a true and honest examination of the nature of man, one can only dream of that which sounds ideal but the awakening will prove it simply that, a dream.
We speak of checks and balances yet fail to remember mans definition of the same is what we have today in the concept of MAD which is mutually assured destruction. That is the nature of man and his concept of the same.
regards
JimmyK |
| BriGuy
User ID: 467255
7/24/2008 10:37 PM
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"However, my position is that there are both and that presents a real problem to the idea that man can somehow live in peace regardless of his differences."
the differences are superficial and were created by the 'evil' powers that be.
the only difference is between those who accept this, and those who don't
fuck off |
| Moosehead
User ID: 472847
7/24/2008 10:52 PM | | Re: What's the big deal with a NWO? | Quote |
Oh, ha ha. You speak as if the NWO people are already in control. In actuality, humanity has exploded into countless regional cultures, dialects and belief systems, some of which have become self-governing.
The advantage, the momemtum, is with the side that has a plan. As opponents you have no plan.
The new world order singularity is the natural order becoming manifest, like a flower blooming.
Opponents have no vision. Their plan is chaos. All for the benefit of a selfish few.
Talk about human empathy! Billions currently without running water. What are NWO opponents doing? Nothing! They have no plan and obstruct the efforts of others.
The time has come to put aside our differences for the good of all.
All these differences are managed by a very few. These few are the ones who control the satanic reality that we live in.
The CREATORS of chaos do have a plan of course. And those plans you can see in manifestation all over. Ordo Ab Chao.
If they were so good in what they did, why don't create something different?
Why don't you comment on the social aspects of their plans 11 exact years before the attacks of September 11. Destroying 3 buildings (3 being the number of MANIFESTATION): two with 110 floors, and another with 47 (4+7 = 11).
What kind of "vision" is this? Isn't that the chaos that you are recriminating on others? So why don't you criticize them as well?
Talk about human empathy!!
If billions are currently without running water, why do you think that is so? Why so many democratically elected governments get to be replaced with bloody dictatorships?
The ones who oppose the NWO do get killed or silenced, in one way or the other.
You are not being honest in your discussion. Why is that?
Time has come long ago for us to put our differences for the good of all.
However on September 11 2001, the "planners" unleashed their plans using the death of 3000 innocent people to oppress, spy and control all the rest.
And you call all of this "for the good of all".
All the money that is being spent on military might, could be used for the betterment of mankind. Why don't they do it?
And why don't you make a "social commentary" on it all?
Up to now you have only been defending the indefensible.
Why? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 472879
We need to coexist on Earth together. What is taking place with the CFR, Trilateral and BBs is a plan for the betterment of all. They do not control the timing of singularity and no one person will.
People who do bad things to other people do not belong in positions of power. Let's quit blaming "governments". It's bad leadership.
The NWO will have no more bad leaders like Hitler, Bush or Mugabe.
Once we treat everyone fairly and equally, and eliminate the stark disparities, so that all stakeholders are brought up to first world civilization, you will see a flourishing of wealth and happiness unimagined.
This plan has the best interest of all in mind. Opponents care only for their own safety and well-being. Like I said, people are tired of all the selfishness that has resulted in so much misery for so long.
We should all be grateful to have some forward direction at this critical point in history. We have the means to go global, and it is imperative to our survival.
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| JimmyK
User ID: 397865
7/24/2008 10:59 PM | | Re: What's the big deal with a NWO? | Quote |
This plan has the best interest of all in mind. Opponents care only for their own safety and well-being. Like I said, people are tired of all the selfishness that has resulted in so much misery for so long.
Hi again Moose,
You seem like a person of good intent. Question honestly posed now.
Define all mankind.
How many would have to be eliminated to bring this about?
Who decides who the ones to be eliminated are?
and
How can executing such a plan not rightly be defined as selfishness on the part of those so doing to the detriment of those being done to? |
| Moosehead
User ID: 330109
7/24/2008 11:24 PM | | Re: What's the big deal with a NWO? | Quote |
It was never intended for opponents to be "eliminated". Survival may be at the whim of luck. Wars, weather, natural disasters, earthquakes, hurricanes, disease outbreak. Everyone is under the threat of extinction.
There will not be any need for taking lives unnecessarily.
No one should be defending today's sorry state of affairs. We need someone who will step up with a plan.
The NWO plan represents thousands of hours of careful consideration. It will roll out in our lifetimes.
Hopefully enough of us will be alive to bring the NWO into fruition. Maybe even a few of you folks.
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 472879
7/24/2008 11:29 PM | | Re: What's the big deal with a NWO? | Quote |
We need to coexist on Earth together. What is taking place with the CFR, Trilateral and BBs is a plan for the betterment of all. They do not control the timing of singularity and no one person will.
People who do bad things to other people do not belong in positions of power. Let's quit blaming "governments". It's bad leadership.
The NWO will have no more bad leaders like Hitler, Bush or Mugabe.
Once we treat everyone fairly and equally, and eliminate the stark disparities, so that all stakeholders are brought up to first world civilization, you will see a flourishing of wealth and happiness unimagined.
This plan has the best interest of all in mind. Opponents care only for their own safety and well-being. Like I said, people are tired of all the selfishness that has resulted in so much misery for so long.
We should all be grateful to have some forward direction at this critical point in history. We have the means to go global, and it is imperative to our survival.
They do not have the benefit of all in mind.
Otherwise they would not have created 9/11 - about which you do not want to address - and killed 3000 innocent people, and even more on Iraq.
Read their plans. Its all about control and oppression.
You can see by the high prices of oil and food.
By your constant dogging to address the facts, we can see that you are not being honest.
So your NWO is deceitful just as YOU are.
No surprise really here. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 473112
7/24/2008 11:36 PM | | Re: What's the big deal with a NWO? | Quote |
Starting to make sense, hmmm |
| 1984
User ID: 473115
7/24/2008 11:48 PM | | Re: What's the big deal with a NWO? | Quote |
.1984.
Hi! I'm the government I'm here to help! |
| JimmyK
User ID: 397865
7/25/2008 12:04 AM | | Re: What's the big deal with a NWO? | Quote |
It was never intended for opponents to be "eliminated". Survival may be at the whim of luck. Wars, weather, natural disasters, earthquakes, hurricanes, disease outbreak. Everyone is under the threat of extinction.
There will not be any need for taking lives unnecessarily.
No one should be defending today's sorry state of affairs. We need someone who will step up with a plan.
The NWO plan represents thousands of hours of careful consideration. It will roll out in our lifetimes.
Hopefully enough of us will be alive to bring the NWO into fruition. Maybe even a few of you folks.
“Remember, people will judge you by your actions, not your intentions. You may have a heart of gold -- but so does a hard-boiled egg.” |
| Skipper1975
User ID: 448826
7/25/2008 12:21 AM | | Anonymous Coward
User ID: 405855
7/25/2008 8:58 AM | | Re: What's the big deal with a NWO? | Quote |
Oh, ha ha. You speak as if the NWO people are already in control. In actuality, humanity has exploded into countless regional cultures, dialects and belief systems, some of which have become self-governing.
The advantage, the momemtum, is with the side that has a plan. As opponents you have no plan.
The new world order singularity is the natural order becoming manifest, like a flower blooming.
Opponents have no vision. Their plan is chaos. All for the benefit of a selfish few.
Talk about human empathy! Billions currently without running water. What are NWO opponents doing? Nothing! They have no plan and obstruct the efforts of others.
The time has come to put aside our differences for the good of all.
All these differences are managed by a very few. These few are the ones who control the satanic reality that we live in.
The CREATORS of chaos do have a plan of course. And those plans you can see in manifestation all over. Ordo Ab Chao.
If they were so good in what they did, why don't create something different?
Why don't you comment on the social aspects of their plans 11 exact years before the attacks of September 11. Destroying 3 buildings (3 being the number of MANIFESTATION): two with 110 floors, and another with 47 (4+7 = 11).
What kind of "vision" is this? Isn't that the chaos that you are recriminating on others? So why don't you criticize them as well?
Talk about human empathy!!
If billions are currently without running water, why do you think that is so? Why so many democratically elected governments get to be replaced with bloody dictatorships?
The ones who oppose the NWO do get killed or silenced, in one way or the other.
You are not being honest in your discussion. Why is that?
Time has come long ago for us to put our differences for the good of all.
However on September 11 2001, the "planners" unleashed their plans using the death of 3000 innocent people to oppress, spy and control all the rest.
And you call all of this "for the good of all".
All the money that is being spent on military might, could be used for the betterment of mankind. Why don't they do it?
And why don't you make a "social commentary" on it all?
Up to now you have only been defending the indefensible.
Why?
We need to coexist on Earth together. What is taking place with the CFR, Trilateral and BBs is a plan for the betterment of all. They do not control the timing of singularity and no one person will.
People who do bad things to other people do not belong in positions of power. Let's quit blaming "governments". It's bad leadership.
The NWO will have no more bad leaders like Hitler, Bush or Mugabe.
Once we treat everyone fairly and equally, and eliminate the stark disparities, so that all stakeholders are brought up to first world civilization, you will see a flourishing of wealth and happiness unimagined.
This plan has the best interest of all in mind. Opponents care only for their own safety and well-being. Like I said, people are tired of all the selfishness that has resulted in so much misery for so long.
We should all be grateful to have some forward direction at this critical point in history. We have the means to go global, and it is imperative to our survival.
What the man said..........we just need to coexist or else
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 345185
7/25/2008 9:14 AM | | Re: What's the big deal with a NWO? | Quote |
Hi! I'm the government I'm here to help! Quoting: 1984 473115
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| BriGuy
User ID: 467255
7/25/2008 1:09 PM
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so are people starting to agree with this all? or still think it's mad?
idk seems to be getting there. we all agree on the singularity aspect, I hope, and the benefits that could come from all this. As long as it's handled properly, this sounds all sounds feasible
fuck off |
| Moosehead
User ID: 345027
7/25/2008 1:42 PM | | Re: What's the big deal with a NWO? | Quote |
It makes more sense with each passing day. Just look around.
2000 years from now the present day will look primitive. They will wonder how the earth survived pre-NWO. Not much different than if we were looking back at Julius Caesar's Empire.
Thanks to JimmyK and all the rest who contributed. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 430156
7/25/2008 5:28 PM | | Re: What's the big deal with a NWO? | Quote |
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| BriGuy
User ID: 467255
7/25/2008 8:09 PM
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It makes more sense with each passing day. Just look around.
2000 years from now the present day will look primitive. They will wonder how the earth survived pre-NWO. Not much different than if we were looking back at Julius Caesar's Empire.
Thanks to JimmyK and all the rest who contributed. Quoting: Moosehead 345027
like the way you think.
peace out all
fuck off |
| Anynomous prophet
User ID: 456079
7/26/2008 3:27 PM | | Re: What's the big deal with a NWO? | Quote |
The NWO is the final point when darkness, and its agents of darkness (evil aliens), have completely enslaved humanity. It will be successful, because of heartless, brainwashed individuals that support it. One, because they are severely brainwashed by the idea that the people who will establish the NWO, are compassionate, humans who can express divine love and are actually interest in the future of humans,... and not just selfish, mindless, fiends, who wants nothing but conquest and power, and are filled with vile lust. Which iis who the "people" behind the NWO actually are! Two, they fear the power behind the NWO, and believe supporting it, will actually make them a power position in it, when its established.
Either way, unless they are DIRECTLY involved with the evil agents responsible for it, they will suffer the same fate as everyone else. But, they will suffer it cowardly!
What's even worse, is that the evil agents behind the NWO, don't know themselves that they are being USED by satan, and the demiurge (the evil god of darkness)! So in the end, the only one benefiting, and whos purpose actually gets fulfilled is darkness and the prince of darkness, satan.
The greatest threat to darkness is the will to resist and express true divine love. As it is the essence of the true divine god. Liberation will occur, and darkness and all those who give into darkness and cannot give up the vile pleasures of this evil dimension will collapse into nothingness with darkness, as, evil, the celestial error, is corrected. |
| rken
User ID: 479897
8/6/2008 1:13 PM | | Re: What's the big deal with a NWO? | Quote |
So your starting to see the light. Now how do you suppose were going to get rid of sixy cent of the population of the world. Could have a big war. No that destroys to much infrastructure, how about a nice plague. We don't need to do much. Anitbiotics are failing, were getting strains that are resistent we could take one and help it along. Great idea. But that might kill us also. We could have a vaccine against it. yes that would work. I mean we've tried with aids and the gulf war symdrom not to mention a few others, but those worked to slow. yah but they were good for making a lot of money. Could this be the scenario. makes sense to me. If I were them. There is something available today that will totally protect you from this eventuality and cure what ever is wrong with you in the process, today. But most people are to brain washed to try it. That will eliminate alot of sheep. many will never have the opportunity to hear about it. They have no money for the internet and are poor. that leaves a select few that aren't so mind controlled that they might actually try it. And its right hear in godlikeproductions. in a different forum topic. its called MMS. Its cheap and you can make it yourself. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 500556
11/11/2008 6:40 PM | | Re: What's the big deal with a NWO? | Quote |
NWO
coming to a neighborhood near you.
02012008 |
| abSOLution
User ID: 554372
11/19/2008 7:58 AM | | Re: What's the big deal with a NWO? | Quote |
How could you possibly follow an organization that puts FLUORIDE in the water supply? It's just not right. Don't drink tap water. It's bad for the Pineal Gland (Third Eye). 
"All that we are, is the result, of what we have thought." |
| SeldomSeen Smith Esq.
User ID: 553141
11/19/2008 5:39 PM | | Re: What's the big deal with a NWO? | Quote |
By the Pendulous Balls of the Prophet...
“No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer.
No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation."
David Spangler, Director of Planetary Initiative, United Nations
David Spangler
Former editor New Age Magazine
"Through the activities of our state organizations, the New Age Magazine, our clip service and News Bureau, we are stimulating the public interest and furnishing much valuable material to speakers and writers, and thereby can reasonably claim much credit for the growing interest in favor of compulsory education BY THE STATE."
Supreme Council of Scottish Rite Freemasonry, Charleston, S.C., September 24, 1924 (Scarlet and the Beast, John Daniel, Vol.1, p 235, JKI Pub.,Tyler, TX)
The current ‘Scottish Rite Journal’ periodical
was previously entitled the New Age Magazine
The Scottish Rite Lodge is the largest Freemasonic organization in the world
The Scottish Rite Journal, published from 1903-1989 as The New Age Magazine,
is the official organ of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite, Southern Jurisdiction, USA.
The Supreme Council 33°
1733 16th Street
Washington, DC 20009-3103
[link to www.srmason-sj.org]
Nigel EverGreen, Observations, 30th December 2004
"I shall have influenced history more than any other German. Follow Hitler!
I have initiated him into the secret doctrine, opened his centers to vision and given him the means to communicate with the powers”
Dietrich Eckart, Adolf Hitler’s Thule Society spiritual mentor
Rosio explains this as a Luciferic initiation,
“He established communication with Lucifer, from whom he openly coveted possession…entering into the service of Satan through a Luciferic initiation”
Hitler And The New Age, author Bob Rosio
“When the struggle seems to be drifting defiantly towards a world social democracy there
may still be very great delays and disappointments before it becomes an efficient and
beneficent world system. Countless people – will hate the New World Order – and will
die protesting against it. When we attempt to evaluate its promise, we have to bear in
mind the distress of a generation or so of malcontents, many of them quite gallant and graceful-looking people.”
H.G. Wells, Fabian Socialist, in his book entitled, ‘The New World Order’, 1939
“National Socialism will use its own revolution for establishing a New World Order."
Adolph Hitler during World War II
The New World Order
Noam Chomsky, University of California at Berkeley, March 16, 1991, speech excerpts
[paragraph 10, sentence 1] “Well, now we're back to two visions of the New World Order: the one that's given by the educated classes who understand the way for us to behave and whose eyes are focused on the oratory and there is where George Bush says, George Bush has made it clear that he'll breathe new life into the peace process in the Middle East and all other good things…[paragraph 32, sentence 6] All this has to be overcome if we're to be able to control, if we are to be able to move toward the real New World Order, one based on the rule of force. At home the population has to be in fear, has to be cowering in terror, in fear of terrible enemies about to destroy us. The world has to be put on notice that the surly master will do what it wants. The intellectuals have the responsibility to conceal all of this in beguiling rhetoric. If this picture looks familiar, it's because it is familiar. And that's worth thinking about, too…[paragraph 37, sentence 12] Efforts to imposed sanctions are usually, simply vetoed by the great powers, the United States far in the lead. Just taking the twenty years since George Bush enters the scene, the United States is first by a long shot in vetoing Security Council resolutions on aggression or any relevant issue. In second place, with about half the number of vetoes of the United States is Britain, our lieutenant. The United States and Britain are responsible for about 80 percent of those. In third place, far behind, is France, and fourth place is the Soviet Union. It's less than a third the number of vetoes of Great Britain and about one seventh the number of vetoes of the United States. That, incidentally, tells you how likely we are to be entering a New World Order in which the United Nations will undertake a peace-keeping role with the Russian veto no longer blocking it. These trivial facts, and they are trivial, you'll have to search very far to find any reference to them in the journals of opinion, intellectual journals, media, and so on. In fact, you'll find no reference to them anywhere near the main stream, but they are important facts…[paragraph 49, 50] Meanwhile, editorials and scholarship will be full of praise for the noble righteousness of the U.S. political leaders as they take us to a New World Order. Those are the plans. And they might succeed. Those, at the moment, are the prospects for the Middle East as far as I can see. What about the New World Order? Here we also think alike, and particularly if you read the business press. James Webb, former Reagan Aid Secretary, wrote in the Wall Street Journal, I'm pointing to a Reagan insider that, he was very critical of this, but describes it adequately, he describes the Bush Administration as an extremist Administration which prefers brute force to other means, which has relentlessly maneuvered the country into a neat little war and did so because they're facing domestic problems. They have no way to deal with them. They have only one idea in their heads and that is to turn the United States into a mercenary state, Hessians. We'll carry out the corporate global enforcement role, others will pay us for it…[paragraph 51, 52] We should be a global mafia. If some great country finds that someone is getting in their way, we'll go out and break their bones for them. And since we only fight much weaker enemies, we'll pulverize them. That's the way you do it if you want to show that the world should be run this way. Someone's got to pay us for it. We no longer have the economic base for these actions. He says, if we want to keep our control over the world economic order, we can do it this way, and we'll pound on tables in Germany and Japan and make them pay up. We've got the guns remember. And crudely, we will ensure that the profits from Gulf oil flow to prop up the American economy. Now there's a long record on this, planning in declassified documents and so on. They show that the major U.S. concern, and British concern, over Gulf oil is not so much in access to the oil, but it's control over the profits. Those profits were needed in 1950 to prop up the tottering British economy. By the 1970s, particularly after the last ten years, they were critically necessary for the United States, for U.S. financial institutions, for treasury securities, and so on. So we'll get the funds to keep us going and we'll sell protection to our rivals. We'll be the world's mafia, running a global protection racket.
[paragraph 52] That's the New World Order. Tri-polar economically, three major economic powers, the United States is still the biggest in fact, but declining, relatively, but uni-polar militarily, one military force. No deterrent aggression throughout the game. Nobody's going to prevent us from exercising force. At home there may be a shortage of skilled labor because we've moved toward a Third World type society. Wise course would be...society expected to fill maybe half the jobs in the next ten years are not going to be educated. They'll be in jail, or selling drugs, or killing each other, and so on, not capable of taking skilled work, but there will be plenty of work for them as Hessians. Those again are some of the contours of the emerging New World Order. Well, that's not inevitable. However, it's not unlikely. There's no outside force that's going to prevent it. The responsibility lies right here, obviously.”
‘The New World Order, Noam Chomsky, University of California at Berkeley, March 16, 1991,
[link to www.zmag.org]
“Modern education began...as the propaganda of the Modern State. It sought to establish a new complete ideology and a new spirit which would induce the individual to devote himself and to shape all his activities to one definite purpose, to the attainment and maintenance of a progressive world-socialism.
Thought and behaviour patterns had to be shaped therefore to subserve this objective, to the relative disregard of any other conceivable purpose.
The Modern State became the whole duty of man. This propaganda passed necessarily into a training for public service and a universal public education. ...
No other type of school and no other system of teaching was tolerated ..."
H.G. Wells, "The Shape of Things to Come", 1933
Mount Vernon, September 25, 1798.
Sir: Many apologies are due to you, for my not acknowledging the receipt of your obliging favour of the 22d. Ulto, and for not thanking you, at an earlier period, for the Book 8 you had the goodness to send me.
[Note: Proofs of a Conspiracy &c, by John Robison.]
I have heard much of the nefarious, and dangerous plan, and Doctrines of the Illuminati, but never saw the Book until you were pleased to send it to me.9 The same causes which have prevented my acknowledging the receipt of your letter have prevented my reading the Book, hitherto; namely, the multiplicity of matters which pressed upon me before, and the debilitated state in which I was left after, a severe fever had been removed. And which allows me to add little more now, than thanks for your kind wishes and favourable sentiments, except to correct an error you have run into, of my Presiding over the English lodges in this Country. The fact is, I preside over none, nor have I been in one more than once or twice, within the last thirty years. I believe notwithstanding, that none of the Lodges in this Country are contaminated with the principles ascribed to the Society of the Illuminati. With respect I am &c.
Letter of George Washington to George Washington Snyder, September 25, 1798
The Writings of George Washington from the Original Manuscript Sources, 1745-1799. John C. Fitzpatrick, Editor.--vol. 36
The George Washington Papers at the Library of Congress
Revd Sir: I have your favor of the 17th. instant before me; and my only motive to trouble you with the receipt of this letter, is to explain, and correct a mistake which I perceive the hurry in which I am obliged, often, to write letters, have led you into.
It was not my intention to doubt that, the Doctrines of the Illuminati, and principles of Jacobinism had not spread in the United States.
On the contrary, no one is more truly satisfied of this fact than I am.
The idea that I meant to convey, was, that I did not believe that the Lodges of Free Masons in this Country had, as Societies, endeavoured to propagate the diabolical tenets of the first, or pernicious principles of the latter (if they are susceptible of seperation). That Individuals of them may have done it, or that the founder, or instrument employed to found, the Democratic Societies in the United States, may have had these objects;
and actually had a seperation of the People from their Government in view, is too evident to be questioned.
My occupations are such, that but little leisure is allowed me to read News Papers, or Books of any kind;
the reading of letters, and preparing answers, absorb much of my time. With respect, etc.
Letter of George Washington to George Washington Snyder, October 24, 1798
“Government is not reason, it is not eloquence; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.”
George Washington
"There is sufficient evidence that a number of Societies of the Illuminati have been established in this land. They are doubtless striving to secretly undermine all our ancient institutions, civil and sacred. These societies are clearly leagued with those of the same order in Europe. We live in an alarming period. The Enemies of all order are seeking our ruin. Should infidelity generally prevail, our independence would fall, of course. Our republican government would be annihilated."
Dr. Joseph Willard, President of Harvard University, July 4, 1812
"The governments of the present day have to deal not merely with other governments, with emperors, kings and ministers,
but also with the secret societies which have everywhere their unscrupulous agents, and can at the last moment upset all the governments' plans."
British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli, 1876
"It is certain that Senator Joseph McCarthy did much research on the Communist conspiracy. He came too close when he discovered British Israel and its Kingdom Message propaganda. The following quotes are from an article on a speech given by Senator Joseph McCarthy with the title:
GEORGE WASHINGTON'S SURRENDER:
"And many of the people of the land became Jews. Esther 9:17. The confession of General Cornwallis to General Washington at Yorktown has been well hidden by historians. History books and text books have taught for years that when Cornwallis surrendered his army to General Washington that American independence came, and we lived happily ever after until the tribulations of the twentieth century. Jonathan Williams recorded in his LEGIONS OF SATAN, 1781, that Cornwallis revealed to Washington that "a holy war will now begin on America, and when it is ended America will be supposedly the citadel of freedom, but her millions will unknowingly be loyal subjects to the Crown." Cornwallis went on to explain what would seem to be a self contradiction: "Your churches will be used to teach the Jew's religion and in less than two hundred years the whole nation will be working for divine world government. That government that they believe to be divine will be the British Empire. All religions will be permeated with Judaism without even being noticed by the masses, and they will all be under the invisible all-seeing eye of the Grand Architect of Freemasonry." And indeed George Washington himself was a Mason, and he gave back through a false religion what he had won with his army. Cornwallis well knew that his military defeat was only the beginning of world catastrophe that would be universal and that unrest would continue until mind control could be accomplished through a false religion. What he predicted has come to pass. A brief sketch of American religious history and we have seen Masonry infused into every church in America with their veiled Phallic religion. Darby and the Plymouth Brethren brought a Jewish Christianity to America. Masons Rutherford and Russell started Jehovah Witnesses' Judaism which is now worldwide with their message of the divine kingdom. Mason Joseph Smith started Mormon Judaism with its Jewish teaching of millennialism. At the turn of the twentieth century there appeared the Scofield Bible with a Jewish interpretation of the prophecies. With wide use of this "helpful" aid all the American churches have silently become synagogues. We now have Baptist Jews, Methodist Jews, Church of God Jews, apostate Catholic Jews, and many Protestant Jews throughout America. We are aliens in our own country because of false religion. All are praying for divine deliverance into that "Divine Government" which Cornwallis knew to be the British Empire. A false religion has been used to deceive us into allegiance to our enemies of Yorktown and Bunker Hill. No! Not a gun has been fired but the invisible
and malignant process of conquering America with the Jew's religion has gone on unabated. The Union Jack has been planted in our hearts with religious deception. All has happened "legally," "constitutionally," "freely" and completely within our most sacred trust -- our churches. Religious deception is painless inoculation against Truth. It cannot be removed from the conscience with surgery, yet it is the motivator of our actions and directly controls our lives. Once man gives over to false religion, he is no longer rational because he originates no thought. His life is controlled by whomever controls his religion. The veil of false religion is the sword of Damocles and its power to control humanity defies even the imagination of tyrants who use it. This is not to say that George Washington was a traitor willingly, or knowingly. He was beguiled into a Satanic religious order that insidiously controls men's minds. So have American statesmen and military leaders down through the years given aid and allegiance to the enemies of the United States because they did not have knowledge of the invisible subterfuge that stalks this land. My eyes were opened the day my colleague from Ohio handed me Wagner's FREEMASONRY AN INTERPRETATION. If every American would read it, they would no longer ask why and how it has happened.”
Excerpt from speech 'GEORGE WASHINGTON'S SURRENDER'
Given by Senator Joseph McCarthy, six months before his mouth was closed forever.
Born: 14 November 1908 Died: 2 May 1957
"Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately.
Some of the biggest men in the U. S., in the field of commerce and manufacturing, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something.
They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive,
that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it." President Woodrow Wilson, 1913, in his book The New Freedom
[December 23, 1913 - Federal Reserve Act]
Dispersed throughout 12 USC; ch. 6, 38 Stat. 251
“…Some very shocking documents that I saw at the library of Congress, two [2] weeks ago on August 10th, or on August 9th excuse me, had to do with the hearings of the McCormick-Dickstein committee of November 1934, show that Prescott Bush and the DuPont family, the Remington family, and J.P. Morgan, tried to overthrow the US government, assassinate FDR, and put a Hitler-style fascist state in place. I have in my possession testimony from the McCormick-Dickstein committee in November of 1934 by one of the fascist plotters that they were going to follow Hitler’s model exactly and impose martial law on the United States, round up unemployed people that were useless to the economy and troublemakers & Jews, and put them into internment camps and their plan was, if necessary, to exterminate the people that could not be part of the effort. The only reason the Coup attempt in 1934 didn’t succeed is that they lead, they hired the wrong General to lead it, General Smedley D. Butler, the great marine hero two time Congressional medal of Honor winner, who worked with the plotters just long enough to be able to identify who they were and blew the whistle on them to Congress. Incredibly, after being warned by the FBI & the Justice Department and the Treasury Department, to cease & desist in their NAZI dealings, they had continued them until 1951; there had been 28 additional seizures of NAZI assets and NAZI business fronts between late 1942 and 1951, and that they had moved NAZI assets into Switzerland, Brazil, Argentina, and Panama, and they had continued to do business with their primary NAZI patron who was Fritz Thyssen, who backed Hitler beginning in 1921 and who was the wealthiest man in Germany and a steel and coal Baron who with his partner Frederick Flick essentially built the NAZI war machine along with I.G. Farben [IBM founder]. In 1951, when Fritz Thyssen died in Argentina, Union Banking Corporation was liquidated by the US government, and Prescott Bush received 1.5 million dollars [$1,500,000] for his holdings in his NAZI business and that was the beginning of the Bush family fortune for all intensive purposes. George Bush doesn’t take his philosophical foundations from the Bible or the teachings of Jesus from the sermon on the mount; George Bush takes his inspiration from what he learned from Skull-&-Bones and from the Thule Society that Hitler and Goebbels and Goering cut their teeth in, Bohemian Grove – these evil organizations that perpetrate the ugly things that these criminals are doing to this country for which they must be held accountable. Now you look at the Republican National convention this week and you bring in Arnold Schwarzenegger to speak last night; Schwarzenegger is the son of a NAZI, he has praised Nazi’s, he has praised Hitler. He talked last night in terms like ‘we will not falter, we will not waiver, we will win this war on terror, [Arnold speech highlights] -- ‘He’s a leader who doesn’t flinch, who doesn’t waiver, und who does not back down’. Well, that’s exactly the speech that Hitler made after the Reichstag fire, terrorism and the Homeland being under attack is precisely the issues that Hitler used to subvert everything within the German system of government. This is a criminal regime [Bush Whitehouse DC leadership]; they not only emulate Hitler but it’s genesis comes from Hitler and I defy anyone, an historian, journalist, author, anyone, to come forward and disprove my premise that you cannot differentiate Hitler’s invasion of Poland of 1939 and the Reichstag fire and his attempt to dominate the world from George W. Bush’s unprovoked invasion of Iraq and subversion of the Constitution through the Patriot Act after 911, which I submit is his Reichstag fire. Carl Rove and his minions are every bit the masters of propaganda that Joseph Goebbels was; they literally took lessons from Goebbels and Goering about how to create such brilliant propaganda that Unreality can become Reality and Reality can be subverted to fantasy political subterfuge right before your eyes.
So, there’s just an endless broken record that is leading up to the present era that the Bush family has had a single goal for a hundred years which is to become the most powerful family on the planet and to rule the world, and they are on the verge of doing that under George W. Bush. It’s critical that every citizen of this country rise up and do something because the Day-of-Reckoning is at hand and these people are Nazi’s, they are practicing Nazi philosophy, they are mimicking Nazi tactics, and time is running out.”
John Buchanan Investigative Reporter & Journalist for 35 years,
Interview excerpt ‘Martial Law – Rise of the Police State’ 2004 by Alex Jones
Colonel Jonathan Williams (1751-1815), recorded in his Legions of Satan (1781) that General Cornwallis revealed to General Washington
during the signing of the Article of Capitulation signed by Cornwallis at Yorktown that,
"A holy war will now begin on America, and when it is ended America will be supposedly the citadel of freedom,
but her millions will unknowingly be loyal subjects to the Crown."
Cornwallis went on to explain what would seem to be a self contradiction,
"Your churches will be used to teach the Jew's religion
and in less than two hundred years the whole nation will be working for Divine World Government.
That government that they believe to be divine will be the British Empire.
All religions will be permeated with Judaism without even being noticed by the masses,
and they will all be under the invisible all-seeing eye of the Grand Architect of Freemasonry."
General Cornwallis to General Washington as recorded by Colonel Jonathan Williams (1751-1815), ‘Legions of Satan’, 1781
Remark to reporter Sarah McLendon:
“Yeah, Sarah, if people find out what we’ve done, they’ll chase us down the street and lynch us.”
George Herbert Walker Bush |
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