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Minot Air Force missile launch crew falls asleep

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RememberThis
User ID: 472997
7/24/2008 8:24 PM
Re: Minot Air Force missile launch crew falls asleepQuote

If it were true it would never have made the news, let alone Fox.

Smells like a false flag in the works no?

Yep, does make one wonder...
Exercise DIABLO BRAVO 2008 (DB 08)

https://hseep.dhs.gov/pages/1001_Diabl.aspx

Exercise DIABLO BRAVO 2008 (DB 08) is a National Exercise Program Tier II, nuclear weapons incident exercise, sponsored by the Department of Energy (DOE)/National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA). The primary exercise activity will take place from 28 July - 1 August 2008 in Kitsap County, Washington, with secondary training audiences participating throughout the Nation.

DB08 will involve a comprehensive interagency response at the Federal, State, and local levels. DOE participants include the Accident Response Group (ARG), the Radiological Assistance Program (RAP), the Consequence Management Response Team (CMRT), the Aerial Measuring System, the Atmospheric Release Advisory Capability, the Emergency Management Team and the Nuclear Incident Team (NIT). Additional participants include multiple Federal headquarters elements at dispersed geographic locations, various Federal agency assets designated to respond to such an incident, select Departments and Agencies from the State of Washington, and the Kitsap County emergency response assets.

DIABLO BRAVO 08 is significant because it will be the first inter-agency U.S. nuclear weapons incident exercise to test the response activities to a terrorist attack on nuclear weapons; the first real-time deployment of response assets; the first exercise in which the weapons are in DOE custody under the National Response Framework (NRF).
 Quoting: ShowMe State of Mind


Interesting twang on the Castle Bravo series of tests.

Bravo (Shrimp) was a 2-stage thermonuclear device, which used solid lithium deuteride fuel. It was accidently the largest ever test. The yield was 2.5x greater than expected due to the highly expensive lithium isotope producing extra tritium ("tritium bonus") which greatly increased the yield. The resulting crater was 1.98km wide and 76m deep. The cloud reached 16.5km, was 100km wide with a 7km wide stem. This created the greatest radiological disaster in US history with a large number of civilians heavily irradiated by the fallout. Subsequently, the exclusion zone around the tests was increased to 917,326 square km, a circle 1367km across (aprox. 1% of the Earth's land area). The Japanese fishing vessel Daigo Fukuryu Maru was also heavily contaminated with one crew member later dying, documented here. The main objective of the Castle series was to validate one or more of the EC "emergency capability" weapons that had already entered the stockpile, and produce a deliverable H-bombs.
Aware
User ID: 310466
7/24/2008 8:31 PM
Re: Minot Air Force missile launch crew falls asleepQuote

If it were true it would never have made the news, let alone Fox.

Smells like a false flag in the works no?

Yep, does make one wonder...

. . .

Interesting twang on the Castle Bravo series of tests.

Bravo (Shrimp) was a 2-stage thermonuclear device, which used solid lithium deuteride fuel. It was accidently the largest ever test. The yield was 2.5x greater than expected due to the highly expensive lithium isotope producing extra tritium ("tritium bonus") which greatly increased the yield. The resulting crater was 1.98km wide and 76m deep. The cloud reached 16.5km, was 100km wide with a 7km wide stem. This created the greatest radiological disaster in US history with a large number of civilians heavily irradiated by the fallout. Subsequently, the exclusion zone around the tests was increased to 917,326 square km, a circle 1367km across (aprox. 1% of the Earth's land area). The Japanese fishing vessel Daigo Fukuryu Maru was also heavily contaminated with one crew member later dying, documented here. The main objective of the Castle series was to validate one or more of the EC "emergency capability" weapons that had already entered the stockpile, and produce a deliverable H-bombs.
 Quoting: RememberThis 472997


Speaking of Fox (coincidentally, of course)...

the X-Files episode 'Piper Maru' was based on an exaggeration of the Daigo Maru:

"Piper Maru" is the fifteenth episode of the third season of television series The X-Files. When a French salvage ship sends a diving crew to recover a mysterious wreckage from World War II, the crew falls prey to a bizarre illness and Agents Mulder and Scully join the investigation. The investigation leads to the discovery of a familiar face, and Skinner's being threatened.


[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Black Oil was also involved in the episode:

[link to www.tv.com]

hi
Dreaming Days are Through
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 452430
7/24/2008 8:32 PM
Re: Minot Air Force missile launch crew falls asleepQuote

just trying to scare us into thinking there are hot nukes on the run somewhere. fucking bullshit.

TOO BAD THE NUKES ARE "UNUSABLE" laugh
RememberThis
User ID: 472997
7/24/2008 8:33 PM
Re: Minot Air Force missile launch crew falls asleepQuote

If it were true it would never have made the news, let alone Fox.

Smells like a false flag in the works no?

Yep, does make one wonder...

. . .

Interesting twang on the Castle Bravo series of tests.

Bravo (Shrimp) was a 2-stage thermonuclear device, which used solid lithium deuteride fuel. It was accidently the largest ever test. The yield was 2.5x greater than expected due to the highly expensive lithium isotope producing extra tritium ("tritium bonus") which greatly increased the yield. The resulting crater was 1.98km wide and 76m deep. The cloud reached 16.5km, was 100km wide with a 7km wide stem. This created the greatest radiological disaster in US history with a large number of civilians heavily irradiated by the fallout. Subsequently, the exclusion zone around the tests was increased to 917,326 square km, a circle 1367km across (aprox. 1% of the Earth's land area). The Japanese fishing vessel Daigo Fukuryu Maru was also heavily contaminated with one crew member later dying, documented here. The main objective of the Castle series was to validate one or more of the EC "emergency capability" weapons that had already entered the stockpile, and produce a deliverable H-bombs.


Speaking of Fox (coincidentally, of course)...

the X-Files episode 'Piper Maru' was based on an exaggeration of the Daigo Maru:

"Piper Maru" is the fifteenth episode of the third season of television series The X-Files. When a French salvage ship sends a diving crew to recover a mysterious wreckage from World War II, the crew falls prey to a bizarre illness and Agents Mulder and Scully join the investigation. The investigation leads to the discovery of a familiar face, and Skinner's being threatened.


[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Black Oil was also involved in the episode:

[link to www.tv.com]

hi
 Quoting: Aware


Thx :)
Aware
User ID: 310466
7/24/2008 8:34 PM
Re: Minot Air Force missile launch crew falls asleepQuote

just trying to scare us into thinking there are hot nukes on the run somewhere. fucking bullshit.

TOO BAD THE NUKES ARE "UNUSABLE" laugh
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 452430



LOL - no kidding.

The only nuclear event we have coming is gonna be from the SUN.
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RememberThis
User ID: 472997
7/24/2008 8:35 PM
Re: Minot Air Force missile launch crew falls asleepQuote

just trying to scare us into thinking there are hot nukes on the run somewhere. fucking bullshit.

TOO BAD THE NUKES ARE "UNUSABLE" laugh
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 452430


Why is that?
JimmyK
User ID: 397865
7/24/2008 8:35 PM
Re: Minot Air Force missile launch crew falls asleepQuote

just trying to scare us into thinking there are hot nukes on the run somewhere. fucking bullshit.

TOO BAD THE NUKES ARE "UNUSABLE" laugh
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 452430



Unusable? In whose hands.
RememberThis
User ID: 472997
7/24/2008 8:36 PM
Re: Minot Air Force missile launch crew falls asleepQuote

just trying to scare us into thinking there are hot nukes on the run somewhere. fucking bullshit.

TOO BAD THE NUKES ARE "UNUSABLE" laugh



LOL - no kidding.

The only nuclear event we have coming is gonna be from the SUN.
 Quoting: Aware


The sun is one BIG nuclear event :)
RememberThis
User ID: 472997
7/24/2008 8:37 PM
Re: Minot Air Force missile launch crew falls asleepQuote

just trying to scare us into thinking there are hot nukes on the run somewhere. fucking bullshit.

TOO BAD THE NUKES ARE "UNUSABLE" laugh



Unusable? In whose hands.
 Quoting: JimmyK


We most likely will not be seeing a response on our last 2 posts.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 452430
7/24/2008 8:44 PM
Re: Minot Air Force missile launch crew falls asleepQuote

Why is that?
 Quoting: RememberThis 472997


i'm going to say this clearly. i don't care if you believe it or not...

the good ETs that are here will not allow them to be detonated.
There ya go.

peace
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 473029
7/24/2008 8:48 PM
Re: Minot Air Force missile launch crew falls asleepQuote

If it were true it would never have made the news, let alone Fox.

Smells like a false flag in the works no?

Yep, does make one wonder...
Exercise DIABLO BRAVO 2008 (DB 08)

https://hseep.dhs.gov/pages/1001_Diabl.aspx

Exercise DIABLO BRAVO 2008 (DB 08) is a National Exercise Program Tier II, nuclear weapons incident exercise, sponsored by the Department of Energy (DOE)/National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA). The primary exercise activity will take place from 28 July - 1 August 2008 in Kitsap County, Washington, with secondary training audiences participating throughout the Nation.

DB08 will involve a comprehensive interagency response at the Federal, State, and local levels. DOE participants include the Accident Response Group (ARG), the Radiological Assistance Program (RAP), the Consequence Management Response Team (CMRT), the Aerial Measuring System, the Atmospheric Release Advisory Capability, the Emergency Management Team and the Nuclear Incident Team (NIT). Additional participants include multiple Federal headquarters elements at dispersed geographic locations, various Federal agency assets designated to respond to such an incident, select Departments and Agencies from the State of Washington, and the Kitsap County emergency response assets.

DIABLO BRAVO 08 is significant because it will be the first inter-agency U.S. nuclear weapons incident exercise to test the response activities to a terrorist attack on nuclear weapons; the first real-time deployment of response assets; the first exercise in which the weapons are in DOE custody under the National Response Framework (NRF).
 Quoting: ShowMe State of Mind


LOL- as tho the sheeple matter .

Lookie here we be protecting the sheeples !


How wuz we to know they wuz
gonna nuke some of ya while we wuz practicing?
King Neptune Subscriber
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User ID: 304696
7/24/2008 8:49 PM
Re: Minot Air Force missile launch crew falls asleepQuote

This doesn't suprise me. Air Force recruiting standards are not as high as the Coast Guard's.
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Kanigo2 Subscriber
User ID: 442313
7/24/2008 9:02 PM
Re: Minot Air Force missile launch crew falls asleepQuote

We need to open our horizons people.


More info, not hanging on the info we have.

No intent to search, just making a statement.
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RememberThis
User ID: 472997
7/24/2008 9:05 PM
Re: Minot Air Force missile launch crew falls asleepQuote

Why is that?


i'm going to say this clearly. i don't care if you believe it or not...

the good ETs that are here will not allow them to be detonated.
There ya go.

peace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 452430


Well lets hope so cause I think I live at ground zero.
RememberThis
User ID: 472997
7/24/2008 9:07 PM
Re: Minot Air Force missile launch crew falls asleepQuote

We need to open our horizons people.


More info, not hanging on the info we have.

No intent to search, just making a statement.
 Quoting: Kanigo2


You mean as in more conspiracy theorys LOL jk! man. hiding
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 227342
7/24/2008 9:24 PM
Re: Minot Air Force missile launch crew falls asleepQuote

Question!

If the discrepancy in the number of nukes flown was real and there is an unclaimed nuke out there then how does the code go bad? In other words how can the code go "old" if it isn't updated in the weapon?

I am asking for assistance understanding how these kinds of things work to assess the reality of this being any concern.



Thanks for your input and feedback!
 Quoting: Vedic II
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 431103
7/24/2008 9:25 PM
Re: Minot Air Force missile launch crew falls asleepQuote

Whatttt????

Nobody jumped on this???

"Four officers had completed the process of changing the codes for the system underground in the launch control center and had returned topside to the large living center, which looks much like a ranch house inside and includes six bedrooms, a large kitchen and dining area, gym and a security control center for security forces airmen, according to Air Force officials.

While waiting for permission to bring the device back to base, the three officers with the code component in their possession fell asleep. The fourth officer was not present."

WTF happened to the fourth officer???

Has he/she been found? questioned???

Did he/she let loose the gas???
RememberThis Subscriber
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User ID: 472997
7/24/2008 9:35 PM
Re: Minot Air Force missile launch crew falls asleepQuote

Whatttt????

Nobody jumped on this???

"Four officers had completed the process of changing the codes for the system underground in the launch control center and had returned topside to the large living center, which looks much like a ranch house inside and includes six bedrooms, a large kitchen and dining area, gym and a security control center for security forces airmen, according to Air Force officials.

While waiting for permission to bring the device back to base, the three officers with the code component in their possession fell asleep. The fourth officer was not present."

WTF happened to the fourth officer???

Has he/she been found? questioned???

Did he/she let loose the gas???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 431103


Now I see it. thx!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 405737
7/24/2008 9:47 PM
Re: Minot Air Force missile launch crew falls asleepQuote

why are they always trying to take from Minot..

AND

didnt someone say once there were 3 major places that they would set off a nuke.. and wasn't one of them washington state or portland or??

they always run the SAME drills with the false flag.. 911.. london..
Dread Pirate Roberts
User ID: 469981
7/24/2008 9:51 PM
Re: Minot Air Force missile launch crew falls asleepQuote

yeah! Where IS that fourth airman???
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RememberThis
User ID: 472997
7/24/2008 10:22 PM
Re: Minot Air Force missile launch crew falls asleepQuote

Here is CNN's spin on the story.

[link to www.cnn.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 431103
7/24/2008 11:02 PM
Re: Minot Air Force missile launch crew falls asleepQuote

Here is CNN's spin on the story.

[link to www.cnn.com]
 Quoting: RememberThis 472997



WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Three Air Force officers fell asleep while in control of an electronic component that contained old launch codes for nuclear intercontinental ballistic missiles, a violation of procedure, Air Force officials said Thursday.

The Air Force said the launch codes had been deactivated before the incident, but it was still a violation of protocol, prompting an investigation.

It is the fourth incident in the past year involving problems with secure handling of components of America's nuclear weapons.

The incident occurred July 12, during the changing out of components used to facilitate secure communications between an underground missile-control facility and missile silos near Minot Air Force Base in North Dakota, according to Col. Dewey Ford, a spokesman for the Air Force Space Command in Colorado.

One of the parts, a code component, is for storage and processing. It is considered classified by the Air Force.

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A code component was removed from the equipment at the remote missile-control facility and replaced with a new code component. That made the old component inoperable, but an Air Force source said old launch codes were still contained in the part.

Under standard procedure, the four-officer crew of the facility is supposed to keep the component secure until it is returned to the base. Ford said the crew took the component to a building above the facility and locked the component in a lockbox.

Then, three of the four crew members fell asleep.

This violated Air Force procedure, which calls for at least two of the crew members to remain awake while in control of the component. At the time they were asleep, the crew and the component were in a locked building that is guarded by at least one armed airman at all times.

The airmen were asleep for two to three hours, Ford said.

The component was later returned to the Minot base, and the investigations of procedural violations were started by Missile Command, Space Command, the 20th Air Force and the National Security Agency.

The investigation revealed the codes were not compromised, according to the Air Force. The codes had remained secured, and the crew was inside an area protected by Air Force security at all times, the investigation concluded.

The incident, which was first made public by the Project on Government Oversight, was the fourth misstep involving the handling of America's nuclear weapons in the past year.

Last summer, a B-52 flew from Minot AFB to Barksdale AFB in Louisiana carrying six nuclear warheads that were not supposed to leave Minot. The crew of the bomber did not know that it was carrying nuclear missiles.

In March, the Department of Defense discovered that nuclear triggers had been mistakenly sent to Taiwan and left there for 18 months before being returned to the United States.

In May, Minot's 5th Bomb Wing failed a crucial security inspection. The wing was the same unit involved in the B-52 incident.


Still does not explain anything about the 4th Airman.

Was he/she the snitch? Seems likely.

I have served in SAC and know about the "two man policy" when you are talking about EWO (Emergency War Orders). Deadly force IS authorized! In fact, demanded.

This type of behavior/attitude of our current "guardians" is totally unacceptable. ("We guard you while you are asleep) Anyone remember that jingo?
Robrock
User ID: 67312
7/24/2008 11:05 PM
Re: Minot Air Force missile launch crew falls asleepQuote

Whatttt????

Nobody jumped on this???

"Four officers had completed the process of changing the codes for the system underground in the launch control center and had returned topside to the large living center, which looks much like a ranch house inside and includes six bedrooms, a large kitchen and dining area, gym and a security control center for security forces airmen, according to Air Force officials.

While waiting for permission to bring the device back to base, the three officers with the code component in their possession fell asleep. The fourth officer was not present."

WTF happened to the fourth officer???

Has he/she been found? questioned???

Did he/she let loose the gas???


Now I see it. thx!
 Quoting: RememberThis


Wow, this is bizzare. 4 officers, on duty, charged with maintaining nuclear launch codes and then changing them at the end of their shift, "happen to" forget that they leave the area with the actual device? What was the next shift going to use?
When I was just an E4 in the Army, we had to check out our comsec with the WO before our shift and turn it back in at the end of our shift, no matter what day of the week it was.
Today, on a nuclear sub, it takes 2 officers to unlock the safe to get the launch codes. And here is 4 Air Force officers with "the" device that changes the nuclear launch codes, that happen to forget they have it and go home? Or as some news reports say, they left the base and fell asleep at a "rest stop".
Oh, and as stated, one officer is unaccounted for.
WTF?
JimmyK
User ID: 397865
7/24/2008 11:06 PM
Re: Minot Air Force missile launch crew falls asleepQuote

Man! ya walk into a 7-11 and there is a camera. Ya gamble in Vegas and there are thousands of cameras all being watched.

But no one in in constant monitoring of guys locked in a Nuke facility?

Oh come on now.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 424156
7/24/2008 11:09 PM
Re: Minot Air Force missile launch crew falls asleepQuote

bsflag bsflag bsflag bsflag bsflag bsflag bsflag
Robrock
User ID: 67312
7/24/2008 11:10 PM
Re: Minot Air Force missile launch crew falls asleepQuote

Man! ya walk into a 7-11 and there is a camera. Ya gamble in Vegas and there are thousands of cameras all being watched.

But no one in in constant monitoring of guys locked in a Nuke facility?

Oh come on now.
 Quoting: JimmyK


Nice simple way of putting it.
No shit!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 123405
7/24/2008 11:12 PM
Re: Minot Air Force missile launch crew falls asleepQuote

I saw a tv new show about the missile launch crews in Russian and I can guarantee if that would have happened there they would have been before a firing squad.
Robrock
User ID: 67312
7/24/2008 11:16 PM
Re: Minot Air Force missile launch crew falls asleepQuote

yeah! Where IS that fourth airman???
 Quoting: Dread Pirate Roberts


The fourth officer is probably in protective custody for "blowing the whistle", and this is the spin that the Air Force is attempting.
There is no way in hell that the Air Force would put this story out..."oh by the way", type thing.
Hopefully, his/her protective custody is better than the one that some of the crew of the lost nuke B52 had.
ridgerunner
User ID: 454032
7/24/2008 11:28 PM
Re: Minot Air Force missile launch crew falls asleepQuote

If it were true it would never have made the news, let alone Fox.

Smells like a false flag in the works no?

Yep, does make one wonder...
Exercise DIABLO BRAVO 2008 (DB 08)

https://hseep.dhs.gov/pages/1001_Diabl.aspx

Exercise DIABLO BRAVO 2008 (DB 08) is a National Exercise Program Tier II, nuclear weapons incident exercise, sponsored by the Department of Energy (DOE)/National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA). The primary exercise activity will take place from 28 July - 1 August 2008 in Kitsap County, Washington, with secondary training audiences participating throughout the Nation.

DB08 will involve a comprehensive interagency response at the Federal, State, and local levels. DOE participants include the Accident Response Group (ARG), the Radiological Assistance Program (RAP), the Consequence Management Response Team (CMRT), the Aerial Measuring System, the Atmospheric Release Advisory Capability, the Emergency Management Team and the Nuclear Incident Team (NIT). Additional participants include multiple Federal headquarters elements at dispersed geographic locations, various Federal agency assets designated to respond to such an incident, select Departments and Agencies from the State of Washington, and the Kitsap County emergency response assets.

DIABLO BRAVO 08 is significant because it will be the first inter-agency U.S. nuclear weapons incident exercise to test the response activities to a terrorist attack on nuclear weapons; the first real-time deployment of response assets; the first exercise in which the weapons are in DOE custody under the National Response Framework (NRF).
 Quoting: ShowMe State of Mind



ya know...I don't even want to hear this...rr
JimmyK
User ID: 397865
7/24/2008 11:30 PM
Re: Minot Air Force missile launch crew falls asleepQuote

If it were true it would never have made the news, let alone Fox.

Smells like a false flag in the works no?

Yep, does make one wonder...
Exercise DIABLO BRAVO 2008 (DB 08)

https://hseep.dhs.gov/pages/1001_Diabl.aspx

Exercise DIABLO BRAVO 2008 (DB 08) is a National Exercise Program Tier II, nuclear weapons incident exercise, sponsored by the Department of Energy (DOE)/National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA). The primary exercise activity will take place from 28 July - 1 August 2008 in Kitsap County, Washington, with secondary training audiences participating throughout the Nation.

DB08 will involve a comprehensive interagency response at the Federal, State, and local levels. DOE participants include the Accident Response Group (ARG), the Radiological Assistance Program (RAP), the Consequence Management Response Team (CMRT), the Aerial Measuring System, the Atmospheric Release Advisory Capability, the Emergency Management Team and the Nuclear Incident Team (NIT). Additional participants include multiple Federal headquarters elements at dispersed geographic locations, various Federal agency assets designated to respond to such an incident, select Departments and Agencies from the State of Washington, and the Kitsap County emergency response assets.

DIABLO BRAVO 08 is significant because it will be the first inter-agency U.S. nuclear weapons incident exercise to test the response activities to a terrorist attack on nuclear weapons; the first real-time deployment of response assets; the first exercise in which the weapons are in DOE custody under the National Response Framework (NRF).




ya know...I don't even want to hear this...rr
 Quoting: ridgerunner 454032


Oh, that's what the lala is for.


LOL
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