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Anonymous Coward User ID: 472093 7/25/2008 1:59 AM Report abusive post | Poor in America
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****, misery does not love company NOR is hell cooler for the crowd.
If Americans are reduced to poverty, it is no less bitter because some third worlder is even worse.
A man in Bombay may, if made homeless, sleep in the street, albeit next to the cows. It is semi-tropical.
A man caught sleeping in Minnesota in the street may freeze to death. In New York City, he would be arrested for snoozing in the subway. New York City a decade ago removed seats from the Port Authority Bus Station to discourage bums. The upshot is that I, a man with a cane and bad legs, could not find a seat one time as I waited for a bus.
In the third world, there is grinding poverty, but oddly enough there is often less social restraint.
A man can hitch up a cart and donkey in Mexico.
In America, he needs a license for the car, and probably certificates for the donkey, should he resort to more primitive options.
Worse come to worse, you can put 50 people in a room in Malaysia.
In America, in many neighborhoods, such an option is not allowed. You cannot move in to live with your brother.
Loosing a house is severe ANYWHERE! Whether in Bombay, Djakarta or Los Angeles.
$4 a gallon is a hardship for people who have to drive 50 miles to work because there is no work close by and they cannot afford an apartment downtown. I was in such a position 24 years ago on a low salary having to drive 100 miles a day.
I am not saying Americans are not relatively rich, but the situation is not apples and oranges.
Depressions prior to the 1930s were relatively easy. People moved back to the farm with the folks. They ate food they grew. By the 1930s most Euros and Americans were urban. Oddly enough, the Depression of the 1930s did NOT affect rural countries. Peru was not battered.
But today, Europe, China, India, America, the USA, half of Latin America are all urban. Depressions now will nurt and hurt badly.
You are heartless indeed.
I suspect you are single.
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malu  User ID: 421073 7/25/2008 2:11 AM
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during the depression, 95% of the population lived on farms
and 5% lived in the cities, and still things were pretty bad
now, 5% of the population lives on farms/rural property
and 95% live in the cities, this is not going to be good |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 452634 7/25/2008 4:52 AM | | Re: Poor in America | Quote | THE POOR IN AMERICA ARE STRUGGLING MORE AND MORE EACH NEW YEAR. THEN THE PYSCH SETS IN WHICH CREATES NO AMBITION ETC. WE ARE DOOMED. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 452634 7/25/2008 4:57 AM | | Re: Poor in America | Quote | THE POOR IN AMERICA NEED HELP... SERIOUSLY PEOPLE. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 384893 7/25/2008 5:05 AM | | Re: Poor in America | Quote | Scrape up enough cash for gas to leave the city.
Rent a cheap trailer in a very rural area such as Kentucky for $300 a month. This is much better than homelessness.
It is better to make cheap wages in a nowhere town with a roof over your family's head, than wait around in a TENT CITY in a large city with a higher paying job.
Family security is priceless! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 471734 7/25/2008 5:55 AM | |
Rhys User ID: 472418 7/25/2008 6:14 AM | | Re: Poor in America | Quote |
good post, and sadly true
during the depression, 95% of the population lived on farms
and 5% lived in the cities, and still things were pretty bad
now, 5% of the population lives on farms/rural property
and 95% live in the cities, this is not going to be good Quoting: malu
Your figures are close enough.. and you are correct about the 'not going to be good' part. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 465333 7/25/2008 8:27 AM | | Re: Poor in America | Quote |
Depressions prior to the 1930s were relatively easy. People moved back to the farm with the folks. They ate food they grew. By the 1930s most Euros and Americans were urban. Oddly enough, the Depression of the 1930s did NOT affect rural countries. Peru was not battered. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 472093
Read again. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 473253 7/25/2008 8:39 AM | | Re: Poor in America | Quote | that's going to be everyone shortly |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 442273 7/25/2008 9:14 AM | | Re: Poor in America | Quote | In the US our poor are the most affluent of all the world's poor.
Most poor people in the US have refrigerators, automobiles, and color television with cable.
When people say how oppressed America's poor are they are showing how fucking stupid they really are.
The AVERAGE person around the world lives a much harder life than the average poor American. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 473266 7/25/2008 9:22 AM | | Re: Poor in America | Quote |
Scrape up enough cash for gas to leave the city.
Rent a cheap trailer in a very rural area such as Kentucky for $300 a month. This is much better than homelessness.
It is better to make cheap wages in a nowhere town with a roof over your family's head, than wait around in a TENT CITY in a large city with a higher paying job.
Family security is priceless! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 384893
The best place to go to learn how it's gonna be like is Cuba.
After a few generations of economic deprivations the Cubans are experts at making things last longer.
How many uses can you think of for a screwdriver? The concept of utility is taught in Cuba where everyone is a Phd. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 212087 7/25/2008 9:32 AM | | Re: Poor in America | Quote | My GOD you people don't know poor. Poor is living with your family in India between two train tracks in the dirt. Mere feet keep you apart from the trains laydened with more poor going back and forth looking for a better life. In America almost all poor live in a home with walls, a roof, heat, many airconditioning. They have a TV if not two, they have an automobile, Cell phones, access to Food banks, Medical attention, help with utilities, and then finally the all mighty Welfare check!!!!!!
While you America bashers are so busy kicking the crap out of this fine country you might pull your heads from your perverbial rearends and do some real comparing. In America you are only a phone call away from assistance. Where do you craddle to grave whiners keep coming from anyway?
In the great depression IF YOU ARE INFORMED you would realize poverty was rampant the dust bowl saw the top soil was relocated to Chicago. Read the Grapes of Wrath, understand people survived back in in soup lines, farmers were hard pressed to provide. People did starve to death, the only way out was work. Roosevelt started work programs it was hard work that brought this country to its feet damns were built, in the west miles and miles of rock fences were built rolling over hillsides. IN a mere decade this great country whos military was non existent, built up its man force, planes were mass produced, ships built in three days by Rose the Rivetor and her likeness, people gave all they had to fight a war against two equal evil forces. What a great country filled with strong patriotic hard working people who gave their all for success.
In a country were strength has been undermined giving way to girly men, whiners, weak kneed spoiled brats, there are still the strong, the willing to endure, the true Americans don't sit around and comiserate over how poor the poor are they get off their rearends and work two or three jobs, if it requires moving then they move but they don't sit and cry about how broke they are!!!! |
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Princess Bride User ID: 472843 7/25/2008 9:41 AM
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Comparisons to the third world really is about apples & oranges. We have standards here and we draw the line way before being reduced to that level.
If we see ourselves heading that way then something is wrong and things need to change. We are not a bunch of illiterates that don't know basic hygiene practices. There was an investment, which society made in each and everyone of us here that third world countries don't make in their people.
So get it straight. We are not whining.
We are having a discussion and resolving to change direction long before it gets to third world level. |
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Princess Bride User ID: 472843 7/25/2008 10:01 AM
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In a country were strength has been undermined giving way to girly men, whiners, weak kneed spoiled brats, there are still the strong, the willing to endure, the true Americans don't sit around and comiserate over how poor the poor are they get off their rearends and work two or three jobs, if it requires moving then they move but they don't sit and cry about how broke they are!!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 212087
I basically agree with that. I do have a few questions though. Why would have they have to move? Could it be that as great as America is that something is nonetheless wrong? Could it be that large swaths of our country are falling into dereliction and being left behind? Could it be that tens of thousands of once thriving communities are being devastated and abandoned?
If America is about freedom, then shouldn't there be true freedom where everyone can live in the community of their choice and have a real opportunity to thrive there? Must we all leave the homes of our fathers, who fought and died for this country, to live in our desolate and spiritually bankrupt cities in order to prosper financially?
No. Something has been very wrong here in the heart of America for decades now. It's a cancer eating us away. It's infected our cities to. There is no escape from it except to work hard and hold those accountable who have not loved America and looked out for the best interests in the entirety of America.
We have lost the concept of the common good and only look to make a buck by any means and at any cost. Money is supreme in America in this age and not the prosperity of it's people, who only want to live humble, honest, simple lives. You shouldn't have to be a heartless, greedy bastard to have the basics, you know.
Do you hear it? It's the whirlwind. It's almost here. |
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wizard User ID: 431774 7/25/2008 10:32 AM | | Re: Poor in America | Quote |
In the US our poor are the most affluent of all the world's poor.
Most poor people in the US have refrigerators, automobiles, and color television with cable.
When people say how oppressed America's poor are they are showing how fucking stupid they really are.
The AVERAGE person around the world lives a much harder life than the average poor American. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 442273
if you dont have a job how do you pay for it |
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Redheaded Stepchild  User ID: 461218 7/25/2008 10:48 AM
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In the US our poor are the most affluent of all the world's poor.
Most poor people in the US have refrigerators, automobiles, and color television with cable.
When people say how oppressed America's poor are they are showing how fucking stupid they really are.
The AVERAGE person around the world lives a much harder life than the average poor American. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 442273
And food? There's absolutely no starvation in the USA? You know this for a fact?
There's a school lunch program in the district where my eldest son lives with his family. The program has always halted for the summer break. This year, with the economy in decline and jobs exiting the scene, there are too many kids in the district whose only meal of the day is the lunch program, so the district extended the program into the entire summer.
Your generalizations about "most poor people in the US" are just that...generalizations. They show how "fucking stupid" your post is. "...They must find it difficult ... Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority..." G. Massey
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