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Survival Guns discussed
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malu 
User ID: 421073
7/26/2008 10:44 PM
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I use one of my 50BMGs for Elk hunting every year it's the best damn Elk gun I know of.
I bet that does knock them down. lmao
So how far is your average hike with a .50 BMG Starret?
My survival rig includes an HK91, a Marlin .22 in a rack on my back pack, and a USP45 in a tactical thigh holster.
If the shit hit the fan I probably would not be able to leave my six inch model 29 behind, I love that gun.
Howdy:
Yea it knocks them down! I use bullets that I've turned on a lathe.
We do PT at aprox. 11,000ft every day and I carry a two gun drag bag on my back a McMillan bolt and a custom 300 Win Mag the run is 5 miles then we go to the pool and play water polo or swim laps.
The rifle is an ancient McMillan bolt action 50BMG rebarreled many times.
I'm 60yo and the youngest of the team so I feel pretty good doing 5 miles I know it isn't much but hey I'm a retiree.
I have a couple of HK 91s and 93s German engineering is fantastic but heavy. Quoting: UD 429528
if you were going out for the real deal, would you still carry a drag bag with weapon(s)? would you also carry a third rifle at the ready?
that would seem like a lot of gear, including medical and nutrition, water, and of course a color tv
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.
"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking." |
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scimitar
I Just wanna know
User ID: 453961
7/26/2008 10:46 PM
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Hey Malu or Omega,
Has either of you ever tried one of these?
[link to www.gunblast.com]
One Truth.... many realities |
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3rd Day Rising
User ID: 291612
7/26/2008 10:49 PM | |
malu
User ID: 421073
7/26/2008 10:52 PM
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i have never shot one, i checked one out at a gun show, it's one of those, i have everything else so i should buy one of these too guns
i thought it would be fun to try some buckshot through one, i think wolf makes a 410 buckshot that is stacked in a single row
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.
"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking." |
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scimitar
I Just wanna know
User ID: 453961
7/26/2008 10:58 PM
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Honestly I've never been a gun person, but in light of current events it seems like a reasonable direction to take. I'm getting ready to purchase some Items although I can't seem to make up my mind between the MB590 or the Rem870. I've already settled on the SW40VE and I'm thinking about the Taurus Judge.
I really don't like to think about it....... however sometimes you have to stop thinking and act.
One Truth.... many realities |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 390936
7/26/2008 10:58 PM | | Re: Survival Guns discussed | Quote |
My out the door or SHTF guns are a glock 21 and a Rock River AR15/M4 w/ACOG
Wife gets the Yugo under folding AK or any of the other AR15s in the safe and a glock 17
I have about every glock ever made.. but i love the 21. Nothing says lovin like 14 rounds of .45 ACP heh
Also if we are bugging in we can arm the neighborhood with ARs and AKs.. I have quite a few and enough ammo to go with them.
Final line of defense is shotguns and 2 of my favorites.. the Russian RPK and RPD (belt fed) semi autos. Very nice guns and I love to take them out to the range and get looks from all the other people shooting.. lol
Yeah.. Im a gun geek collector type :) |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 390936
7/26/2008 11:00 PM | | Re: Survival Guns discussed | Quote |
Honestly I've never been a gun person, but in light of current events it seems like a reasonable direction to take. I'm getting ready to purchase some Items although I can't seem to make up my mind between the MB590 or the Rem870. I've already settled on the SW40VE and I'm thinking about the Taurus Judge.
I really don't like to think about it....... however sometimes you have to stop thinking and act. Quoting: scimitar
If you can, go for the Rem870, I own both the mossburg and the Remington and I prefer the rem870. Just shoots better, feels more sturdy and the action is MUCH smoother. |
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UD
User ID: 474058
7/26/2008 11:01 PM | | Re: Survival Guns discussed | Quote |
holy crap! that is more info than the two? years of posts i have been reading of you! may as well pull something out of the rack and a couple of crates of ammo :)
damn, a gun thread around here is like tossing bread on the beach, out of no where appears a flock of seagulls
just got home from work, read it as fast as i could before i hop in the shower and re read it, hope some gun nuts, errr, enthusiasts are still around
based on what i read, we will have a false flag very soon in Denver Quoting: malu
HAHAHA if you have the location spit it out I'll reply be E-Mail. Don't worry if you get it right we'll break the mini gun out and you can shoot until you're tired. BUT I think you would like some of the other weapons better.
HHHHMMMM I'm a seagull?
False flag:I grow food and shoot a false flag could happen and I'm not sure I would know unless somebody told me. Any body I don't know that shows up at the gate gets a polite GOOD BYE. |
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scimitar
I Just wanna know
User ID: 453961
7/26/2008 11:02 PM
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If you can, go for the Rem870, I own both the mossburg and the Remington and I prefer the rem870. Just shoots better, feels more sturdy and the action is MUCH smoother. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 390936
Thanks for the opinion........ My Son just bought the 870 and he felt the same.
One Truth.... many realities |
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malu
User ID: 421073
7/26/2008 11:05 PM
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holy crap! that is more info than the two? years of posts i have been reading of you! may as well pull something out of the rack and a couple of crates of ammo :)
damn, a gun thread around here is like tossing bread on the beach, out of no where appears a flock of seagulls
just got home from work, read it as fast as i could before i hop in the shower and re read it, hope some gun nuts, errr, enthusiasts are still around
based on what i read, we will have a false flag very soon in Denver
HAHAHA if you have the location spit it out I'll reply be E-Mail. Don't worry if you get it right we'll break the mini gun out and you can shoot until you're tired. BUT I think you would like some of the other weapons better.
HHHHMMMM I'm a seagull?
False flag:I grow food and shoot a false flag could happen and I'm not sure I would know unless somebody told me. Any body I don't know that shows up at the gate gets a polite GOOD BYE. Quoting: UD 474058
oh if i figure it out i won't post it here, i still have Digger's addy for email
by the false flag i mean something could be going down in denver during the convention, they have been amassing a huge amount of firepower and personnel , including some "futuristic" weapons, for controlling (corralling) people/protestors
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.
"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking." |
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malu
User ID: 421073
7/26/2008 11:07 PM
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If you can, go for the Rem870, I own both the mossburg and the Remington and I prefer the rem870. Just shoots better, feels more sturdy and the action is MUCH smoother.
Thanks for the opinion........ My Son just bought the 870 and he felt the same. Quoting: scimitar
and i love the 590 lol, just spend a lot of time working the action and it smooths out nicely
both are great guns for the money
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.
"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking." |
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UD
User ID: 470104
7/26/2008 11:30 PM | | Re: Survival Guns discussed | Quote |
if you were going out for the real deal, would you still carry a drag bag with weapon(s)? would you also carry a third rifle at the ready?
that would seem like a lot of gear, including medical and nutrition, water, and of course a color tv Quoting: malu
Are you talking at my age?
HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!
My kit in the day:
50 McMillan
Standard rifle 308 Remington based POS or Winchester
45 standard issue
38 air weight
machete
battle axe (VN era)
Ammo: 10 rounds 50
30 rounds 308
6 magazines 45
3 speed loaders 38
food, water, meds etc etc
NOW
55 Chevy bus filled to the hilt with food weapons etc.
Color TV I don't watch now but the bus does have satellite. |
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Omega
User ID: 368385
7/26/2008 11:31 PM | | Re: Survival Guns discussed | Quote |
Mkay man I was thinking knowing the agency may at some point be....useful....
Hey, I never got or missed the other hints!!! :>)
Off work, long drive home, take care.....
Sorry bro I didn't mean to come off as flippant the next chance I get I'll ask. I just don't go around weapons when drinking. The home brew is called Red October for a reason.
Be Safe!
OH THE HINTS: HHHHMMMMMM considering I was told by my spotter to STFU and I think my replies have been deleted (not sure) and I don't start many threads I don't know what to say?
West of Denver
10,953ft EL
Aprox. 25 miles to nearest town
1800 acres that used to be National Forrest
National Forrest road that's now private
(New one) Newly constructed gate that says WOOOOSH HILL. Quoting: UD 441575
Naw man you were not flippant at all, and I hear ya on guns and booze. Big no no,lol....
Thanks for the hints!!!!
I vacationed once in damn what was the name--oh, Estes Park long ago. Beautiful area.....
Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science.
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Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner.
Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide.
Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice. |
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Omega
User ID: 368385
7/26/2008 11:34 PM | | Re: Survival Guns discussed | Quote |
If I had to limit myself to one gun I would agree with this. The lowly .22 is probably the single most desirable. My little bolt action tube fed Marlin (which has a place on my back pack specially made for it) will keep every round inside a half inch at fifty yards when I do my part. Two five hundred round bricks in the pack take up little room and guarantee plenty of eats along the trail.
But I do like the comfortable sense of security the HK91 gives one. A little heavy but hell, I'm a big boy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 464984
Agreed and I have on of those Marlins, great little gun. Second from the top-I refinished it.....
Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science.
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Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner.
Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide.
Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice. |
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malu
User ID: 421073
7/26/2008 11:37 PM
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if you were going out for the real deal, would you still carry a drag bag with weapon(s)? would you also carry a third rifle at the ready?
that would seem like a lot of gear, including medical and nutrition, water, and of course a color tv
Are you talking at my age?
HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!
My kit in the day:
50 McMillan
Standard rifle 308 Remington based POS or Winchester
45 standard issue
38 air weight
machete
battle axe (VN era)
Ammo: 10 rounds 50
30 rounds 308
6 magazines 45
3 speed loaders 38
food, water, meds etc etc
NOW
55 Chevy bus filled to the hilt with food weapons etc.
Color TV I don't watch now but the bus does have satellite. Quoting: UD 470104
looks like a very nice list ;) i was surprised at the inventory of ammo
just curios , if a spotter was part of the team, did he carry similar rifles, or select fire battle rifle?
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.
"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking." |
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Evil Twin 
Senior Forum Moderator
User ID: 474075
7/26/2008 11:55 PM
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Holy crap. you guys are still at it?! lol |
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malu
User ID: 421073
7/26/2008 11:58 PM
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Holy crap. you guys are still at it?! lol Quoting: Evil Twin
i think we would all rather be shooting ;)
it is definitely worth the time to read through everything on this post
UD put out some more hints
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.
"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking." |
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UD
User ID: 307728
7/26/2008 11:59 PM | | Re: Survival Guns discussed | Quote |
looks like a very nice list ;) i was surprised at the inventory of ammo
just curios , if a spotter was part of the team, did he carry similar rifles, or select fire battle rifle? Quoting: malu
Digger has been my spotter for going on 40 years.
Ammo:in later years I also carried the 12 gauge pistol with ammo.
Digger carried an M16 with ammo plus a Remington POS with ammo and all the rest.
We are like a couple except we will kick the crap out of each other during PT, remember not to log ago he knocked out my front teeth! |
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malu
User ID: 421073
7/27/2008 12:02 AM
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looks like a very nice list ;) i was surprised at the inventory of ammo
just curios , if a spotter was part of the team, did he carry similar rifles, or select fire battle rifle?
Digger has been my spotter for going on 40 years.
Ammo:in later years I also carried the 12 gauge pistol with ammo.
Digger carried an M16 with ammo plus a Remington POS with ammo and all the rest.
We are like a couple except we will kick the crap out of each other during PT, remember not to log ago he knocked out my front teeth! Quoting: UD 307728
lol, yeah i remember,, nice guy!
well i am gearing Digger style
would you rate a savage tactical over a rem 700 , out of the box?
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.
"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking." |
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UD
User ID: 307728
7/27/2008 12:06 AM | | Re: Survival Guns discussed | Quote |
Holy crap. you guys are still at it?! lol Quoting: Evil Twin
FUCK OFF BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I'm not sure you would know! We all had the electric blue IVs after we got back from Africa and weird as it seems we haven't aged much since then. |
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Evil Twin
Senior Forum Moderator
User ID: 474075
7/27/2008 12:11 AM
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i think we would all rather be shooting ;)
it is definitely worth the time to read through everything on this post
UD put out some more hints Quoting: malu
Yep, I saw the hints!
I've never seriously looked for UD before, but from what he's said in this thread, and a couple other hints from the past, I've got it narrowed down to 2 likely spots. I do have a small advantage, having lived out there real close to where he's at for 13 years. ;) |
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UD
User ID: 149022
7/27/2008 12:12 AM | | Re: Survival Guns discussed | Quote |
lol, yeah i remember,, nice guy!
well i am gearing Digger style
would you rate a savage tactical over a rem 700 , out of the box? Quoting: malu
Savage: The floating bolt head should make it more accurate out of the box. They have some very nice what I would call semi customs for a good price. |
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Beingsouthern
Forum Moderator
User ID: 113248
7/27/2008 12:13 AM
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A tall blonde might be tip toein and hiding behind that guy malu after he pulls up at UD's gate...
Don't shoot me, k?
;) |
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Evil Twin
Senior Forum Moderator
User ID: 474075
7/27/2008 12:14 AM
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Holy crap. you guys are still at it?! lol
FUCK OFF BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I'm not sure you would know! We all had the electric blue IVs after we got back from Africa and weird as it seems we haven't aged much since then. Quoting: UD 307728
LMAO!!
Hey, it's that fresh mountain air, and luggin 80 lb packs around at 11,000' that's keeping you young.
I read what you said about the Feds expecting trouble at the DNC....I hope they're wrong! |
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malu
User ID: 421073
7/27/2008 12:18 AM
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i think we would all rather be shooting ;)
it is definitely worth the time to read through everything on this post
UD put out some more hints
Yep, I saw the hints!
I've never seriously looked for UD before, but from what he's said in this thread, and a couple other hints from the past, I've got it narrowed down to 2 likely spots. I do have a small advantage, having lived out there real close to where he's at for 13 years. ;) Quoting: Evil Twin
well just swing by and pick me up on your way out there
i can live with that :)
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.
"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking." |
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malu
User ID: 421073
7/27/2008 12:19 AM
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oh yeah, what the heck is this blue IV?
umm, you go first BS
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.
"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking." |
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UD
User ID: 379852
7/27/2008 12:23 AM | | Re: Survival Guns discussed | Quote |
A tall blonde might be tip toein and hiding behind that guy malu after he pulls up at UD's gate...
Don't shoot me, k?
;) Quoting: Beingsouthern
Sweet Heart maybe you should step out first to save HIM! HAHAHAHAHAHAH I love it we are friendly people!
AND at the gate is a speaker just address us with your handle NP. There's only about 12 miles between you and the house. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 474088
7/27/2008 12:28 AM | | Re: Survival Guns discussed | Quote |
Stay away from the pump shotguns. I know the people stuck in the "good ol days" will cry over that one, but They rattle and they are simply old technology. The beloved "chlachuck" sound people brag about is just as true for any bolt/slide being cycled. Get an autoloader. 1100 or a beretta at best. Load up on slugs, 00, and bird shot and you will be prepared for hunting and protection.
And for the 10/22 guys- great for squirls, but bad for defense. Sure, if you were sniping and able to hit everything in the face. But come on 
With that said, the best survival gun is having more than one (one for each type of job).
Get an AK or SKS (and there are no stamped receivers on the SKS, at least those sold in the US). These are good $150 - $400 battle rifles that will not be available forever. 7.62 is far the cheapest going right now, and mags and such are cheap as well. Besides, all of the "freedom fighters" in the Middle East, Africa, China, Russia, and just about every country/continent other than the US could not be wrong.
I envy the guys with the ARs, not all of us have $1000s to spend. Nice though, wish I had one.
The Glock guy is righ on. Out of all of the firearms I own, and have ever owned, my G21 is the best. In fact it is the only gun I have ever considered for self defense. The rest are all SHTF safe queens. |
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UD
User ID: 379852
7/27/2008 12:32 AM | | Re: Survival Guns discussed | Quote |
oh yeah, what the heck is this blue IV?
umm, you go first BS Quoting: malu
We were in Malabo Equatorial Guinea I got malaria the "cure" they gave me/us was an electric blue IV. I came back with level 3 malaria and in one day of the stuff I was doing good not perfect but feeling well. |
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Evil Twin
Senior Forum Moderator
User ID: 474075
7/27/2008 12:34 AM
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My main problem with auto shotguns is: for the price, I can buy 2 pump guns, and have a spare. Plus, no cycling issues with cheap ammo. |
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