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| Evil Twin  
Senior Forum Moderator
User ID: 476367
7/31/2008 12:26 AM
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I hear ya man, I wish I could afford an AR10 but don't have the scratch right now. Now unless you wanna buy that Les Paul I have,lol...
I am going to stick with that AR15 and beef it up ,one of the main reasons is I think we may just almost be outta time brother....
Lemme know what ya get.... Quoting: Omega
I would love that Les Paul, if I had the money!
I dumped over a grand in my truck in the last week, getting it freshened up.
I've got some free time tomorrow, and I'm gonna go peruse the gunshops in the area, see what they have.
It's a tough decision. I have tons of spare parts and ammo for what I already have, but I'd be starting from scratch with an AR. Not sure if I want to spend the time on buying and testing mags and sights and working up new loads and all that.
I should really sell my Mustang, by a cheap motorcycle, and spend the rest on a new rifle, lol. |
| Evil Twin
Senior Forum Moderator
User ID: 476367
7/31/2008 12:28 AM
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BTW I am shopping for a .177 cal pellet gun under 300 bucks so I can practice daily in my backyard. It's gotta be very accurate. I am looking at some Gamo's and Beeman's. Anyone got a specific model in mind?
If you can find a Power Line 881 or one of it's siblings, you'll be pleased and it won't break the bank.
Thanks man, I already settled on and bought a RWS Diana Model 34. I thought it would be here tomorrow, but now Fed Ex says Friday and I have to work Friday and someone has to sign for it, rat bastards...
So I won't be around to sign for it till next Tuesday....
I am hurting badly over here, someone throw me a bone, lol..... Quoting: Omega
Ouch! |
| Omega
User ID: 363643
7/31/2008 12:38 AM | | Re: Survival Guns discussed | Quote |
I hear ya man, I wish I could afford an AR10 but don't have the scratch right now. Now unless you wanna buy that Les Paul I have,lol...
I am going to stick with that AR15 and beef it up ,one of the main reasons is I think we may just almost be outta time brother....
Lemme know what ya get....
I would love that Les Paul, if I had the money!
I dumped over a grand in my truck in the last week, getting it freshened up.
I've got some free time tomorrow, and I'm gonna go peruse the gunshops in the area, see what they have.
It's a tough decision. I have tons of spare parts and ammo for what I already have, but I'd be starting from scratch with an AR. Not sure if I want to spend the time on buying and testing mags and sights and working up new loads and all that.
I should really sell my Mustang, by a cheap motorcycle, and spend the rest on a new rifle, lol. Quoting: Evil Twin
Motorcycles rule man, go for it!!! I rode today, good for the soul brother....
Good luck at the gunshops!!!
I cleaned out my back room, well almost finished, moved a bunch of junk into the garage. Now I am going to convert the room into a gun room, and get into reloading...will probably put that Les Paul and some other guitars up for sale on craigslist.
Time to get real.
Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science.
_____________________________________
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner.
Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide.
Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice. |
| Evil Twin
Senior Forum Moderator
User ID: 476367
7/31/2008 12:46 AM
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Motorcycles rule man, go for it!!! I rode today, good for the soul brother....
Good luck at the gunshops!!!
I cleaned out my back room, well almost finished, moved a bunch of junk into the garage. Now I am going to convert the room into a gun room, and get into reloading...will probably put that Les Paul and some other guitars up for sale on craigslist.
Time to get real.
Nice!
Don't turn up your nose at the Lee presses and dies, they work just fine!
The low price turns a lot of people off, but I have loaded many thousands of rounds with mine. You can get set up with a single stage press and all the other tools you need (minus dies) for not much more than $100. Dies will run from $20-$35 per caliber.
I've got lots of good recipes for .45 and .308 too, plus a bunch of other calibers. |
| Omega
User ID: 363643
7/31/2008 12:50 AM | | Re: Survival Guns discussed | Quote |
Motorcycles rule man, go for it!!! I rode today, good for the soul brother....
Good luck at the gunshops!!!
I cleaned out my back room, well almost finished, moved a bunch of junk into the garage. Now I am going to convert the room into a gun room, and get into reloading...will probably put that Les Paul and some other guitars up for sale on craigslist.
Time to get real.
Nice!
Don't turn up your nose at the Lee presses and dies, they work just fine!
The low price turns a lot of people off, but I have loaded many thousands of rounds with mine. You can get set up with a single stage press and all the other tools you need (minus dies) for not much more than $100. Dies will run from $20-$35 per caliber.
I've got lots of good recipes for .45 and .308 too, plus a bunch of other calibers.
You read my mind as you have mentioned Lee products before, on the phone I think, , plus your experience. I'll hit ya up for advice brother and throw a bottle of scotch your way for the trouble....
Will be a few weeks before I get my shit together and obtain the scratch bro....
Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science.
_____________________________________
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner.
Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide.
Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice. |
| Evil Twin
Senior Forum Moderator
User ID: 476367
7/31/2008 1:01 AM
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You read my mind as you have mentioned Lee products before, on the phone I think, , plus your experience. I'll hit ya up for advice brother and throw a bottle of scotch your way for the trouble....
Will be a few weeks before I get my shit together and obtain the scratch bro.... Quoting: Omega
Haha, that's right! We did shoot the breeze one night about reloading...and many other things, lol!
No scotch necessary, anything I can do to help, let me know! Lester seems to be a fount of knowledge too!
Give me a call when you're ready to take the plunge, I always enjoy talkin to ya! |
| Omega
User ID: 363643
7/31/2008 1:37 AM | | Re: Survival Guns discussed | Quote |
You read my mind as you have mentioned Lee products before, on the phone I think, , plus your experience. I'll hit ya up for advice brother and throw a bottle of scotch your way for the trouble....
Will be a few weeks before I get my shit together and obtain the scratch bro....
Haha, that's right! We did shoot the breeze one night about reloading...and many other things, lol!
No scotch necessary, anything I can do to help, let me know! Lester seems to be a fount of knowledge too!
Give me a call when you're ready to take the plunge, I always enjoy talkin to ya! Quoting: Evil Twin
Thanks man, I appreciate it, will do!!! I am out for the evening, er, maybe over at ar15.com freaking out at what I have been missing all these years....
Man there are 2700 logged on over there right now!!!
Me thinks them government boys are going to have a problem if TSHTF,lmao....
Take it easy bro, powder dry, whisky handy, all that good stuff.....
Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science.
_____________________________________
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner.
Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide.
Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice. |
| Lester
User ID: 476021
7/31/2008 3:17 AM | | Re: Survival Guns discussed | Quote |
E Twin: The DPMS AR-10s are excellent rifles. Mainly what GA Precision builds these days. The basic rifle might still be under $1000. The short barreled carbines are handy and accurate, 20" barrel is fine for all-around use. The DPMS take FN/FAL magazines so should be cheap and available. DPMS parts should be available pretty cheap. Less than any M1a. AR15.com has a AR-10 section on their equipment exchange, you might find a guy locally who would do some trading???
Omega,
Here is what I have experience with for carry handle scope mount:
Smith enterprises rail is very good.
The 1-4x type straight objective 1" scopes work best on a carryhandle rail and the lower you can mount them, the better. I like Weaver rings because they make an extra low size and it works.
I tried the Hensoldt H-K scope, a Fero z24 made in 87. Nice scope, but you have to use a Stanag slotted carryhandle mount, like the ARMS #2; althought the smith might be slotted for stanag. Don't need rings for stanag, scope has posts tapped for screws and mounts to base. Great scope as long as you don't need diopter correction. I like a crisp reticle so sold the scope.
I got a Trijicon Reflex on ebay w/carry handle mount for $200. It was used, but only 18mos old.
You might look for an A-4 barreled upper on AR15.com in the used section. If you have the small pin upper, you don't have to stay with Colt. If you have large pin, Colt is your Uncle. You won't need a new bolt or carrier unless yours is shot out. I'm guessing that is not the case. Being able to mount any of your other scopes might be a great move for you. Of course, you might find a used complete rifle fairly cheap and then sell yours for $1100 or $1200 with no problem.
I almost forgot, I did have a Colt 4x scope for the carryhandle and it was pretty decent just was bigger than I liked being much larger than the Leupold or other 1-4x scopes I've used. Might find one for under $200.
Lester |
| Prof-Rabbit (nli)
User ID: 148352
7/31/2008 4:45 AM | | Re: Survival Guns discussed | Quote |
BTW I am shopping for a .177 cal pellet gun under 300 bucks so I can practice daily in my backyard. It's gotta be very accurate. I am looking at some Gamo's and Beeman's. Anyone got a specific model in mind?
If you can find a Power Line 881 or one of it's siblings, you'll be pleased and it won't break the bank.
Thanks man, I already settled on and bought a RWS Diana Model 34. I thought it would be here tomorrow, but now Fed Ex says Friday and I have to work Friday and someone has to sign for it, rat bastards...
So I won't be around to sign for it till next Tuesday....
I am hurting badly over here, someone throw me a bone, lol..... Quoting: Omega
Theoben Evolution
Only air rifle that can be tuned to throw a .22 at 1000fps
[link to www.airguns.net] |
| Prof_Rabbit
User ID: 148352
7/31/2008 5:38 AM | | Re: Survival Guns discussed | Quote |
Oops, Big Air Rifles
[link to www.quackenbushairguns.com]
The Exile has a .308 bore, pre-charge 3000 p.s.i. rifle. .308 is the standard 30 cal., not an oddball size. It uses commercially made 30 M-1 Carbine cast lead, round nose bullets. They are available from bullet casters in lots of 500 for $16. to $18.50, plus shipping. Or you can buy a ready made bullet mold for $16. to $18. from Lee Precision, or from others (RCBS, Lyman, SECO, etc.) for somewhat more money. The bullets for this rifle are 115 or 130 grains at over 850 f.p.s. which will be 200 ft.-lbs. This rifle was made for longer range shooting such as fox, coyotes, groundhogs, etc., where you don't need as much power as the .50 but you need more range. The higher velocity and aerodynamic shape of the bullet gives a flatter trajectory, so you don't have to use as much hold over at longer ranges.
"Anger is a wind that blows out the lamp of your mind" |
| Omega
User ID: 357757
7/31/2008 8:55 AM | | Re: Survival Guns discussed | Quote |
Oops, Big Air Rifles
[ link to www.quackenbushairguns.com]
The Exile has a .308 bore, pre-charge 3000 p.s.i. rifle. .308 is the standard 30 cal., not an oddball size. It uses commercially made 30 M-1 Carbine cast lead, round nose bullets. They are available from bullet casters in lots of 500 for $16. to $18.50, plus shipping. Or you can buy a ready made bullet mold for $16. to $18. from Lee Precision, or from others (RCBS, Lyman, SECO, etc.) for somewhat more money. The bullets for this rifle are 115 or 130 grains at over 850 f.p.s. which will be 200 ft.-lbs. This rifle was made for longer range shooting such as fox, coyotes, groundhogs, etc., where you don't need as much power as the .50 but you need more range. The higher velocity and aerodynamic shape of the bullet gives a flatter trajectory, so you don't have to use as much hold over at longer ranges.
Whoa!!!!Dudes alsos got .475 airgun he offers, jeeeze!!!
BTW liked your input on this thread Prof. Rabbit, always good to see real shooters hang on GLP....
Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science.
_____________________________________
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner.
Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide.
Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 476599
7/31/2008 11:06 AM | | Re: Survival Guns discussed | Quote |
Holsters, slings, etc...
Probably no accessory will make/break a handgun's effectiveness and utility value more than a holster. Unless you are into the Mexican-carry, which is stuffing an automatic under your belt; you need a holster, or several.
Leather or corduran nylon, maybe some of the hard plastic polymer materials but what matters is good fit, easy release when pulled, and comfort so you can wear with ease. Your belt may have a lot to do with all of the above. If you go with a paddle retention holster you need a stiff and wide belt. Talking for full-size and non-airweight guns here. Same way with carrying comfort and retention. You sure don't need a holster that moves around on you or prints its presence under a shirt or jacket.
What works best? JMHO, but a general purpose holster that will hold the 1911 auto canted forward for kidney carry on your right side, and will double as a cross draw when worn over your left pants pocket when driving or seated is a Good Thing. Another Good Thing is a shoulder rig. Horizontal shoulder rig is pretty concealable, even for the 5" regular slide 1911s. You probably want a vertical if you have some compensator or longslide model, if those are even still produced.
Milt Sparks is pretty much the defacto standard of excellence, Bianchi and Galco among others also right up there. Find a number of decent off the rack holsters in your gunshop or sports store, but probably will have to order one to get what you want. Too many styles, too many variations for barrel length and options for a dealer to carry them all. Plus, those for popular pieces will likely be sold out anyway. Do you research and order your custom and wait, or try the internet/mail-order wholesalers.
For non-concealment, general wear, it is hard to beat the military nylon holster with flap, as it is durable and reversible. The basic Bianchi cyclone is also very durable and with safety thong that goes between hammer and firing pin, very safe to carry Cocked & Locked, Condition 1.
The Yanqi Slid belt holster is also an interesting holstering device. Slides onto your belt and the pistol rides in its minimal sheathing, light weight and versatile along with being fairly inexpensive. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 476599
7/31/2008 12:04 PM | | Re: Survival Guns discussed | Quote |
Accessories for Revolvers:
Best use for the revolver is as a hideout Defensive weapon, like the J-frame Smith & Wessons, or as full-power Working Gun. Aside from the 4" .44mag N frame which is about the most versatile handgun you can own, when we are talking Workding Handgun a shoulder holster or chest scabbard rig is the best way to carry.
The J-frame works well in ankle-carry holsters; or so I am told. I have a nylon generic holster for mine, but really these guns are meant to be carried in your pocket. They are pocket pistols for sure, although if you want a Milt Sparks concealment rig; why not? Yet, since a J-fram will fit very easily in a back pocket of your Levis or front pocket of your khakis and will not be a primary defensive piece, I will leave you on your own here.
The 4" S&W magnum is fairly hefty in terms of weight, but very manageable on a belt for all day round wear. Probably not your choice for quickdraw defense needs, but if your spidey sense is tingling, you'll have it in your hand anyway. Nice to have an Uncle Mikes twin speedloader pouch also on your belt; and your belt better be a heavy duty affair to hold the 40oz N frame comfortably, so whats another half pound for your extra 12 rds anyway???
The real heavy working handguns are going to have 7.5" barrels on up to the 14" Contender jobs. If you want to tote that single shot .45-70 around, the chest rig makes the most sense, especially if scoped, although there are scabbard holsters you can wear on a belt, they ought to be rigged Sam Browne style with a diagonal strap on the belt also.
For non-scoped revolvers the Uncle Mikes shoulder rigs are very decent. The Bianchi shoulder rig for long barrel revolvers is pretty much passe and expensive. Leather seems to weigh and cost too much, but maybe you just like leather? The Bagmeister is a pretty decent chest scabbard holster. There is an Alaska-something rig that is also highly regarded. Uncle Mikes seems to have most of the options. With a bit of imagination you might improve on some of Mikes features. I have replaced some of the straps on mine with heavier web material, maybe you can add some extra fastening points or some velcro to fasten your speedloader carriers to you holster? Not like you want a buscadero belt full of 50 .454 rounds weighing you down, but a double speed-loader carrier isn't too much weight.
Definitely you want to consider grips for your Revolvers. S&W magna grips are very decent for concealment and fast access, especially the slim ones on J-frames. For concealment they are nice as are the tiny Uncle Mikes or Pachmayr neoprene grips that don't extend below the frame.
For best accuracy in a Working handgun you need grips that align your trigger finger to give straight-pull through on the trigger; IF you shoot double action. Pachmayr, Hogue and regular S&W grips don't really do this. For best precision double action shooting, you need a Custom grip that puts more mass between the backstrap of the frame and possibly finger grooves. I found a set of Mustang grips for my K frame at a pawnshop recently, and WOW they really make a difference. For the RealDeal, you want a stockmaker that will take a tracing of your hand and make you a custom fitted set of handgun stocks.
All that said, I haven't spent $100+ on a set of grips. I like the Ruger Super Redhawk standard grips, they are very comfortable with strong handloads in .454 Casull. I have yet to find a decent grip for shooting .44mag factory loads in a 4" N frame. Am trying Hogue, after trying Pachmayr and the various S&W grips. I like the Magna grip for the N frame, but would use it only with mid-power handloads.
For auto pistols, I favor the wooden Colt checekered style as opposed to smooth panels. I have used the Pachmayr neoprene grips and they are quite good. Like the Hogue w/finger grooves. For .22lr the Pachmayr is an improvement over the Ruger MkII plastic panel. Try a real set of target grips on the MKII target and see your results climb.
Ebay is a good source for grips. |
| canislatrans
User ID: 429722
7/31/2008 12:21 PM
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I sold one of my cars, now I'm going to pick up a 30-06 and some ammunition to hold me for a while. :)
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music. |
| Enigma
User ID: 70637
7/31/2008 12:26 PM
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two things on my list...
an theoban airgun...
and another .22 type pistol/rifle.
I'm thinking a Browning BuckMark pistol with scop pr maybe a Ruger.
What pistol also has the "options" of adding a stock? like an old broom handled mauser with the add on stock?
I'm looking for accurate, scoped and pistol.
enigma...
"knowing and not DOING, is like NOT KNOWING at all" |
| Evil Twin
Senior Forum Moderator
User ID: 476613
7/31/2008 12:32 PM
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I believe a pistol with a shoulder stock would need a 16" barrel to be legal without a short barreled rifle tax stamp. |
| Omega
User ID: 357757
7/31/2008 12:33 PM | | Re: Survival Guns discussed | Quote |
E Twin: The DPMS AR-10s are excellent rifles. Mainly what GA Precision builds these days. The basic rifle might still be under $1000. The short barreled carbines are handy and accurate, 20" barrel is fine for all-around use. The DPMS take FN/FAL magazines so should be cheap and available. DPMS parts should be available pretty cheap. Less than any M1a. AR15.com has a AR-10 section on their equipment exchange, you might find a guy locally who would do some trading???
Omega,
Here is what I have experience with for carry handle scope mount:
Smith enterprises rail is very good.
The 1-4x type straight objective 1" scopes work best on a carryhandle rail and the lower you can mount them, the better. I like Weaver rings because they make an extra low size and it works.
I tried the Hensoldt H-K scope, a Fero z24 made in 87. Nice scope, but you have to use a Stanag slotted carryhandle mount, like the ARMS #2; althought the smith might be slotted for stanag. Don't need rings for stanag, scope has posts tapped for screws and mounts to base. Great scope as long as you don't need diopter correction. I like a crisp reticle so sold the scope.
I got a Trijicon Reflex on ebay w/carry handle mount for $200. It was used, but only 18mos old.
You might look for an A-4 barreled upper on AR15.com in the used section. If you have the small pin upper, you don't have to stay with Colt. If you have large pin, Colt is your Uncle. You won't need a new bolt or carrier unless yours is shot out. I'm guessing that is not the case. Being able to mount any of your other scopes might be a great move for you. Of course, you might find a used complete rifle fairly cheap and then sell yours for $1100 or $1200 with no problem.
I almost forgot, I did have a Colt 4x scope for the carryhandle and it was pretty decent just was bigger than I liked being much larger than the Leupold or other 1-4x scopes I've used. Might find one for under $200.
Lester Quoting: Lester
Thanks man, I really appreciate the info. Funny you mentioned the Colt Scope - I checked last night and there is one on ebay right now supposedly in great condition.
Am also considering a Burris Fastfire Red dot. And a few others....
Your info on this thread has been invaluable-thanks for spending all the time Lester. I copied it all into a text doc for future use.....
Evil Twin is gonna provide some tech assistance on reloading as I am looking at a Lee reloading press and he has one.....
Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science.
_____________________________________
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner.
Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide.
Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 433259
7/31/2008 12:34 PM | | Re: Survival Guns discussed | Quote |
two things on my list...
an theoban airgun...
and another .22 type pistol/rifle.
I'm thinking a Browning BuckMark pistol with scop pr maybe a Ruger.
What pistol also has the "options" of adding a stock? like an old broom handled mauser with the add on stock?
I'm looking for accurate, scoped and pistol.
enigma... Quoting: Enigma
I've been wondering about this beretta NEO 22 plinker handgun they were allegedly going to release a carbine kit for. anyone have any experience with this? sounds like a nice system, in theory |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 148352
7/31/2008 12:56 PM | | Re: Survival Guns discussed | Quote |
Oops, Big Air Rifles
[ link to www.quackenbushairguns.com]
Whoa!!!!Dudes alsos got .475 airgun he offers, jeeeze!!!
BTW liked your input on this thread Prof. Rabbit, always good to see real shooters hang on GLP....
40 something years, reflexes and sight are not what they used to be but I can hold my own. tens of thousands of rounds and I reloaded most of my ammo.
Couple of things that will make life easier, Lee has a hand held priming tool the Auto Prime, cheap but will make priming your brass a breeze.
The little Lee turret press is great for pistol and smaller rifle rounds.
A beam scale if your working up loads, Lee make one but I personally don't like the action or the design, I have a Lyman and an RCBS, I don't like digital scales but they are out there.
A case cleaner (very easy to make)
Important, a place to reload, a solid bench, good lighting, safe storage for powder and primers. |
| Underground_Dude
User ID: 476653
7/31/2008 1:04 PM | | Re: Survival Guns discussed | Quote |
GUNS ARE EVIL THEY SCARE ME! |
| Omega
User ID: 357757
7/31/2008 1:06 PM | | Re: Survival Guns discussed | Quote |
two things on my list...
an theoban airgun...
and another .22 type pistol/rifle.
I'm thinking a Browning BuckMark pistol with scop pr maybe a Ruger.
What pistol also has the "options" of adding a stock? like an old broom handled mauser with the add on stock?
I'm looking for accurate, scoped and pistol.
enigma... Quoting: Enigma
I have a Browning Buckmark bro, bull barrel, here is a pict. Please excuse the redneck front porch,lol..
Very accurate-aftermarket stocks??? Dunno, never looked...
Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science.
_____________________________________
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner.
Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide.
Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice. |
| Omega
User ID: 357757
7/31/2008 1:06 PM | | Re: Survival Guns discussed | Quote |
GUNS ARE EVIL THEY SCARE ME! Quoting: Underground_Dude 476653
Lol...look...it's dude!!!
Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science.
_____________________________________
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner.
Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide.
Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice. |
| Prof_Rabbit
User ID: 148352
7/31/2008 1:07 PM | | Re: Survival Guns discussed | Quote |
Timed out again...
Are you handy with wood and a drill press? get some 1/2" ply offcuts, about 6" x 4" measure the base of your pistol cartridges, eg. 15/32 is about right for .45 ACP, drill rows of holes so the cartridges fit neatly staggered between rows so you can pick them up easily.
Makes filling, visual checks etc. much easier.
"Anger is a wind that blows out the lamp of your mind" |
| Omega
User ID: 357757
7/31/2008 1:10 PM | | Re: Survival Guns discussed | Quote |
Oops, Big Air Rifles
[ link to www.quackenbushairguns.com]
Whoa!!!!Dudes alsos got .475 airgun he offers, jeeeze!!!
BTW liked your input on this thread Prof. Rabbit, always good to see real shooters hang on GLP....
40 something years, reflexes and sight are not what they used to be but I can hold my own. tens of thousands of rounds and I reloaded most of my ammo.
Couple of things that will make life easier, Lee has a hand held priming tool the Auto Prime, cheap but will make priming your brass a breeze.
The little Lee turret press is great for pistol and smaller rifle rounds.
A beam scale if your working up loads, Lee make one but I personally don't like the action or the design, I have a Lyman and an RCBS, I don't like digital scales but they are out there.
A case cleaner (very easy to make)
Important, a place to reload, a solid bench, good lighting, safe storage for powder and primers.
Thanks for the advice, I do have a room dedicated, a bench, lighting, etc, just need to get into it....
Gotta ditch a few rare guitars first...
Hey Enigma, you are a player-you interested?? I gotta 1974 Gibson Les Paul Signature Hollowbody Goldtop...uber rare....
Plays like a dream-refretted by Erlewine (spelling).
Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science.
_____________________________________
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner.
Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide.
Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice. |
| Omega
User ID: 357757
7/31/2008 1:11 PM | | Re: Survival Guns discussed | Quote |
Timed out again...
Are you handy with wood and a drill press? get some 1/2" ply offcuts, about 6" x 4" measure the base of your pistol cartridges, eg. 15/32 is about right for .45 ACP, drill rows of holes so the cartridges fit neatly staggered between rows so you can pick them up easily.
Makes filling, visual checks etc. much easier. Quoting: Prof_Rabbit
There is an idea-adding to my word document saving this thread...
Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science.
_____________________________________
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner.
Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide.
Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice. |
| Evil Twin
Senior Forum Moderator
User ID: 476649
7/31/2008 1:16 PM
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I use the plastic trays from boxes of .45 acp ammo for loading blocks for all my handgun ammo.
I did the block of wood with holes trick for larger rifle cartridges. |
| Prof_Rabbit
User ID: 148352
7/31/2008 1:18 PM | | Re: Survival Guns discussed | Quote |
two things on my list...
an theoban airgun...
and another .22 type pistol/rifle.
I'm thinking a Browning BuckMark pistol with scop pr maybe a Ruger.
What pistol also has the "options" of adding a stock? like an old broom handled mauser with the add on stock?
I'm looking for accurate, scoped and pistol.
enigma...
I have a Browning Buckmark bro, bull barrel, here is a pict. Please excuse the redneck front porch,lol..
Very accurate-aftermarket stocks??? Dunno, never looked...
Thousands of rounds and still keeps going.. (quite a few rabbits too)
[link to www.tradersguns.com]
apologies for nicking images from the web, phone camera pics are poor.
"Anger is a wind that blows out the lamp of your mind" |
| Underground_Dude
User ID: 471384
7/31/2008 1:27 PM | | Re: Survival Guns discussed | Quote |
I need to get a gun which one should I buy?
Should it be a rifle a pistol or a shotgun?
You see I have this mouse in the house and I need to get rid of it. And I don't want to you one of those yucky traps! |
| Prof_Rabbit
User ID: 148352
7/31/2008 1:30 PM | | Re: Survival Guns discussed | Quote |
I use the plastic trays from boxes of .45 acp ammo for loading blocks for all my handgun ammo.
I did the block of wood with holes trick for larger rifle cartridges. Quoting: Evil Twin
I have a friend with better machinery than mine, so I have a stack of pistol blocks on the left and rifle on the right, same blocks for 20 years.
"Must haves" powder funnel or three (or four), something to add (or take away) very small amounts of powder to your scales, you can buy a "trickler" or use a tiny spoon, note plastic spoons attract static and become a nuisance around powder.
"Anger is a wind that blows out the lamp of your mind" |
| Omega
User ID: 357757
7/31/2008 1:31 PM | | Re: Survival Guns discussed | Quote |
I need to get a gun which one should I buy?
Should it be a rifle a pistol or a shotgun?
You see I have this mouse in the house and I need to get rid of it. And I don't want to you one of those yucky traps! Quoting: Underground_Dude 471384
Well. I used to hunt mice from my easy chair in my living room with a Dan Wesson Model 15 .357 8 inch barrel with lead shot ammo.
Thats livin'.
Just sayin'
;>)
Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science.
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