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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 555385
11/25/2008 6:55 PM | | Re: Recession proof GLP Things that might aid you in turbulent uncertain times | Quote |
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| snakeskin teeth
User ID: 552671
11/25/2008 7:38 PM | | Re: Recession proof GLP Things that might aid you in turbulent uncertain times | Quote |
Don’t know if this has been mentioned.......don’t think so, but if you plan on building permanent structures, barns, cabins, etc. lumber is invaluable. Or, the means to make it and by hand or with hand tools is not the way to go brothers. A portable saw mill (band type) that is lite enough you can pull with ATVS, horse, tractor, or truck would be a treasure. No matter how much lumber you stock pile you will run out.....lumber is hard to transport. They’re pricey but worth it....you can find used very easily.
[link to www.southern-tool.com]
Also if you plan on building solid structures, stone fireplaces, floors, well, aqueducts, post footing, ect.....a portable mortar mixer(some are hand cranked and still beat mixing in buckets) and a FULL set of stone masons/bricking tools is a must.
Who knows you may find somewhere that suits you and want to make it permanent.
my .02... |
| Frigg Stuyvesant
User ID: 504969
11/26/2008 1:20 AM
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Quoted from MALU DAN LESTER and TRENCH make sure to read any and all of their
posts...Its your ass about to go into the sling! Better try to be ready.
So your on the run or hid deep off the grid. Your hungry and thirsty and yet
your stuck inside a pine forest. For miles around all you can see is white
pines and no wild life for you to gain a meal from. To make it worse, its
styarted to snow.
So, what are you going to do?
Eat, drink and be merry is the answer. Heres how.
First off, you have your survival kit yes? good. Inside it should be at least a
fire starting kit, an axe and a shelter tarp and your steel mug.
Time to get working.
First off build your fire but DO NOT LIGHT IT. A fire thats not warming you or
cooking your food is just an IR signal to those who are watching out for you.
Your under pine, your signatures minimal, so keep it that way.
Gather up some of that snow. We are going to melt it to give us some nice fresh
water for our tea. Yes, I did say tea.
Now, go to the lowest branches that have the newest needles on, and take a good
hand full from as near to the trunk as you can get. This handful of needles
holds five times the vitamin C weight for weight than two oranges or lemons. So
gather up enough for yourself and never take more than you need to feed
yourself.
Light your fire, take a good slug of that snow and melt it down, and then,
taking those needles, place them inside a spare sock or spare bit of material
to make a DIY tea bag, make it ready and then place the 'tea bag' into the
water. Bring it to a nice rolling boil for 15 minutes.
When times up, remove the 'tea bag', and sup up. Instant cure for scurvy right
there.
Trust me its really nice stuff is that tea.
Now, we are refreshed, but still hungry. Well, lets make some fries. Taking
your axe, pick a good healthy tree. Strip off a patch of bark maybe a quarter
of the diameter of the trunk and cut it away. Now, you have the wood exposed,
cut into it till you reach the 'inner' wood (very hard, very resiliant to
cutting) and peel off your strip. this is the phloem, the nutrient carrying
'outer layer' that sits under the bark. Its sappy and messy work, but guess
what? its superbly edible.
Right, you have your large strip of phloem, now cut off thin wide strips, make
them as thin as you can, and take them to your fire. Place them into the edges
of your fire until they are a nice crispy golden colour.
Take from the fire, and eat.
Very sweet tasting, very crispy and very good for you. If you don't let them
burn, thse chips will be full of sappy sugary goodness.
From one tree comes your hunger and thirst cure with a medical benefit to boot.
Nettle tea.
Every ones heard of it, but do you know how to actually make it? if not, read
on!
Early spring or late winter produces the sweetest flavour, but when ever you
find nettles growing and there are plentiful young plants about you can utilise
them.
First off, find a nettle patch that has new growth. You are looking for growth
no higher than 6 inches. Reason is that the taller they get, the more bitter
they will taste, so short is sweet wins here.
Find your plants and de-leaf them. The way i do it is to wear a glove, start at
the base and forefinger and thumb upwards taking off all of the leaves. You
want a good fist sized ball of leaves per person for your brew if your making a
large pot, so don't be stingy!
Right, then get your make shift tea bag (a sock, tight, woven mesh bag) and
place your leaves in it. Bring your water to a nice rolling boil and for 15
minutes just let the leaves roll about. The water will start to go green, and
the deeper the green, the 'fuller' the flavour will be. i like mine so green
its almost black but each to their own, and I suggest you start off with a
lighter shade.
So remove the 'tea bag' but DO NOT THROW THEM AWAY.
Now, add a slice of any available sweetener be it apple or black berry or even
a handful of rose hip skins. Enjoy your brew.
Why didn't we throw away the leaves? because when we were out walking we
collected a good sac full of lime leaves too. Its salad time.
Mix the nettle leaves in with your cool lime leaves, add a seasoning of your
choice and enjoy your salad. They actually taste rather nice in a perfect blend
of sweet lime tree leaves and slightly earthy nettle leaf, very much like a
boiled spinnach.
Edible fungi.
First off a warning: IF YOU ARE IN ANY DOUBT AS TO WHAT YOU ARE PICKING OR
EATING, STOP RIGHT AWAY. ONLY PICK FRESH HEALTHY FUNGI WITH NO ROTTEN AREAS OR
DISCOLOURING THAT MAY LEAD TO MISTAKEN IDENTITY. PICK AND EAT AT YOUR OWN RISK.
So, edible fungi. I have provided links to pictures of very edible and
delicious fungi that I eat. I will not link to anything i have not eaten in
quantaties myself.
1) Chicken of the woods.
[link to www.northamptonshirewildlife.co.uk]
Beautiful taste, elegant additive to your cooking. Prepare to your liking, but
is delicious in a salad or fried in a little butter or oil.
2) Branching Oyster.
[link to www.northamptonshirewildlife.co.uk]
Has a relative,
[link to www.northamptonshirewildlife.co.uk]
That is also suitably edible. Pick only young fresh ones, any age related
yellowing will make their taste and texture a bit 'tough'. Cook in a sauce or
add to a stew.
3) Jews ear.
[link to www.northamptonshirewildlife.co.uk]
Is ideal as a filler for a salad or stir fry. Absorbs flavours from any sauces,
and thinly sliced makes a very tasty treat. Don't over use it as you will find
much of your sauce being sucked up by it!
camper trailers are great for bugging out with your stuff..know aead of time
what you want to throw into the camper and keep stuff handy to load up
fast..bikes are wise as are spare parts tires tools for each family
member..well stocked camper with plenty butane burried elsewhere will have you
surviving in comfort..camp by a water source .elec would be good also....
Nothing could be finer than to be "On Vacation" in the outback of a Natl Forest
or BLM land when the shit goes down.
Well, being on your own land with all you want there; well, security fencing,
nice house, lots of wood, organic garden site, chicken yard, barn for animals
or mechanic'in work...
But If you got a trailer and maybe your gear stashed at a storage lot near the
BLM/NF you got lots going right. Camper is a great boon to your spirits.
Nothing to setup, it works right away. If you got a few 100lb propane tanks and
maybe an external pump and filter to draw water into your holding tanks, you
are set. Dig a septic pit for your blackwater.
Yeah, bathing with a washcloth from a large mixing bowl or galvanized tub can
work.
Better than a travel trailer is a Cargo trailer that'll hold 8000 pounds of
gross weight. Pull that with your 4x4 crew cab one ton diesel and you are in
business where ever you arrive. Effectively your trailer can handle 6K and the
truck another ton. Might even do a tandem trailer. I have seen trucks pulling a
camper, pulling a boat.... Not me, but could be done...
A Yurt, Tipi, or Military tent is a great thing in the outback. Got a
barrelstove and a smoke hole for the stack you are in business. Rig a water
jacket and a griddle on the barrel and you have a real cookstove. Line the
barrel with clean sand, not saltwater sand, and the barrel will last for years.
energy bars not on my list, unless they're the XL Snickers.
What I like in the way of trail food is something hot. Soup mix, jerky or dried
bacon bits, fr dried potatoes, some green peas or beans. Inst coffee or tea
bags, Wylers or gatorade. Maybe try Kurt Saxon's cook in a thermos? Rice and
beans would be excellent. Maybe carry some very dry Salami and cheese. Pilot
bread or tortillas. Spam or Treet is damn good hotfried up in the morning.
Buy some onions and potatoes and dehydrate them. Add some bacon bits and Wow,
that is pretty good. Forget Ramen soups. they are loaded with msg and shit.
Maybe the noodles, but the McCormicks soup base is way better than bouillon
cubes and one $3 plastic jar of the chicken or beef base will make a gallon or
two of soup or gravy base. Add flour or starch for gravy.
Carry some flour and bake some bannock or flat bread.
Best yet, your bug out bag is the trunk of your car. maybe even take out the
rear seat and get a roof bag to carry all you can.
I also think people are way underestimating their need for food reserves.
You may not have time to garden. Might not be safe to be outdoors. Need to have
as much bulk and longterm storing food as you can acquire.
How you gonna cook? So you have MSR stainless cook set, and nice stainless
kitchenware; how're you fixed for cast iron and grilling? Not on that $1000
stainless behemoth on your back porch but outdoors or fireplace cooking? Maybe
you have some monster BBQ smoker on a trailer that you fire with red oak for
that tangy BBQ flavor? That'll do part of the job. Cast iron cook gear does the
rest or all of it. If you have a real hearth fireplace in your house, use it.
Where you gonna get firewood?
Live up North? Maybe you can make an ice-house to have ice box refrigeration?
Mound up your snow this year in a shaded area of your yard and cover it with
straw and tarps. Everything God puts in your way is an asset if you can see it
as such.
Wishing you weren't broke won't fix it.
But, there's always Lester's greatest resource; The Resale Shop!!! Scrounge up
all the cash you want to spare and checkout your Purple Heart, Salvation Army,
Goodwill, Amvets, Disabled Vets, and missionary outreach Resale.
Knives... I bought a Camillus Air Force survival knife and a quality diving
knife for $5 ea at Goodwill on one day. Other times I've found German chef's
knives for $3 ea, or Chicago Cutlery for $1. If you have a grinder or Dremel
Tool, you can buy good stainless kitchen knives, full tang for under $1 and
shape them as you see their best function.
Wool sox, long underwear, knit caps, gloves, gore-tex, boots, Backpacks It is
ALL there at the Resale shop.
Make a day of it. Visit them all. Get the feel for what store sells what.
Likely to be having a Thanksgiving or Black Friday sale at many stores this
week.
If you are really impoverished, (not saying, but..) there is always dumpster
diving behind the Thrifts or even asking to go through their discards. Lots of
good stuff they throw away. Salvation Army will even help you out
The Survivalist is not "a survivor".
The Survivalist is one who has moved their family out of harms way, usually
from the city or dense suburbs and to an area which he/she has identified as
safe.
In the event of societal collapse and ensuing chaos, this means "out of the
line of fire". Defending against mutant zombies is not the concern. Being
prepared and able to respond in a defensive situation is prudent, but not the
Survivalist's main concern.
FACT: If you are planning/preparing to fight your way to safety, IE see
yourself bugging out with 50lbs of ammo, rifle and flak vest; then you are
really playing at this and indulging in delusions. The guy who figures to fire
600 rds of AK ammo while bugging out is dead-meat before he begins.
A Survivalist will be expert at camouflage and hiding, so he/she doesn't have
to discharge a weapon.
Yet, weapons are a concern. The 2nd biggest mistake people acquiring new
firearms seem to make is embracing the .22lr or shotgun platform as a primary
weapon. My view is that your primary weapon must be on your person at all times
and ready to defend your life decisively. Long guns of any sort cannot do this
due to their size. They are ungainly to grab and shoot in a tight space and
heavy so likely NOT to be where you need them, IE in your hands, with you.
Personal water filtration devices are about the most critical to your survival
if you are warm and dry. You will die of hypothermia long before dehydration if
you get wet/chilled and body core temps drop even 4F. Yet, if you can stay warm
and dry, and then obtain filtered water which you store in a drinking canteen
like a Camelback or MSR Dromedary bag, you are handling the three most critical
aspects of immediate survival and self-sufficient living.
Food. If you don't have it you probably won't be able to forage for it.
Got stuff? Bought gear and supplies, but haven't even unpacked them? Figure
maybe to return or sell that stuff if all this blows over?
It's not going to just go away....
The USA has not been looted for every last dime so we can all sing Kumbaya and
get with the newest new deal...
Knowing how to USE your tools, your shortwave radio, your dehydrator, your
camping gear and handloading eqpt not to mention the skills to fix what you
have and make stuff you need; these are the skills that will save your life.
Not much going for you if you have lots of herbs and homeopathic remedies, but
never learned how to use your Kent's Repertory or Materia Medica. Herbs the
same way.
About the most useless piece of gear you will own, once you get where you are
going is your vehicle. Really think the country lanes, market roads and back
highways will be "safe"??? Where you gonna be going, anyway? Bugging out from
your BO location? Only gonna get one bite at this apple...
This is not just a SITX idea, but for all those times when times might be hard
and a few fresh fish would go down a treat as 'extras' on the table.
This idea is super cheap, effective, and so simple to make its actually real
fun. The end result is a fish trap that makes lines almost redundant if you get
one of these up and running.
(I tried and tested this out on a private river, and do not know the legality
of these in countries where you may read this, so if you use it, check first!).
So what do we need?
1 large float.
2 pieces of say 3 feet by 2 feet wooden / plastic board.
for the top and bottom.
5 pieces of 2 by 2 for the vertical supports.
A large roll of fine mesh chicken wire.
Some single strand wire.
1 old coke bottle.
A few yards of twine / rope / para cord for an anchor and retrival means.
Some cammo netting if you have it, if not, use natural available cammo i.e.
leaves and dirt / branches.
So, heres what we do.
We place one board on the floor and attach our pieces of two by two at each
corner and one in the centre like so.
[link to img116.imageshack.us]
We then mesh three side of it like so....
[link to img116.imageshack.us]
and taking our coke bottle as a guide size, we make a mesh funnel, and then
with our final side we cut out the hole and attach the funnel as so....
[link to img208.imageshack.us]
We then have a trap looking like this, which just needs baiting and a lid on
it!
[link to img116.imageshack.us]
So, for the lid, we just seal it down tight, adding a float so it doesn't sink
to the bottom (unless you want crabs or lobster / crayfish of course!) and then
throw our camouflage over it. We then secure it with our rope, and then leave
it be for a few days.
Believe me when i say you will not believe how many fish you have inside your
trap once you go back to check it.
I did this in a private river, and i kid you not I got dozens, a larder full in
one sitting. Great for leaving be at coming back at a later time for a table
full of food.
################################################## #
Possibly the easiest, quickest to build and most effective trap i have ever
come across. I have tried it, and it works so well i almost felt guilty about
it when i hauled in nearly 30lb of fish (returned almost half, ate and shared
the rest).
Enjoy. Dan |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 554658
11/26/2008 12:14 PM | | Re: Recession proof GLP Things that might aid you in turbulent uncertain times | Quote |
nynorsk...nynorsk...
but wasn't ragnarok the same as armageddon...
centuries in the PAST...in 1460 circa BC...
in Meggido and the Dravidian SubContinent?
still....
somebody kick LOKI in the ass for us. |
| Enigma
User ID: 545562
11/26/2008 1:58 PM
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I'm guessing a tool truck...
Lately I've been looking at a Ford F350 with a large tool box and crane on the back. thinking I could put my welder, portable gennie and lots of tools.
then if we had to move we would have a fuel and tools truck to service the convoy of folks...
Big truck would also be towing a buffalo water and fuel trailer....
TOOLS
"knowing and not DOING, is like NOT KNOWING at all" |
| Frigg Stuyvesant
User ID: 504969
11/26/2008 2:23 PM
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I'm guessing a took truck...
Lately I've been looking at a Ford F350 with a large tool box and crane on the back. thinking I could put my welder, portable gennie and lots of tools.
then if we had to move we would have a fuel and tools truck to service the convoy of folks...
Big truck would also be towing a buffalo water and fuel trailer....
TOOLS Quoting: Enigma
Very wise ideas..Mobility requires maintenance and repair. |
| Frigg Stuyvesant
User ID: 504969
11/26/2008 2:45 PM
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From Enigma post:
Another GLP superstar of reasoned preparation
What astounds me and my brother that lives in Alaska is how many people go away from their home with no tools or survival gear.
We were on the phone last night talking, and he got a new used snow machine, and hasn't gone through it completely, and it quit on him the other day a few miles from his house. He had his survival gear and tools and it was only a fouled plug, but HE COULD NOT FIND his 13/16 plug socket... and the way the fan shroud was situated, he could not get the crescent on the plug either. He spent 3 hours taking the whol fan assembly, shroud and lots and lots of stuff off, just to get a fouled plug out, clean and then put the whole machine back together.
BUT he could have stayed the night if need be, and he never leaves home on his machines without snow shoes...
we start talking about the family rule of 1 hour in a vehicle equals 3 days walking...
and it's true, one hour of snow machine riding ALSO is 3 days walk...
ASSUME you are in a car and drive one hour, average speed of 60 mph...
that would take you 3 LONG days to get home...
same on a snow machine at 20 mph and snow shoes or skiis.
So ANYTIME we leave home we have 3 days of supplies, good shoes and some basic survival gear, rain gear, a bit of food and water as you NEVER KNOW when you are going to have to walk.
Every one of my gear bags has a water purifier in it. a couple of leatherman tools, some bailing wire, rope, cord and various other tools.
I NEVER drive more than 3 hours from home without a full took kit, extra fuel, tire patch kits, and a serious survival kit.
My biggest anxiety is when I have to fly to a strange city and not have all my stuff... but I tend to take much of it anyway, and will immediatly go and buy some gear when I get there and bring it back.
If I am going to strange city by plane, I always take some mountain house, and tools, boots and b asic camping gear. Some of my collegues laugh at me, when I show up on a business trip with a couple of large duffel bags...
but I tell them I will NOT be stranded..
If I am going to be there for any length of time, my first free moment is to go to a camping store and buy emergency food, water and what I feel I could not bring...
now this DOES cause me some redundancy at home, but remember I have a lot of kids, girlfriends, wives and sycophants that ARE NOT as prepped as I am so it goes into the give away stash at home...
My big push lately is a good pair of leather and rubber boots for each family member. Leather boots are great for hiking and hard walking, but if it's muddy wet, sloppy and nasty a good pair of ankle fit rubber boots are a godsend to keep your feet warm.
tarps, raingear, rope and rubber boots...
Now if we get some from Omega we will have much great info from the GLP surv/prep Dream Team! |
| Frigg Stuyvesant
User ID: 504969
11/28/2008 4:20 PM
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I hope everyone is downloading and PRINTING now.
56 days isn't much time...
Thanks to ALL the posters who have contributed.
ESP thanks to
Omega
Enigma
MALU
Underground Dude
Dan
Trench
Lester
Rachel
Aaron o.o
Whee 8d
Ameridan
Xlr8 |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 563643
12/1/2008 1:33 PM | | Re: Recession proof GLP Things that might aid you in turbulent uncertain times | Quote |
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 170917
12/7/2008 2:08 PM | | Re: Recession proof GLP Things that might aid you in turbulent uncertain times | Quote |
about time to bump this one back to the top |
| Enigma
User ID: 70637
12/11/2008 4:55 PM
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agreed...
"knowing and not DOING, is like NOT KNOWING at all" |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 571604
12/13/2008 9:54 AM | | Re: Recession proof GLP Things that might aid you in turbulent uncertain times | Quote |
Thanks to you I have to go out and buy more ink for the printer!
But Thanks, anyway. Great ideas.
I have a lot of preps but there is still much that I had overlooked. It is invaluable to have such a long list of great minds on GLP. |
| rachel
User ID: 529732
12/13/2008 4:17 PM | | Re: Recession proof GLP Things that might aid you in turbulent uncertain times | Quote |
im screwed. i didnt get good sleeping bags.
i have a potbelly stove but hope i have enough time to get some -40 sleeping bags.
damn |
| TANITH
User ID: 522707
12/15/2008 12:00 AM
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Great stuff! Gonna need a lot of paper to print this. I'd like to add to the list, but it looks like you covered it all. I bought some motor oil... is that good for anything? ha ha
You must be the change you wish to see in the world.
-Mahatma Ghandi
Our greatest glory is not in never falling but in rising every time we fall.
-Confucius |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 572784
12/15/2008 5:37 AM | | Re: Recession proof GLP Things that might aid you in turbulent uncertain times | Quote |
I stock up on aspirin in uncertain times. If you get it on sale, you can get like 500 tabs for $3. It's something I can't imagine living without if TSHTF. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 45553
12/16/2008 11:40 AM | | Re: Recession proof GLP Things that might aid you in turbulent uncertain times | Quote |
I stock up on aspirin in uncertain times. If you get it on sale, you can get like 500 tabs for $3. It's something I can't imagine living without if TSHTF. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 572784
Aspirin won't work for Gout, and you guys are all going to have an intractable case of it after trying to live off of rice & beans and canned fish for a few days, this I promise you.
OP's list is retarded in general, seems to be a viral marketing trick for camping supplies manufactured by Coleman.
Stoves and propane cartridges??? Don't any of you idiots know how to burn wood??? |
| Frigg Stuyvesant
User ID: 504969
12/17/2008 3:29 AM
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OP's list is retarded in general, seems to be a viral marketing trick for camping supplies manufactured by Coleman.
Stoves and propane cartridges??? Don't any of you idiots know how to burn wood??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45553
Op(my humble self) is not a retard.This list is not marketing.
I hoped it would be of some help to pile it all together into a thread that would save people time and effort collecting this info.So they could get busy PREPARING!
If Chump don't want the help feel free to to lay down and die.This thread is not for you asshole.You done anything to help lately? For anyone? Didn't think so.
Fuck off and DIE!
BTW been cutting and burning wood since you were shitting in your hands and handing it to your PAPA!
Don't get me started clowning you punk! |
| anonymous
User ID: 573986
12/17/2008 3:52 AM | | Re: Recession proof GLP Things that might aid you in turbulent uncertain times | Quote |
1 gallon and 2 gallon stove top pressure cookers to conserve fuel..cooks in one third usual time..get extra parts .learn now to use them..homemade veg soup in 15 minutes of jiggle time then allow 15 min cool down time afterward time...never NEVER force lid open wait til lid very easy opens.cause you will damage your rubber ring on a stove top pressure cooker...cut up raost into palm size pieces ,then cook times wil be 30 minutes during giggle period ..and it also holds in vitamins. |
| Frigg Stuyvesant
User ID: 504969
12/17/2008 4:02 AM
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1 gallon and 2 gallon stove top pressure cookers to conserve fuel..cooks in one third usual time..get extra parts .learn now to use them..homemade veg soup in 15 minutes of jiggle time then allow 15 min cool down time afterward time...never NEVER force lid open wait til lid very easy opens.cause you will damage your rubber ring on a stove top pressure cooker...cut up raost into palm size pieces ,then cook times wil be 30 minutes during giggle period ..and it also holds in vitamins. Quoting: anonymous 573986
Damn good call friend. |
| dharma
User ID: 574053
12/17/2008 4:09 AM | | Re: Recession proof GLP Things that might aid you in turbulent uncertain times | Quote |
good thread.. get downloading peeps, the clock is ticking....
have you looked over at [link to www.survivalblog.com]
(apologies, still haven't worked out how to do the hyperlink :) ) |
| dharma
User ID: 574053
12/17/2008 4:11 AM | | Re: Recession proof GLP Things that might aid you in turbulent uncertain times | Quote |
ah, just looke at the post i just did, the system adds the hyperlink automatically... xlnt, the joys of technology... lol |
| Frigg Stuyvesant
User ID: 504969
12/17/2008 4:15 AM
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good thread.. get downloading peeps, the clock is ticking....
have you looked over at [ link to www.survivalblog.com]
(apologies, still haven't worked out how to do the hyperlink :) )
Yes it is awesome.
Thought about dragging some specifics to this thread(from them) but I think your link is a better idea.Linked earlier in the thread.
I am working on a more coherent version of this thread which I will post(here) when I finish.
Not enough hours in the day.lol! |
| dharma
User ID: 574053
12/17/2008 4:42 AM | | Re: Recession proof GLP Things that might aid you in turbulent uncertain times | Quote |
ah, missed the earlier link, mustlearn to speed read more effectively, lol.
great thread though, you could no doubt do an entire website on this subject alone.
Seems to me it's something we need to be bringing into focus, not necessarily all becoming bunker dwelling survivalists, but certainly more self sufficient -- it does seem there's a bad moon rising.. (with all due respect to john fogerty lol) |
| anonymous
User ID: 573986
12/17/2008 5:27 AM | | Re: Recession proof GLP Things that might aid you in turbulent uncertain times | Quote |
a new must have .guys gals get fixed .it protects your future incomes from child support issues for life. call planned parenhood, cause kids are so expensive to raise and single mom have a ery hard time finding any lasting new mates who will help to raise other mens kids..thus these gals and kids are literally shoved into long term poverty over time. . and marriages and relationships do not last any more..america has enough poor fatherless kids already, from broken homes ... |
| Frigg Stuyvesant
User ID: 504969
12/17/2008 5:31 AM
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a new must have .guys gals get fixed .it protects your future incomes from child support issues for life. call planned parenhood, cause kids are so expensive to raise and single mom have a ery hard time finding any lasting new mates who will help to raise other mens kids..thus these gals and kids are literally shoved into long term poverty over time. . and marriages and relationships do not last any more..america has enough poor fatherless kids already, from broken homes ... Quoting: anonymous 573986
It is called responsible sexual conduct.
We will very soon be seeing what every one of us is made of. |
| anonymous
User ID: 573986
12/17/2008 5:52 AM | | Re: Recession proof GLP Things that might aid you in turbulent uncertain times | Quote |
a new must have .guys gals get fixed .it protects your future incomes from child support issues for life. call planned parenhood, cause kids are so expensive to raise and single mom have a ery hard time finding any lasting new mates who will help to raise other mens kids..thus these gals and kids are literally shoved into long term poverty over time. . and marriages and relationships do not last any more..america has enough poor fatherless kids already, from broken homes ...
It is called responsible sexual conduct.
We will very soon be seeing what every one of us is made of. Quoting: Frigg Stuyvesant
drunks and drug addicts forget responsible sex practices..that helps put more impoverished fatheless kids into america..get fixed...then no more suprise preg issues during your lifetimes .it completely protects your future incomes from child support courts.. |
| Frigg Stuyvesant
User ID: 504969
12/17/2008 6:15 AM
| | Re: Recession proof GLP Things that might aid you in turbulent uncertain times | Quote |
a new must have .guys gals get fixed .it protects your future incomes from child support issues for life. call planned parenhood, cause kids are so expensive to raise and single mom have a ery hard time finding any lasting new mates who will help to raise other mens kids..thus these gals and kids are literally shoved into long term poverty over time. . and marriages and relationships do not last any more..america has enough poor fatherless kids already, from broken homes ...
It is called responsible sexual conduct.
We will very soon be seeing what every one of us is made of.
drunks and drug addicts forget responsible sex practices..that helps put more impoverished fatheless kids into america..get fixed...then no more suprise preg issues during your lifetimes .it completely protects your future incomes from child support courts.. Quoting: anonymous 573986
I think there might be a position at Planned Parenthood for you.
They think like you think.And Hitler.
Contraceptives work.
Sexual mutilation is Eugenics. |
| anonymous
User ID: 573986
12/17/2008 7:27 AM | | Re: Recession proof GLP Things that might aid you in turbulent uncertain times | Quote |
a new must have .guys gals get fixed .it protects your future incomes from child support issues for life. call planned parenhood, cause kids are so expensive to raise and single mom have a ery hard time finding any lasting new mates who will help to raise other mens kids..thus these gals and kids are literally shoved into long term poverty over time. . and marriages and relationships do not last any more..america has enough poor fatherless kids already, from broken homes ...
It is called responsible sexual conduct.
We will very soon be seeing what every one of us is made of.
drunks and drug addicts forget responsible sex practices..that helps put more impoverished fatheless kids into america..get fixed...then no more suprise preg issues during your lifetimes .it completely protects your future incomes from child support courts..
I think there might be a position at Planned Parenthood for you.
They think like you think.And Hitler.
Contraceptives work.
Sexual mutilation is Eugenics. Quoting: Frigg Stuyvesant
many guys found out TO LATE that lusty hot miss wonderful, had ran out of her pills, and did not have funds to go for dr apointment and pap smear which cost $100.00 plus just for new prescription of pills.. so the guy now pays $ 1,000.00 A MONTH FOR 18 YRS To CHILD SUPPORT COURT ...A CHEAP Vasactomy would have protected his future income from a 18 yr child support fund issue of $360,000.00 ..so who is dumb now... |
| anonymous
User ID: 573986
12/17/2008 7:31 AM | | Re: Recession proof GLP Things that might aid you in turbulent uncertain times | Quote |
a new must have .guys gals get fixed .it protects your future incomes from child support issues for life. call planned parenhood, cause kids are so expensive to raise and single mom have a ery hard time finding any lasting new mates who will help to raise other mens kids..thus these gals and kids are literally shoved into long term poverty over time. . and marriages and relationships do not last any more..america has enough poor fatherless kids already, from broken homes ...
It is called responsible sexual conduct.
We will very soon be seeing what every one of us is made of.
drunks and drug addicts forget responsible sex practices..that helps put more impoverished fatheless kids into america..get fixed...then no more suprise preg issues during your lifetimes .it completely protects your future incomes from child support courts..
I think there might be a position at Planned Parenthood for you.
They think like you think.And Hitler.
Contraceptives work.
Sexual mutilation is Eugenics. Quoting: Frigg Stuyvesant
many guys found out TO LATE that lusty hot miss wonderful, had ran out of her pills, and did not have funds to go for dr apointment and pap smear which cost $100.00 plus just for new prescription of pills.. so the guy now pays $ 1,000.00 A MONTH FOR 18 YRS To CHILD SUPPORT COURT ...A CHEAP Vasactomy would have protected his future income from a 18 yr child support fund issue of $360,000.00 after inflation issues also get added to his court order suport and health insurance and other various medical bills are added to the final toll. ..so who is dumb now...a cheap vasectomy would have his his funds for his lifetime.. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 568024
12/17/2008 6:05 PM | | Re: Recession proof GLP Things that might aid you in turbulent uncertain times | Quote |
Fuck this live like a fucking caveman bollocks.
No Mad Max road warrior bullshit for me, If the shit hits the fan im gonna shoot aload of people for laughs and then jack up with the largest dose of brown known to mankind and send myself to the promised land.
You can forage like squirrels, ive got 74 virgins to take care of.
Have fun. |
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