Who are the two witness'?

Then Jesus is spiritually symbolic.

If Revelation is symbolic... then Jesus is also symbolic... how do you feel you have the right to make such an assumption?

Greetings,

You lost me there. What is symbolic is much of The Book of Revelation and for a very good reason considering the things going on and more importantly the thing that were to shortly come to pass as the Book opens with.

Jesus was not "symbolic" He was the Word of God incarnate as stated in the first chapter of John.

The Book of Revelation was a Book of hope for the Christians which encouraged them to hold on through persecution.

It is not a Book written to non believers nor does it address the message the believer is to take to the world.

The Book of Revelation does not tell a non believer what they must do to be saved. If they have not been saved they have not The Spirit. If they have not the Spirit they certainly cannot understand Revelation.

Regards

I will check in later.

Y'all take care.

JimmyK

Exactly my point... you do not understand Revelation.

I can see you put a lot of effort into your response. Even backed it up with your opinion based on, well,you.

If you hold that Jesus was merely symbolic then we have a problem.

Symbolisms and types were in the old as a picture looking towards the death of Christ which in itself was no symbol but the actual shedding of His blood.

Hebrews 9

Then verily the first covenant had also ordinances of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary.

For there was a tabernacle made; the first, wherein was the candlestick, and the table, and the shewbread; which is called the sanctuary.

And after the second veil, the tabernacle which is called the Holiest of all;

Which had the golden censer, and the ark of the covenant overlaid round about with gold, wherein was the golden pot that had manna, and Aaron's rod that budded, and the tables of the covenant;

And over it the cherubims of glory shadowing the mercyseat; of which we cannot now speak particularly.

Now when these things were thus ordained, the priests went always into the first tabernacle, accomplishing the service of God.

But into the second went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and for the errors of the people:

The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:

Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience;

Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.

But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;

Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.

For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:

How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.

For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood.

For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people,

Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you.

Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry.

And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.

For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:

Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others;

For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.

And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation"

Christ was not symbolic, quite the contrary, everything pointed to Him.

Regards

JimmyK

In my experience as far as the bible is concerned. JimmyK knows what's up.

listen up if you care to hear the answers to this thread

PeAcE

Thread: I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ!



This guy said he had a vision that the two witnesses were delivering their message to the world on GLP.



Why in the hell would the two witnesses visit GLP?

corinthians 8:11
" and through thy knowledge shall the weak brother perish for whom Christ died"
Knowledge properly translated is " Science"

BriGuy you got a thread going now LOL
Give them something religious to argue about and off they go.
It's no wonder man has made such a mess out of religion.
Peace Out All

The Old Testament and the New Testament are two witnesses of God/Jesus

Hi,

The term "Knowledge" is rightly translated as "Science" in but one instance in The New Testament.

That would be at 1 Timothy 6:20

"Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:"

I am not sure of your studies in Greek, but if you have done so, look it up. Strong's Concordance will bear this out.

Regards

JimmyK

You and me are the two witnesses. Any questions?

Witnesses to what?

3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

(God will give power the the 2 Witnesses which is the Gospel of Jesus Christ... what power? it will soon explain here...)


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God gave the Revelation to Jesus who gave it to John. The I in this is Jesus.


3 And I ( Jesus ) will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.


The two witnesses were chosen by Jesus, but called by God, on Monday, December 7th, 1992, at 0747. This commenced God's seven years of Judgment. Throughout the Judgment i was with God and Elijah only. Jesus did not come to me until mid November, 1999.


In the following 7 years of Judgment i would get shafted by 7 CORRUPT Lucifer worshiping freakmason dogs masquerading as Judges. i never got more than 4 hours sleep in a day over those 7 years, many many times no sleep at all.

At the end of God's Judgment, at the very end of November 1999, God commanded me to unleash. God then stepped back and Jesus and Elijah took over. i still dealt with God, however, Jesus and Elijah were with me all the time.

On the 3rd of December 1999. Elijah came to me and told me that i was to unleash on the 7th of December, 1999, at 0747. Elijah wanted three strikes, an Earthquake, Tidal waves and an asteroid strike, all before morning tea. i don't know what he had planned for the rest of the day. This came out of the blue for me. At no time during God's 7 years of Judgment did God give any indication that this was his intent. God had only revealed to me that he would bring them to justice. i always thought this would be via the courtroom steps. During the 7 years of judgment i had no idea that Lucifer and his masons controlled the CORRUPT Justice system. However, God was fair, Lucifer and his masons did not know that i was God's witness during this 7 years.

i dropped to my knees, begged prayed and pleaded to God and Jesus not to do this. It went against every grain of my body. i told God that he was wrong, and Broad sweeps taking everyone, was more of an injustice than what Lucifer and fucking CORRUPT masons had done over the 7 years of his Judgment. Elijah keep smashing me, as far as Elijah was concerned, God had given me a direct command and i was going to follow it. i remained on my knees begging praying and pleading for them. Elijah just keep smashing me and i had virtually no sleep for two weeks, when Elijah came to me and told me he wanted to drought them. i thought about it for a couple of days, it was not something i wanted to do, however, i figured at least no one would die and Elijah would back off. i agreed, and Elijah began to with hold the rain. It took 12 months before Elijah considered them to be in drought conditions, when when Elijah made me prophesy for the first time on the 3rd of December, 2000. The drought would last for 7 years. i then prophesyied for Elijah for next 12 months. i was still on my knees trying to save them two years later when Jesus displayed God's 7 Spirits before me on the 27th of November, 2001. i had no intention of writing about it. Thousands of things had happened since God called me in December 1992 up until this point. i told no one and wrote nothing about any of it, as far i was concerned it was between God and me.

Jesus caused me to write about God's 7 Spirits on the 3rd of December, 2001, 6 days after i was shown them. This post commenced my three and 1/2 years of prophesy as per Revelation 11.3. Jesus opened the first seal on the 11th of December, 2001, 14 days after showing me the 7 Spirits. 14 days later Elijah used the Spirit of Fire to burn the fuck out of NSW for 14 days before sending rain, just enough to extinguish the fires.

That will do for this post, it is already to long..


God's witness of Revelation. In the power and Spirit of Elijah.


That will

Elijah did not back off, he smashed me for 5 and 1/2 years up until my prophesy ended on the 3rd of June 2005 to follow God's command

BAM! This is the closest thing to the truth I've seen so far.

Never content nor satisfied,
Intentions of Self.
That massacre changed history.
Borderline paranoia;
Yelling out their own rights.
Set it off!
Does anybody feel this way?
Does anybody feel like I do?
Half of me is gone,
the lonesome part is left.
I cannot find the other half.


Why are we still quoting scripture? The speculative "witnesses" are of no modern relevance. Are some of the same players still on the stage? Quite possibly. Rest assured, everyone is immortal. Compared to actual existence, this is child's play. However, not everyone can reunite all aspects of Self. Who will be among the first?

Certainly not those bogged down by dogmatic programming. Religion exists to ensure that history repeats itself with the current set of controllers safe in their seats.


Our fears...
Our fears ring true
We're on a march towards the end.
Cover my eyes,
But I still hear the deafening drums of war.
Onward! Every twisted spoke...

Let's make history
Let's make history stop
When there's nothing left
We'll be fed our father's dreams

Embrace this sickness with open arms
If you believe you'll run with ghosts.
Pull out the arrows that poison your mind.
Look inside and ask yourself why...
Why would you really want to live forever?
Every breath expelled together

In faith alone, in place apart
Be there to meet your maker

Raise your eyes from sleep
Together you will keep searching
The answers will never come
KEEP SEARCHING

On the 11th December,2001, i was talking to Jesus when a comet/shooting star (not exactly sure what it was) streaks across the sky from East to West. It had a redish orange long tail, and as it reached the western sky, lasted about 5 seconds, it burst into a massive fire ball.. That was God signaling to me, the opening of the first Seal by Jesus. 7 days later, on the 18th of December, 2001, God then let me know that he would burn New South wales starting on Christmas day. 7 days later, on Christmas day, New south wales began to burn, focusing first around Sydney, Sydney harbour was covered with smoke from the fires on the 26th of December, 2001, as the yachts set off for the Sydney to Hobart race,, It looked like a scene from the Apocalypse.. Over the following 14 days God burnt NSW virtually from border to border. The fires covered thousands of kilometers of NSW. God was not out to kill anyone, God was just revealing his anger to freakmasons controlled joke of a satan infected justice system, which God had judged during his seven years of judgment.

God used electrical storms, thousands upon thousands of lightning strikes without a single drop of rain. Elijah had been withholding their rain from December, 1999, so that they would be in drought condition for the period of my prophesy. They were in a severe drought by this time.

. God caused them to burn for exactly 14 days, at which time, God caused it to rain just enough to extinguish the fires. If God had not shown mercy at this time, NSW would still be burning today. At that time God still heard my pleas.


. God had given me powers in December 1999, to carry out his Judgment. i asked God for more time, i received an additional two years. Once God sent his Spirits, my time had expired. i did not realize this at the time and was still praying for you. God had shown me visions in 2000, and caused me to prophesy via Elijah from 3,12,2000. The second Seal was broken in June, 2002, the third seal on December 3,2002. The fourth Seal will be broken in June, 2003.

Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] Quote

Inside Job, FALSE FLAG, used to commence the NEVER ENDING WAR OF TERROR ( WW3 ) that ends in a worldwide Nuclear holocaust,, and the NEVER ENDING WAR on GOD's given freedoms via the UNpatriot acts and the military commission acts..

BUSH is THE Anti Christ, the man of perdition, who came to power with just five votes from the supreme court of satan's freakmasons.

America is Babylon the great and will now be destroyed..



(1911 votes)


Revelation 19 11


The Rider on the White Horse
11 I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. 12His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. 13He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. 14The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. 15Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. "He will rule them with an iron scepter."[a] He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. 16On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:
KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.


911 was an inside job.. It is now time for Justice..

God's witness of Revelation. In the power and Spirit of Elijah..

Farewell.

Jesus has NOW picked up his sword. You were given many years of grace. Your grace has NOW ended

the two witnesses are Israel and Palestinians... in my humble opinion.

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For Skinny
Elijah made me prophesy from the 3rd of December , 2000. At this time i did not know it was Elijah, i thought it was the Holy Spirit who had been with me from December 7th, 1992..... i took this as the start date of the 1,260 days as per revelation 11.3. Last week Elijah let me know i was wrong. i was really pissed on two levels...i was looking forward to going home and leaving this Satan infected Planet....and...i was upset with Elijah for withholding this information from me....God did the same thing to me when i was his witness. God showed me hundreds of miracles between 1992 and 1999 and let me know i was working for him., but God witheld from me the FACT that i was one of his two witnesses....Although Elijah made me prophesy many times from 3rd of December , 2000.....
The first posts Elijah made me write, Elijah made me place 311 above each of them, ( Each was humorous poetry ).....The last a few days before God shook the Us with an Earthquake that split the US supreme court building of Satan's masons, who in December 2000 bought the antichrist Bush into power with just a few votes.... This was how God expressed his anger. God did not kill anyone even though the earthquake shook many states of the US. i thought it was really funny that God split the supreme court of satan's masons, but not as funnny as watching the politicians heads rock backwards and forwards, especiallt hillaries.

Jesus said " i will cause ", i assumed that Jesus had sent the Holy spirit to me and caused me to prophesy. i told the TRUTH as i understood it at the time. i knew i did not write them. i had to read them a few times to understand what he was actually saying. Each one of the three posts were prophesy.

Jesus caused me prophesy from 3rd of December , 2001 when he caused me to write for the first time, and i saw, when Jesus displayed before me God's seven Spirits.....i placed that post in your Bible class...... ....The 1,260 days of my prophesy as per revelation 11.3,, commenced with the my testimony as to what i had seen, on the 3rd of December 2001.......the day Jesus caused me to write about it.......6 days after the vision....


Does not alter the Seals. The sixth seal will be broken on June 3 2004.



God judged the Earth from the 7th of December 1992 until late November 1999. When God gave me powers and the bad news at the end of his judgment...( i did not know at this time that i was God's witness, i just believed that God had called me on Monday the 7th of December, at 0747,.1992, and that had been working for God for the previous seven years ) i was on my knees praying. begging and pleading with God for more time......The witnesses pleas and prayers to Jesus put the sending of God's seven Spirits back 2years. God gave 2 years of grace..God sent his 7 Spirits at the 9 year mark.





i am semi literate and hate writing,,,why Jesus chose me..i will never understand....

i swear before God that what i have written is TRUTH.

God's witness Revelation

On the 11th December,2001, i was talking to Jesus when a comet/shooting star (not exactly sure what it was) streaks across the sky from East to West. It had a redish orange long tail, and as it reached the western sky, lasted about 5 seconds, it burst into a massive fire ball.. That was God signaling to me, the opening of the first Seal by Jesus. 7 days later, on the 18th of December, 2001, God then let me know that he would burn New South wales starting on Christmas day. 7 days later, on Christmas day, New south wales began to burn, focusing first around Sydney, Sydney harbour was covered with smoke from the fires on the 26th of December, 2001, as the yachts set off for the Sydney to Hobart race,, It looked like a scene from the Apocalypse.. Over the following 14 days God burnt NSW virtually from border to border. The fires covered thousands of kilometers of NSW. God was not out to kill anyone, God was just revealing his anger to freakmasons controlled joke of a satan infected justice system, which God had judged during his seven years of judgment.

God used electrical storms, thousands upon thousands of lightning strikes without a single drop of rain. Elijah had been withholding their rain from December, 1999, so that they would be in drought condition for the period of my prophesy. They were in a severe drought by this time.

. God caused them to burn for exactly 14 days, at which time, God caused it to rain just enough to extinguish the fires. If God had not shown mercy at this time, NSW would still be burning today. At that time God still heard my pleas.


Jesus had given me powers in December 1999, to carry out God's Judgment. i asked God for more time, i received an additional two years. Once God sent his Spirits, my time had expired. i did not realize this at the time and was still praying for you. Jesus had shown me visions in 2000, and caused me to prophesy via Elijah from 3,12,2000. The second Seal was broken in June, 2002, the third seal on December 3,2002. The fourth Seal will be broken in June, 2003.

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My Apologies to Elton



Holy Moses, the sheep have been deceived

The anti christ he rules the US and Satan he smirks with glee

My distant brother from down the line

These dollar worshipers ain't my kind

Holy Moses, the Beast he does deceive




Holy Moses most of the World seeks peace

But Satans boys they bow before the numbers of the beast

So won't you please excuse my frankness

But it's prophet boy i be

Revelation, it's justice that God seeks.




Holy Moses God gave his only son

They nailed him up and let him die so Satan he could have fun

Now that they've all been incarnated

And will stand before the Judge

Revelation, now the time has come.



One of God's Witnesses of Revelation.

"A true prophet does not have to read the bible to find out what is going to happen, he knows instinctively because of God."


The above was a stupid statement by a talmud muncher,,, this was my response. Ps,, just for the record, i am not a Prophet,,, i am a witness who prophescied.



During God's seven years of Judgement, ( Dec 1992 until Nov 1999 ) i was with God and the Holy Spirit ( now known to me as Elijah ) every day.. Not once did God or Elijah get me to open a Bible during these seven years..God and the Holy Spirit performed many miracles for me, God let me know that he would bring satan's boys to Justice. God judged seven judges over 7 years during his seven years of Judgment which commenced on Monday the 7th of December at 0747.
IF God had of got me to open a Bible during these seven years, i might have clicked that God was infact judging the Earth. i was not permitted to know. God gave me my powers in Dec 1999, Through Elijah made me withhold the rain so that they were drought conditions during my prophesy which commenced from 3,12,2000 via Elijah, and finally made Jesus display his seven Spirits in front of me in November of 2001.., then Jesus made me write about the sending of God's seven Spirits on the 3rd of december 2001, which commenced my 1,260 days of prophesy as per revelation 11.3.

Only after all this had happened did God permit me read Revelation. When i got to 11,3 DING DING DING DING,. i could finally see the big picture. Elijah had been with me for more than ten years before God revealed to me who he was in August of 2003. If i had of know it was Elijah i would have opened a Bible to find out who he was, as i had never heard of him... i had believed for more than a decade that Elijah was the Holy Spirit.. God does not lay it all out for you,, God only reveals to you that which you need to know to be able to carry out the tasks, that God gave me.


If God revealed every thing to Jesus when he was on Earth in the Flesh, Jesus would not have spent ten years studying in the East. God guides you,, BUT,, you have to do the work..

You are a dipshit and a complete ass. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries. I spit in your general direction.

How does one know that the witnesses have read the bible or are even religious?

is it impossible to consider that 'innocence' and 'purity' of heart may be seen favourable by a God seeking to witness through a human that may possibly reflect the way the creator itself may witness/sense things if human.

God feels through all his children yet through the beings of these 'two' he will judge.

It only seems fair that humanity be judged 'via' those that have lived in the world and endured its sin.
Only those with the compassion of christ can bare the weight of 'all' the fallen as they live and only such compassion has the love to save them.

Typical response from a cabalist satan worshiping tal MUD muncher from the sinagog of satan who resides in apostate israel or Mystery Babylon the great, Lucifer's mason controlled America. Being in either location will shortly result in your body turning to dust. Your response has no substance, like your Spirit.

You should spend your time with God or Jesus, they would both give you insight into what is about to happen, as you are obviously oblivious to the up coming REALITY.

No. Next.



Total Onslaught - The Beast from the Bottomless Pit
Prof Walter Veith
[link to video.google.com]
The Beast from the Bottomless Pit, The French Revolution, The Illuminati, The symbolic Two Witnesses, Ellen White writings on secret societies.

Don't presume you know anything about me. Go stuff your head back in your hole.

i am one of God's two witnesses. i am NOT religious i am Spiritual, i deal with Spirits.

God and Elijah were with me from December 1992 and guiding me so i had no need to open a Bible at that time.

It was only once Jesus displayed God's 7 Spirits before me that i opened a Bible at the 9 year mark, late November 2001.

What have you witnessed?