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whyidontknow 
User ID: 471651
7/28/2008 3:11 PM
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i would like to ask you some questions
(based on psychic/lightwork)
if any of you are willing plz respond thxx |
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Divinity
User ID: 474913
7/28/2008 4:16 PM
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Hi there... 
I hope I can help. I'm not consciously psychic although I do get strong intuitional 'feelings' for people/situations and I do take part in quite a bit of Lightwork. So please, fire away. Are you psychic?
Thanks,
Div
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PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles."
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Sireen-reborn
User ID: 472239
7/28/2008 4:17 PM
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loki
User ID: 474915
7/28/2008 4:18 PM
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ask away! :) |
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whyidontknow
User ID: 471651
7/28/2008 4:21 PM
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i believe once you reach a certain spiritual level being psychic is only part of your awareness
so yes i have been through psychic phases and i work with energy
i would like to discuss key concepts in regards to anything of a spiritual/metapsychical nature
i would also like to keep bantering/backstabbing/slandering at a minimum if thats at all possible
i am not trying to start a hate thread |
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loki
User ID: 474915
7/28/2008 4:22 PM
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ask away :) |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 474817
7/28/2008 4:25 PM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
Light Worker. Seems to me to be a title in which someone "works" with Light and manipulates it.
......Transgression of Spiritual Laws. |
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whyidontknow
User ID: 471651
7/28/2008 4:27 PM
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i dont have a general question off the bat
but i am interested in light/darkness for instance
since each side are polar opposites of another
do not dark beings work with light, if light is used in the sence of trying to improve 'raise'
a dark being would need 'raise' in order to expand
i.e.
if there is a light being trying to disalusion would that being need to be working with dark energy as well?? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 474617
7/28/2008 4:29 PM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
is dark not just the absence of light....all the rest of it's "characteristics" conjuring of the human ego-mind? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 474767
7/28/2008 4:32 PM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
i dont have a general question off the bat
but i am interested in light/darkness for instance
since each side are polar opposites of another
do not dark beings work with light, if light is used in the sence of trying to improve 'raise'
a dark being would need 'raise' in order to expand
i.e.
if there is a light being trying to disalusion would that being need to be working with dark energy as well?? Quoting: whyidontknow
Sorry if I'm stepping on anyone's toes here but I've had first hand experience of the "dark" beings and believe me if you ever see one you'll understand just how far beyond any normal concept of "darkness" they are in both look and the vibe they give off. |
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loki
User ID: 474915
7/28/2008 4:34 PM
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i dont have a general question off the bat
but i am interested in light/darkness for instance
since each side are polar opposites of another
do not dark beings work with light, if light is used in the sence of trying to improve 'raise'
a dark being would need 'raise' in order to expand
i.e.
if there is a light being trying to disalusion would that being need to be working with dark energy as well?? Quoting: whyidontknow
it's all of light, imo
darkness is just a slowed down denser vibration of light
speed up time, and it all turns to white light
just like when you spin a color wheel, it all turns to light
that's just my belief :) |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 474617
7/28/2008 4:35 PM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
i dont have a general question off the bat
but i am interested in light/darkness for instance
since each side are polar opposites of another
do not dark beings work with light, if light is used in the sence of trying to improve 'raise'
a dark being would need 'raise' in order to expand
i.e.
if there is a light being trying to disalusion would that being need to be working with dark energy as well??
Sorry if I'm stepping on anyone's toes here but I've had first hand experience of the "dark" beings and believe me if you ever see one you'll understand just how far beyond any normal concept of "darkness" they are in both look and the vibe they give off. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 474767
same here friend....but in the end having processed and integrated those profoundly disturbing experiences i have become more aware of the light.
the experiences were necessary for me as teachings. |
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whyidontknow
User ID: 471651
7/28/2008 4:37 PM
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if it all turnd to light there would not be two sides
it would all just be light and we would have no understanding of darkness
plus i was saying could their not be a dark being that works with light
more then a light being that works with it based on how the operator is manipulating the energy |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 474767
7/28/2008 4:40 PM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
same here friend....but in the end having processed and integrated those profoundly disturbing experiences i have become more aware of the light.
the experiences were necessary for me as teachings. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 474617
I agree 100% and I feel that if you do see one it is not by their own design rather by those who would attempt to protect you. |
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Wasayo nli
User ID: 21429
7/28/2008 4:41 PM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
Dark vs. Light is just more New Age blather... illusion.
Both are necessary and present within the 3-D timeline... in all things.
In the 3-D reality we are all in ~ there is no place Light is without Darkness ~ and conversely, no place Darkness is without Light. It is a balance... Gnothe Seuton.
Life is a hologram encompassing opposites: either/or ~ dark/light... night/day... male/female ~ the interweaving and unity of these in a caduceus or DNA strand. Thus, we learn and grow. The task is to embrace all aspects of ourselves ~ and of life... to deny nothing.
Psychic and astrologer here. Wasayo |
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loki
User ID: 474915
7/28/2008 4:43 PM
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if it all turnd to light there would not be two sides
it would all just be light and we would have no understanding of darkness Quoting: whyidontknow
except for all the understanding we've gathered in our sojourn in time.
plus i was saying could their not be a dark being that works with light
more then a light being that works with it based on how the operator is manipulating the energy Quoting: whyidontknow
it's all reletive, hey
I've seen some really ROTTEN people show compassion and sympathy. it's just sometimes difficult for people to act/talk from the heart, that are really closed off. for them often it will take something like a death to awaken their heart |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 474817
7/28/2008 4:46 PM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
Dark vs. Light is just more New Age blather... illusion.
Both are necessary and present within the 3-D timeline... in all things.
In the 3-D reality we are all in ~ there is no place Light is without Darkness ~ and conversely, no place Darkness is without Light. It is a balance... Gnothe Seuton.
Life is a hologram encompassing opposites: either/or ~ dark/light... night/day... male/female ~ the interweaving and unity of these in a caduceus or DNA strand. Thus, we learn and grow. The task is to embrace all aspects of ourselves ~ and of life... to deny nothing.
Psychic and astrologer here. Wasayo Quoting: Wasayo nli 21429
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 474617
7/28/2008 4:47 PM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
same here friend....but in the end having processed and integrated those profoundly disturbing experiences i have become more aware of the light.
the experiences were necessary for me as teachings.
I agree 100% and I feel that if you do see one it is not by their own design rather by those who would attempt to protect you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 474767
remember the movie the dark crystal?
in the end the sketskis(sp) and the mystics were just dualistic aspects of higher beings.
the mytics protected the gelflings but also sent them right into the realm of the sketskis. |
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whyidontknow
User ID: 471651
7/28/2008 4:47 PM
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Dark vs. Light is just more New Age blather... illusion.
Both are necessary and present within the 3-D timeline... in all things.
In the 3-D reality we are all in ~ there is no place Light is without Darkness ~ and conversely, no place Darkness is without Light. It is a balance... Gnothe Seuton.
Life is a hologram encompassing opposites: either/or ~ dark/light... night/day... male/female ~ the interweaving and unity of these in a caduceus or DNA strand. Thus, we learn and grow. The task is to embrace all aspects of ourselves ~ and of life... to deny nothing.
Psychic and astrologer here. Wasayo Quoting: Wasayo nli 21429
yes you hit on a few things i have been experiencing lately
mainly duality
but there comes a point of absolution when you become whole emcompassed with both sides
when you are integrated with that how do you know wich side you are on do you forever exist in a place that is nuetral and merely observing
because in order to do anything you must act on something is that not what defines you?? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 469767
7/28/2008 4:52 PM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
if it all turnd to light there would not be two sides
it would all just be light and we would have no understanding of darkness
plus i was saying could their not be a dark being that works with light
more then a light being that works with it based on how the operator is manipulating the energy Quoting: whyidontknow
The Energy is all the same. The Laws of the Universe are equal to all. (The sun shines on all regardless of who is receiving the sunrays.) Therefore, a being in the dark can manipulate the energy just as a being coming from the light.
Light and dark are not opposites. They are just different degrees of the same thing ~ Energy. This is why its called polarity. Different degrees of the same thing. Like on a thermometer, the different degrees indicate different vibrations in temperature. But hot is only different than cold in degrees, not in substance.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 474817
7/28/2008 4:55 PM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
Dark vs. Light is just more New Age blather... illusion.
Both are necessary and present within the 3-D timeline... in all things.
In the 3-D reality we are all in ~ there is no place Light is without Darkness ~ and conversely, no place Darkness is without Light. It is a balance... Gnothe Seuton.
Life is a hologram encompassing opposites: either/or ~ dark/light... night/day... male/female ~ the interweaving and unity of these in a caduceus or DNA strand. Thus, we learn and grow. The task is to embrace all aspects of ourselves ~ and of life... to deny nothing.
Psychic and astrologer here. Wasayo
yes you hit on a few things i have been experiencing lately
mainly duality
but there comes a point of absolution when you become whole emcompassed with both sides
when you are integrated with that how do you know wich side you are on do you forever exist in a place that is nuetral and merely observing
because in order to do anything you must act on something is that not what defines you?? Quoting: whyidontknow
Sorry for jumping in here. In reality...there is no side to integrate your self in. You do not "act" according to preference. You only experience. There is so much more that just learning Love and Light. It is the integration of all experiences into making you who you are.
And it is you, who you are ,and have been, and will become, that adds to the whole. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 474767
7/28/2008 4:57 PM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
same here friend....but in the end having processed and integrated those profoundly disturbing experiences i have become more aware of the light.
the experiences were necessary for me as teachings.
I agree 100% and I feel that if you do see one it is not by their own design rather by those who would attempt to protect you.
remember the movie the dark crystal?
in the end the sketskis(sp) and the mystics were just dualistic aspects of higher beings.
the mytics protected the gelflings but also sent them right into the realm of the sketskis. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 474617
Cool film, my experience was a literal one and involved not only me but another member of my family who witnessed it separately without any input from me to sway her memory of it one way or the other.
And all I can say is that these things are real and not being a lightworker (never heard that until I came on here) or a psychic I felt a complete absence of anything be it light or warmth just a sort of brooding intelligence. |
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nonmaterial structure
User ID: 376724
7/28/2008 5:15 PM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
Hi Sireen-reborn,
Empath here Quoting: Sireen-reborn
Brilliant for me you are that. Last week I found a new word which opened a whole new (to me) descriptive/thought concept. May I ask a favour? Does this description ring a bell with you?
Empathy
In phenomenology, empathy refers to the experience of another human body as another subjectivity: You see another body, but you immediately perceive another subject. In Husserl's original account, this was done by apperception built on the experiences of your own lived-body which you experience in a dual way, both as object (you can touch your own hand) and as your own subjectivity (you are being touched). This experience of your own body as your own subjectivity is then applied to the experience of another's body, which, through apperception, is constituted as another subjectivity. This experience of empathy is important in the phenomenological account of intersubjectivity. Quoting: Wikipidia
The word I discovered is Phenomenology (the philosophy).
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Does the above quote reflect your reality as an empath? No need to answer but thanks if you do. |
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maya12-21-2012
User ID: 407782
7/28/2008 5:17 PM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
i dont have a general question off the bat
but i am interested in light/darkness for instance
since each side are polar opposites of another
do not dark beings work with light, if light is used in the sence of trying to improve 'raise'
a dark being would need 'raise' in order to expand
i.e.
if there is a light being trying to disalusion would that being need to be working with dark energy as well?? Quoting: whyidontknow
In this dimension, we need polarity and duality. The dark side is needed to raise consciousness through their fear-based mongering. Eventually, people get fed up with their policies and start seeking their own truth.
This is what it's all about, my friend...the spiritual journey! We eventually appreciate the dark side for providing us with the opportunity to rise above their anitcs as well as providing the opportunity for others to begin their spiritual journey. At this point, there is no more fear, just appreciation and gratitude for being alive at such a wonderous time!
Once you've eliminated fear and darkness, there's only love and light!
MySpace Page: [link to www.myspace.com]
2012 The Online Movie
[link to www.youtube.com] |
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nonmaterial structure
User ID: 376724
7/28/2008 5:20 PM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
Reading that quote confuses me LOL! Hold on , see if I can get it to make sense? |
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nonmaterial structure
User ID: 376724
7/28/2008 5:21 PM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
Intuition
Intuition in phenomenology refers to those cases where the intentional object is present in direct perception, where the intention is "filled," so to speak. For instance, having a cup of coffee in front of you, seeing it, feeling it - these are all filled intentions, and the object is then intuited. If you don't have the object in direct perception, as when you remember it or if you fantasise about it, the object is not intuited, but still intended. This also goes for "theoretical" objects like mathematical objects. Filled intentions about these kinds of objects can be such things as thought and imagination.
Lived-Body
The lived-body is your own body as experienced by yourself, as yourself. Your own body manifests itself to you mainly as your possibilities of acting in the world. It is what lets you reach out and grab something, for instance, but it also, and more importantly, allows for the possibility of changing your point of view. This helps you differentiate one thing from another by the experience of moving around it, seeing new aspects of it (often referred to as making the absent present and the present absent), and still retaining the notion that this is the same thing that you saw other aspects of just a moment ago (it is identical).
Empathy
In phenomenology, empathy refers to the experience of another human body as another subjectivity: You see another body, but you immediately perceive another subject. In Husserl's original account, this was done by apperception built on the experiences of your own lived-body which you experience in a dual way, both as object (you can touch your own hand) and as your own subjectivity (you are being touched). This experience of your own body as your own subjectivity is then applied to the experience of another's body, which, through apperception, is constituted as another subjectivity. This experience of empathy is important in the phenomenological account of intersubjectivity.
Lets see if it fits/reads better like this? |
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ViperThunder
User ID: 312619
7/28/2008 5:23 PM
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In this dimension, we need polarity and duality. The dark side is needed to raise consciousness through their fear-based mongering. Eventually, people get fed up with their policies and start seeking their own truth.
This is what it's all about, my friend...the spiritual journey! We eventually appreciate the dark side for providing us with the opportunity to rise above their anitcs as well as providing the opportunity for others to begin their spiritual journey. At this point, there is no more fear, just appreciation and gratitude for being alive at such a wonderous time! Quoting: maya12-21-2012
I agree!
Let There Be Peace |
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nonmaterial structure
User ID: 376724
7/28/2008 5:26 PM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
Seeing it, the only one that makes sense to me is the lived body description. The other two lack any reality of the experience, make it sound theoretical not actual.
Thanks for the empath imput xo. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 469767
7/28/2008 5:30 PM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
Hi Sireen-reborn,
Empath here
Brilliant for me you are that. Last week I found a new word which opened a whole new (to me) descriptive/thought concept. May I ask a favour? Does this description ring a bell with you?
Empathy
In phenomenology, empathy refers to the experience of another human body as another subjectivity: You see another body, but you immediately perceive another subject. In Husserl's original account, this was done by apperception built on the experiences of your own lived-body which you experience in a dual way, both as object (you can touch your own hand) and as your own subjectivity (you are being touched). This experience of your own body as your own subjectivity is then applied to the experience of another's body, which, through apperception, is constituted as another subjectivity. This experience of empathy is important in the phenomenological account of intersubjectivity.
The word I discovered is Phenomenology (the philosophy).
[ link to en.wikipedia.org]
Does the above quote reflect your reality as an empath? No need to answer but thanks if you do.
Hey~ I hope you don't mind if I reply here, as well?
I can relate to others easily, and I feel what I think are their feelings in different circumstances. But I don't know if it's a matter of feeling what they are feeling or if I'm projecting my feelings onto them. In other words, this is how "I" would feel if I went through the same experience. I don't know if that is empathetic or not??? Can you tell me? I can be the one who is touching and be the one who is touched in a blink of the eye. And yes, it is two different mind-sets.
Fascinating. Maybe it has something to do with the bicameral mind? |
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whyidontknow
User ID: 471651
7/28/2008 5:35 PM
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Hi Sireen-reborn,
Empath here
Brilliant for me you are that. Last week I found a new word which opened a whole new (to me) descriptive/thought concept. May I ask a favour? Does this description ring a bell with you?
Empathy
In phenomenology, empathy refers to the experience of another human body as another subjectivity: You see another body, but you immediately perceive another subject. In Husserl's original account, this was done by apperception built on the experiences of your own lived-body which you experience in a dual way, both as object (you can touch your own hand) and as your own subjectivity (you are being touched). This experience of your own body as your own subjectivity is then applied to the experience of another's body, which, through apperception, is constituted as another subjectivity. This experience of empathy is important in the phenomenological account of intersubjectivity.
The word I discovered is Phenomenology (the philosophy).
[ link to en.wikipedia.org]
Does the above quote reflect your reality as an empath? No need to answer but thanks if you do.
i know you did not pose this question towards me but i will respond
the defination from wiki you posted seemd to me to be based more on personal observation
in the true sence of empathy if a person is empathic they expereince the emotional/mental/spiritual vibration of enother internally
it is not done through their perception, as in relation
or comparison
some empaths cannot decipher between who and another that is the case for most people who become aware
it is a learning process of where you find out your placement vibrationally
learning how to handle your emotions both on a mental and spiritual level we are all empathic to some degree
how you handle your experiences determines your reality |
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Divinity
User ID: 474913
7/28/2008 5:40 PM
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i dont have a general question off the bat
but i am interested in light/darkness for instance
since each side are polar opposites of another
do not dark beings work with light, if light is used in the sence of trying to improve 'raise'
a dark being would need 'raise' in order to expand
i.e.
if there is a light being trying to disalusion would that being need to be working with dark energy as well?? Quoting: whyidontknow
Yes, if that Lightworker were strong enough to handle the dark energy. If not, then No. Let's not get too steeped in labels like dark and light..it's more a question of which side they want to represent and what they actually DO. i.e. one stands for expansion, love, unity, freedom and truth, and the other polarity stands for contraction, hierarchy, enslavement, division and truth for themselves.
Dark entities have enslaved humans over the years, but equally, humans have been stupid enough to either summon them for their own ends or use them to gain power. I believe all sides really want/need to be loved and they all get to that point eventually on their own or with help.
Dark 'energy' is a different matter. War zones, places of grief/sadness, historical disasters, etc, hold 'negative energy emotions/feelings'. This can be transmuted by focusing light onto that area (in physics terms, by using our thoughts to send standing waves/soliton waves to the area/vacuum of dark energy).
ALL positive thought is useful. No thought, word, deed is ever wasted in the attempt to achieve balance. This planet has been inbalanced for a very long time. Your average lightworker doesn't seek glory or success; she seeks balance in all things.
Does this help?
Thanks,
Love Div
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"Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin.
PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles."
Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info |
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