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| Divinity 
User ID: 474913
7/28/2008 9:38 PM
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i find it hard to connect with on a spiritual or innate level when topics like this are discussed
their always done from a certain view that is based in anothers belief
the topic needs to evolve mindsets need to evolve
your opinions dont matter what you see isnt real
and what you believe in doesnt exist Quoting: whyidontknow
Of course our opinions matter and what we believe in does exist, what we believe in becomes real for us.
How else do we learn unless we look at others' beliefs?
The point of there being more than one of us here is to learn from others, to share, to grow, isn't it?
Mindsets are evolving, every day...this Shift is happening.
Love Div
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"Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin.
PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info
"Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam, GLP |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 474817
7/28/2008 9:40 PM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
And I will continue to disagree with you. There is no UNNATURAL order and flow of things. All is ebb and flow, cyclical, rhythmic, perfect. It is only our own "perspective of experiential knowledge" that tends to see things as off-kilter and wishes to right things.....to fit neatly into OUR view.
The scales will ALWAYS be in balance. That's one of the natural laws. So please, carry on with you "Light Brigade"....because it WILL be balanced out with your "dark". As for me....my energy will continue to be given to ALL. For balance and rhythm.
No, the scales will always be in balance in the (Electric) Universe. On Earth, where we live in a protective bubble, it is not the case.
The Universe can accommodate the Earth's destruction quite comfortably. It's a self-regulating, self-sustaining system. Could the Earth accommodate the Universe's destruction? No, because the Universe is what supports us.
We are in a bubble for a reason. The energies on Earth are imbalanced which is why we have destructive weather patterns, earthquakes and violent natural reactions. The Universe, however, is harmonious and friendly to all life.
Divinity Quoting: Divinity
lol....you continue to separate this planet from the rest of the universe.....When it's not.
In another reply, you said to ask the people of Hiroshima. How about the balance of India and Africa vs North America? The depravity balances out the debauchery don't you think?
The earth is not separate from the harmony of existence....it's just that the spirit's choosing to live their existence here see it that way. |
| whyidontknow
User ID: 471651
7/28/2008 9:43 PM
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no this is a rambling and reinactment of what ive been expereincing my whole life
there is nothing new there is nothing different the same things are happening
change is not accuring
everyone is combating against each other this is not productive
i want to see something i havnt before, is the only way to do that by creating it in my own life?? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 474817
7/28/2008 9:48 PM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
no this is a rambling and reinactment of what ive been expereincing my whole life
there is nothing new there is nothing different the same things are happening
change is not accuring
everyone is combating against each other this is not productive
i want to see something i havnt before, is the only way to do that by creating it in my own life?? Quoting: whyidontknow
I'm not "combating", as you say. And you're right. The only change can come from within.
Within each and every individual at the time that they choose. And only when they are ready to make that change themselves. |
| Divinity
User ID: 474913
7/28/2008 9:53 PM
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lol....you continue to separate this planet from the rest of the universe.....When it's not.
In another reply, you said to ask the people of Hiroshima. How about the balance of India and Africa vs North America? The depravity balances out the debauchery don't you think?
The earth is not separate from the harmony of existence....it's just that the spirit's choosing to live their existence here see it that way. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 474817
Yes, I do, because the Universe is the unified aetheric field in the form of plasma. 0.01% of the Universe, i.e. Earth, is not entirely plasma-based; it's carbon-based. We have an entirely separate atmosphere, a Schumann Resonance and a completely different 'vibration' (in spiritual terms). That doesn't mean the Godforce doesn't permeate everywhere; what it means is we are allowed to interfere with all elements (until the Universe draws the line).
We have an eco-system here which supports life, which is not the same as out there, beyond the stratosphere.
Why????
Yes, how about the imbalance of the people in India, Africa, Indonesia, South America, etc. etc. etc.? How about the imbalance of 2% of the population 'owning' 90% of the world's resources?
How about the imbalance of one third being obese when two thirds are starving?
This is not my Universe...is it yours?
Div
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"Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin.
PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info
"Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam, GLP |
| whyidontknow
User ID: 471651
7/28/2008 9:55 PM
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divinity why do you continue to provoke people are you not suppose to be about love/light
what you are doing is not of love/light
why are you doing it??????? |
| Divinity
User ID: 474913
7/28/2008 9:59 PM
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no this is a rambling and reinactment of what ive been expereincing my whole life
there is nothing new there is nothing different the same things are happening
change is not accuring
everyone is combating against each other this is not productive
i want to see something i havnt before, is the only way to do that by creating it in my own life?? Quoting: whyidontknow
No...what you are witnessing here is new information. Have you read what I'm saying in any spiritual book?
God is Everything which isn't you, change is not from within, information comes at you from the living universe, constantly. Yes, you can change from within BUT information to support you (in the form of energy/pictures/ideas/influences/inspiration) comes to you from your Universe. And the information coming in now, is NEW, it's about how we start to become coherent again, how we start to co-create the Golden Age coming.
If you wish to see something you haven't seen before, ask your God...It will show you, no effort at all. But will you be listening/watching? Do you know the language It speaks?
Debate is natural, it's what helps us to grow. It's not combat.
Div
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"Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin.
PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info
"Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam, GLP |
| Divinity
User ID: 474913
7/28/2008 10:02 PM
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divinity why do you continue to provoke people are you not suppose to be about love/light
what you are doing is not of love/light
why are you doing it??????? Quoting: whyidontknow
Yes, I'm about light, love and knowledge. I am not doing the provoking. If you hadn't noticed, I'm the one doing the responding.
Sharing knowledge is as much light and love as a hug. Why am I doing it??? Because I love you. Why else would I do it?
Div
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"Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin.
PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info
"Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam, GLP |
| Wasayo nli
User ID: 475096
7/28/2008 10:03 PM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
What is the purpose of neutral? LOL! It allows for existence to just BE! It allows for the NATURAL order and flow of things. IMO....not enough on this planet are willing to allow for this. They all want to change things to be more in tune with their perspective, rather than changing their own perspective to align with what IS.
I disagree. Too many on this planet have allowed the UNNATURAL order and flow of things because they have stood by and watched the ebb and flow of chaos, due to boredom, laziness or impotency to act. If we were trees, I would agree with you. We are sentient free-willers who have choice. What IS has always been here and always will be. The question is whether we decide to go with what is rather than against it.
That's where 'taking sides' comes in. In order to restore what IS in its natural order, the scales have to be rebalanced, IMO.
Div
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You may disagree with the "neutral" part, and I also think being neutral is a cop-out, of sorts. But, the part that makes sense to me is that people want to change things to be more in tune with their own perspective, rather than change their perspective to be in-tune with what IS.
For instance, on the LW thread, Wasayo wants YOU to change your perspective because her perspective is that YOU get triggered. Little does her perspective allow for the idea that SHE and Darza are the ones triggering you on purpose. So, she will continue to act like she is the victim, and hope by saying it enough, people will see HER perspective. What IS, is that she and Darza purposefully bait you.
See how people change things to be in-tune with their own perspective, instead of the other way around?
Gee whiz, AC 767...
Just a day or two ago you were praising me on Divinity's LW thread and on Allie's Healing Place thread too.
Here you sure are dissing me big-time ~ singing quite the different tune. And dissing Darza along with me, I might add. Interesting.
No, I do not want to change Divinity and I've given up hope that she will ever listen to me. Neither Divinity nor I can change each other ~ and neither of us wants to... for sure not me.
So take a look at your own mirror, okey-dokey? You have misinterpreted my words through your own lens ~ and passed harsh judgment on me.
Do you really know where you stand?
I'm not asking you to choose between Divinity and myself ~ that is simplistic and would serve nothing.
What I am asking you to do is... find yourself. Be your own guru. Sincerely, Wasayo |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 475051
7/28/2008 10:04 PM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
divinity why do you continue to provoke people are you not suppose to be about love/light
what you are doing is not of love/light
why are you doing it??????? Quoting:
whyidontknow, YOU'RE A FUCKING IDIOT! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 474817
7/28/2008 10:04 PM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
lol....you continue to separate this planet from the rest of the universe.....When it's not.
In another reply, you said to ask the people of Hiroshima. How about the balance of India and Africa vs North America? The depravity balances out the debauchery don't you think?
The earth is not separate from the harmony of existence....it's just that the spirit's choosing to live their existence here see it that way.
Yes, I do, because the Universe is the unified aetheric field in the form of plasma. 0.01% of the Universe, i.e. is not plasma. We have an entirely separate atmosphere, a Schumann Resonance and a completely different 'vibration' (in spiritual terms). That doesn't mean the Godforce doesn't permeate everywhere; what it means is we are allowed to interfere with all elements (until the Universe draws the line).
We have an eco-system here which supports life, which is not the same as out there, beyond the stratosphere.
Why????
Yes, how about the imbalance of the people in India, Africa, Indonesia, South America, etc. etc. etc.? How about the imbalance of 2% of the population 'owning' 90% of the world's resources?
How about the imbalance of one third being obese when two thirds are starving?
This is not my Universe...is it yours?
Div
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It IS what it IS. It is a world that we chose to manifest in for our physical journey. So in that respect, yes. It is my universe.
And in this universe, I can choose to try to understand the journey of souls rather than try to manipulate it. I can have compassion for the soul starving in Africa. And at the same time, I can have compassion for the soul consumed by greed.
I can even have compassion for those that feel the need to manipulate and control others....for their road is a long and arduous one. But their road is theirs. Not mine. |
| whyidontknow
User ID: 471651
7/28/2008 10:05 PM
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well i tried to make an intelligent thread |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 475103
7/28/2008 10:10 PM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
whatever you see
in others is within each of us
at some level and seen
or understood as those
layers are revealed. |
| Divinity
User ID: 474913
7/28/2008 10:10 PM
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It IS what it IS. It is a world that we chose to manifest in for our physical journey. So in that respect, yes. It is my universe.
And in this universe, I can choose to try to understand the journey of souls rather than try to manipulate it. I can have compassion for the soul starving in Africa. And at the same time, I can have compassion for the soul consumed by greed.
I can even have compassion for those that feel the need to manipulate and control others....for their road is a long and arduous one. But their road is theirs. Not mine. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 474817
Sure, and I respect that. You choose to undertand the journey of souls and I choose to understand where we actually are. We are all pieces of the puzzle in the grand scheme of things.
May Spirit light your path, AC, and thanks for the discussion.
love Div
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widk, it's a great thread...you did GOOD.
"Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin.
PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info
"Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam, GLP |
| Wasayo nli
User ID: 475096
7/28/2008 10:10 PM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
no this is a rambling and reinactment of what ive been expereincing my whole life
there is nothing new there is nothing different the same things are happening
change is not accuring
everyone is combating against each other this is not productive
i want to see something i havnt before, is the only way to do that by creating it in my own life?? Quoting: whyidontknow
Dear widk,
And such, sadly, is human nature...
As to my comments which follow, please take what resonates and leave the rest.
For me personally, my sense is that spiritual things are not just theories of the mind ~ cuz theories are endless... just like opinions. The human mind never stops chattering.
Spiritual truth is not an opinion.
Spiritual truth is not an argument.
Spiritual truth is not "my light is greater than your light".
For me personally, spirituality is something you LIVE... in real 3-D life, every single moment of every single day.
It is not "cut&paste enlightenment" of somebody else's words ~ although they can be uplifting at the time.
What I sense, widk... is that you are asking others ~ but the dissonance of the answers is disturbing to your gentle field.
This tells me that you may need to look within yourself ~ and be your own guru. You already know your own answers, because you react to what disturbs you.
"Outter authorities" ~ those you look to for answers ~ will never agree because it's all mindstuff... and what the mind can think up is neverending. Emotions and feelings can be even more of a trap.
You're doing great stuff by starting this thread. Thank you. Wasayo |
| Wasayo nli
User ID: 475096
7/28/2008 10:16 PM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
i find it hard to connect with on a spiritual or innate level when topics like this are discussed
their always done from a certain view that is based in anothers belief
the topic needs to evolve mindsets need to evolve
your opinions dont matter what you see isnt real
and what you believe in doesnt exist Quoting: whyidontknow
My sense is that you are right, widk ~ opinions are not spirituality. Nor is true spirituality... beliefs.
To me, and your mileage may vary... true spirituality is a state of Being ~ just like joy, love, and abundance.
It simply IS... and it simply flows.
Bless you, Wasayo |
| whyidontknow
User ID: 471651
7/28/2008 10:17 PM
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yah thx for clearing the air wasayo |
| Divinity
User ID: 474913
7/28/2008 10:22 PM
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So, Wasayo does your famous 'be your own guru' extend to suggesting that people do not access books, other people's opinions, videos or other external sources?
And are you saying you receive nothing external from the Creator at all, in the way of information/inspiration?
Div
"Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin.
PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info
"Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam, GLP |
| Wasayo
Astrologer & Psychic
User ID: 379765
7/28/2008 10:22 PM
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Intuition
Intuition in phenomenology refers to those cases where the intentional object is present in direct perception, where the intention is "filled," so to speak. For instance, having a cup of coffee in front of you, seeing it, feeling it - these are all filled intentions, and the object is then intuited. If you don't have the object in direct perception, as when you remember it or if you fantasise about it, the object is not intuited, but still intended. This also goes for "theoretical" objects like mathematical objects. Filled intentions about these kinds of objects can be such things as thought and imagination.
Lived-Body
The lived-body is your own body as experienced by yourself, as yourself. Your own body manifests itself to you mainly as your possibilities of acting in the world. It is what lets you reach out and grab something, for instance, but it also, and more importantly, allows for the possibility of changing your point of view. This helps you differentiate one thing from another by the experience of moving around it, seeing new aspects of it (often referred to as making the absent present and the present absent), and still retaining the notion that this is the same thing that you saw other aspects of just a moment ago (it is identical).
Empathy
In phenomenology, empathy refers to the experience of another human body as another subjectivity: You see another body, but you immediately perceive another subject. In Husserl's original account, this was done by apperception built on the experiences of your own lived-body which you experience in a dual way, both as object (you can touch your own hand) and as your own subjectivity (you are being touched). This experience of your own body as your own subjectivity is then applied to the experience of another's body, which, through apperception, is constituted as another subjectivity. This experience of empathy is important in the phenomenological account of intersubjectivity.
Lets see if it fits/reads better like this? Quoting: nonmaterial structure 376724
heh heh... I love phenomenology and Edmund Husserls! Thank you.
Um... prolly I glaze over when I see the word "phenomenology" cuz I had the SEXIEST prof ever teaching philosophy... from the University of Madrid ~ and this was his fave, lol.
widk, I would agree with you on empathy ~ it is not really a function of the mind.
My experience has been that empathy is when you feel what the other is feeling ~ you walk inside his or her skin, so to speak.
Empathy, telepathy, all these things are difficult for the bicameral, linear mind... caught in the 3-D timeline.
I have found that, in order for these two to "happen"... you have to be in a let-go state of consciousness ~ where you are not thinking only your own thoughts, feeling only your own feelings. You have to step aside.
Interesting that you say you have done the psychic thing, widk... and moved on into energy.
If you wanna, I'd like to pursue this with you. As a psychic, all I "see" is energy... energy fields or auras. I never (well, hardly ever, lol) see the literal physical person.
We are all overlapping fields... with each other ~ and with everything in the cosmos. This has been my personal experience. Wasayo
"Wealth or poverty depends on the absence or presence of desires, respectively. He who has no desires is rich. He who does not desire anything is sovereign." Maharaj Sawan Singh Ji |
| Divinity
User ID: 474913
7/28/2008 10:28 PM
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Did that come from 'within', Wasayo?
Div
"Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin.
PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info
"Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam, GLP |
| Divinity
User ID: 474913
7/28/2008 10:33 PM
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Wasayo said:
>>Spiritual truth is not an opinion.
Spiritual truth is not an argument.
Spiritual truth is not "my light is greater than your light".>>
Spiritual Truth is Universal Truth. Universal Truth is generic. You either know it or you don't know it. You can believe, live, act, meditate, worship or whatever you wish to do, but unless you know generic truth, you will never understand it.
Light is merely an EFFECT of Love.
Love = Knowledge = Energy = Information.
You cannot have one light brighter than another.
You have been saying this for over a year, Wasayo.
I have never said my light is greater than your light so I have no idea where you get this idea from.
Div
"Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin.
PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info
"Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam, GLP |
| Wasayo
Astrologer & Psychic
User ID: 379765
7/28/2008 10:35 PM
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So, Wasayo does your famous 'be your own guru' extend to suggesting that people do not access books, other people's opinions, videos or other external sources?
And are you saying you receive nothing external from the Creator at all, in the way of information/inspiration?
Div Quoting: Divinity
Dear Divinity,
Nothing is really an "either/or". You are baiting me to say "NO books, no channeled stuff" and only go within.
What I am saying is that balance is the key.
Even Stuart Wilde, whom you referenced and thus introduced me to... even he said that much of his wisdom was gained when HE went within and into a trance state.
He didn't read books in a trance state.
You are saying "either/or/only"... outer wisdom ~ or going within.
It's not that simple. Just my personal "take" here, and ymmv. And it sure does. (wink) Wasayo
"Wealth or poverty depends on the absence or presence of desires, respectively. He who has no desires is rich. He who does not desire anything is sovereign." Maharaj Sawan Singh Ji |
| Divinity
User ID: 474913
7/28/2008 10:37 PM
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Wasayo said:
>>I have found that, in order for these two to "happen"... you have to be in a let-go state of consciousness ~ where you are not thinking only your own thoughts, feeling only your own feelings. You have to step aside.>>
You have to step aside and think whose thoughts/feelings?
Or do you mean you step aside and think/feel nothing?
Div
"Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin.
PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info
"Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam, GLP |
| Wasayo
Astrologer & Psychic
User ID: 379765
7/28/2008 10:37 PM
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Did that come from 'within', Wasayo?
Div Quoting: Divinity
Did your words come from within, Divinity?
Methinks your energy is VERY angry today... raging.
Peace out,
Wasayo
"Wealth or poverty depends on the absence or presence of desires, respectively. He who has no desires is rich. He who does not desire anything is sovereign." Maharaj Sawan Singh Ji |
| Divinity
User ID: 474913
7/28/2008 10:40 PM
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So, Wasayo does your famous 'be your own guru' extend to suggesting that people do not access books, other people's opinions, videos or other external sources?
And are you saying you receive nothing external from the Creator at all, in the way of information/inspiration?
Div
Dear Divinity,
Nothing is really an "either/or". You are baiting me to say "NO books, no channeled stuff" and only go within.
What I am saying is that balance is the key.
Even Stuart Wilde, whom you referenced and thus introduced me to... even he said that much of his wisdom was gained when HE went within and into a trance state.
He didn't read books in a trance state.
You are saying "either/or/only"... outer wisdom ~ or going within.
It's not that simple. Just my personal "take" here, and ymmv. And it sure does. (wink) Wasayo Quoting: Wasayo
No, you are saying 'be your own guru' and don't listen to others' opinions.
Going into a trance state enables you to become a better RECEIVER. It doesn't mean you are channelling yourself.
Which is it to be? External or internal?
Either or?
Outer wisdom or inner?
Div
"Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin.
PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info
"Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam, GLP |
| Wasayo
Astrologer & Psychic
User ID: 379765
7/28/2008 10:42 PM
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"Spiritual Truth is Universal Truth. Universal Truth is generic. You either know it or you don't know it." [Quoting Divinity]
Obviously, Divinity...you are saying that YOU know it.
Am I right that you are saying that I (or anyone else) doesn't "know it" if we don't believe in your favorite scientific theories ~ the Aether Physics Model or the Electric Universe Theory?
Cuz YOU have it all figured out... with others' scientific theories and words you have read?
Your superiority complex is pretty much overwhelming here, Div. True spirituality is not an argument.
Look, you can't ram your truth down other people's throats.
That's just the reality of life. Wasayo
"Wealth or poverty depends on the absence or presence of desires, respectively. He who has no desires is rich. He who does not desire anything is sovereign." Maharaj Sawan Singh Ji |
| Divinity
User ID: 474913
7/28/2008 10:42 PM
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Did that come from 'within', Wasayo?
Div
Did your words come from within, Divinity?
Methinks your energy is VERY angry today... raging.
Peace out,
Wasayo Quoting: Wasayo
No, my words don't necessarily come from within, that's my point.
My anger does, haha, for sure. In this case, I'm not angry - I'm curious.
You seem to tell everyone how it is. I want to know how it is from your perspective, and why.
Div
"Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin.
PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info
"Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam, GLP |
| whyidontknow
User ID: 471651
7/28/2008 10:43 PM
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i have never been one to see auras and when you say you dont see people in the phsycal sence i suppose i can understand that
because to me everyone has a unique signiture
but the energy is senced not seen with 'eyes'
i am still somewhat psychic i dont like to call it that or refer to it as that because it just seems like an extension of who i am now- tho it used to bother me alot and it was not easy to let go but i had to move on (some aspects of it still remain)
energy manifests in different ways and at certain points in your life you can choose to uplift certain things or let them remain
ive always tried to face what it is i fear or what i need to- and tried not to let my inhibitions limit me or self doubt |
| Divinity
User ID: 474913
7/28/2008 10:48 PM
| | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
"Spiritual Truth is Universal Truth. Universal Truth is generic. You either know it or you don't know it." [Quoting Divinity]
Obviously, Divinity...you are saying that YOU know it.
Am I right that you are saying that I (or anyone else) doesn't "know it" if we don't believe in your favorite scientific theories ~ the Aether Physics Model or the Electric Universe Theory?
Cuz YOU have it all figured out... with others' scientific theories and words you have read?
Your superiority complex is pretty much overwhelming here, Div. True spirituality is not an argument.
Look, you can't ram your truth down other people's throats.
That's just the reality of life. Wasayo Quoting: Wasayo
I'm not arguing - I'm asking you to reinforce your wild statements.
Yes, I do know it because I'm very fortunate enough to experience it. Ditto to 'your truth .....throats'. What you did tonight is what you always do. You attempt to undo/undermine what I try to do. This is the first, last and only time I have done to you, what you do to me regularly. Perhaps you might like to note that.
As I said to you and Darza earlier, "mission accomplished", eh?
Div
"Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin.
PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info
"Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam, GLP |
| Wasayo nli
User ID: 298911
7/28/2008 11:45 PM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
So, Wasayo does your famous 'be your own guru' extend to suggesting that people do not access books, other people's opinions, videos or other external sources?
And are you saying you receive nothing external from the Creator at all, in the way of information/inspiration?
Div Quoting: Divinity
Divinity,
My "famous be your own guru" statement, as you put it... is really quite straightforward.
This is my meaning, and it works for me.
By "Be your own guru" I mean that whatever a person hears, whatever a person reads... whatever inner (going within) experiences a person has ~ the important thing is to *discover one's own truth*... and to discern.
"Be your own guru" also means take what resonates with you, and leave the rest.
Again, I don't mean "either/or"... outer or inner like a belly button.
Hope this helps. Wasayo |
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