|
| |
| | Page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15 | psychics and lightworkers
| Wasayo nli
User ID: 379765
7/28/2008 11:55 PM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
"Spiritual Truth is Universal Truth. Universal Truth is generic. You either know it or you don't know it." [Quoting Divinity]
Obviously, Divinity...you are saying that YOU know it.
Am I right that you are saying that I (or anyone else) doesn't "know it" if we don't believe in your favorite scientific theories ~ the Aether Physics Model or the Electric Universe Theory?
Cuz YOU have it all figured out... with others' scientific theories and words you have read?
Your superiority complex is pretty much overwhelming here, Div. True spirituality is not an argument.
Look, you can't ram your truth down other people's throats.
That's just the reality of life. Wasayo
I'm not arguing - I'm asking you to reinforce your wild statements.
Yes, I do know it because I'm very fortunate enough to experience it. Ditto to 'your truth .....throats'. What you did tonight is what you always do. You attempt to undo/undermine what I try to do. This is the first, last and only time I have done to you, what you do to me regularly. Perhaps you might like to note that.
As I said to you and Darza earlier, "mission accomplished", eh?
Div Quoting: Divinity
Divinity, you are saying, and I quote:
[Quoting Divinity]
"As I said to you and Darza earlier, "mission accomplished", eh?
Div" [Quoting Divinity]
*Divinity, this is NOT your thread.
This thread was started by whyidon'tknow for everybody.
People giving other viewpoints are not "against you". And you ARE angry and raging. Yes, you are.
*Divinity, this thread is not all about YOU.*
If any good comes out of our interplay here today, I hope it is that people out there look to themselves for answers and that we have illustrated two facets of a many-sided crystal for their consideration.
Darza isn't even here... and "mission accomplished" were your own words when you called Darza and me, and Lotus Feet, your greatest trolls on your LW thread today. Then you encouraged floydian slip to troll me on the GLP main forum... and Ahim-sa came in on it too.
Next thing, you'll have Ahim-sa and floydian, and maybe caruso ~ your Knights of the Round Table ~ come in here on widk's thread... which is NOT YOUR THREAD ~ and really finish me off.
Trying to discern truth... and understanding psychics and lightworkers is what I sense that widk wanted this thread to be all about.
Ya think? Wasayo |
| *~Cosmo~@5thNight*
User ID: 473802
7/28/2008 11:57 PM
 | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
u arrivin there gils
Jesuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuussssssssssssssssssssssss
arguments are powerfull tools
for some reason we stronger and stronger
same time
we need to develop
carismatic compaisson
not competition
Time is Art
WE ARE ONE
ONENESS
[link to profile.myspace.com] |
| Wasayo nli
User ID: 379765
7/29/2008 12:04 AM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
i have never been one to see auras and when you say you dont see people in the phsycal sence i suppose i can understand that
because to me everyone has a unique signiture
but the energy is senced not seen with 'eyes'
i am still somewhat psychic i dont like to call it that or refer to it as that because it just seems like an extension of who i am now- tho it used to bother me alot and it was not easy to let go but i had to move on (some aspects of it still remain)
energy manifests in different ways and at certain points in your life you can choose to uplift certain things or let them remain
ive always tried to face what it is i fear or what i need to- and tried not to let my inhibitions limit me or self doubt Quoting: whyidontknow
Dear whyidon'tknow,
I'm sensing that I'm pretty much like you in that when I "see" auras ~ I don't actually really see them. For me, it's more like a heat image/mirage in the hot desert ~ and I mostly sense auras or feel them.
Some people are very gifted and can see the colors, but I am not able to do this.
I've always said that I "read energy fields" because this is what I clairvoyantly "see", not the discrete physical body.
But, my friend the excellent psychic Amazsha stated that she "reads auras" ~ and I suddenly realized that we are talking about the same thing. To me, it is an "energy field" and to Amazsha, it is "an aura".
Yes indeed, widk... I too clairvoyantly "see" that all of our energy fields are unique ~ just like no two snowflakes are alike. We each have our unique sine wave signature.
And yet, even though we retain our individuality, we are "all one within The One" ~ we are a facet of the greater Hologram of Life which contains us all... contains all the "auric snowflakes".
Hope this has clarified for you a tad of what has been my personal experience. Thanks infinitely for sharing yours... Wasayo |
| Skipper1975
User ID: 448826
7/29/2008 12:07 AM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
i dont have a general question off the bat
but i am interested in light/darkness for instance
since each side are polar opposites of another
do not dark beings work with light, if light is used in the sence of trying to improve 'raise'
a dark being would need 'raise' in order to expand
i.e.
if there is a light being trying to disalusion would that being need to be working with dark energy as well?? Quoting: whyidontknow
[link to www.nibiruancouncil.com]
(^_*)
[link to www.myspace.com]
[link to lightworkers.org] |
| floydian slip
User ID: 1338
7/29/2008 12:10 AM
 | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
Methinks your energy is VERY angry today... raging.
Peace out,
Wasayo Quoting: Wasayo
Every time you point a finger there are 3 pointing back at you.
egamirorrim |
| Wasayo nli
User ID: 12237
7/29/2008 12:20 AM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
  whyidon'tknow
Heya, I just got a prediction right ~ here's floydian slip, one of Divinity's Knights ~ here trolling me, just like I said he would be.
Hope your thread doesn't get totally hijacked by Div's faithful flock, whyidon'tknow. It's a great thread.
Blessings to you,
Wasayo |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1338
7/29/2008 12:29 AM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
whyidon'tknow
Heya, I just got a prediction right ~ here's floydian slip, one of Divinity's Knights ~ here trolling me, just like I said he would be.
Hope your thread doesn't get totally hijacked by Div's faithful flock, whyidon'tknow. It's a great thread.
Blessings to you,
Wasayo Quoting: Wasayo nli 12237
LOL wow a first!!!! Wasayo got a prediction right haha
It seems you have a lot of fans(not) Wasayo, ever ask yourself why?
Why dont I have this problem? Is it because I am not a meddling loudmouth?
BTW, saying "Every time you point a finger there are 3 pointing back at you." is not trolling. It is a fact. Care to debunk it?
Here is an example of trolling...
floydian, you put the shampoo bottle in to far and now it is irritating me and my man is getting jealous. Please pull it out of my ass, you know how i get. Quoting: Wizzaro
see the difference? |
| whyidontknow 
User ID: 471651
7/29/2008 12:29 AM
 | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
hey cosmo5thknight wuttup??
lol wasayo the way i see it is they only exist if you interact with them
you got any questions floydian slip??
anything on your mind you wanna know |
| floydian slip
User ID: 1338
7/29/2008 12:35 AM
| | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
hey cosmo5thknight wuttup??
lol wasayo the way i see it is they only exist if you interact with them
you got any questions floydian slip??
anything on your mind you wanna know Quoting: whyidontknow
Do you like the 'Talking Heads'? |
| Wasayo nli
User ID: 355630
7/29/2008 1:50 AM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
hey cosmo5thknight wuttup??
lol wasayo the way i see it is they only exist if you interact with them
you got any questions floydian slip??
anything on your mind you wanna know Quoting: whyidontknow
The problem is, widk...
I can't be on any thread ~ or even on the GLP general forum ~ without them (floydian slip and Ahim-sa) trolling, stalking, and attacking me.
I refuse to be run off GLP by Divinity's Knights of the Round Table or by Div.
If I reply, I am attacked. If I ignore, I am attacked. Whatever I do... wherever I go, I am attacked.
I am not a victim as floydian taunts, because I will not give up. I have a right to be on GLP.
No, I do not intend to go back to the non-lightworkers thread... but I do have a right to be on your thread, on others, and on the general forum.
Today floydian has called me every hurtful and evil name in the book on Divinity's LW thread ~ "mentally ill"... "forum virus" among others ~ and it's only natural, I think, for me to be feeling some pain. floydian excuses himself by saying this is not trolling. It is.
That should make him feel real good and satisfied with himself ~ Div too. Nice (not!) Wasayo |
| maya2012
User ID: 407782
7/29/2008 2:13 AM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
So, Wasayo does your famous 'be your own guru' extend to suggesting that people do not access books, other people's opinions, videos or other external sources?
And are you saying you receive nothing external from the Creator at all, in the way of information/inspiration?
Div
Dear Divinity,
Nothing is really an "either/or". You are baiting me to say "NO books, no channeled stuff" and only go within.
What I am saying is that balance is the key.
Even Stuart Wilde, whom you referenced and thus introduced me to... even he said that much of his wisdom was gained when HE went within and into a trance state.
He didn't read books in a trance state.
You are saying "either/or/only"... outer wisdom ~ or going within.
It's not that simple. Just my personal "take" here, and ymmv. And it sure does. (wink) Wasayo Quoting: Wasayo
You're both right! Be your own guru is correct the way wasayo is explaining it by asking yourself for the inner truths.
Div is right because, in most every case, something led us to be inspired to look within.
IMO, we need duality in this existence for contrast. Duality doesn't seem like it would be something that is needed in the Golden Age, so at that point, would there be neutrality and would we need darkness?
Are you ready to go home to 5-D Earth?
[link to www.youtube.com]
Banking Collapse Announces the Beginning of the Golden Age
[link to www.youtube.com]
MySpace Page: [link to www.myspace.com] |
| howdoiknow
User ID: 428596
7/29/2008 2:37 AM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
hey cosmo5thknight wuttup??
lol wasayo the way i see it is they only exist if you interact with them
you got any questions floydian slip??
anything on your mind you wanna know
The problem is, widk...
I can't be on any thread ~ or even on the GLP general forum ~ without them (floydian slip and Ahim-sa) trolling, stalking, and attacking me.
I refuse to be run off GLP by Divinity's Knights of the Round Table or by Div.
If I reply, I am attacked. If I ignore, I am attacked. Whatever I do... wherever I go, I am attacked.
I am not a victim as floydian taunts, because I will not give up. I have a right to be on GLP.
No, I do not intend to go back to the non-lightworkers thread... but I do have a right to be on your thread, on others, and on the general forum.
Today floydian has called me every hurtful and evil name in the book on Divinity's LW thread ~ "mentally ill"... "forum virus" among others ~ and it's only natural, I think, for me to be feeling some pain. floydian excuses himself by saying this is not trolling. It is.
That should make him feel real good and satisfied with
himself ~ Div too. Nice (not!) Wasayo Quoting: Wasayo nli 355630
ahh the attacker is trying to look like the attacked
nice try, but I'm not buying it
 |
| nonmaterial structure
User ID: 376724
7/29/2008 6:29 AM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
no this is a rambling and reinactment of what ive been expereincing my whole life
there is nothing new there is nothing different the same things are happening
change is not accuring
everyone is combating against each other this is not productive
i want to see something i havnt before, is the only way to do that by creating it in my own life?? Quoting: whyidontknow
Ha ha whyidintknow, well, either you create a subject that, by it`s nature effects all, that has never been heard by all or any before or create your own reality and make no attempt to share with another.
Personaly I went the "everybodies in the wrong universe" route but only recently (16 months). Prior to that I balanced all a little, to keep myself content, interacted at minium level knowing, I would leave when I wished, as if I had never been.
Your interpretation of the generic information that is the substance of our living reality is the key. Any interpretation heard/known before will not provide the commonality and possibility of leading to a harmonic, yet with highly varied interpretations of the same generic truths that, by their and those infinite interpretations nature , allow us to conduct peaceful, happy and exciting coexistence with ourselves and the universe within which we reside.
I suggest you allow some time for yourself to conduct one to one interactions (mental) with one other whom is interested in either your knew interpretation or you in theirs, whom has the capacity to do exactly what you say you can do.
i find it hard to connect with on a spiritual or innate level when topics like this are discussed
their always done from a certain view that is based in anothers belief
the topic needs to evolve mindsets need to evolve
your opinions dont matter what you see isnt real
and what you believe in doesnt exist Quoting: whyidontknow
That is a beautiful state of existance within which the generic information thrives/blossoms, infact the generic information forces this infinitly manifesting changing existance.
Feels to me whyidontknow you have all the ingrediants hence your mental "playmates" will allready have picked you up and have show you they exist , up to you what comes next as it always is , free will. |
| Divinity
User ID: 475252
7/29/2008 7:47 AM
 | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
quoting WASAYO:
>>And yet, even though we retain our individuality, we are "all one within The One" ~ we are a facet of the greater Hologram of Life which contains us all... contains all the "auric snowflakes".>>
Hologram of Life? Perhaps you could tell us a bit more about his hologram, Wasayo. Is it real or an illusion?
Divinity
"Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin.
PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info
"Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam, GLP |
| Divinity
User ID: 475252
7/29/2008 7:50 AM
| | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
Ha ha whyidintknow, well, either you create a subject that, by it`s nature effects all, that has never been heard by all or any before or create your own reality and make no attempt to share with another.
Personaly I went the "everybodies in the wrong universe" route but only recently (16 months). Prior to that I balanced all a little, to keep myself content, interacted at minium level knowing, I would leave when I wished, as if I had never been.
Your interpretation of the generic information that is the substance of our living reality is the key. Any interpretation heard/known before will not provide the commonality and possibility of leading to a harmonic, yet with highly varied interpretations of the same generic truths that, by their and those infinite interpretations nature , allow us to conduct peaceful, happy and exciting coexistence with ourselves and the universe within which we reside.
I suggest you allow some time for yourself to conduct one to one interactions (mental) with one other whom is interested in either your new interpretation or you in theirs, whom has the capacity to do exactly what you say you can do.
That is a beautiful state of existance within which the generic information thrives/blossoms, infact the generic information forces this infinitly manifesting changing existance.
Feels to me whyidontknow you have all the ingrediants hence your mental "playmates" will allready have picked you up and have show you they exist , up to you what comes next as it always is , free will. Quoting: nonmaterial structure 376724
Beautiful, thank you..
Divinity
"Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin.
PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info
"Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam, GLP |
| Darza
User ID: 378572
7/29/2008 8:17 AM
 | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
well i tried to make an intelligent thread Quoting: whyidontknow
Hi Whyidontknow,
I just read 4 pages and saw some very inspiring posts. Myself i am a student of universal
energy, i especially like the posters who share from beyond the good-bad/pain-pleasure cycle. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 472494
7/29/2008 9:44 AM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
I've read through all posts and there's one thing I'd like to point out concerning coupling darkness and evilness: they are not neccesarily one and the same.
It can get to be a real slippery slope when one lumps together darkness and evilness. It is my experience that The Void is a "dark" place, and that it's also a neutral realm. I find it to be the foundational floor of the Field of Potential. Where there is potential, then all possibilities exist...it's what one does (action) and one feels (intention) that creates the reality within the darkness.
Darkness, as a quality, is not inherently "bad", rather it's our conditioning that might make it so, both in definition and experience.
An example:
When I am free floating in The Void there is darkness all around me, yet I'm calm and feel no inherent fear. I do not feel the need to constantly look over my shoulder for evil at my back. I find it a place to rest, even rejuvenate myself, OUTSIDE of the dualistic nature of 3D.
I once told this to a friend. He shuddered and told me that The Void scares the heck out of him. That he doesn't trust what he can't see without illumination.
Well, there's matter that can't be seen, even in the light.
Where light is often understood as an ambient quality (not unlike electric light) I'll offer that it is not actually that. Light is knowledge, and knowledge is not a quality that comes from the flip of a switch...so to speak.
Why do you think it is that so called "light workers" with all there bright light shining still find themselves contending with evil? How many times have you heard a light worker say that they had to fight off this demon or that negative entity while in altered states and closest to their light bodies?
It's because the quality of their light is not Light, it's to some degree lacking knowledgeability. If you fill an empty room with light does it illuminate anything?
They do not yet knowledgably understand the nature of duality and perception...whether one is in a space of lightness or darkness it is what is within the consciousness that creates the quality of what manifests outside one's consciousness...what is ultimately experienced in that moment.
To be a Light Worker, one that vibrates from a place of knowledge, doesn't even mean that one is "shining brightly" while doing their energy work.
Another example, a little story about an energy work session regarding a Psychic Vampire, a friend of mine under attack by the vamp, and me, is one that was undeniable food for thought for me about the difference between little-l and big-L energy work (and hopefully will be for you also)--
Oh brother, I have some major T-storms in my area right now. I'll have to come back later to finish this post...:) |
| nonmaterial structure
User ID: 376724
7/29/2008 10:03 AM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
Hi, Ac:472494,
I've read through all posts and there's one thing I'd like to point out concerning coupling darkness and evilness: they are not neccesarily one and the same.
It can get to be a real slippery slope when one lumps together darkness and evilness. It is my experience that The Void is a "dark" place, and that it's also a neutral realm. I find it to be the foundational floor of the Field of Potential. Where there is potential, then all possibilities exist...it's what one does (action) and one feels (intention) that creates the reality within the darkness.
Darkness, as a quality, is not inherently "bad", rather it's our conditioning that might make it so, both in definition and experience.
An example:
When I am free floating in The Void there is darkness all around me, yet I'm calm and feel no inherent fear. I do not feel the need to constantly look over my shoulder for evil at my back. I find it a place to rest, even rejuvenate myself, OUTSIDE of the dualistic nature of 3D.
I once told this to a friend. He shuddered and told me that The Void scares the heck out of him. That he doesn't trust what he can't see without illumination.
Well, there's matter that can't be seen, even in the light.
Where light is often understood as an ambient quality (not unlike electric light) I'll offer that it is not actually that. Light is knowledge, and knowledge is not a quality that comes from the flip of a switch...so to speak.
Why do you think it is that so called "light workers" with all there bright light shining still find themselves contending with evil? How many times have you heard a light worker say that they had to fight off this demon or that negative entity while in altered states and closest to their light bodies?
It's because the quality of their light is not Light, it's to some degree lacking knowledgeability. If you fill an empty room with light does it illuminate anything?
They do not yet knowledgably understand the nature of duality and perception...whether one is in a space of lightness or darkness it is what is within the consciousness that creates the quality of what manifests outside one's consciousness...what is ultimately experienced in that moment.
To be a Light Worker, one that vibrates from a place of knowledge, doesn't even mean that one is "shining brightly" while doing their energy work.
Another example, a little story about an energy work session regarding a Psychic Vampire, a friend of mine under attack by the vamp, and me, is one that was undeniable food for thought for me about the difference between little-l and big-L energy work (and hopefully will be for you also)--
Oh brother, I have some major T-storms in my area right now. I'll have to come back later to finish this post...:) Quoting: Ac 472494
"whether one is in a space of lightness or darkness it is what is within the consciousness that creates the quality of what manifests outside one's consciousness...what is ultimately experienced in that moment."
One question if I may? When you say "it is that what is within the consciousness that creates the quality of what manifests outside one`s consciousness", I read that as it is initialy that which is within the consciousness of the place (environment) you are in that initiates what is ultimatley experienced in that moment. Or visa versa. IE: there are always two consciousness, yours and that of everything else. The everything else can and does divide, once you know the one.
My question is: Is that what you said? |
| Wasayo nli
User ID: 34620
7/29/2008 11:45 AM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
So, Wasayo does your famous 'be your own guru' extend to suggesting that people do not access books, other people's opinions, videos or other external sources?
And are you saying you receive nothing external from the Creator at all, in the way of information/inspiration?
Div
Dear Divinity,
Nothing is really an "either/or". You are baiting me to say "NO books, no channeled stuff" and only go within.
What I am saying is that balance is the key.
Even Stuart Wilde, whom you referenced and thus introduced me to... even he said that much of his wisdom was gained when HE went within and into a trance state.
He didn't read books in a trance state.
You are saying "either/or/only"... outer wisdom ~ or going within.
It's not that simple. Just my personal "take" here, and ymmv. And it sure does. (wink) Wasayo
You're both right! Be your own guru is correct the way wasayo is explaining it by asking yourself for the inner truths.
Div is right because, in most every case, something led us to be inspired to look within.
IMO, we need duality in this existence for contrast. Duality doesn't seem like it would be something that is needed in the Golden Age, so at that point, would there be neutrality and would we need darkness? Quoting: maya2012
Dear maya2012,
Excellent synthesis and analysis of two differing viewpoints... thank you!
I was hoping that a comment such as yours would be a good outcome of the heated debate between Divinity and myself yesterday.
It is never my intent to "destroy Divinity's work" as she claims. I was merely offering a different stance.
I also happily note that you have come to your own conclusions ~ which is better than "excellent". Blessings, Wasayo |
| Wasayo nli
User ID: 34620
7/29/2008 12:09 PM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
quoting WASAYO:
>>And yet, even though we retain our individuality, we are "all one within The One" ~ we are a facet of the greater Hologram of Life which contains us all... contains all the "auric snowflakes".>>
Hologram of Life? Perhaps you could tell us a bit more about his hologram, Wasayo. Is it real or an illusion?
Divinity Quoting: Divinity
Divinity,
If you had asked a genuine question without the intent to bait and troll me, I would reply.
You don't want to understand my viewpoint ~ all you want to do is fight and prove that YOU are "right".
If anybody doubts me, just check Divinity's lightworkers thread yesterday and today. It's the huge blog.
Divinity ~ I am putting you on *IGNORE*.
Why? Because *ignore* is YOUR modus operandi.
*Ignore* is what you do, Divinity... to Darza and all who disagree with you ~ except me, whom you troll and then send your minion "Knights" (floydian, Ahim-sa) to savage.
It isn't worth my time or health to respond to your taunts. It's all mindf*** and oneupmanship with you. Wasayo |
| whyidontknow
User ID: 471651
7/29/2008 12:27 PM
| | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
1. It can get to be a real slippery slope when one lumps together darkness and evilness. It is my experience that The Void is a "dark" place, and that it's also a neutral realm. I find it to be the foundational floor of the Field of Potential. Where there is potential, then all possibilities exist...it's what one does (action) and one feels (intention) that creates the reality within the darkness.
2. Another example, a little story about an energy work session regarding a Psychic Vampire, a friend of mine under attack by the vamp, and me, is one that was undeniable food for thought for me about the difference between little-l and big-L energy work (and hopefully will be for you also)-- Quoting: Anonymous Coward 472494
1. yes that is what i was trying to express in the light/darkness threads- darkness does not always mean evil and light does not always mean good
2. i have heard the term psychic vampire before but now that you said it, it struck a cord
only because of the way some of the posts have been in, in this thread- not even spiritually based or on topic,
(he said she said)- grow up
1. That is a beautiful state of existance within which the generic information thrives/blossoms, infact the generic information forces this infinitly manifesting changing existance.
Feels to me whyidontknow you have all the ingrediants hence your mental "playmates" will allready have picked you up and have show you they exist , up to you what comes next as it always is , free will.
2. I suggest you allow some time for yourself to conduct one to one interactions (mental) with one other whom is interested in either your knew interpretation or you in theirs, whom has the capacity to do exactly what you say you can do. Quoting: nonmaterial structure 376724
1. some of the things i say are not meant to be taken literal
they only serve to extract certain thoughts and ideas so i can form a basis to conect with the individual-
i dont consider that trolling when the reaction is done in an appropiate way
2. good point lol
I just read 4 pages and saw some very inspiring posts. Myself i am a student of universal
energy, i especially like the posters who share from beyond the good-bad/pain-pleasure cycle. Quoting: Darza
4 pages some very inspiriing posts, you referring to everything ive said??
yes the good bad/pain pleasure cycle, seems to be an ongoing conversation that never ends between two or more entities of opposite vibrations
IMO, we need duality in this existence for contrast. Duality doesn't seem like it would be something that is needed in the Golden Age, so at that point, would there be neutrality and would we need darkness? Quoting: maya2012
i think if you look at both ends of the spectrum you eventually reach a point in wich where
light does not exist and where darkness does not exist
i.e. all the way to the right it is light all the way to the left it is dark,
the closer you go to the middle the more intertwined they become untill you reach its center point
once you do it is made up of equal parts (light/dark)- balance
i think in all cases no matter your spiritual development that exists like the phases of the moon
golden age to me just means a deeper understanding of the workings and characteristics of both sides
and how their applied-
-
divinity-floydian-wasayo
first off wasayo i have nothing against you but when you continue to focus on the same thing
i.e. what they are doing to you and how much it sucks ect
then you are supporting what they do wether you realize it or not
if you continue to interact with them in a way over a long enough period of time you become just like them and impertial to me
if they bother you let them just let it slide dont respond they will go away
maybe you need to be engaged with them in order to realize where you are, but thats not what this thread is about
divinity-floydian
divinity,
i was going to read all the posts you have made in this thread so far but i couldnt get past the 2nd page without seeing the same things come out of your mouth
you rarely ask questions when you do it is not for knowledge or understanding it is to provoke
you continue to assault whom ever you are discussing with in a demeaning and disregarding way-
it is very negative in nature
there is nothing positive about you, i think your a fake a phony a self apointed masia i hope you can prove me wrong but i highly doubt it
your lightworker thread from what i gather is a bunch of like minded people as yourself huddleing together to do battle against evil
wich in affect you create that is not lightwork
that is stupidity
floydian-
who are you where did you come from
how many times where you droppd on your head as a child
what is 2+2??
these are simple questions can you answer them without a ounce of hatred?? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 469767
7/29/2008 12:42 PM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
Gee whiz, AC 767...
Just a day or two ago you were praising me on Divinity's LW thread and on Allie's Healing Place thread too.
Here you sure are dissing me big-time ~ singing quite the different tune. And dissing Darza along with me, I might add. Interesting.
No, I do not want to change Divinity and I've given up hope that she will ever listen to me. Neither Divinity nor I can change each other ~ and neither of us wants to... for sure not me.
So take a look at your own mirror, okey-dokey? You have misinterpreted my words through your own lens ~ and passed harsh judgment on me.
Do you really know where you stand?
I'm not asking you to choose between Divinity and myself ~ that is simplistic and would serve nothing.
What I am asking you to do is... find yourself. Be your own guru. Sincerely, Wasayo Quoting: Wasayo nli 475096
Gee whiz, Wasayo! :-)
Just because I did not appreciate your behavior does not mean I do not like you. IMHO, the behavior was unbecoming for someone who is BE-coming. :-)
As for holding up my own mirror, I will tell you that I would find myself unbecoming if I displayed the same type of behavior. Perhaps my post to which you have responded was exactly a mirror of what I saw YOU and DARZA do yesterday. Divinity was having a conversation with someone else and both you and Darza made rude and hurtful comments ABOUT Divinity and also the entire GROUP of LW's. So, yes, you may be right, I may be displaying the same type of butting-in behavior by using your words and communications as an illustration to my point about "perspectives". I'll take credit for having "butted-in" where I was not asked to butt-in. 8-O
If we were perfect we'd not be here. It is a balancing act. We hold up mirrors for others AND we project our own loves and fears onto others, too. It's a dance. It's obvious that the two of you (yourself and Divinity) have a love/hate relationship. It's obvious that you both hurt each other, sometimes on purpose and sometimes in self-defense. It's like you are a pair of sisters/siblings.
I really appreciate Divinity as well as you, Wasayo. By keeping myself in the distance I can see the trees for the forest. I don't know your history with one another, but it seems to leak out in spurts on almost every post you make to one another. You each project and mirror one another. It's a dance ~ The Twist, if you will ~
If I remember right, in an earlier post you said that you can only fix yourself. Your actions indicated you were trying to fix Divinity, but maybe that was a dance in which you WERE trying to fix yourself. By stating at least three times that Divinity was "triggered" perhaps you were making note of how you, yourself, was being triggered. I don't know. Only you can be the judge of that. Did you consider what it was that "triggered" her? Did it have anything to do with what you or Darza posted ~ how you "targeted" her??
Listen, I simply watched a movie and gave a review. It was a post talking about "perspectives" and I used your and Divinity's interaction as an illustration. I hope that didn't "trigger" you? If it did, maybe it was the Universe showing YOU how it is that there are two sides to a coin ~ targets and triggers. Maybe I was just an instrument for the Universe. (Hm, does that mean I don't have to take responsibility for having butted-in? Nope. I did it and I admit it.)
As an added note ~ I loved today's TUT ~ A note form the Universe. Here it is:
Contrary to what would seem like logical thinking, putting up your defenses actually inspires others to put up their offenses.
En garde,
The Universe
P.S. The truly defenseless need no defense, if you know what I mean. |
| nonmaterial sructure
User ID: 376724
7/29/2008 12:48 PM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
1. some of the things i say are not meant to be taken literal
they only serve to extract certain thoughts and ideas so i can form a basis to conect with the individual-
i dont consider that trolling when the reaction is done in an appropiate way Quoting: whyidontknow
Ha ha ,understood. |
| Wasayo nli
User ID: 20203
7/29/2008 12:53 PM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
Dear whyidon'tknow,
And you DO know, lol...
Thank you immensely for your comments regarding me. I am old... but I can still learn, lol. Your points are well taken.
Yes, by responding to Divinity and her trolls I now realize that you and Darza are right ~ I am keeping the fuse lit ~ and, like I told Darza... I'm working on this.
Putting Divinity on *ignore* is an important first step in this process for me... for my health and healing from all the ongoing-for-a-long-time trauma.
widk, this is a beautiful thread you have started ~ and there is much wisdom and sharing upon it. It's really very fresh, new and exciting! I love it!
******
On another topic ~ did you have any other questions... "to a psychic" questions ~ since the title of this thread is "psychics and lightworkers"?
I'm up for it! (wink)
I'll start by saying that when you do psychic readings (or astrology too, for that matter)... as the late eminent astrologer Dane Rudhyar once said, "The reading is no better than the level of consciousness of the astrologer."
What Rudhyar meant by that is this. If the personal self of the reader bleeds through into the reading ~ if he or she tries to control the client or create a dependency ~ then the reading reflects not the one asking... but the low and ego/self viewpoint of the psychic. It can be very damaging to those asking... and I have seen this happen.
So, a psychic needs to go beyond duality ~ beyond "this" or "that" personally ~ and DROP SELF in order to accurately get a bead on someone else. It's very good practice in real life of both transcending personal mind and remaining centered and neutral.
Once, many years ago, when I read for the Las Vegas Psychic Institute, a fellow psychic was conducting seances. She invited me to join... because of the big money she was receiving and the many people who waited in line to hear her every word... at $5.00/minute, I might add.
I said, "No". How come? She was FAKING the seances to create a financial dependency from her flock.
This is an illustration of how the personal level of consciousness of the reader (psychic) can bleed over into the field/aura of the innocent ones asking for a reading.
Have you ever seen stuff like this happen?
As to the lighworking part of your title on this thread, I dunno. I refuse to call myself a lightworker.
How come? Cuz we are lightworkers, darkworkers, and everything in between. We are all... and everything.
Thanks again for a great thread, whyidon'tknow. Wasayo |
| Darza
User ID: 378572
7/29/2008 12:54 PM
| | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
I just read 4 pages and saw some very inspiring posts. Myself i am a student of universal
energy, i especially like the posters who share from beyond the good-bad/pain-pleasure cycle.
4 pages some very inspiriing posts, you referring to everything ive said??
yes the good bad/pain pleasure cycle, seems to be an ongoing conversation that never ends between two or more entities of opposite vibrations Quoting: whyidontknow
Hi Whyidontknow,
From what i remember from your posts you are doing your own research. That is and has been my way also.
This way i discovered amazing heavenly treasures like with the pain-pleasure cycle. They are both temporal.
After pleasure comes pain comes pleasure etc. I am observing the cycle as it unfolds. So now when i have
pain i know it is temporal, it does not make me suffer. |
| Wasayo nli
User ID: 20203
7/29/2008 1:04 PM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
Gee whiz, AC 767...
Just a day or two ago you were praising me on Divinity's LW thread and on Allie's Healing Place thread too.
Here you sure are dissing me big-time ~ singing quite the different tune. And dissing Darza along with me, I might add. Interesting.
No, I do not want to change Divinity and I've given up hope that she will ever listen to me. Neither Divinity nor I can change each other ~ and neither of us wants to... for sure not me.
So take a look at your own mirror, okey-dokey? You have misinterpreted my words through your own lens ~ and passed harsh judgment on me.
Do you really know where you stand?
I'm not asking you to choose between Divinity and myself ~ that is simplistic and would serve nothing.
What I am asking you to do is... find yourself. Be your own guru. Sincerely, Wasayo
Gee whiz, Wasayo! :-)
Just because I did not appreciate your behavior does not mean I do not like you. IMHO, the behavior was unbecoming for someone who is BE-coming. :-)
As for holding up my own mirror, I will tell you that I would find myself unbecoming if I displayed the same type of behavior. Perhaps my post to which you have responded was exactly a mirror of what I saw YOU and DARZA do yesterday. Divinity was having a conversation with someone else and both you and Darza made rude and hurtful comments ABOUT Divinity and also the entire GROUP of LW's. So, yes, you may be right, I may be displaying the same type of butting-in behavior by using your words and communications as an illustration to my point about "perspectives". I'll take credit for having "butted-in" where I was not asked to butt-in. 8-O
If we were perfect we'd not be here. It is a balancing act. We hold up mirrors for others AND we project our own loves and fears onto others, too. It's a dance. It's obvious that the two of you (yourself and Divinity) have a love/hate relationship. It's obvious that you both hurt each other, sometimes on purpose and sometimes in self-defense. It's like you are a pair of sisters/siblings.
I really appreciate Divinity as well as you, Wasayo. By keeping myself in the distance I can see the trees for the forest. I don't know your history with one another, but it seems to leak out in spurts on almost every post you make to one another. You each project and mirror one another. It's a dance ~ The Twist, if you will ~
If I remember right, in an earlier post you said that you can only fix yourself. Your actions indicated you were trying to fix Divinity, but maybe that was a dance in which you WERE trying to fix yourself. By stating at least three times that Divinity was "triggered" perhaps you were making note of how you, yourself, was being triggered. I don't know. Only you can be the judge of that. Did you consider what it was that "triggered" her? Did it have anything to do with what you or Darza posted ~ how you "targeted" her??
Listen, I simply watched a movie and gave a review. It was a post talking about "perspectives" and I used your and Divinity's interaction as an illustration. I hope that didn't "trigger" you? If it did, maybe it was the Universe showing YOU how it is that there are two sides to a coin ~ targets and triggers. Maybe I was just an instrument for the Universe. (Hm, does that mean I don't have to take responsibility for having butted-in? Nope. I did it and I admit it.)
As an added note ~ I loved today's TUT ~ A note form the Universe. Here it is:
Contrary to what would seem like logical thinking, putting up your defenses actually inspires others to put up their offenses.
En garde,
The Universe
P.S. The truly defenseless need no defense, if you know what I mean. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 469767
Dear AC 767,
Now that you have passed judgment on me AGAIN ~ and more harshly this time... defending Divinity and her lightworkers ~ do you have anything of your own which is creative to add to whyidon'tknow's thread?
If this is the way you "like me"... I'll pass. (wink)
Wasayo |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 475339
7/29/2008 1:06 PM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
Ha,ha thanks to reading this thread full of self appointed mystics and psychics I think I've just figured out the reasoning behind the Messianic Secret.
I mean it seriously, thank you. |
| Wasayo nli
User ID: 20203
7/29/2008 1:14 PM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
[Quoting whyidon'tknow]
"1. yes that is what i was trying to express in the light/darkness threads- darkness does not always mean evil and light does not always mean good
2. i have heard the term psychic vampire before but now that you said it, it struck a cord
only because of the way some of the posts have been in, in this thread- not even spiritually based or on topic,
(he said she said)- grow up." [Quoting whyidon'tknow]
Dear whyidon'tknow,
Beautifully stated ~ "darkness does not always mean evil and light does not always mean good". That is a very important point of discernment, and you've done a great job of putting it into words.
As to the subject of psychic vampires, I've done lots of research on that. My favorite book on it is "Way of Psychic Protection" by Judy Hall.
Judy Hall is a psychic, clairvoyant, and astrologer, and she also counsels people on addictions. In other words, she walks-her-talk.
Judy Hall gives this definition of psychic vampires:
"PSYCHIC VAMPIRES
"People who draw in energy from other people to feed their own energy. Vampirism is sucking or leeching energy from another person. This can happen on a psychic, emotional or mental level."
She further defines psychic protection this way:
"PSYCHIC PROTECTION
"Creating a safe space around yourself, screening out unwanted thoughts and feelings from, and preventing energy loss to, other people or places."
Wasayo |
| Wasayo nli
User ID: 20203
7/29/2008 1:19 PM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
Ha,ha thanks to reading this thread full of self appointed mystics and psychics I think I've just figured out the reasoning behind the Messianic Secret.
I mean it seriously, thank you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 475339
hahaha... AC 475339,
Great point! Thank you for sure!
And for-all-the-world-to-see, I'm no "messiah" at all ~ I'm just an ordinary stupid bloke with some psychic ability ~ still struggling to get it all together.
What do you think is "the reasoning behind the Messianic Secret"?
And, speaking of "the Secret" ~ do you have any thoughts about the Law of Attraction (as presented in "The Secret")?
You've got my interest... Wasayo |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 475339
7/29/2008 1:28 PM | | Re: psychics and lightworkers | Quote |
hahaha... AC 475339,
Great point! Thank you for sure!
And for-all-the-world-to-see, I'm no "messiah" at all ~ I'm just an ordinary stupid bloke with some psychic ability ~ still struggling to get it all together.
What do you think is "the reasoning behind the Messianic Secret"?
And, speaking of "the Secret" ~ do you have any thoughts about the Law of Attraction (as presented in "The Secret")?
You've got my interest... Wasayo Quoting: Wasayo nli 20203
Oh Wasayo it's not for me to say, I'm sure you'd much rather find out yourself.
I know of the book The Secret but TBH I'm always a bit dubious of anything which claims to be able to change the world and yet has a price tag stuck on the back.
Still I'm sure that if your following the right path you'll know it. |
| | Page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15 | |
|
