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Dead monster washes ashore in Montauk
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not_from_earth
User ID: 476156
7/30/2008 5:07 PM | | Re: Dead monster washes ashore in Montauk | Quote |
Thats no turtle. Its hind legs are not adapt for swiming, but for running, and turtles shells are attached to the spinal cord and ribs of the turtle. If it were a turtle its whole back would be ripped open. Also sea turtles beaks are not serated like that. No turtle i know of has a serated beak. Quoting: not_a_turtle 476156
i accually think its from another planet... or maybe demension... altough if u look closely it kinda looks like its skin is burned a little like it used 2 have fur or hair but it got melted off |
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ShadowDancer
User ID: 287857
7/30/2008 5:08 PM
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That is not a turtle or a capybari
The teeth are canine but it has the beak-turtles do not have teeth like canines-they have a beak as a snapping turtle but no canines-as well as NO SERRATED beaks
The other creature is a large rodent and has no canine but has a rodential plate in their mouth in the center and anterior to the other teeth
Cern could tie in with this...as well as Montauk and the supposedly public park where the public is not allowed...
This creature might of escaped and it appears on the rt foreleg there is an additional area surrounding the limb
This could be from a surgical procedure,like a fusing with some foreign tissue-to see if it would graft...or it could be apparatus to hold injections or fluids being introduced-or just a flap of skin???
It does bear some griffin type features on the facial area
bizarre and this is mild compared to what I Cee(ahead)
what about the recent report of the monkey faced pig thing? born out of a regular litter supposedly
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 474455
7/30/2008 5:18 PM | | Re: Dead monster washes ashore in Montauk | Quote |
it's not PHOTOSHOPPED. i work with photoshop and i know what to expect from a fake photograph. there are no blurred parts in the image. the image seems to be uniform regarding the level of detail. stop being naive people.
and for the turtle thing, i can only laugh. |
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ShadowDancer
User ID: 287857
7/30/2008 5:21 PM
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it's not PHOTOSHOPPED. i work with photoshop and i know what to expect from a fake photograph. there are no blurred parts in the image. the image seems to be uniform regarding the level of detail. stop being naive people.
and for the turtle thing, i can only laugh. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 474455
agreed  turtle-well they were not paying attention in biology
*************************************There is an evil tendency underlying all our technology - the tendency to do what is reasonable even when it isn't any good.
- Robert Pirsig
There is little gain in attempting to change external conditions, you must first change the core of inner beliefs, naturally outer conditions will change accordingly.
BECOME it to achieve it.
Wisdom strengthened the wise more than ten mighty men which are in the city. Ecclesiastes 7:19
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BriZzNiTcH
User ID: 422951
7/30/2008 5:22 PM | | Re: Dead monster washes ashore in Montauk | Quote |
UPDATE
Our old friend the Montauk Monster, who washed ashore on Long Island recently, continues to befuddle. Luckily Hamptons-based website Plum will be hosting two eyewitnesses as well as the woman who took the photograph this Friday on their web show The Juice. Plum writes of the hellfire-born nightmare creature: "Four government biologists contacted by Plum were unable to identify the species of the animal from its photo and came to the conclusion that 'no such creature exists.'" Shriek!! That's because it's a monster. A government experiment gone wrong! A Cerberus come to warn us of doom! A MONSTER!!!!
[link to gawker.com]
Paging Darwin: Is Montauk “Sea Monster” Real or Photoshop Phantasy
July 30th, 2008 3:30pm
A photograph of what people have been calling a "sea monster"—a rodent-like animal with a beak—has created quite a stir on the East End. Four government biologists contacted by Plum were unable to identify the species of the animal from its photo and came to the conclusion that "no such creature exists," putting forth the possibility that the photo may have been doctored. But a graphics specialist at the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Services calls the photo—if it were doctored—a "really good Photoshop job."
The validity of the picture has been further established by the numerous eyewitnesses who saw the animal on the beach in front of Montauk's Surfside Inn. Theories abound as to what the animal is and where it came from. Marci Caplis of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service noted that rare and unknown sea animals did surface after the Asian tsunami, and although the recent East Coast storms are not of comparable magnitude, the animal did wash up on a particularly stormy day in the Hamptons. Others have speculated that the animal escaped from Plum Island Animal Disease Center. The photographer, Jenna Hewitt of Montauk, and two companions who also saw the animal, will appear this Friday on "The Juice."
[link to hamptons.plumtv.com]
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 452430
7/30/2008 5:42 PM | | Re: Dead monster washes ashore in Montauk | Quote |
so where is the monster now? who has it?
why is that organization named Plum? the same name of the island that the Animal Research Center, operated by the dept. of homeland of security, is on????????
this is getting weird now. |
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UpsetBrit
User ID: 476222
7/30/2008 7:01 PM | | Re: Dead monster washes ashore in Montauk | Quote |
Use the fly for size reference.
Too good to be a fake IMO. |
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Ice
User ID: 474255
7/30/2008 7:03 PM
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has anyone posted the size of the thing????
ice
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simple man
User ID: 476232
7/30/2008 7:15 PM | | Re: Dead monster washes ashore in Montauk | Quote |
I wonder what the cloth looking thing is around its right front limb? If you blow it up, it looks like something tied around that limb and the remaining length goes under the body. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 473068
7/30/2008 7:26 PM | | Re: Dead monster washes ashore in Montauk | Quote |
It is called genetic engineering. This a relatively new science, with no controls on it and the students and teachers of this dicipline are going "hog wild" dicing and splicing genes and crossing species/insects/plants in any and every way. Have you heard of "spider goats"? They are carelessly polluting our biosphere, and could destroy life on this earth as we know it. My kid studied this field, has a degree in it, and ran away from "genetic engineering" screaming with her hair on fire, it scared her so badly. She told me "mommie, these people are nutz" |
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EllisBelleus
User ID: 476238
7/30/2008 7:27 PM | | Re: Dead monster washes ashore in Montauk | Quote |
Caviomorph... possibly coypu?
Definitely a rodent. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 476248
7/30/2008 7:40 PM | | Re: Dead monster washes ashore in Montauk | Quote |
According to town natural resources Director and , a racoon with its upper jaw missing
"The independent":
[link to www.indyeastend.com]
Kay Merrill, the reporter at the "The Independent" who supposedly wrote the article about this corpse. She confirmed that she did write the article and that the corpse was identified as being that of a raccoon.
[link to answers.yahoo.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 476248
7/30/2008 7:42 PM | | Re: Dead monster washes ashore in Montauk | Quote |
In "The independent"link, go to page 10. |
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animachina
User ID: 476260
7/30/2008 8:02 PM | | Re: Dead monster washes ashore in Montauk | Quote |
Just a dead raccoon with it's snout and upper teeth missing and it's hair sluffed off by decay.
IMAGE ( [link to www.animachina.com] )
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animachina
User ID: 476260
7/30/2008 8:05 PM | |
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 271953
7/30/2008 8:05 PM | | Re: Dead monster washes ashore in Montauk | Quote |
How big is this creature, pretty please? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 476359
7/30/2008 11:19 PM | | Re: Dead monster washes ashore in Montauk | Quote |
You people are idiots, thinking this is a turtle. Probably a fake carcass or a photoshopped photo for viral marketing. But you cannot rule out being real--I have a book which lists large Octopi and Komodo Dragons as mythical beasts; in the same book as the Loch Ness Monster (very old book, dated 1963).
Anyway, I call you idiots because obviously you have no idea of the anatomy of a turtle, rather having the intellect a third-grader when it comes to the subject.
Allow me to elaborate. A Turtle's shell is part of the skin. There is no skin underneath the shell. the Ribs and spine are attached to the shell, as seen here:
[image] [ link to www.twingroves.district96.k12.il.us]
One of you posted, and I'm going to quote here:
What if someone peeled him out of his shell?
Alright, this is preposterous. If a Turtle's shell were peeled off, its innards would spill out. If a turtle were squeezed hard enough, its shell would smash and its innards would leak out. If a turtle's head were pulled hard enough, either its neck would break, it's head would give way and come off, or you'd just tear the thing apart.
There is no possible way to separate a turtle from its shell without killing it instantly and violently in the process.
One of you agreed:
I gotta agree....a snapper...:)
Snapping Turtles do not have teeth, or or even teeth-like protrusions on their beaks. Their beaks are just very sharp.
[image] [ link to missourifolkloresociety.truman.edu]
Conclusion: You people are stupid. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 476361
7/30/2008 11:20 PM | | Re: Dead monster washes ashore in Montauk | Quote |
You people are idiots, thinking this is a turtle. Probably a fake carcass or a photoshopped photo for viral marketing. But you cannot rule out being real--I have a book which lists large Octopi and Komodo Dragons as mythical beasts; in the same book as the Loch Ness Monster (very old book, dated 1963).
Anyway, I call you idiots because obviously you have no idea of the anatomy of a turtle, rather having the intellect a third-grader when it comes to the subject.
Allow me to elaborate. A Turtle's shell is part of the skin. There is no skin underneath the shell. the Ribs and spine are attached to the shell, as seen here:
[image] [ link to www.twingroves.district96.k12.il.us]
One of you posted, and I'm going to quote here:
What if someone peeled him out of his shell?
Alright, this is preposterous. If a Turtle's shell were peeled off, its innards would spill out. If a turtle were squeezed hard enough, its shell would smash and its innards would leak out. If a turtle's head were pulled hard enough, either its neck would break, it's head would give way and come off, or you'd just tear the thing apart.
There is no possible way to separate a turtle from its shell without killing it instantly and violently in the process.
One of you agreed:
I gotta agree....a snapper...:)
Snapping Turtles do not have teeth, or or even teeth-like protrusions on their beaks. Their beaks are just very sharp.
[image] [ link to missourifolkloresociety.truman.edu]
Conclusion: You people are stupid. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 476380
7/31/2008 12:02 AM | | Re: Dead monster washes ashore in Montauk | Quote |
You people are idiots, thinking this is a turtle. Probably a fake carcass or a photoshopped photo for viral marketing. But you cannot rule out being real--I have a book which lists large Octopi and Komodo Dragons as mythical beasts; in the same book as the Loch Ness Monster (very old book, dated 1963).
Anyway, I call you idiots because obviously you have no idea of the anatomy of a turtle, rather having the intellect a third-grader when it comes to the subject.
Allow me to elaborate. A Turtle's shell is part of the skin. There is no skin underneath the shell. the Ribs and spine are attached to the shell, as seen here:
[image] [ link to www.twingroves.district96.k12.il.us]
One of you posted, and I'm going to quote here:
What if someone peeled him out of his shell?
Alright, this is preposterous. If a Turtle's shell were peeled off, its innards would spill out. If a turtle were squeezed hard enough, its shell would smash and its innards would leak out. If a turtle's head were pulled hard enough, either its neck would break, it's head would give way and come off, or you'd just tear the thing apart.
There is no possible way to separate a turtle from its shell without killing it instantly and violently in the process.
One of you agreed:
I gotta agree....a snapper...:)
Snapping Turtles do not have teeth, or or even teeth-like protrusions on their beaks. Their beaks are just very sharp.
[image] [ link to missourifolkloresociety.truman.edu]
Conclusion: You people are stupid.
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Lalet
User ID: 476393
7/31/2008 12:46 AM | | Re: Dead monster washes ashore in Montauk | Quote |
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think it was a raccoon. Look closely at the structure of it's mouth. Now compare it to the structure of a raccoon's skull.
[link to www.science-art.com]
[link to www.skullsite.co.uk]
[link to upload.wikimedia.org]
The mouth on the creature shown in the photo curves down and is similar to a beak. Raccoon's mouths curve upwards and the teeth are bigger and protrude from the mouth. The upper jaw is rounded, blunt, and shorter. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 476395
7/31/2008 12:48 AM | | Re: Dead monster washes ashore in Montauk | Quote |
You people are idiots, thinking this is a turtle. Probably a fake carcass or a photoshopped photo for viral marketing. But you cannot rule out being real--I have a book which lists large Octopi and Komodo Dragons as mythical beasts; in the same book as the Loch Ness Monster (very old book, dated 1963).
Anyway, I call you idiots because obviously you have no idea of the anatomy of a turtle, rather having the intellect a third-grader when it comes to the subject.
Allow me to elaborate. A Turtle's shell is part of the skin. There is no skin underneath the shell. the Ribs and spine are attached to the shell, as seen here:
[image] [ link to www.twingroves.district96.k12.il.us]
One of you posted, and I'm going to quote here:
What if someone peeled him out of his shell?
Alright, this is preposterous. If a Turtle's shell were peeled off, its innards would spill out. If a turtle were squeezed hard enough, its shell would smash and its innards would leak out. If a turtle's head were pulled hard enough, either its neck would break, it's head would give way and come off, or you'd just tear the thing apart.
There is no possible way to separate a turtle from its shell without killing it instantly and violently in the process.
One of you agreed:
I gotta agree....a snapper...:)
Snapping Turtles do not have teeth, or or even teeth-like protrusions on their beaks. Their beaks are just very sharp.
[image] [ link to missourifolkloresociety.truman.edu]
Conclusion: You people are stupid. |
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K_D 
User ID: 476394
7/31/2008 1:08 AM
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bet it taste like chicken.
it has a cloth leash on its wrist.
silence is golden.... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 476393
7/31/2008 1:19 AM | | Re: Dead monster washes ashore in Montauk | Quote |
bet it taste like chicken.
it has a cloth leash on its wrist. Quoting: K_D
I assume its front legs to be bound. The material around its leg cannot be fur, as it would be highly unlikely to leave just that one patch and for the pieces underneath the fold to resemble a tied knot. If it were fur, it would have become matted and almost certainly would have lost pieces of hair as it was dragged onto the rough surface of the sand. It looks like weathered cloth. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 476403
7/31/2008 1:21 AM | | Re: Dead monster washes ashore in Montauk | Quote |
Looks like a pit bull to me with bound front legs. Somebody didn't want it any more and tossed her overboard.
Washed ashore days later after fish ate its nose off, just cartlidge/bone that looks like a beak..... |
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Lalet
User ID: 476393
7/31/2008 1:39 AM | | Re: Dead monster washes ashore in Montauk | Quote |
Looks like a pit bull to me with bound front legs. Somebody didn't want it any more and tossed her overboard.
Washed ashore days later after fish ate its nose off, just cartlidge/bone that looks like a beak..... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 476403
The skull is not the right shape.
[link to www.boneclones.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 476423
7/31/2008 1:44 AM | | Re: Dead monster washes ashore in Montauk | Quote |
It's a DEMON !! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 476403
7/31/2008 1:45 AM | | Re: Dead monster washes ashore in Montauk | Quote |
Looks like a pit bull to me with bound front legs. Somebody didn't want it any more and tossed her overboard.
Washed ashore days later after fish ate its nose off, just cartlidge/bone that looks like a beak.....
The skull is not the right shape.
[ link to www.boneclones.com]
Possibly, but it was obviosly floating for some time due to the sun burned skin so I'm sure the dog is bloated. If she was a smaller female the head size would look small attached to a bloated body. Just my guess, I own two pits and it look like one to me, tail, ears, toes/claws, muscle tone, hair color all looks like pit. |
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SHR 
Forum Administrator
7/31/2008 1:56 AM
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That's no turtle. Remove the top shell from a turtle, and the guts fall out. The ribs and spine are attached. Quoting: Evil Twin
Am I like the only guy on here that never took a turtle apart?...Reminds me of an old Neighbor I had down here...gotta say this with some chew..."Wuh?....yer never killed a Pig befoe?"....ummm no dude...lol....he looked at me like I was from outer space, then we went to his Pig farm, came home with enough pork for .....awhile...;)
Ok so looks like I was wrong on the turtle, Racoon now?....hmmmmm
Here's the pic again.
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Lalet
User ID: 476393
7/31/2008 2:05 AM | | Re: Dead monster washes ashore in Montauk | Quote |
Looks like a pit bull to me with bound front legs. Somebody didn't want it any more and tossed her overboard.
Washed ashore days later after fish ate its nose off, just cartlidge/bone that looks like a beak.....
The skull is not the right shape.
[ link to www.boneclones.com]
Possibly, but it was obviosly floating for some time due to the sun burned skin so I'm sure the dog is bloated. If she was a smaller female the head size would look small attached to a bloated body. Just my guess, I own two pits and it look like one to me, tail, ears, toes/claws, muscle tone, hair color all looks like pit.
Prolonged exposure to both the water and the sun may have deformed the body, but the forehead of the pitbull sticks out and the upper jaw doesn't curve down, even if pieces had been broken off. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 476435
7/31/2008 2:34 AM | | Re: Dead monster washes ashore in Montauk | Quote |
Fluffy!
You all found my dear fluffy!
OMG I lost him and now he is on this beach!
What will i tell the kids! |
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