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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 461218
7/29/2008 11:16 PM
Re: Get ready, US financial blogs, threads , sites to be policed/policiedQuote

Ok here is another question.

Who knows what executive orders there are that cover how the media is allowed to operate, when said executive orders are actually exercised(especially lockdown procedure ones) and the consequences of civic/civil disobedience(in particular non cooperation or non action, that is refusing directives"orders")?
 Quoting: FHL(C)


I don't know. There are so many!

But there are these...if they are of any help:
Executive Order No. 11051
Details responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis

Executive Order No. 10995
Provides for the takeover of communication media.

Executive Order No. 11310
Published in the FEDERAL REGISTER, 11 October, 1966, grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industry support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.
FHL(C)
User ID: 475678
7/29/2008 11:17 PM
Re: Get ready, US financial blogs, threads , sites to be policed/policiedQuote

and you probably have monkeys flying out of your butt too.



But suck his balls, he likes it when you do that.
 Quoting: loosecannon

Ok lets start with your hostility issues first, you have a need to express your self with expletives?, to cover inadequacies? the ability to sustain reasonable and concise argument? Sexual proclivities that are beginning to manifest beyond your conscious or reasons/will ability to control due to emotional quotient being orders of magnitude larger than your current shoe size IQ?
If you wish to keep on playing like that, i will help you as much as i can, of course you may not appreciate what happens after that, until you look back and see that the process that you will/went/shall go through was actually what you needed(IMO until otherwise confirmed)
sincerely
FHL(C)
[link to freewordofgod.yuku.com]
Omega
User ID: 423762
7/29/2008 11:19 PM
Re: Get ready, US financial blogs, threads , sites to be policed/policiedQuote

FU&FW

Its coming soon guys, Omega, thankyou for showing us who are definitely GLPs confirmed paid shills , to by the way
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I missed it. Please set em out again.


I missed it, too. Can we have the list again?
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You will need to ask Omega, but one i am aware of was cyber stalking his threads for the last week on so called "economic/patriotic grounds", until he was reduced to blathering and ac backshots rather than AV presence.



and you probably have monkeys flying out of your butt too.

Omega is a cheap con man who peddles prophecies of doom for the agrandizement of his ego and to compensate for low self esteem and very small balls.

Omega goes into full hostility mode the moment anybody challenges him and his rattlebrained "end is near" ideology, but in the end he has the thinnest skin of anybody on the board.

And his judgement in detecting paid shills is likely about as rational as his judgement in presuming that every event of any nature is OBVIOUSLY another precursor to DOOM!

Iow none at all.

But suck his balls, he likes it when you do that.
 Quoting: loosecannon


I see my own personal troll still has *issues*. So be it.


He's pissed as I caught him in his bullshit and lies on this thread here:

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

As you can see, he falsely accused me of lying when as it is plain for all to see he seriously fucked up when I called him out on his bullshit, with the link. But I will post the text here lest his dishonest lying ass has gone back to page 2 of the thread in question and altered it:


:loosebowel:


Ever since then he has been trolling by proxy any thread I am on, primarily pinned ones such as this. Several on this board are on to his game as I have been advised via PM.

BTW he started trolling me via PM's in a desperate move , his messages were pure insanity so I blocked him. Out of net decorum I won't post them in the public domain, although I could.

Best of luck, troll.

You'll be needing it.
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FHL(C)
User ID: 475678
7/29/2008 11:19 PM
Re: Get ready, US financial blogs, threads , sites to be policed/policiedQuote

Ok here is another question.

Who knows what executive orders there are that cover how the media is allowed to operate, when said executive orders are actually exercised(especially lockdown procedure ones) and the consequences of civic/civil disobedience(in particular non cooperation or non action, that is refusing directives"orders")?


I don't know. There are so many!

But there are these...if they are of any help:
Executive Order No. 11051
Details responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis

Executive Order No. 10995
Provides for the takeover of communication media.

Executive Order No. 11310
Published in the FEDERAL REGISTER, 11 October, 1966, grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industry support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 461218

Thank you AC for this info, lets see of the readers who can now condense and highpoint/highlight it for maximum exposure.
[link to freewordofgod.yuku.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 461504
7/29/2008 11:20 PM
Re: Get ready, US financial blogs, threads , sites to be policed/policiedQuote

Its already illeagal to criticize the "war effort".

Now we have to worry about the "woops we lost your money" effort.

This is of little concern to people with an IQ over 99 since we have an obvious self canceling problem here.

("Woops we lost the war money.")
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 471107
7/29/2008 11:44 PM
Re: Get ready, US financial blogs, threads , sites to be policed/policiedQuote

FRom the Omega files (not OUR Omega):
EXECUTIVE ORDERS

When F.E.M.A. is implemented, the following executive orders will be immediately enforced:

E.O. 12148 - FEMA national security emergency, such as: national disaster, social unrest, insurrection, or national financial crisis.

E.O. 10995 - "... provides for the seizure of ALL communications media in the United States."

E.O. 10997 - "... provides for the seizure of ALL electric power, petroleum, gas, fuels and minerals, both public and private."

E.O. 10998 - "... provides for the seizure of ALL food supplies and resources, public and private, and ALL farms, lands, and equipment."

E.O. 10999 - "... provides for the seizure of ALL means of transportation, including PERSONAL cars, trucks or vehicles of any kind and TOTAL CONTROL over all highways, seaports, and waterways."

E.O. 11000 - "... provides for the SEIZURE OF ALL AMERICAN PEOPLE for work forces under federal supervision, including SPLITTING UP OF FAMILIES if the government has to."

E.O. 11001 - "... provides for government seizure of ALL health, education and welfare functions."

E.O. 11002 - "... designates the postmaster general to operate a national REGISTRATION of all persons." [Under this order, you would report to your local post office to be separated and assigned to a new area. Here is where families would be separated].

E.O. 11003 - "... provides for the government to take over ALL airports and aircraft, commercial, public and PRIVATE."

E.O. 11004 - "... provides for the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, designate areas to be abandoned and establish new locations for populations."

E.O. 11005 - "... provides for the government to TAKE OVER railroads, inland waterways, and public storage facilities."

E.O. 11051 - "... the office of Emergency Planning [has] complete authorization to put the above orders into effect in time of increased international tension or economic or financial crisis."

All of the above executive orders were combined by President NIXON into Executive Order 11490, which allows all of this to take place if a national emergency is declared by the President.

Executive Order 12919: "National Defense Industrial Resources Preparedness" signed by CLINTON June 3, 1994, delegates authorities, responsibilities and allocations of F.E.M.A.'s Executive Orders [last entry] for the confiscation of ALL PROPERTY from the American people, and their re-location and assignment to 'labor' camps. ......

Operation Rolling Thunder. Reno and Benson have mentioned this operation which comprises county-wide sweeps of house to house, dynamic entry, search and seizures for all guns and food stockpiles by B.A.T.F., state national guard, activity duty soldiers, as well as local police. This function is also run and coordinated through F.E.M.A.
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FHL(C)
User ID: 475678
7/29/2008 11:57 PM
Re: Get ready, US financial blogs, threads , sites to be policed/policiedQuote

FRom the Omega files (not OUR Omega):
EXECUTIVE ORDERS

When F.E.M.A. is implemented, the following executive orders will be immediately enforced:

E.O. 12148 - FEMA national security emergency, such as: national disaster, social unrest, insurrection, or national financial crisis.

E.O. 10995 - "... provides for the seizure of ALL communications media in the United States."

E.O. 10997 - "... provides for the seizure of ALL electric power, petroleum, gas, fuels and minerals, both public and private."

E.O. 10998 - "... provides for the seizure of ALL food supplies and resources, public and private, and ALL farms, lands, and equipment."

E.O. 10999 - "... provides for the seizure of ALL means of transportation, including PERSONAL cars, trucks or vehicles of any kind and TOTAL CONTROL over all highways, seaports, and waterways."

E.O. 11000 - "... provides for the SEIZURE OF ALL AMERICAN PEOPLE for work forces under federal supervision, including SPLITTING UP OF FAMILIES if the government has to."

E.O. 11001 - "... provides for government seizure of ALL health, education and welfare functions."

E.O. 11002 - "... designates the postmaster general to operate a national REGISTRATION of all persons." [Under this order, you would report to your local post office to be separated and assigned to a new area. Here is where families would be separated].

E.O. 11003 - "... provides for the government to take over ALL airports and aircraft, commercial, public and PRIVATE."

E.O. 11004 - "... provides for the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, designate areas to be abandoned and establish new locations for populations."

E.O. 11005 - "... provides for the government to TAKE OVER railroads, inland waterways, and public storage facilities."

E.O. 11051 - "... the office of Emergency Planning [has] complete authorization to put the above orders into effect in time of increased international tension or economic or financial crisis."

All of the above executive orders were combined by President NIXON into Executive Order 11490, which allows all of this to take place if a national emergency is declared by the President.

Executive Order 12919: "National Defense Industrial Resources Preparedness" signed by CLINTON June 3, 1994, delegates authorities, responsibilities and allocations of F.E.M.A.'s Executive Orders [last entry] for the confiscation of ALL PROPERTY from the American people, and their re-location and assignment to 'labor' camps. ......

Operation Rolling Thunder. Reno and Benson have mentioned this operation which comprises county-wide sweeps of house to house, dynamic entry, search and seizures for all guns and food stockpiles by B.A.T.F., state national guard, activity duty soldiers, as well as local police. This function is also run and coordinated through F.E.M.A.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 471107

thats quite a list,
Now in the hands of a benevolent dictator(old roman, historical) then things get done that need to be done and then relinquished, under the hands of tyrants though, this spells total domination with high tech controls for what they perceive as the long term, i mean take that young lad who probably was tasered before he hit the bottom of the cliff, and you will understand why large groups of people who are herded by electricity/sound/spectrum weapons will flee from pain overload, bullets are for other deeds.
[link to freewordofgod.yuku.com]
FHL(C)
User ID: 475678
7/30/2008 12:05 AM
Re: Get ready, US financial blogs, threads , sites to be policed/policiedQuote

Protocols for Economic Collapse in America
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All federal agencies had individual collapse protocols that ultimately got coordinated through the Department of Defense. Obviously, the Department of Defense would be the ultimate coordinator because it would need to have special forces available, on a stand-by basis, ready, that could quickly parachute into areas all over the country, into the cities particularly, to secure federal properties and assets.

And that’s literally how it would begin. By the end of the third day, it would be all over -- a state of martial law. We’re not talking about war, now; this is just economic collapse.

There’s no military implication here, no political, no social implication or policy directive thereunto. This is strictly economic collapse. By the end of Day Three, effectively, all banks in the world will be shut down, all paper currencies will become valueless. Martial law would be declared. There would be no continuing transactions, at least for a period of time, of commodities. All providers of fuels and foods would be shut down automatically.

They have this in great detail too. U.S. Department of Defense Special 117th Assault Unit would parachute in to seize control of the cattle yards in Oklahoma City. This is how well it’s planned. In other words, economic collapse would automatically involve expansive military action and control.

By the end of the third day, when you no longer have a domestic medium of exchange, you have to have secured food and fuel stocks. You’ve got to have troops that have secured distribution points where there is food and fuel stocks, warehouses, tanks, etc. Otherwise people are just going to go get them, and the people have to know that if they try to go break into that store and steal that loaf of bread, they’re going to be shot.

Protocols for environmental disasters are called ‘scaling-circle scenarios.’ ‘Scaling circles’ is a Department of Defense euphemism. It’s also used in FEMA, OEM and other emergency management services. In environmental catastrophes, which are going to become national or global, it’s got to start someplace. It’s going to start in one very small, specific area. Therefore what happens is that the immediate force containment is the greatest in the first circle, to try to contain the spread of the disaster and keep it within that circle.

The environmental problem, to whatever extent it’s possible, before it spreads, will be neutralized or mitigated, in order to keep that catastrophe within that circle, or, if it is likely that it is to escape that circle, to attack whatever it is in such a fashion as to mitigate its strength and its ability to contaminate or otherwise affect other areas.

In the case of earthquakes, for instance, affecting the west coast, beginning at Mt. Rainier and moving southward -- that’s a different type of scenario. That does not include as much Department of Defense involvement. It includes separate protocols, wherein mostly FEMA and OEM act as the senior coordinating agencies between municipal, county and state disaster and containment, which is called Disaster and Containment Units. Federal troops would only be brought in for the purposes of maintaining control.

In a military or economic collapse situation, National Guard units would provide any spare help they could in combating whatever the problem is. Federal troops would be used in order to have the specific authority simply to shoot anyone. There are plans for all sorts of scenarios. The economic-disaster scenario is the one I always found the most intriguing because it is the one that is least understood by the American people.

Military control would be necessary when lines begin to form at the banks, people trying to access their money. But that wasn’t even anticipated as a big problem. Lines would form at the banks, but it was not even envisioned until sometime on Day Three because the American people wouldn’t get it. It would be announced that the stock markets are down 2000 or 3000 points, and since we’ve always been taught they’ll come back, the people would still be buying stocks.

You could count on everybody remaining in ignorance all the way down because the American people have never been taught Economics 101. The American people wouldn’t realize the full extent of it until the markets were closed on the third day, or until the time when they went down to cash a check and the bank was closed with soldiers out in front. Then they would go down and see the gas station’s closed. They see the local supermarket has been shuttered, and there’s federal troops in front of it. Then they might begin to catch on. And remember -- it’s not just federal troops. In emergency-collapse protocols, even before the declaration of a formal state of emergency or a state of martial law, the local military authorities within any given county or jurisdiction have the ability to essentially militarize anyone, that is, any civilian. This would be more than just deputizing civilians. It’s federal. In other words, they would have the ability to militarize and give military authority to a civilian force. This would include not only police and the sheriffs and state police, but all local law enforcement that exists below the state level would be immediately militarized. They wouldn’t take just anybody like they did in Iraq. It would be like the military when they call for volunteers. Then they’d have everybody and their brother-in-law volunteering, waving around the American flag and so on.

You’ve got a lot of pickup-driving guys in this country with the gun racks in the back and the Confederate flag flying. So you start waving the American flag in front of their face and say, Hey, you’re going to get your chance you always wanted -- to fit your potbelly inside an army uniform and carry a gun and shoot people. How appealing would that be?

And besides, if you do this, then you’re going to get to eat.

In other words, this is how it would unfold over three days, but, in fact, very few Americans would know what to do about it or how to take any precautions. They wouldn’t have a clue because they don’t understand enough about economics to know what is happening. So that’s what it is -- Economic Armageddon. If the Bush-Cheney regime is re-installed into power, that is effectively what Comptroller General David Walker is saying.

In conclusion, since there is very little the people of the United States can do to protect themselves. We’re not going to make any suggestions of how to protect yourselves because there’s very little you can do.

We could tell you to go out and buy gold coins and bury them in the coffee can in the back yard and go to your nearest survivalist store, but, frankly, that’s useless. In the last analysis, it’s a lot of hype. There is very little the average US citizen could do.

The only thing that can prevent this, as the Comptroller alluded to when he was asked by Barbara Walters, How do we prevent reaching the problem by 2009? He said simply, "A change of regimes."

So how do you prevent it? Don’t vote for Bush and Cheney -- and hope that Bush does not use his emergency powers to cancel or postpone the election by edict, powers which you, the flag-waving citizens, have given him.

All flag-waving citizens, be warned. If you want to vote for Bush-Cheney again, make sure you got plenty of Spam on hand.

Here’s an interesting and humorous aside. A couple of days ago, Hormel Foods, which makes Spam, announced that in the last six months there have been record sales of Spam in the United States the survivalists’ food of choice. After all, they pride themselves on the fact, as the spokesman for Hormel said, "It is the only food product you can buy with an expiration that’s 50 years."

When everything goes to hell, when all that man has created has turned to dust again, the final legacy is going to be Spam. It will be the last surviving item -- when the anthropologists of 20 thousand years from now are digging sites and they see these enormous mountains of unopened cans of Spam They’ll have monuments to the past out of Spam.

So if Bush-Cheney has a second term in office, there will be some sort of currency restriction, like Nixon did in 1971. On April 13, 2004, Deputy Assistant Treasury Secretary John Boine talked about potential currency restrictions. He used the word that’s going to fuel the flames of the survivalist and gloom-and-doom collapse people.

It’s very, very telling that the U.S. Treasury may institute a restriction on the amount of U.S. dollars that can be converted into gold.

Furthermore, he intimated (and I suspected that this was coming, although this wouldn’t actually become law until Bush-Cheney was in office for second term one way or another) that the Bush-Cheney regime determines that the Gold Confiscation Act gives to Treasury the power for so-called forced disclosure of gold holdings.

I’m not quite sure of the language of the Gold Confiscation Act from 1933. It just says, "compelled", as in citizens are lawfully compelled to redeem gold for script. I don’t think there was any such provision, which he was inferring that there is. That was FDR’s "Raw Deal" of 1934, when people were coerced into giving up their gold. But nowhere in this act does it specifically authorize the Treasury to mandate citizens to report their gold holdings. So if this gets any press at all, particularly within the circles of gold bugs and so on, watch out.

Furthermore, on Washington Journal they were talking about how FEMA has recommended to the Office of Homeland Security to have increased restrictions regarding citizen hoarding of long-term food and fuel supplies. That’s pretty sinister too.

What they’re talking about is the purchase of long-term so-called stores of survival food. FEMA was talking about some sort of restriction preventing people from accumulating food stores; putting it simply, that’s what it means. The second point was to increase restrictions that already exist.

FEMA was recommending even tighter restrictions on citizens building their own private property underground storage tanks for the purposes of long-term storage of fuel. The real intent of this is is threefold: a) to restrict citizens’ ability to hoard food; b) restrict citizens’ ability to hoard long-term storage of fuel; c) the forced identification of citizens to reveal food and fuel stocks they may be hoarding.

And that, in my opinion, is the real essence. The Bush-Cheney regime was scared of having the FEMA angle put into the equation because they knew what it means and how people would interpret it.

They have tried to use environmental legislation to restrict people’s ability to build fuel storage facilities on their own property -- to get around what the true intent of that was.

But the bigger picture is that if you start to limit citizens’ ability to hoard fuel and food and shake them up by potential forced identification of gold holdings or forced redemption.

In other words, what you don’t want is citizens who have the ability to store a lot of food and fuel and to own gold because they would be able to resist state control in the future.

You’ve got to have every citizen on a rationing card to control the civilian population. You can’t have citizens out there hoarding food and fuel because then people can say to government,"I ain’t taking a rationing card, baby, with my national ID card. I don’t have to. You can’t control me through food and fuel and ever-worthless paper currency."

I used to make fun of these people. But now, things have come full circle on this debate. The Bush-Cheney regime is making it increasingly clear through their small changes in policy. Not a lot of people monitor these decisions, but I do. And the pattern is becoming increasingly clear.

In fact, I would believe that those of the survivalist mentality (the food, fuel, the gold coins in the coffee can in the back yard) people who think that way will be ultimately vindicated - if George Bush has a second term in office.

People should quit making fun of them because they would be vindicated - even though they were all burned out, twenty-dollared to death, buying books and tapes, and discredited by mainstream media. It may sound like a hollow victory, but it won’t be a hollow victory for them - them that’s got the Spam...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 475759

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loosecannon
User ID: 475788
7/30/2008 12:24 AM
Re: Get ready, US financial blogs, threads , sites to be policed/policiedQuote

AN IMPORTANT MESSAGE FOR loosecannon:


stfu skull_fing stfu
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 474822


back at you Omega!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 471107
7/30/2008 12:25 AM
Re: Get ready, US financial blogs, threads , sites to be policed/policiedQuote

"In fact, I would believe that those of the survivalist mentality (the food, fuel, the gold coins in the coffee can in the back yard) people who think that way will be ultimately vindicated - if George Bush has a second term in office."

I think they left out guns and ammo for which to protect and defend what is in their possession! If TSreallyHTF, lead will be one of the most important items to have on hand:

Executive Order 12919: "National Defense Industrial Resources Preparedness" signed by CLINTON June 3, 1994, delegates authorities, responsibilities and allocations of F.E.M.A.'s Executive Orders [last entry] for the confiscation of ALL PROPERTY from the American people, and their re-location and assignment to 'labor' camps. ......

Of what value would a stash of necessities do if one's family is separated and hauled off to a godforsaken internment camp? An armed nation is a free nation.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 475789
7/30/2008 12:28 AM
Re: Get ready, US financial blogs, threads , sites to be policed/policiedQuote

bsflag

[link to zaznews.blogspot.com]
FHL(C)
User ID: 475678
7/30/2008 12:32 AM
Re: Get ready, US financial blogs, threads , sites to be policed/policiedQuote

"Ok lets start with your hostility issues first, you have a need to express your self with expletives?, to cover inadequacies? the ability to sustain reasonable and concise argument? Sexual proclivities that are beginning to manifest beyond your conscious or reasons/will ability to control due to emotional quotient being orders of magnitude larger than your current shoe size IQ?"

FHL(C)
 Quoting: FHL(C)

Apologies to you Loose cannon, for what i said, it wasn't nice, and i shouldn't respond by lowering my standards
[link to freewordofgod.yuku.com]
loosecannon
User ID: 475788
7/30/2008 12:41 AM
Re: Get ready, US financial blogs, threads , sites to be policed/policiedQuote

The thread premise was pretty much zero value, but the article did contain this sanguine comment:

When credit-creation slows, the economy falters, unemployment rises and the misery index soars.

Credit contraction is the worse threat we face. Banks can come and go by the thousands. and that can still translate into a positive net outcome. In fact it usually does. Steps are taken to reign in excesses.

But a credit crunch can kill everything dead in it's tracks. Without enough money in circulation to facilitate the necessary transactions that distribute food and vital resources not only will the economy die, but most of us with it.

That is why it is IMPERITIVE that we not allow that to happen. But it already is. And if this board is worth anything at all this board needs to become a vehicle for spreading the word about what to do to correct the deepening credit crunch.

Most of the issues that folks ruminate over here are not dangerous. They threaten nobody. Derivatives meltdown, who cares, it only effects the false economy. Bank failures, who friggin cares, we can't correct excesses in the banking industry without it FAILING first. Mortgage collapses and defaults, well I admit that is dire to many on a personal level, but not the end of the line on a national level unless....

Unless it results in a runaway contraction.

The two most important words in your modern econ vocabulary are "RUNAWAY" followed by "CONTRACTION".

If'n the current runaway contraction gathers enough momentum to become critical your survival plans will be obsolete. And if it doesn't then there will be no need for em in the first place. At least not for 95% of us Americans. It could be far worse for the world's poorest billion or two.
loosecannon
User ID: 475788
7/30/2008 12:45 AM
Re: Get ready, US financial blogs, threads , sites to be policed/policiedQuote

"Ok lets start with your hostility issues first, you have a need to express your self with expletives?, to cover inadequacies? the ability to sustain reasonable and concise argument? Sexual proclivities that are beginning to manifest beyond your conscious or reasons/will ability to control due to emotional quotient being orders of magnitude larger than your current shoe size IQ?"

FHL(C)

Apologies to you Loose cannon, for what i said, it wasn't nice, and i shouldn't respond by lowering my standards
 Quoting: FHL(C)


Don't even apologize. For a start your commentary is so pale i haven't even bothered to pay any attention to your moniker yet.

But be advised, I will invite you into discussion in which you can't fake it, rely on hand jobs from allies or apply lame reasoning.

It's sink or swim time, and if you can't swim you better get outta the water.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 471107
7/30/2008 12:48 AM
Re: Get ready, US financial blogs, threads , sites to be policed/policiedQuote

loosecannon wrote:
"If'n the current runaway contraction gathers enough momentum to become critical your survival plans will be obsolete. And if it doesn't then there will be no need for em in the first place. At least not for 95% of us Americans. It could be far worse for the world's poorest billion or two."

Because of the if'ns, it's better to be prepared, to have it and not need it, rather to need it and not have it. Then stand!
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 475419
7/30/2008 12:49 AM
Re: Get ready, US financial blogs, threads , sites to be policed/policiedQuote

Ok here is another question.

Who knows what executive orders there are that cover how the media is allowed to operate, when said executive orders are actually exercised(especially lockdown procedure ones) and the consequences of civic/civil disobedience(in particular non cooperation or non action, that is refusing directives"orders")?
 Quoting: FHL(C)



Did anyone declare that "executive orders" were even legal or binding?
loosecannon
User ID: 475788
7/30/2008 12:59 AM
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He's pissed as I caught him in his bullshit and lies on this thread here:

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

As you can see, he falsely accused me of lying when as it is plain for all to see he seriously fucked up when I called him out on his bullshit, with the link. But I will post the text here lest his dishonest lying ass has gone back to page 2 of the thread in question and altered it:
 Quoting: Omega


You lying sack of shit, you absolutely misrepresented what I said, YOU lied.

I said that the reserve requirements were set by the board of presidents of the federal reserve, that the % of reserves had been lowered from 10% to 5% in the 90's and that there were blog rumors that it had been lowered to 108:1 but I was never able to confirm that despite spending considerable time looking for that info. It simply isn't posted by the federal reserve.

YOU, OMEGA, LIED. Deal with it liar.

Now why don't you pull your head out of the deep recesses of your anus and engage in econ discussion-debate so you can be schooled formally?


And you blocked my PM's because I nailed you. A blowhard with a prophet of doom complex, who eeks out his own validation and self esteem by living an internet lie.

You are the most thin skinned poster on the board, diametrically opposed to the persona you project. When you aren't skulking around trying to monitor my posting habits you are hiding behind the moniker AC.

Because you are in fact an anonymous coward.

Bring it on omega, lets talk econ.

You were too cowardly to enter the thread I started just to school you, so lets do it now. Bring your psychotic "prophet of doom" argument up here and now and lets brawl this out till you yell uncle. And you will. Trust me.

"Americans always do the right thing, after they have tried everything else" ~Winston Churchill

And THAT is what Omega will do. The right thing after he has tried every single wrong thing first.

But I have patience and i know he will come around. He has no choice.
loosecannon
User ID: 475788
7/30/2008 1:08 AM
Re: Get ready, US financial blogs, threads , sites to be policed/policiedQuote

loosecannon wrote:
"If'n the current runaway contraction gathers enough momentum to become critical your survival plans will be obsolete. And if it doesn't then there will be no need for em in the first place. At least not for 95% of us Americans. It could be far worse for the world's poorest billion or two."

Because of the if'ns, it's better to be prepared, to have it and not need it, rather to need it and not have it. Then stand!
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 471107



Fine, suit yourself. But the historical record is clear. No collapse has or likely will occur unless we enter a runaway contraction of the money supply.

The historical record shows us that IF that runaway contraction doesn't occur that you won't need a survival plan. And in todays world IF that contraction DOES occur, you are dead anyway.

Your little garden that doesn't grow any grain won't sustain you, nor will hunting, or raising livestock.

Little known fact: during the great depression poaching laws were still enforced, homes were still repossesed over tax defaults, even tho people were near starvation in many cases. And their land was their ONLY source of food.

Gold will be recalled, if shit gets real deep you will be beseiged by starving people if you have any food.

You aren't an island. You need salt, medicine etc.

Your only real chance is via helping preserve the distribution chain that has succesfully fed you every day since you were born.

Think about it, do you trust what has provided every single meal in your life or some half baked notion that you can earn a living off the land with skills you don't possess?
Skipper1975
User ID: 448826
7/30/2008 1:12 AM
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FU&FW

Its coming soon guys, Omega, thankyou for showing us who are definitely GLPs confirmed paid shills , to by the way

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An article in the San Francisco Business Times said that the FDIC is worried about the reporting on Internet blogs. They'd rather keep the information about the troubles in the banking system out of the news. Sheila Bair, chairman of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp., summed it up like this after the run on Indymac:

"The blogs were a bit out of control. We're very mindful of the media coverage and blogs in controlling misinformation. All I can say is were going to continue to stay on top of it. The misinformation that came out over the weekend fed a lot of depositors' fears."

Is that a threat? The cure for a failed banking system is adequate capital and prudent oversight not threats to impartial critics of the system. That's balderdash. Commissar Blair apparently believes that bloggers should be treated the same way as journalists in Iraq, who, if they veer ever so slightly from the Pentagon's "the surge is a great triumph" script, find themselves on the smoky end of an M-16 at some unmarked checkpoint outside Baquba.
 Quoting: FHL(C)



in other words..we dont want the truth getting out there


bankers=epic scam
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seebach77
User ID: 475805
7/30/2008 1:14 AM
Re: Get ready, US financial blogs, threads , sites to be policed/policiedQuote

In the pix online of all the folks in the long lines outside of Indymac, most were old timers... hardly the usual profile of Internet users.
Who of us wage-slaves could afford to call off work and go wait in line all day?!
I think it's just yet another desperate attempt by the FDIC/NWO wankers to try and control any dispersal of "bad" info to allow us to see what a clustermuck this entire Fed Reserve really has got our country into.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 471107
7/30/2008 1:26 AM
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loosecannon wrote:
"Fine, suit yourself. But the historical record is clear. No collapse has or likely will occur unless we enter a runaway contraction of the money supply."

That may be true, but the whole world is in deep doo-doo, so this financial system is more likely to collapse than not because of all of the dumb-dumbs who run it.

As I said, having supplies and not needing them is better than needing them and not having them. Ask the guy/gal who has lost their job if a well-stocked pantry and other necessessities would have helped while adjustments in their lost financial capacity were being considered: No job and little money to take care of other pressing issues.

I'm going with Rumsfeld's admonition to be prepared with at least 4 weeks supply of food and other necessities. Good thinking.

Argentina comes to mind with its riots. Don't need to be caught in the way of that!
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 291
7/30/2008 1:31 AM
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AN IMPORTANT MESSAGE FOR loosecannon:


stfu skull_fing stfu


back at you Omega!
 Quoting: loosecannon



back at you loosecannon you're such a bore.
loosecannon
User ID: 475788
7/30/2008 1:49 AM
Re: Get ready, US financial blogs, threads , sites to be policed/policiedQuote

so this financial system is more likely to collapse than not because of all of the dumb-dumbs who run it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 471107


absolutely false.

This whole economy could collapse. But it isn't likely soon and history suports that in bold, red, large font.

Stock up on food, that's great. But do what you can to avoid a worldwide economic collapse. Because your life may depend on it.
loosecannon
User ID: 475788
7/30/2008 1:52 AM
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AN IMPORTANT MESSAGE FOR loosecannon:


stfu skull_fing stfu


back at you Omega!



back at you loosecannon you're such a bore.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 291


Ditto, so stop posting BORON!

I mean seriously coward, are you too chickenshit to post other than as an AC? And why not try to speak your peace in english rather than pictures? Cat got your tongue?
Earth.Power
User ID: 475790
7/30/2008 2:01 AM
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You'd think the End was Nigh.



dark
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 473590
7/30/2008 2:06 AM
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If I see any FREEDOM OF SPEECH being shut down on the internet that probably will be my clue to RUN TO THE BANK.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 475829
7/30/2008 2:27 AM
Re: Get ready, US financial blogs, threads , sites to be policed/policiedQuote

This whole economy could collapse. But it isn't likely soon and history suports that in bold, red, large font.

Stock up on food, that's great. But do what you can to avoid a worldwide economic collapse. Because your life may depend on it.
 Quoting: loosecannon


Nobody said the economy would crash overnight, but we are at the boiling point and it is just a matter of time...one year...2 years? Deflation? Hyperinflation? Even the financial advisors on the web don't know for sure, but they are preparing for either event.

What do you propose that people should "to avoid a worldwide economic collapse"? We don't run the banks, don't make Congressional decisions, and the Federal Reserve hasn't asked for our advice seeing that they believe they are the "experts". We are sitting ducks. The selection of candidates for President isn't exactly going to help this situation, only make it worse.

There is so much secrecy in government that we must become reponsible for our individual welfare. If everybody did that, we'd be just fine.
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601abab1
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7/30/2008 3:38 AM
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Rota
User ID: 475808
7/30/2008 3:41 AM
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Its coming soon guys, Omega, thankyou for showing us who are definitely GLPs confirmed paid shills , to by the way
 Quoting: FHL(C)

Is there a link to what omega said about the shills?

"The blogs were a bit out of control. We're very mindful of the media coverage and blogs in controlling misinformation. All I can say is were going to continue to stay on top of it. The misinformation that came out over the weekend fed a lot of depositors' fears."
 Quoting: FHL(C)

What about the mis-information that they purposly put out everyday? Maybe some blogs posted wrong information because they read a few articles from the main Stream Media.


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7/30/2008 3:58 AM
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