"Worst coverup in the history of the military" Military personnel getting sick from vaccines-IMPORTANT

Please read the Following:

Recognizing disinformation in the media
Twenty-six ways to slander and intimidate conspiracy advocates
[link to www.isgp.eu]

The above will enlighten you as to what's going on.

Daniel

You are right, you are not a shill or neocon, you are not smart enough. Panic stricken luddite, now that fitts you to a "T."

No one said vaccines were perfectly safe. NOTHING is perfectly safe. You run a finite and real risk with EVERY activity in life, without exception.

So, there is a simple way to make sure you never have to face the risk of technology: Eliminate technology from your life. No buildings, no electricity, hell, no clothing, no dental fillings, no drugs, nothing, just your naked ass against the universe.

I suspect you won't last long. But then when you are swimming in the shallow end of the gene pool that is the risk you take.

If you don't like vacciness, fine by me, don't take em. Don't like modern medicine? No problem, don't use it. Don't like taking risk? Tough, life is risk. Get used to it.

Don't salute and sidestep, just don't try to spread your fear, panic and dread to your intellectual superiors.


One of the most idiotic things Ive seen on here. These soldiers dont have the luxury or even the inclination to have the ability or even just an opionion not get vaccinated. They are required to. When I was in the first war you had no choice to take the anthrax shot. They put you in line and thats where you stood until you got your shot. EVERYONE, even the company commanders.
People were dropping like flies. Didnt matter they had to get there shots.
When we got back and a handful of people got violently and terminally ill. They brushed it off saying it wasnt outside the realm of percentages of natural illness. This is total bull crap. I was in for over 7 years. I went to a lot of hot spots. Korea (during there elections) phillippines, thailand, japan, Honduras, Panama, Saudi.
I only saw one other person die. It was a self inflicted accident. He dropped a long range antenna on a high voltage power line. Ive been trying to find people I was over there with. For the most part unsuccessfully. I can find all of them but one that got out of the military before we went over there. But none that I was there with.

Technology? What does that have to do with this? This goes for all drugs and medications. How can you even justify in your own mind that the healthcare of our nation has anything to do with technology? It only has to do with one thing...period and thats money. It saddens me to hear people still talk that way.
My father passed away recently from colon cancer. HE had to go into treatment 3 times a week @ 20,000 a pop. He got so weak that I had to pick him up and put him in his truck. Some fucking technology.
Ive been finding links about peoples sucesses with natural
therapies. They are much greater then getting douced in chemicals that do more damage then good. The FDA, which controls this "technology" are employed (to a rather large extent) by these technological people. Dont you see the conflict of interest?

I bet you any ammount of money that:
1) someone in the government was either a partial owner of or had high interests in the Michigan company that invented and made the anthrax vaccination.
2) Along the way, there was an obstruction of the truth about the anthrax vaccination. (well I know the answer to this. After we were given the vaccination. We were given a pamphlet about the contents of the vaccination. They claimed it was just megadoses of vitamin D.)

I dont know dude.....you can look at it with a blind eye all you want. Thats your call. But dont even begin to think youre "inellectually superior" to anyone but yourself and then....think it over again.



Please explain to me the drop in smallpox, measeels, polio and a host of other diseases.


You can't, actually learning the statisticss, medicine, and methodology is far more work than simply parroting what you want to believe.

Many people believe Elvis is still alive. Does that mean he is, indeed, alive?

And, you have flown right over the real point: NO ONE HAS TO JOIN THE MILITARY. If you find the requirement for vaccination too frightening or burdensome, stay home. Do something else. No one is forced into military service.

So my original point remains valid: If you find a technology too frightening, avoid it. 0lying care you? Don't fly. Food frighten you? Grow your own. Vaccinations make you go weak with fear? Don't have them. There are essentially Avoiding vaccination is not all that hard.

Trying to spead your fear and ignorance is hardly productive, but when it is all you have, I suppose it is human nature to go with it. But it is seldom productive.





Please explain to me the drop in smallpox, measeels, polio and a host of other diseases.
A drop....none of them have an effective cure. Unless you also include homeopathic remidies. Youre the one that needs to do a little research. Open your eyes Im sure you'll be surprised at how crooked the pharmaceutical companies in connection to our goverment really is.
Its unbelieveable to me that you have no clue. Your defense is idiotic and Im begining to think youre some kid on mom's computer trying to act like an adult.

Youre the one missing the point all together.
And, you have flown right over the real point: NO ONE HAS TO JOIN THE MILITARY. If you find the requirement for vaccination too frightening or burdensome, stay home. Do something else. No one is forced into military service.

1)So with that youre saying we shouldnt have a military defense for our country. We should just defend our homes ourself and the person with the biggest and best guns..just gets blown away by a bomb.
2) Youre also saying that theyre in the military and the military can do what they want with them. Well they arent slaves and they arent guinea pigs. If the goverment fucks up then they should take care of the problems they directly caused for these kids that have defended our country.

Trying to spead your fear and ignorance is hardly productive, but when it is all you have, I suppose it is human nature to go with it. But it is seldom productive.
2nd most idiotic thing Ive heard on here. Youre the only ignorant one in this thread...well for the ones
IVe read. I gave you factual information and you come at me with this bull crap? Why dont you take your own advise. If you dont like reading it you dont have to....just go to another link.

SHR

READ THE WHALE SITE FOR STARTERS. AND JUST FOR STARTERS.

YOU KNOW WHAT THE LEGAL TERM "FATALLY FLAWED" MEANS

THEN ASK YOURSELF

WHY DO THEY PUT DEADLY DOSES OF MERCURY IN VACCINES.

WHY DO THEY THEN SAY "WE DONT KNOW THE EFFECT OF MERCURY ON BABIES"

WHY DO THEY THEN MARK THE REPORT "SECRET"

WHY DO THEY SAY THAT MERCURY IS REMOVED FROM VACCINES WHEN IT IS NOT.

WHY DO THEY BAN DANGEROUS VACCINES IN AMERICA, THEN IMPOSE THOSE SAME BANNED VACCINES ON AFRICA.


EVERY AND ANY BRANCH OF SCIENCE WILL NOT ACCEPT PROVING THE NEGATIVE. EXCEPT OF COURSE IMMUNOLOGY.

SEE THE POSTER ABOVE, STATISTICS, THINK OF THE LIVES SAVED. IMPOSSIBLE.

SAME ARGUMENT WAS USED WITH VIOX, 50,000 DEAD FOR A PAIN KILLER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THE RABIES VACCINE IS NOT A VACCINE, IT KILLS THE AGENTS CAUSING THE SICKNESS DIRECTLY. CANT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS.

GL

THIS IS AN INTERESTING VIEW AND EXPLANATION

QUOTE

The Belief in Vaccines

Dr. Sherri Tenpenny

I always find it interesting that a discussion over the topic of
vaccination can become "heated" and "volatile". Why is that?....would the
same debate rage over an antibiotic or an antihypertensive medicine if
there was evidence that it was causing harm?

Highly doubtful. It would be removed promptly from the market if deaths
resulted from its use. Even if deaths were suspected to be caused by a
medication, we stop using it until we prove it is safe.

Not so with a vaccine. We keep using it until we can "prove" it is causing
harm.

Why the double standard?

The doublespeak occurs because vaccination is built around a "belief"
system, and challenging the validity of vaccines challenges long-held
foundational beliefs. We BELIEVE that vaccines are safe; we BELIEVE that
vaccines are important for our health; we BELIEVE that vaccines will
protect us from infection; we BELIEVE that vaccines were the reason
infectious diseases decreased around the world. And we really want to
BELIEVE that our doctor has read all the available information on
vaccines--pro and con--and that s/he is telling us the complete truth about
vaccines......

However, belief is based on faith; not necessarily on fact.

With only a cursory review of the literature and CDC documents, one will
find the following facts:

1. No vaccine has ever been proven to be completely safe. Safety studies
are small and only include "healthy" children. However, after a study is
completed, vaccines are given to ALL children, regardless of underlying
health conditions or genetic predispositions. We have a "one size fits all"
national vaccination policy; one that does not allow for personal choice or
individualized options; and one that has caused a myriad of health problems
for many.

2. Observations for side effects continue for a maximum of 14 days during a
"safety study". Complex problems involving the immune system can take weeks
or even months to appear. This arbitrary 14 day cut off set by the FDA and
the pharmaceutical industry stops the observation long before complications
are likely to appear. This is the basis for their "vaccines are safe"
mantra but the long term and relatively unknown complications from vaccines
reveal that no vaccine is safe.

3. A vaccine "safety" study compares a new vaccine to a "placebo" to
determine the safety of the new vaccine. When we examine the study a little
more closely, we discover that the "placebo" is NOT a benign, inert
substance, such as saline or water. The "placebo" is another vaccine with a
"known safety profile." So if the new vaccine has the same side effects as
the "placebo", the new vaccine is called "safe."


4. Vaccines are said to confer protection by causing the development of
antibodies. However, there are many references in CDC documents (the
Highest Authority in the land regarding vaccines) which reveal that
antibodies don't necessarily protect us from infection. Here are a few
examples from medical journals and CDC documents:

Pertussis: "The findings of efficacy studies have not demonstrated a direct
correlation between antibody response and protection against pertussis
disease." MMWR March 28, 1997/Vol.46/No. RR-7, p.4

H. Flu (HiB): "The antibody contribution to clinical protection is unknown."
---HibTITER package insert
"The precise level of antibody required for protection against HiB invasive
disease is not clearly established."
[link to www.cdc.gov]

Smallpox: "Neutralizing antibodies are reported to reflect levels of
protection, although this has not been validated in the field." JAMA June
9,1999, Vol. 281, No. 22, p.3132

5. We want to "believe" that if we receive a vaccine, we will be protected
from the infection. Several medical journal articles document that this is
not necessarily so. Here are a few examples:

Pertussis Infection in Fully Vaccinated Children in Day-Care Centers, Israel
(Emerging Infectious Diseases Vol. 6, No. 5; Sep-Oct 2000)

Pertussis in the Highly Vaccinated Population, The Netherlands
(Emerging Infectious Diseases Vol. 6, No. 4 July-Aug 2000)

Pertussis in North-West Western Australia in 1999; all vaccinated.
(Communicable Diseases Intelligence 2000 Vol 2 4 No 12)

The debate surrounding the use of vaccines goes back and forth with "data"
and "studies" used to support both sides. But the bottom line is this:

Vaccination has been "accepted" as safe, effective and protective for
nearly 200 years. It is a "sacred cow" and with all "sacred cows", people
react with a visceral response, when someone suggests that the "cow" should
be "sacrificed". There are many examples of this over the centuries:
Copernicus who insisted that the Sun is the Center of the solar system and
Semmelweiss who showed that doctors performing hand washing saved women's
lives. Both men were ridiculed in their day. It is heresy to suggest that
the "status quo" is wrong.


Statistics have shown that when presented with a new, different,
challenging idea, 96% of people will spend their time and energy defending
their current beliefs and only 4% will embrace the idea as something to
seriously consider.

When you research vaccinations and the vaccine industry, you will find that
your "foundational beliefs" regarding vaccines will be seriously
challenged. When you begin to study the negative effects--both actual and
theoretical--that vaccines have on the immune system, you will likely
become part of the 4% who understand that "truth" about vaccines is not
really "The Truth" and that the mandatory vaccination policies currently
being enforced must be changed.


Dr. Sherri Tenpenny
New Medical Awareness Seminars
www.nmaseminars.com
2002


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GL

Please explain to me the drop in smallpox, measeels, polio and a host of other diseases.
A drop....none of them have an effective cure.

Please explain to me the drop in smallpox, measeels, polio and a host of other diseases.
A drop....none of them have an effective cure.


Huh? Smallpox didn't just drop a little. It was ERADICATED.
Millions of children in Africa live each year because of
Measles vaccination. Polio disappeared in the US!

How do you explain that?

Huh? Smallpox didn't just drop a little. It was ERADICATED.
Millions of children in Africa live each year because of
Measles vaccination. Polio disappeared in the US!

How do you explain that?

Seems Grey Lensman comes to different Conclusions than you.
My last 2 posts were Quotes of Grey Lensman - from the below thread Started by Grizzled Goat -
Polio outbreak in Nigeria: The culprit? The WHO and the oral Polio vaccine
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Reasonable Discussion by ALL - Imagine that!!!
Daniel

a) Homeopathy? You have got to be kidding. Name me one reputable study published in a peer reviewed medical journal that shows homeopathy to be effective.

b) Smallpox isn't just reducedd, Sparky, it is eliminated. There has not been a single case of smallpox in decades. Vaccines eliminated smallpox, not homeopathy, not wishful thinking, vaccines backed up by the collected scientific wisdom of humanity.

c) Where did I say anything about not wanting the nation to be defended? You are practicing what is called the strawman argument, a basic logical fallacy commonly found in grade schools. I said nothing about defending homes. You are trying to put words in my mouth, quite unsuccessfully I may add.
d) To remind you what I did say: If vaccination frightens you and they are required in the military the solution to the problem is simple: DON'T JOIN THE MILITARY. Most folks are made of sterner stuff than the anto vaccination crowd, but they have every right to be ignorant and cowardly.