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A YOUNG goth has died after she and her lover were savagely beaten by a gang for the way they looked.

Sophie Lancaster, 20, and Robert Maltby, 21, were kicked in the face and head so viciously cops couldn’t tell if they were male or female.

Both fell into comas after the assault in the early hours of Saturday August 11.

Sophie never came round and died yesterday.

Art student Robert, who suffered bleeding on the brain, was well enough to be allowed out of the hospital where he is being treated to visit her on Wednesday.

Their families said Sophie and Robert had faced trouble before because they were Goths who dressed in black.

Both had dyed hair and facial piercings.

They were set upon as they walked through Stubbylee Park in their home town of Bacup, Lancs.

Cops said the unsuspecting couple suffered multiple head and face injuries in the attack, and were rushed to Rochdale Infirmary.

Robert ? described by his family as “disorientated and confused” since the beating ? is now at Birch Hill Hospital in Rochdale.

Student Sophie was eventually transferred to Hope Hospital in Salford, Greater Manchester, where she died.

Her grieving parents, Sylvia and John, said yesterday: “We were proud to know our daughter ? she was funny, kind, loving and brave.

“She was a beautiful girl with a social conscience and values which made her a joy to know.

“Not being able to see her blossom into her full potential, or even to see her smile again, is a tragedy beyond words.”

Police said: “This incident has resulted in the senseless loss of a vibrant young woman.”

Two youths of 17 and three of 15 from Rossendale Valley, Lancs, have been charged with GBH with intent.

The charges will now be reviewed, cops said yesterday.

Two youths are in custody and the others are on bail to appear in court next month.

g.patrick@the-sun.co.uk

Someone said those kids only got a couple of years.
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I didn't realize her boyfriend was beaten to death too.
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As a jaded ex-goth myself, I would say it doesn't surprise me. It's more widespread than it was years ago, but I think the unnecessary hatred is still there. I had the police called on me once when I was walking home from the store, security guards would follow me at the mall, I even had a bottle thrown at my head by some dick driving by. I was even questioned for cheating in a class because I was getting high grades... I guess they didn't expect it.

I just don't get it. There are so many people who can't handle even the slightest bit of differentiation from the "norm", that it shakes them up soooo much and they just turn into rabid animals. Fuck people.
Well it seems so real I can see it
And it seems so real I can feel it
And it seems so real I can taste it
And it seems so real I can hear it
So why can't I touch it?
So why can't I touch it?


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Oh good at least he's still alive. But can you imagine what he lives with now?
That would hurt and haunt you for life.
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A YOUNG goth has died after she and her lover were savagely beaten by a gang for the way they looked.

Sophie Lancaster, 20, and Robert Maltby, 21, were kicked in the face and head so viciously cops couldn’t tell if they were male or female.

Both fell into comas after the assault in the early hours of Saturday August 11.

Sophie never came round and died yesterday.

Art student Robert, who suffered bleeding on the brain, was well enough to be allowed out of the hospital where he is being treated to visit her on Wednesday.

Their families said Sophie and Robert had faced trouble before because they were Goths who dressed in black.

Both had dyed hair and facial piercings.

They were set upon as they walked through Stubbylee Park in their home town of Bacup, Lancs.

Cops said the unsuspecting couple suffered multiple head and face injuries in the attack, and were rushed to Rochdale Infirmary.

Robert ? described by his family as “disorientated and confused” since the beating ? is now at Birch Hill Hospital in Rochdale.

Student Sophie was eventually transferred to Hope Hospital in Salford, Greater Manchester, where she died.

Her grieving parents, Sylvia and John, said yesterday: “We were proud to know our daughter ? she was funny, kind, loving and brave.

“She was a beautiful girl with a social conscience and values which made her a joy to know.

“Not being able to see her blossom into her full potential, or even to see her smile again, is a tragedy beyond words.”

Police said: “This incident has resulted in the senseless loss of a vibrant young woman.”

Two youths of 17 and three of 15 from Rossendale Valley, Lancs, have been charged with GBH with intent.

The charges will now be reviewed, cops said yesterday.

Two youths are in custody and the others are on bail to appear in court next month.

g.patrick@the-sun.co.uk

Someone said those kids only got a couple of years.
 Quoting: Freedom Lover



Is this class hatred, or racial hatred?
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Re: Beautiful young girl beaten to death for looking Goth
A YOUNG goth has died after she and her lover were savagely beaten by a gang for the way they looked.

Sophie Lancaster, 20, and Robert Maltby, 21, were kicked in the face and head so viciously cops couldn’t tell if they were male or female.

Both fell into comas after the assault in the early hours of Saturday August 11.

Sophie never came round and died yesterday.

Art student Robert, who suffered bleeding on the brain, was well enough to be allowed out of the hospital where he is being treated to visit her on Wednesday.

Their families said Sophie and Robert had faced trouble before because they were Goths who dressed in black.

Both had dyed hair and facial piercings.

They were set upon as they walked through Stubbylee Park in their home town of Bacup, Lancs.

Cops said the unsuspecting couple suffered multiple head and face injuries in the attack, and were rushed to Rochdale Infirmary.

Robert ? described by his family as “disorientated and confused” since the beating ? is now at Birch Hill Hospital in Rochdale.

Student Sophie was eventually transferred to Hope Hospital in Salford, Greater Manchester, where she died.

Her grieving parents, Sylvia and John, said yesterday: “We were proud to know our daughter ? she was funny, kind, loving and brave.

“She was a beautiful girl with a social conscience and values which made her a joy to know.

“Not being able to see her blossom into her full potential, or even to see her smile again, is a tragedy beyond words.”

Police said: “This incident has resulted in the senseless loss of a vibrant young woman.”

Two youths of 17 and three of 15 from Rossendale Valley, Lancs, have been charged with GBH with intent.

The charges will now be reviewed, cops said yesterday.

Two youths are in custody and the others are on bail to appear in court next month.

g.patrick@the-sun.co.uk

Someone said those kids only got a couple of years.



Is this class hatred, or racial hatred?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 476302

Just plain vile hatred
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
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yeah we know. it was last year.
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Well, aren't goths into hate? So this is just something they condone then. Wouldn't they have done the same thing to somebody else? Their whole thing is hate and violence.
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As a jaded ex-goth myself, I would say it doesn't surprise me. It's more widespread than it was years ago, but I think the unnecessary hatred is still there. I had the police called on me once when I was walking home from the store, security guards would follow me at the mall, I even had a bottle thrown at my head by some dick driving by. I was even questioned for cheating in a class because I was getting high grades... I guess they didn't expect it.

I just don't get it. There are so many people who can't handle even the slightest bit of differentiation from the "norm", that it shakes them up soooo much and they just turn into rabid animals. Fuck people.
 Quoting: Babe in a Bunker

If they don't like the way someone looks why not turn their head.
Maybe some people don't like preps or sk8ters.
Same goes.
She was a beautiful girl though.
Never showed a pic of him.
It's all too sad.
My daughter dressed all in black at the beginning of middle school and dyed her hair black too with temporary dye.
Some boys and girls gathered around her and started kicking her so hard in her legs she was bruised and bleeding.
The school did nothing and she was almost ready to commit suicide.
I raised so much hell with that school.
But to no avail.
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yeah we know. it was last year.
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I didn't. My daughters friend just showed me.
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Well, aren't goths into hate? So this is just something they condone then. Wouldn't they have done the same thing to somebody else? Their whole thing is hate and violence.
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Bullshit!
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Well, aren't goths into hate? So this is just something they condone then. Wouldn't they have done the same thing to somebody else? Their whole thing is hate and violence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 475577

So you condone it then?
You don't know how all people who dress Goth think.
And neither do I.
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A YOUNG goth has died after she and her lover were savagely beaten by a gang for the way they looked.

Sophie Lancaster, 20, and Robert Maltby, 21, were kicked in the face and head so viciously cops couldn’t tell if they were male or female.

Both fell into comas after the assault in the early hours of Saturday August 11.

Sophie never came round and died yesterday.

Art student Robert, who suffered bleeding on the brain, was well enough to be allowed out of the hospital where he is being treated to visit her on Wednesday.

Their families said Sophie and Robert had faced trouble before because they were Goths who dressed in black.

Both had dyed hair and facial piercings.

They were set upon as they walked through Stubbylee Park in their home town of Bacup, Lancs.

Cops said the unsuspecting couple suffered multiple head and face injuries in the attack, and were rushed to Rochdale Infirmary.

Robert ? described by his family as “disorientated and confused” since the beating ? is now at Birch Hill Hospital in Rochdale.

Student Sophie was eventually transferred to Hope Hospital in Salford, Greater Manchester, where she died.

Her grieving parents, Sylvia and John, said yesterday: “We were proud to know our daughter ? she was funny, kind, loving and brave.

“She was a beautiful girl with a social conscience and values which made her a joy to know.

“Not being able to see her blossom into her full potential, or even to see her smile again, is a tragedy beyond words.”

Police said: “This incident has resulted in the senseless loss of a vibrant young woman.”

Two youths of 17 and three of 15 from Rossendale Valley, Lancs, have been charged with GBH with intent.

The charges will now be reviewed, cops said yesterday.

Two youths are in custody and the others are on bail to appear in court next month.

g.patrick@the-sun.co.uk

Someone said those kids only got a couple of years.



Is this class hatred, or racial hatred?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 476302

It's just hatred plain and simple I think. They hated how they looked so they beat them to death for it.
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A YOUNG goth has died after she and her lover were savagely beaten by a gang for the way they looked.

Sophie Lancaster, 20, and Robert Maltby, 21, were kicked in the face and head so viciously cops couldn’t tell if they were male or female.

Both fell into comas after the assault in the early hours of Saturday August 11.

Sophie never came round and died yesterday.

Art student Robert, who suffered bleeding on the brain, was well enough to be allowed out of the hospital where he is being treated to visit her on Wednesday.

Their families said Sophie and Robert had faced trouble before because they were Goths who dressed in black.

Both had dyed hair and facial piercings.

They were set upon as they walked through Stubbylee Park in their home town of Bacup, Lancs.

Cops said the unsuspecting couple suffered multiple head and face injuries in the attack, and were rushed to Rochdale Infirmary.

Robert ? described by his family as “disorientated and confused” since the beating ? is now at Birch Hill Hospital in Rochdale.

Student Sophie was eventually transferred to Hope Hospital in Salford, Greater Manchester, where she died.

Her grieving parents, Sylvia and John, said yesterday: “We were proud to know our daughter ? she was funny, kind, loving and brave.

“She was a beautiful girl with a social conscience and values which made her a joy to know.

“Not being able to see her blossom into her full potential, or even to see her smile again, is a tragedy beyond words.”

Police said: “This incident has resulted in the senseless loss of a vibrant young woman.”

Two youths of 17 and three of 15 from Rossendale Valley, Lancs, have been charged with GBH with intent.

The charges will now be reviewed, cops said yesterday.

Two youths are in custody and the others are on bail to appear in court next month.

g.patrick@the-sun.co.uk

Someone said those kids only got a couple of years.



Is this class hatred, or racial hatred?

Just plain vile hatred
 Quoting: mathetes

I agree
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`Sophie Lancaster, 20, and Robert Maltby, 21, were kicked in the face and head so viciously cops couldn’t tell if they were male or female.'


Male and female goths dress exactly the same anyway. No wonder it was difficult lol.
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so terrible. :(
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Someone said those kids only got a couple of years.
 Quoting: Freedom Lover


Sentencing in the case was set for April 28, 2008.Both Harris and Herbert were sentenced to life imprisonment with the trial judge recommending that Harris should serve at least 18 years and Herbert at least 16 years.

In his closing remarks the judge described the attack as "feral thuggery" which raised serious questions about the "sort of society which exists in this country". He added: "This was a terrible case which has shocked and outraged all who have heard about it. At least wild animals, when they hunt in packs, have a legitimate reason for so doing, to obtain food. You have none and your behaviour on that night degrades humanity itself."

The three other defendants were also sentenced for their role in the attack. Brothers Joseph and Danny Hulme, and Daniel Mallett, who had all earlier pleaded guilty to grievous bodily harm with intent on Mr Maltby, were jailed. Mallett was sentenced to four years and four months, and the Hulme brothers for five years and ten months each.

On June 13th, it was reported that all the defendants were appealing against the sentences set for their convictions
 Quoting: [link to en.wikipedia.org]


It's a real sad example of what some of the scum roaming our streets are capable of.

Feral is the right word, and it's shocking to think that they can kill people just because they are different to themselves. Any excuse.

I've been subject to intimidation on the streets, I know many others who have experienced the same, along with violence, and other crime such as mugging.

It's disgusting, and rampant.

About time that people realised scociety right now has some major flaws, and we need to change it, before it's too late.
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Well, aren't goths into hate? So this is just something they condone then. Wouldn't they have done the same thing to somebody else? Their whole thing is hate and violence.

So you condone it then?
You don't know how all people who dress Goth think.
And neither do I.
 Quoting: Freedom Lover


No of course not, those kids didn't deserve that. I don't agree with it, but some people call these things to themselves just for the fact for what it represents. Just like the skin head wannabes with shaved heads and swastika tattoos. Its like a gang member brings violence upon themselves just by being in the gang. And the worst part is is those kids were probably from a well to do family, were the gang member and skin head had a screwed up life.
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`Sophie Lancaster, 20, and Robert Maltby, 21, were kicked in the face and head so viciously cops couldn’t tell if they were male or female.'


Male and female goths dress exactly the same anyway. No wonder it was difficult lol.
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That's not funny at all.
They were young and now she will never open her eyes anymore to see a sun rise, a future husband, children or a career she might have enjoyed.
She never even got to be.
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Well, aren't goths into hate? So this is just something they condone then. Wouldn't they have done the same thing to somebody else? Their whole thing is hate and violence.

So you condone it then?
You don't know how all people who dress Goth think.
And neither do I.
 Quoting: Freedom Lover



I think Goths are just young kids and it's just a passing phase.
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`Sophie Lancaster, 20, and Robert Maltby, 21, were kicked in the face and head so viciously cops couldn’t tell if they were male or female.'


Male and female goths dress exactly the same anyway. No wonder it was difficult lol.

That's not funny at all.
They were young and now she will never open her eyes anymore to see a sun rise, a future husband, children or a career she might have enjoyed.
She never even got to be.
 Quoting: Freedom Lover


TRUE.

But, I was wandering, Did the Goths attract this by worshiping the goat?
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And when I call for peace i get mocked. How sad is that ?
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Article on Goth religion:

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Someone said those kids only got a couple of years.



Sentencing in the case was set for April 28, 2008.Both Harris and Herbert were sentenced to life imprisonment with the trial judge recommending that Harris should serve at least 18 years and Herbert at least 16 years.

In his closing remarks the judge described the attack as "feral thuggery" which raised serious questions about the "sort of society which exists in this country". He added: "This was a terrible case which has shocked and outraged all who have heard about it. At least wild animals, when they hunt in packs, have a legitimate reason for so doing, to obtain food. You have none and your behaviour on that night degrades humanity itself."

The three other defendants were also sentenced for their role in the attack. Brothers Joseph and Danny Hulme, and Daniel Mallett, who had all earlier pleaded guilty to grievous bodily harm with intent on Mr Maltby, were jailed. Mallett was sentenced to four years and four months, and the Hulme brothers for five years and ten months each.

On June 13th, it was reported that all the defendants were appealing against the sentences set for their convictions

It's a real sad example of what some of the scum roaming our streets are capable of.

Feral is the right word, and it's shocking to think that they can kill people just because they are different to themselves. Any excuse.

I've been subject to intimidation on the streets, I know many others who have experienced the same, along with violence, and other crime such as mugging.

It's disgusting, and rampant.

About time that people realised scociety right now has some major flaws, and we need to change it, before it's too late.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 475917

I definitely agree
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`Sophie Lancaster, 20, and Robert Maltby, 21, were kicked in the face and head so viciously cops couldn’t tell if they were male or female.'


Male and female goths dress exactly the same anyway. No wonder it was difficult lol.

That's not funny at all.
They were young and now she will never open her eyes anymore to see a sun rise, a future husband, children or a career she might have enjoyed.
She never even got to be.
 Quoting: Freedom Lover


It's things like this that make me want to just leave....


This *&^$@&^%@*( planet that is....
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And when I call for peace i get mocked. How sad is that ?
 Quoting: Spirit * Man ! 418811

So keep calling for it! Everyone is mocked from time to time but there is always someone who you will reach even if they do not reply.
Maybe they LOVE peace so much they do not want to have to reply to all the mockery.
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But, I was wandering, Did the Goths attract this by worshiping the goat?
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Oh just wait until you discover just who has really been worshiping the "goat" all along..

All the manipulated conditioned close minded fuckers are in for a HUGE SHOCK OF A REVELATION...

"Better with a LIE than the worlds ever seen!"
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goths are not into hate, they are just people like everyone else, who happen to have different interests that are outside what society considers normal.
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`Sophie Lancaster, 20, and Robert Maltby, 21, were kicked in the face and head so viciously cops couldn’t tell if they were male or female.'


Male and female goths dress exactly the same anyway. No wonder it was difficult lol.

That's not funny at all.
They were young and now she will never open her eyes anymore to see a sun rise, a future husband, children or a career she might have enjoyed.
She never even got to be.


It's things like this that make me want to just leave....


This *&^$@&^%@*( planet that is....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 473861

Well don't ever follow through on that feeling because we need people like you here because you are a light in the darkness.
You show it because you do not believe in this violence on a young girl and boy.
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Some goth women are beautiful.
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And when I call for peace i get mocked. How sad is that ?

So keep calling for it! Everyone is mocked from time to time but there is always someone who you will reach even if they do not reply.
Maybe they LOVE peace so much they do not want to have to reply to all the mockery.
 Quoting: Freedom Lover



If i havent stopped for the last 40 years i dont believe i will ever stop lol

Wowww you wouldnt believe all the names i have been called. Right here at GLP to....lets see..."pussy, faggot, wimp, girly man, commie, liberal, lefty, hippy, bleeding heart, lunatic, manic depressive, dreamer, naive, gullible, fool, idiot, moron, child like, goofy, stupid"...etc etc. Oh sure i have attacked back on occasion after all i am human to ...but i always acknowledged my mortal self ...and I always offered the olive branch of peace afterwards and very rarely are there any takers. Hey i aint perfect but i am trying to do the right thing.

peace : )

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