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| theresident (OP) User ID: 379066 07/31/2008 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BRANDON - Thirty-six passengers of a Greyhound bus travelling from Edmonton to Winnipeg Thursday night watched in horror as a fellow passenger stabbed another man sleeping next to him, eventually decapitating him and waving the man's severed head. "He didn't do anything to provoke the guy. They guy just took a knife out and stabbed him, started stabbing him like crazy and cut his head off," said Garnet Caton, 36, a passenger. The bus made an emergency stop, and passengers fled in terror onto the Trans-Canada Highway while the bus's driver and a driver of a nearby truck shut the crazed man inside the bus with the victim. Passengers say they stood outside the bus and watched through the window, horrified, as the man disfigured the victim's body. By 10:30 p.m. the eastbound bus was stopped on the highway about 10 kilometres east of Portage La Prairie, surrounded by RCMP cruisers. Caton and others said once they escaped, they prevented the attacker from getting off the bus by threatening him with makeshift weapons like a hammer and a metal bar. "We were telling him, 'Stay put, stay put, stay there, don't try to come out!' He tried to get the bus working and the bus driver disabled the bus somehow in the back, I'm not sure how he did it, and at that point, I think the police showed up," he said, adding officers rushed the passengers away. "Some people were puking, some people were crying, other people were in shock ... everybody was running, screaming off the bus." Caton described the man who attacked the passenger as about six feet tall, 200 pounds, with a bald head and wearing sunglasses. He seemed oblivious to others when the stabbing occurred, said Caton. Caton said the victim boarded in Edmonton, was aboriginal in appearance, was wearing hip-hop clothing, and appeared to be about 20 years of age. "When we saw the head, we knew he was dead," he said. "I don't think the guy knew him at all. I think he was really crazy... the poor guy, he didn't see it coming." Two yellow school buses were brought in to the closed-off stretch of highway near MacGregor for passengers to sit in while the stand-off between officers and the man inside the bus proceeded for hours. Caton said the attacker was only on the bus for a brief period of time, after boarding in western Manitoba. The passengers were later taken to Brandon to be interviewed by police and to stay overnight at a hotel there. Crisis counsellors were also at the hotel to provide support to the passengers, and counsellors could be seen chatting with them outside the hotel as groups went out to local stores for snacks or to smoke cigarettes. One small boy, who was with an adult man and woman, was given a plush teddy bear by a crisis health worker. Another young man from Nova Scotia sat outside the Brandon hotel smoking around 3 a.m. Visibly shaken, he said RCMP had taken 36 witnesses in for questioning. He said later: "I felt bad that all the young people and old people had to see that." The man, who did not want his name used, said the victim of the stabbing had been sleeping before the attack. Other passengers said that the two men were sitting in the rear of the bus and the stabbing victim was listening to music through his headphones. The attack appeared to be unprovoked. "The first thing I heard was something like a terrible type (of) yowl and that was from the guy who got stabbed," said an elderly woman from Winnipeg who was on the bus. The woman and her adult daughter said they were three or four rows in front of the suspect when the attack began. "(My daughter said) 'Oh my God' and everybody else started screaming," she said. "They had terror in their eyes." Passengers said there was a rush of people towards the front of the bus to get off. An RCMP spokesman could not be reached early today to confirm whether the man was taken into custody. Two other passengers on the bus, a 22-year-old man and 21-year-old woman, from France, said they were heading to Winnipeg after visiting the woman's father in Whitehorse. The 22-year-old man said in French that he saw a man holding a long kitchen knife repeatedly stab another passenger. He and his girlfriend said they were shocked by the attack, and the isolation in the middle of the prairies when it occurred. "There was nowhere to go," she said. [link to www.winnipegfreepress.com] |
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| Sandalphon User ID: 380499 07/31/2008 10:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What an unbelievably bizarre story. You mean the news media there couldn't get a name/face or a sniff of a motive as to why this was done? I have to admit, I think this is the first decapitation that I've EVER heard of in Canada. |
| theresident (OP) User ID: 379066 07/31/2008 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What an unbelievably bizarre story. Quoting: Sandalphon 380499You mean the news media there couldn't get a name/face or a sniff of a motive as to why this was done? I have to admit, I think this is the first decapitation that I've EVER heard of in Canada. Nothing yet. |
| Omega User ID: 357757 07/31/2008 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Manchurian kill. Research the victims background.... Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science. _____________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner. Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide. Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice. |
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| theresident (OP) User ID: 379066 07/31/2008 10:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | >>>Caton said the victim boarded in Edmonton, was aboriginal in appearance, was wearing hip-hop clothing, and appeared to be about 20 years of age.<<< Quoting: Anonymous Coward 317540Rap music set the guy off? Seems random to me, but who knows? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 422730 07/31/2008 10:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | >>>Caton said the victim boarded in Edmonton, was aboriginal in appearance, was wearing hip-hop clothing, and appeared to be about 20 years of age.<<< Quoting: Anonymous Coward 317540Rap music set the guy off? [link to www.canada.com] What does "aboriginal in appearance" mean in this context, I live in AU? |
| theresident (OP) User ID: 379066 07/31/2008 10:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Caton described the attacker as surprisingly calm. "It was like he was at the beach or something. There was no rage in him. He wasn't swearing or cursing or anything. It was just like he was a robot or something." [link to www.cbc.ca] |
| Schmieder User ID: 324203 07/31/2008 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is why we need to outlaw knives -- especially the "assault knives" like the one that fascist right-wing neocon NKA-member knife-nut used to murder the passenger. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 466242WRONG!!!! that is a deliberate assault on our freedoms. Had EVERYONE packed a 9mm, I doubt he would have done it. And if he did anyways, nothing can stop it, unfortunately. We, as a people, need weapons to protect ourselves. Yeah, outlaw knives, LMFAO. A criminal would make one from a coffee cup lid. No shit, they will and they do now in prisons and it will still kill the same. The only thing outlawing weapons would do is take them away from the 'good' guys. Criminals will still carry them. That will only make the situation worse. Sorry, but I disagree entirely with that idea. |
| Omega User ID: 357757 07/31/2008 10:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is why we need to outlaw knives -- especially the "assault knives" like the one that fascist right-wing neocon NKA-member knife-nut used to murder the passenger. Quoting: Schmieder 324203WRONG!!!! that is a deliberate assault on our freedoms. Had EVERYONE packed a 9mm, I doubt he would have done it. And if he did anyways, nothing can stop it, unfortunately. We, as a people, need weapons to protect ourselves. Yeah, outlaw knives, LMFAO. A criminal would make one from a coffee cup lid. No shit, they will and they do now in prisons and it will still kill the same. The only thing outlawing weapons would do is take them away from the 'good' guys. Criminals will still carry them. That will only make the situation worse. Sorry, but I disagree entirely with that idea. I concur. I propose we outlaw rocks-you could kill someone with a rock ya know.... And pantyhose-you could strangle someone with pantyhose ya know.... On and on and on...... Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science. _____________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner. Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide. Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice. |
| Sandalphon User ID: 380499 07/31/2008 10:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Caton described the attacker as surprisingly calm. "It was like he was at the beach or something. There was no rage in him. He wasn't swearing or cursing or anything. It was just like he was a robot or something." Quoting: theresident[link to www.cbc.ca] Can you imagine what kind of strength and intensity you would need inside of you to SAW a man's head off?? I donubt if that would be an easy task. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 201927 07/31/2008 10:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is why we need to outlaw knives -- especially the "assault knives" like the one that fascist right-wing neocon NKA-member knife-nut used to murder the passenger. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 466242I hope this is a joke. |
| theresident (OP) User ID: 379066 07/31/2008 10:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | >>>Caton said the victim boarded in Edmonton, was aboriginal in appearance, was wearing hip-hop clothing, and appeared to be about 20 years of age.<<< Quoting: Anonymous Coward 422730Rap music set the guy off? [link to www.canada.com] What does "aboriginal in appearance" mean in this context, I live in AU? A person who belongs to a recognized indigenous group. |
| Omega User ID: 357757 07/31/2008 11:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Caton described the attacker as surprisingly calm. "It was like he was at the beach or something. There was no rage in him. He wasn't swearing or cursing or anything. It was just like he was a robot or something." Quoting: Sandalphon 380499[link to www.cbc.ca] Can you imagine what kind of strength and intensity you would need inside of you to SAW a man's head off?? I donubt if that would be an easy task. I do believe it would have to have a serrated edge to saw thru the spine... Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science. _____________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner. Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide. Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice. |
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| Mi'Kmaq User ID: 394007 07/31/2008 11:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | >>>Caton said the victim boarded in Edmonton, was aboriginal in appearance, was wearing hip-hop clothing, and appeared to be about 20 years of age.<<< Quoting: Anonymous Coward 422730Rap music set the guy off? [link to www.canada.com] What does "aboriginal in appearance" mean in this context, I live in AU? Native American! |
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| Sireen-reborn User ID: 472239 07/31/2008 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Manchurian kill. Research the victims background.... Quoting: OmegaThe kid was 18...what background? anything after 'but' is bullshit! [link to www.myspace.com] "Once you open your mind to the possibility of conspiracy, you then see conspiracy in everything." [link to deadbydecember-sireen.blogspot.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 474758 07/31/2008 11:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is why we need to outlaw knives -- especially the "assault knives" like the one that fascist right-wing neocon NKA-member knife-nut used to murder the passenger. Quoting: OmegaWRONG!!!! that is a deliberate assault on our freedoms. Had EVERYONE packed a 9mm, I doubt he would have done it. And if he did anyways, nothing can stop it, unfortunately. We, as a people, need weapons to protect ourselves. Yeah, outlaw knives, LMFAO. A criminal would make one from a coffee cup lid. No shit, they will and they do now in prisons and it will still kill the same. The only thing outlawing weapons would do is take them away from the 'good' guys. Criminals will still carry them. That will only make the situation worse. Sorry, but I disagree entirely with that idea. I concur. I propose we outlaw rocks-you could kill someone with a rock ya know.... And pantyhose-you could strangle someone with pantyhose ya know.... On and on and on...... Hell, outlaw the human mouth and tongue. They are the weapon of many injuries. |