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UAE Demands Iran Surrender Territory For US Blockade Operations

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Anonymous Coward
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8/1/2008 8:49 AM
Re: UAE Demands Iran Surrender Territory For US Blockade OperationsQuote

wuhfaint This is totally insane!!!
kits
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8/1/2008 10:19 AM
Re: UAE Demands Iran Surrender Territory For US Blockade OperationsQuote

bump
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Anonymous Coward
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8/1/2008 12:01 PM
Re: UAE Demands Iran Surrender Territory For US Blockade OperationsQuote

1- DoD has already stated intentions to invade and use those islands during this sort of scenario to supplement their capabilities.

2- Hormuz would be the primary objective. The USN would not ignore Hormuz. The USN would lock down and patrol Hormuz. The DoD has already declared that to be priority number one in a blockade scenario. That is public information, which MSM was even provided, and in turn provided the public. Beyond that, if you don't think intense action in Hormuz is called for, then clearly you know little of naval warfare, history and tactics. That's the narrowest point, the most active point, it's a choke point.

3- Look at the data on those islands, look at satellite imagery. Abu Musa itself is a large area, much of it open. It also happens to have an airport which boasts a 2.5 mile runway. Fighters, bombers and cargo planes could land there. It could be used for flying surveillance, CAP, and all other needed mission types, including resupply.

4- As I said, all islands could be used for monitoring stations, command centers, missile systems, to base soldiers and supplies, and they would make an excellent area for which to temporarily dump detainees. The importance of those three islands cannot be overstated. They are extremely, extremely beneficial.

They are "not too small to base aircraft or any serious defense capabilities on them," A blockade wouldn't be done by only placing ships outside of Hormuz, furthermore that suggestion is absolutely ridiculous, there may be "no need" but it is unmistakably beneficial and when an advantage is available you take it. Your whole assertion is nonsense. But considering you're ignoring all the facts I stated above, including the DoD already asking to invade those islands for the blockade, and the DoD already saying they would infact blockade Hormuz, and considering I've mentioned that several times in this thread already, I suspect the truth isn't exactly what you're after.
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1. The US has a lot of ports and airports in the Gulf area. And we're talking big ports and airports. Capturing a 12 km2 island while you have air and sea assets on both sides of Hormuz is not a priority. It might be a tactical move to eliminate any Iranian units there and an opportunity to return the islands to UAE, but not a strategic military priority. You seem to understand the strategic value of the islands taken by themselves, but you miss the bigger picture which significantly decreases their strategic role.

2. The US assets are already moving through and above Hormuz without having 3 little islands occupied. You don't have to be in a choke point to control what goes through a chokepoint, especially if you have sea and air superiority that you can bring to bear on both sides of the choke point.

3. So it has an airport. You think that is enough? What would be the logistics area needed to run worth-the-effort reconnaisance, supply or surveilance activities from that puny island, while all the time having the benefit of large airports and ports based in the Gulf Arab states just several miles to the West? They're too small to be relevant. They're by far overshadowed by the facilities that the US already has in the region.

4. Dude, a blockade is enforced by ships and air units, not by assets on islands. You don't have to be in the Hormuz Straits to control the ships that come in and out of it.
89446
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8/1/2008 12:03 PM
Re: UAE Demands Iran Surrender Territory For US Blockade OperationsQuote

make that "through it"
Anonymous Coward
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8/1/2008 3:36 PM
Re: UAE Demands Iran Surrender Territory For US Blockade OperationsQuote

The UAE is an even smaller bug than Israel and would easily be crushed.
PLanB
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8/1/2008 7:03 PM
Re: UAE Demands Iran Surrender Territory For US Blockade OperationsQuote

The UAE has claimed those islands for years.
Many maps indicate this fact in smaller font and or list them as disputed territory.

The fact the UAE are suddenly being more vocal at this time is no doubt just part of a lager plan and the perfect opportunity for the UAE to grab them when all hell breaks loose.
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