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Prince Charles of Wales will be given to be King of Northern Europe

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Scribe to the Prophet Elijah Subscriber
User ID: 438889
8/1/2008 3:50 PM
Re: Prince Charles of Wales will be given to be King of Northern EuropeQuote

There is a spiritual temple as you have mentioned, and there will be a physical temple as well, built for the Anti-Christ to enter and stop the sacrifices which will be begun again, Daniel 9:27. Elijah shall build this temple, Zechariah 6:12, Zechariah 4:12-14.


Whether or not Israel builds a temple and calls it *The* temple, there's nothing holy about it - it's just a building. So why would the devil be so intent on defiling it with some vile, show-stopping intrusion?

If Israel commissions a new priesthood and begins offering animal sacrifices per the Torah, there'd be nothing holy about it, as Jesus was the consummate sacrifice which all those old rituals pointed towards. Why would the beast care about terminating an already obsolete practice?

I'm suggesting that a rebuilt temple is irrelevent, and not a reliable sign of the times.

The so-called "spiritual" temple is the real temple. The sacrifices that occur therein consist of "present[ing] [our] bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is [our] reasonable service". Wouldn't this more likely be the sacrifice that antichrist aims to discontinue?

Perhaps the whole Temple Mount affair is a red herring.



The time of the gentiles is ending soon and God will then begin to deal with the Jews for 1260 days. He will gather together 144,000 jews and the temple built for the Anti-Christ to be there and kill the two witnesses at the end of the 1260 days, Revelation 11.


Daniel says antichrist will violate the "holy place", and Paul confirms, saying antichrist will sit in the temple of God, claiming to *be* God.

But any rebuilt temple, in Jerusalem or anyplace else, is not any sort of "holy place". It won't be any more sacred than a 7-11 or a hockey rink. Logically, the beast-taking-over-the-temple must refer to something other than the obvious, literal expectation that mainstream christianity has fallen for.

God doesn't sanction stone buildings anymore. Back when he did, it was a visual aid for our education. He dwells within his disciples now. Christ in us, and us in Christ.
 Quoting: MuadDib987


Elijah shall build this temple according to Zechariah 6:12, Zechariah 4:12-14. Mount Zion is a very significant place to God, for it is a place of His dwelling on Earth with His people Israel Micah 4:7.
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MuadDib987
User ID: 471904
8/1/2008 4:21 PM
Re: Prince Charles of Wales will be given to be King of Northern EuropeQuote

God doesn't sanction stone buildings anymore. Back when he did, it was a visual aid for our education. He dwells within his disciples now. Christ in us, and us in Christ.


Elijah shall build this temple according to Zechariah 6:12, Zechariah 4:12-14. Mount Zion is a very significant place to God, for it is a place of His dwelling on Earth with His people Israel Micah 4:7.
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 Quoting: Scribe to the Prophet Elijah


I'm no scholar, but I propose that in the Old Testament, God points to Mount Zion as a *model* for the state of peace, security, victory, and authority that we inherit when we are born again. . ."And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus".
Using tangible things to represent truth about intangible things is essentially God's primary method of communicating. To get hung up on the physical symbol is to miss the point. It's like comparing life to a rollercoaster. We're smart enough to grasp that life is not literally an amusement park ride, understanding that such a ride merely *illustrates* what life is like sometimes. Same with Mount Zion, the Promised Land, the temple, the high places of the false gods, etc. - these are all tangible examples of unseen properties of the spirit world.
Please pray for me: I used to be a Good Christian™, until I got a hold of some kind of fruity "love" bullshit and decided I need to be less harsh on people.
Scribe to the Prophet Elijah Subscriber
User ID: 438889
8/1/2008 5:27 PM
Re: Prince Charles of Wales will be given to be King of Northern EuropeQuote

God doesn't sanction stone buildings anymore. Back when he did, it was a visual aid for our education. He dwells within his disciples now. Christ in us, and us in Christ.


Elijah shall build this temple according to Zechariah 6:12, Zechariah 4:12-14. Mount Zion is a very significant place to God, for it is a place of His dwelling on Earth with His people Israel Micah 4:7.
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I'm no scholar, but I propose that in the Old Testament, God points to Mount Zion as a *model* for the state of peace, security, victory, and authority that we inherit when we are born again. . ."And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus".
Using tangible things to represent truth about intangible things is essentially God's primary method of communicating. To get hung up on the physical symbol is to miss the point. It's like comparing life to a rollercoaster. We're smart enough to grasp that life is not literally an amusement park ride, understanding that such a ride merely *illustrates* what life is like sometimes. Same with Mount Zion, the Promised Land, the temple, the high places of the false gods, etc. - these are all tangible examples of unseen properties of the spirit world.
 Quoting: MuadDib987



Have you read Revelation chapter 11? This is an account of the two witnesses and speaks of a physical temple.
MuadDib987
User ID: 471904
8/1/2008 6:10 PM
Re: Prince Charles of Wales will be given to be King of Northern EuropeQuote

I'm no scholar, but I propose that in the Old Testament, God points to Mount Zion as a *model* for the state of peace, security, victory, and authority that we inherit when we are born again. . ."And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus".
Using tangible things to represent truth about intangible things is essentially God's primary method of communicating. To get hung up on the physical symbol is to miss the point. It's like comparing life to a rollercoaster. We're smart enough to grasp that life is not literally an amusement park ride, understanding that such a ride merely *illustrates* what life is like sometimes. Same with Mount Zion, the Promised Land, the temple, the high places of the false gods, etc. - these are all tangible examples of unseen properties of the spirit world.



Have you read Revelation chapter 11? This is an account of the two witnesses and speaks of a physical temple.
 Quoting: Scribe to the Prophet Elijah


Yes, two fire-breathing witnesses. Certainly, we know that this part of it, while very real, isn't *literal*, yes? I don't see where it denotes that the temple is a physical edifice, although we might find a clue in chapter 3 where Jesus says "He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God". I sincerely hope this doesn't mean that we'll be riveted or welded into the frame of a physical structure.

But, hey. I don't wanna fight. Just some food for thought for anyone who's interested.
Please pray for me: I used to be a Good Christian™, until I got a hold of some kind of fruity "love" bullshit and decided I need to be less harsh on people.
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