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“Those who sacrifice Liberty for security deserve neither” -Benjamin Franklin

 
Lastone
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“Those who sacrifice Liberty for security deserve neither” -Benjamin Franklin
The 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence. Your Founding Fathers !!

Urban Legend....

"Of the 56 signers, five were captured and tortured by the British. Nine fought in the Revolutionary War and died from their wounds or hardships. A dozen had their homes destroyed. Four had sons that were killed or captured. When Congress moved to Baltimore as the British advanced, John Hancock's infant daughter died from the hardships of the winter trip. William Ellery lost his house and property. Richard Stockton was beaten and jailed, and while in jail, his estate burned. Carter Braxton lost his fortune as well. Thomas McKean served in the Congress without pay, and kept his family in hiding. Heyward, Rutledge and Middleton were captured by the British and jailed for a year. Clymer, Hall, Harrison, Hopkinson and Livingston lost their properties. Thomas Nelson lost his home and died bankrupt. Francis Lewis lost his home and property as well and his wife was jailed for two months. John Hart lost his farm, hid in forests for over a year, and when he returned, found his wife had died and his 13 children disappeared. Seventeen others lost everything they owned."



Brave Men they were...!!

What have you become....? Those who sacrifice Liberty for security ..... you deserve neither !!!

Sorry !! hf
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08/01/2008 11:57 PM
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Re: “Those who sacrifice Liberty for security deserve neither” -Benjamin Franklin
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malu

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08/02/2008 12:04 AM
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Re: “Those who sacrifice Liberty for security deserve neither” -Benjamin Franklin
don't have time to watch a 14 minute video,, what is your point?

btw, i love that quote
"By way of deception, thou shalt do war."

Israel's Mossad

"The truth shall set you free."

U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Motto
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08/02/2008 12:08 AM
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Re: “Those who sacrifice Liberty for security deserve neither” -Benjamin Franklin
There is always a trade off between liberty and security!

When A Nation is beset by enemies - you had better tighten up on security!


On the other hand if you are the enemy what better way to keep the US disarmed than to spread the idea that Bush=Hitler.
Daniel

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08/02/2008 12:25 AM
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Re: “Those who sacrifice Liberty for security deserve neither” -Benjamin Franklin

Many did NOT want the Revolution for they worked for

& were Dependent on King George and didn't want change for

FEAR of LOSING their lifestyle.

Same goes for today - Dependence & Profit from the

Der Fuhrer bush WAR MACHINE !!!

Who said "The Constitution is Nothing but a GOD DAMN Piece of paper !!!


Dissent is the Greatest form of PATRIOTISM !!!

Daniel


support im
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nazi bush
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08/02/2008 12:53 AM
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Re: “Those who sacrifice Liberty for security deserve neither” -Benjamin Franklin
"Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas."
-- Joseph Stalin



"It is criminal to teach a people not to defend themselves if they are the constant victims of brutal assualt."
-- Malcom X

"'There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. When there aren't enough criminals, one MAKES them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. ... Create a nation of law-breakers, and then you cash in on the guilt.'"
-- Ayn Rand "Atlas Shrugged"
"By way of deception, thou shalt do war."

Israel's Mossad

"The truth shall set you free."

U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Motto
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08/02/2008 01:12 AM
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"A strict observance of the written laws is doubtless one of the high duties of a good citizen, but it is not the highest. The laws of necessity, of self-preservation, of saving our country when in danger, are of higher obligation. To lose our country by a scrupulous adherence to written law would be to lose the law itself, with life, liberty, property, and all those who are enjoying them with us; thus absurdly sacrificing the end to the means."


--Thomas Jefferson to John Colvin, 1810.

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