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There is nothing you can say to convince me there is no God.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 450645
8/4/2008 4:40 PM | | Re: There is nothing you can say to convince me there is no God. | Quote |
Am I supposed to give a shit what you believe or don't believe? |
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FallenAwaken
User ID: 478977
8/4/2008 4:41 PM | | Re: There is nothing you can say to convince me there is no God. | Quote |
NOT IN THIS PLACE!..
OUTSIDE OF THIS PLACE... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 478949 (OP)
8/4/2008 4:46 PM | | Re: There is nothing you can say to convince me there is no God. | Quote |
Am I supposed to give a shit what you believe or don't believe? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 450645
I don't know are you?
It's your future. |
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(nli)
User ID: 478949 (OP)
8/4/2008 4:47 PM | | Re: There is nothing you can say to convince me there is no God. | Quote |
NOT IN THIS PLACE!..
OUTSIDE OF THIS PLACE... Quoting: FallenAwaken 478977
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 457003
8/4/2008 5:11 PM | | Re: There is nothing you can say to convince me there is no God. | Quote |
Kill yourself, it's the only logical way.
For some reason though, I doubt your looking for any personal truth. Most will respond with something to the liking of "I know 'he' exists", or "I don't have to die to know".
Ask god for the location of wmd's in Iraq. Funny, right? |
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HardTruth 
User ID: 423076
8/4/2008 5:16 PM
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The problem with the christians god is that it has no thunder!!
The TRUE DIVINE has both thunder and lightning, but no one wants to be the lightening rod!!
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If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Let the truth be told... though the heavens fall!
The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity.
Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways...
I am not bound by the laws of original sin.. I am one of the other people..
[link to www.paganlibrary.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 717734
7/3/2009 11:24 PM | | Re: There is nothing you can say to convince me there is no God. | Quote |
Holy fuck. Read some of the OP's other posts...pretty retarded all around.
No one cares what you think. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 651707
7/3/2009 11:32 PM | | Re: There is nothing you can say to convince me there is no God. | Quote |
I wouldn't dream of convincing you there is no god. Your gullibility makes it easier for me to sell you crap, talk you into voting for me, and otherwise take advantage of you.
Please do not open your eyes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 373696
Well said, Mr. Rove. |
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MagiChristmas
Cher Ami -- When did Pigeons not= Doves?
User ID: 554973
7/3/2009 11:36 PM
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“What evidence have ye that there is no God, or that Christ cometh not? I say unto you that ye have none, save it be your word only.”
[link to www.schoolofabraham.com]
TToD Links:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Tis True, Tis True, Second Degree Doom Doth Ensue precisely as prescribed several months prior.
Discern the TRUTH of the TimeTable of Doom described in the aforementioned links. The TToD is Based on April 6th aka The MOST Significant day - 4.6 magnitude precursor earthquake struck Italy on April 6th shortly after the Prophet spoke. Then the major earthquake event occurred shortly after general conference adjourned. Ref=lds.org
The swine flu epidemic also emerged on April 6th in Mexico.
The deception continues to crumble.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 717688
7/3/2009 11:43 PM | | Re: There is nothing you can say to convince me there is no God. | Quote |
“What evidence have ye that there is no God, or that Christ cometh not? I say unto you that ye have none, save it be your word only.”
[ link to www.schoolofabraham.com]
thats interesting,almost a definition of faith
have you proved there is no God then?
not to me |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 478522
7/3/2009 11:44 PM | | Re: There is nothing you can say to convince me there is no God. | Quote |
Why do you believe in God? If you really understand the reasons behind why YOU must believe and have faith, I think you will find very selfish reasoning behind it. It is all tied up with your ego and the fact that you won't exist after life is so terrifying to you that you MUST have faith. Faith is not for the benefit of some non-existant God. Faith is for you. Faith involves belief in some imaginary being who is watching you and loving you. And that is really silly and quite stupid.
As far as a creator, maybe there is one, who knows? But does he watch you, listen to your prayers, care about you, etc., that is very, very unlikely. That is something a child would believe and that is why you believe in God. It is all about you...you...you. |
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User ID: 717688
7/3/2009 11:45 PM | | Re: There is nothing you can say to convince me there is no God. | Quote |
Holy fuck. Read some of the OP's other posts...pretty retarded all around.
No one cares what you think. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 717734
haha, you do,enough to post!
at risk of the subject changing,would you care to give examples, complete with refutations?
I truly appreciate your care in this matter
thankyou |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 717688
7/3/2009 11:46 PM | | Re: There is nothing you can say to convince me there is no God. | Quote |
Why do you believe in God? If you really understand the reasons behind why YOU must believe and have faith, I think you will find very selfish reasoning behind it. It is all tied up with your ego and the fact that you won't exist after life is so terrifying to you that you MUST have faith. Faith is not for the benefit of some non-existant God. Faith is for you. Faith involves belief in some imaginary being who is watching you and loving you. And that is really silly and quite stupid.
As far as a creator, maybe there is one, who knows? But does he watch you, listen to your prayers, care about you, etc., that is very, very unlikely. That is something a child would believe and that is why you believe in God. It is all about you...you...you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 478522
straw man
straw man as me!
this is about God ,not me
you FAIL,I'm not convinced
thanks for the input |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 478522
7/3/2009 11:47 PM | | Re: There is nothing you can say to convince me there is no God. | Quote |
There is no god, stupid. No straw man. It IS about you. YOU FAIL. |
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MagiChristmas
Cher Ami -- When did Pigeons not= Doves?
User ID: 554973
7/3/2009 11:50 PM
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“What evidence have ye that there is no God, or that Christ cometh not? I say unto you that ye have none, save it be your word only.”
[ link to www.schoolofabraham.com]
thats interesting,almost a definition of faith
have you proved there is no God then?
not to me
Proof is the antithesis of Faith.
TToD Links:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Tis True, Tis True, Second Degree Doom Doth Ensue precisely as prescribed several months prior.
Discern the TRUTH of the TimeTable of Doom described in the aforementioned links. The TToD is Based on April 6th aka The MOST Significant day - 4.6 magnitude precursor earthquake struck Italy on April 6th shortly after the Prophet spoke. Then the major earthquake event occurred shortly after general conference adjourned. Ref=lds.org
The swine flu epidemic also emerged on April 6th in Mexico.
The deception continues to crumble.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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anonymous
User ID: 717738
7/3/2009 11:55 PM | | Re: There is nothing you can say to convince me there is no God. | Quote |
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You cannot prove there is no God.
Scientists tell us there are more stars in the universe than there are grains of sand on all the beaches of the world.
The nearest star to Sol is light years away.
The analogy is a life form,existing on a grain of sand attempting to reach a conclusion about something so distant it is difficult to comprehend.
If you counter that scientists could be wrong as they often are (not to mention speculative and dogmatic) you are merely demonstrating our ignorance as a civilization and furthering my hypothesis.
Religion?irrelevant,this is a philosophical hypothesis.
Someone will inevitably counter "you cannot prove there is a God"
Perhaps,but not the point of this exercise.
Relevance? The biggest conspiracy of all. GodlikeProd? good place to debate it.
Being as religion (any) is one of two things;
1)Inspired truth of divinity
or
2)a contrivance of man
therefore
1)proves the existence of God
or
2)is irrelevant to the existence or non existence of God
as stated in other posts,to be able to disprove a divine being,two things must occur
1)travel beyond the known universe and unknown universes
2)travel to the smallest dimension of the atom,particle,or smallest subset of aforesaid particle
Here are a few things to help you understand.
1)Higgs Boson (the field not the band)
2)unexplained phenomena (too numerous to mention)
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Someone may counter "what if this is all an illusion" (matrix theory)
this argument is very old (Aristotle or Plato,I don't know,who cares) and proves nothing
actually points more in favor of divinity,as we are all beings of light and vibration,that is,harnessed energy
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If you want to know the truth you must clear your mind of preconceived notions.You must open your mind.
You cannot prove there is no God.
This is a good place to start.
I don't have,nor claim to have all the answers,however;
You cannot prove there is no God.
You are welcome to try. Quoting: RHH
God is an equal opportunity God .. we all will find out if he existed when we die. .those who were saved from thier Sins by the Blood of Christ , will go on to heaven, those not saved from thier sins, will go |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 717688
7/3/2009 11:58 PM | | Re: There is nothing you can say to convince me there is no God. | Quote |
There is no god, stupid. No straw man. It IS about you. YOU FAIL. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 478522
you give a truly weak argument |
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freeone
User ID: 714737
7/4/2009 12:24 AM | | Re: There is nothing you can say to convince me there is no God. | Quote |
I believe ther is a higher being, but there is no jesus that saves us |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 676392
7/4/2009 12:31 AM | | Re: There is nothing you can say to convince me there is no God. | Quote |
Let's assume there is a god whereas he at a minimum created all that you see before you. Who created god then?
The truth is we are all co-creators of the physically manifested reality. Be it human or plant or stars. We're all making it up as we go along.
Think of existence and non-existence as being the most fundamental duality. Non-existence is the realm of all things that are possible. Existence is the realm of all things actual.consciencesness plucks from the realm non-existence and brings it into the physical world. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 478522
7/4/2009 12:34 AM | | Re: There is nothing you can say to convince me there is no God. | Quote |
There is literally nothing to argue about. If God does not exist, why talk about it? You can't prove that it does. Is it a man, woman, or it? You don't know but you have it in your head that it is a man with a white beard, i.e., Santa Claus. So if God died tomorrow, would you miss him? How would you know? You wouldn't know because God is invisible and imaginary. And you think MY argument is weak. Try to convince me of the reality of God without some silly story from the Bible or some silly story from your own head like "God talked to me and told me I was wonderful." If you can't do that, then I think it is YOUR argument that is weak. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 717780
7/4/2009 1:04 AM | | Re: There is nothing you can say to convince me there is no God. | Quote |
There is literally nothing to argue about. If God does not exist, why talk about it? You can't prove that it does. Is it a man, woman, or it? You don't know but you have it in your head that it is a man with a white beard, i.e., Santa Claus. So if God died tomorrow, would you miss him? How would you know? You wouldn't know because God is invisible and imaginary. And you think MY argument is weak. Try to convince me of the reality of God without some silly story from the Bible or some silly story from your own head like "God talked to me and told me I was wonderful." If you can't do that, then I think it is YOUR argument that is weak. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 478522
I'm not trying to prove he exists,I'm demonstrating that you can't prove he doesn't.
This is an exercise in logic and open mindedness.
I don't think you read the thread,have you been to ALL thee universes?
small reality you exist in huh? open up |
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hardboiledheretic
User ID: 716940
7/4/2009 1:16 AM
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C'mon don't ya'll realize that we can never know for sure one way or another?
I'm sorry to repeat myself. I've said this on other threads. This is where I'm at. And it's not a happy place. Because I understand both sides of this discussion.
We live in a paradox. Yes I have faith because my soul feels a higher calling despite this world! Or...nothing makes sense in this world so we must be mistake...
Yet our heart and soul yearns to be where it wants to be. And it's not here, is it? That's what drives us crazy.
And best of all, speaking of grains of sand, our little planet is like...0000000001 percent ?? of the volume of our galaxy, let alone the universe.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Feel free to correct me on my figure, but you get the idea.
h |
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The Professor
User ID: 660063
7/4/2009 1:48 AM | | Re: There is nothing you can say to convince me there is no God. | Quote |
Sorry to tell you but most people don't really care what you think.Whatever you believe is just fine.Your opinion along with mine means nothing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 478952
Well, I could add my opinion, but that still leaves us with three times zero is still zero.
Oh, well. |
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The Professor
User ID: 660063
7/4/2009 1:50 AM | | Re: There is nothing you can say to convince me there is no God. | Quote |
I stand with you in whatever you do or do not believe. It is not for me to tell you what to or what not to believe. Quoting: Winningjob
Looking for an amen?
You got one! |
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The Professor
User ID: 660063
7/4/2009 1:53 AM | | Re: There is nothing you can say to convince me there is no God. | Quote |
You can't prove to me there is not an invisible pink unicorn standing behind me. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 446469
Yet, according to some unenlightened souls, that would mean pink unicorns are real.
I blame the public school system. |
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ViperThunder
User ID: 512301
7/4/2009 2:33 AM
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Let's assume there is a god whereas he at a minimum created all that you see before you. Who created god then?
The truth is we are all co-creators of the physically manifested reality. Be it human or plant or stars. We're all making it up as we go along.
Think of existence and non-existence as being the most fundamental duality. Non-existence is the realm of all things that are possible. Existence is the realm of all things actual.consciencesness plucks from the realm non-existence and brings it into the physical world. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 676392
This sums up what I think to be (logically) correct.
Last Edited by ViperThunder on 7/4/2009 at 2:33 AM
Let There Be Peace |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 717821
7/4/2009 2:55 AM | | Re: There is nothing you can say to convince me there is no God. | Quote |
This sums up what I think to be (logically) correct. Quoting: ViperThunder
If we assume (I think correctly) that there are varying degrees of consciencesness than everything is conscience from the living to the inanimate. For example the instructions given to form a rock or a star or a person are all determined at the atomic and smaller levels. Higher life forms just have a more organized form of conscienceness in that u have a symbolic mind, with sensory perception, memory, and the ability to recall from memory whereas a rock just has the ability to just have the elements required to maintain its rockness.
For a great story google "isaac asimov" and "let there be light" to read a great story which will take u to some wonderful conclusions as to where things come from and where they are headed. |
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