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Someone Tried To Harm My Daughter

 
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I called my 22 year old daughter on Saturday to see if her and her boyfriend wanted to join the rest of the family for a BBQ on Sunday. Unfortunately she said she had to work the 3-11pm shift at the hospital that day and they had plans with friends from out of town and were going to stay at their place after work. I told her to have fun and that I would call her (today) Monday.
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So, last night at about 12:30 my phone rang. I paused the movie I was watching and answered. I heard a quiet, shakey voice on the other end whisper "Mom, I'm in trouble."
I asked her what was wrong. She said "A man's chasing us and I'm scared."
I covered the phone and screamed to my husband who was downstairs to bring me a cell phone. As calmly as I could, I asked my daughter to tell me exactly where she was and what was happening. She said that her, her boyfriend and another friend who worked security at the hospital were driving to their friends house. They had stopped at a red light just on the outskirts of our city when another car pulled up beside them. The man in the other car was staring into their car, it was so noticable that my daughter asked the others if they knew him. Everyone turned to look at the man and he began aggresively gesturing at them (gave them the finger, ran his thumb across his neck as in a cut throat motion, pointing his fingers at them like a gun)

Then I heard a loud noise and my daughter screamed "Oh God he's ramming our car!"
I asked her again "Where are you?!"
By this time my husband entered the room smiling and said "You bellowed for me?" I screamed "Get me a cell phone NOW! I need to call the Police!"
I hear my daughter say that her boyfriend is already on his cell phone with the police. I shake my head no at my husband to cancel the cell phone and motion for him to pick up an extention. She said Cruisers were already out looking for them and that their friend was driving the car and trying to get to the Police Station. They were traveling on a highway between our city and the next town, driving at speeds of over 120 km an hour while being rammed.
I have never, ever... felt so small and helpless as I did at that moment.

I heard my husbands voice on the extention. He said "Baby listen to me, how many in your car?" She told him 3. He asked how many in the car that's chasing you? She said she thought just the driver. He asked about weapons and she said they thought he has a knife or a gun. She saw him get something out of the glove box as they were pulling away at the stop light.
I knew what my husband was thinking, that they should put an end to the chase and make a stand but if he had a gun... then what?

My daughter said "We can hear police sirens but we can't see them and don't know where to go... he's ramming the car again, he doesn't care the police are coming, he's going to kill us!"
My husband asked her "What highway and what direction?" She told him, he hung up and I heard him slam the side door and his truck pull away with half of the gravel from our driveway with it.
On the phone, I could hear my daughters boyfriend talking to the police dispatcher and I could hear her talking to the friend driving the car. I was amazed at how calm they were. I could also hear police sirens so I knew they had to be close. I heard my daughter say "There they are!"
I asked her "Are the police there?" She said they just passed 3 cruisers on the highway and the police had turned around and joined the chase. Then she screamed and I heard him hit them again, even with the police chasing him.

One of police cars got between the 2 cars and they boxed the man in and forced him to stop. My daughter said they surrounded his car, guns drawn and were trying to get him to exit his vehicle. She said she had to go now, the police wanted to talk to her. I reluctantly let her go with the promise that she'd call me the moment she was done with the police. I called my hushand on his cell to update him. He decided he needed to see her for himself and that he'd call when he got there and for me to call him if they were moved to the police station.
I hung up and decided since the crisis was now over, it was a good time to have a breakdown before the fear and stress I was feeling made my heart or head explode.

Now, one of the reasons I decided to share this is because when my daughter finally called me back she said the police eventually forced the man out of his car and that he had an open blade on his lap. A knife. He would give no rhyme or reason for what he did and wasn't speaking to anyone. That's all she knew but she was as shaken as I was, probably more.
I don't have the answer but I certainly know the question... What the hell is going on in Canada?
I'm too emotionally involved to think straight yet. One moment I'm so thankful all 3 are fine and it ended well, the next moment I'm wondering what kind of karma I'd be banking if I found this man myself and showed him the true meaning of fear.
I need answers but I guess I also just need a place to vent... so thanks everyone for allowing me to do that here.
In a controversy the instant we feel anger we have already ceased striving for the truth, and have begun striving for ourselves. ~Buddha

Lord, please keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
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08/04/2008 05:20 PM
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thank God they are alright-- where did this take place??
...I would follow this closely to make sure he doesn't make bail. Arm yourselves.
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08/04/2008 05:24 PM
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It happened between Edmonton and St.Albert Alberta.
In a controversy the instant we feel anger we have already ceased striving for the truth, and have begun striving for ourselves. ~Buddha

Lord, please keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
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08/04/2008 05:24 PM
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What a terrifying experience - thank goodness the police reached them before he managed to harm them. You must have been absolutely distraught - well done for keeping calm throughout.

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08/04/2008 05:26 PM
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Another great case for legal concealed weapons.
FAR

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08/04/2008 05:27 PM
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I call this...

"The Skunk Effect"

Hardcore cannibis smokers prefer the stronger form of skunk.

I'd recommend a global detox.

And few verses of the Quran:

[link to www.islamicity.com]

Another great case for legal concealed weapons.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 478898



No... another case for "the art of fighting without fighting".

[link to www.huntsab.org]
Read - for thy sustainer is the most bountiful one, who has taught the use of the pen, taught man what he did not know!
Nay verily man becomes grossly overweening, whenever he believes himself to be self-sufficient: for behold unto thy sustainer all must return.

Quran 96:3-8

[link to www.islamicity.com]
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How we got here: [link to www.hundredyearlie.com]
Cure: [link to www.youtube.com]
__________
Plasma aliens: [link to www.plasmametaphysics.com]
__________
Were your ancestors pedophiles? [link to www.youtube.com]
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08/04/2008 05:31 PM
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I call this...

"The Skunk Effect"

Hardcore cannibis smokers prefer the stronger form of skunk.

I'd recommend a global detox.

And few verses of the Quran:

[link to www.islamicity.com]
 Quoting: FAR



Can you keep your backwards religion out of this Far, just for once? Show some respect.
morph
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08/04/2008 05:34 PM
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It would seem that satan himself has been let loose from the pits of hell.


"Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time." -- Revelation 12:12
FAR

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08/04/2008 05:35 PM
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Can you keep your backwards religion out of this Far, just for once? Show some respect.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 472041


An ugly stare can make a schizo go nuts.
Read - for thy sustainer is the most bountiful one, who has taught the use of the pen, taught man what he did not know!
Nay verily man becomes grossly overweening, whenever he believes himself to be self-sufficient: for behold unto thy sustainer all must return.

Quran 96:3-8

[link to www.islamicity.com]
__________
"Investors must look at this situation as a portfolio opportunity. If you have some extra land (condo developers and house flippers, listen closely), grow a vegetable garden, if you are ambitious, raise some sheep and cows, they will come in handy".
__________
How we got here: [link to www.hundredyearlie.com]
Cure: [link to www.youtube.com]
__________
Plasma aliens: [link to www.plasmametaphysics.com]
__________
Were your ancestors pedophiles? [link to www.youtube.com]
__________
[link to www.terrorism-illuminati.com]
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08/04/2008 05:35 PM
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Thoughts are with you and your family OP; hf

(ignore the islamist nutcase above!)

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08/04/2008 05:36 PM
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haarp mind control experiments with canadians?

if so, please abort mission.
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08/04/2008 05:43 PM
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OP, I felt sick just reading your post. I'm a mother too and I would have been out of my mind getting a call like that. I'm so happy for you that your daughter and her friends are safe.

Something very sinister seems to be happening in Canada right now.
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Ohhhh I almost cried reading you post! How horrible. There are so many nut cases out there...(in here too) that you never know what a person like that would do.

I'm so happy your daughter is safe. I'm also happy her friend knew how to drive like he did!

Hug your daughter for me...
As proud children of science and reason, we have made ourselves the orphans of wisdom.....
T.B (OP)

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08/04/2008 05:55 PM
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I was so angry when I started typing this. It's probably a more comfortable emotion to deal with then fear is. Truth is, now I just feel drained.

Thank you all for your kind words and wishes. They are truly appreciated : )
In a controversy the instant we feel anger we have already ceased striving for the truth, and have begun striving for ourselves. ~Buddha

Lord, please keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
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08/04/2008 05:59 PM
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haarp mind control experiments with canadians?

if so, please abort mission.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 434023


Are you also referring to that greyhound bus killing? Was that in same area?

And, OP, it sounds like you and your daughter and friends kept their heads and did the right thing. It could have turned out much worse. Thank-God they are o.k.

As far as showing "this man the true meaning of fear" it probably wouldn't be worth it to land yourself in jail as well. But as a mother also I certainly understand those feelings and would understand acting on them if things had turned out worse. Since you're daughter is o.k. try to get rid of those feelings for your own welfare.

If this man gets out of jail now or later I would be concerned about reprisal. He sounds like the type that might come back for a second try. Your daughter might want to think about that. During the court process he will certainly learn their names. Just be careful about this. Even if he is in jail for years sometimes they just sit there and fester over it blaming their victims.

If I were you I would hire a P.I. when he gets out to find out if the guy lives close by and what kind of car he drives currently. And then you can be on the look out for him if necessary. It's just a fear I would have as a mother but hopefully he'll go about his business and forget about it.
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Holy CARP!

You're right in demanding what the hell is going on up there! Time was your country was this nice little way back machine of a country where a person could feel safe!
Obamacare: Never has so much been taken away from so many for so few.
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(ignore the islamist nutcase above!)
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dumbass
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OP, Here is a great maneuver that your daughter should remember if (God forbid!) anything like this should happen again. This one will work even if she is alone and there's no cell phone in the car:

When it's determine that the nut isn't going to drive away, slow down and calmly pull over to the side of the road and make sure the nut parks behind you - This will only work if the pursuing vehicle in in the rear.

Once both cars have come to a complete stop, wait for the loony to get out of his car and then throw your car into reverse and plow the car behind you... I mean smash it like you where in a demolition derby!

The rear car will have extensive radiator damage and will not be able to pursue you for a mile or 2 at most before the engine overheats and seizes up. The faster he goes the faster his car will die... permanently. The impact may also cause his door to jam thereby allowing you more time to get away.

I did this once accidentally and the car was totaled. All I had was a small dent on my rear bumper. The other car looked like an acordening... which is what they are suppose to do when front-ended.

Drive to the police station but don't admit to doing it on purpose - Tell them that in your terrified state you put the car in reverse by accident in an attempt to escape with your life from someone who obviously wanted to kill you.



Self-defense is still legal in Canada... I think.
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I call this...

"The Skunk Effect"

Hardcore cannibis smokers prefer the stronger form of skunk.

I'd recommend a global detox.

And few verses of the Quran:

[link to www.islamicity.com]


Another great case for legal concealed weapons.



No... another case for "the art of fighting without fighting".

[link to www.huntsab.org]
 Quoting: FAR

stupid fucking towelhead.
T.B (OP)

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haarp mind control experiments with canadians?

if so, please abort mission.


Are you also referring to that greyhound bus killing? Was that in same area?

And, OP, it sounds like you and your daughter and friends kept their heads and did the right thing. It could have turned out much worse. Thank-God they are o.k.

As far as showing "this man the true meaning of fear" it probably wouldn't be worth it to land yourself in jail as well. But as a mother also I certainly understand those feelings and would understand acting on them if things had turned out worse. Since you're daughter is o.k. try to get rid of those feelings for your own welfare.

If this man gets out of jail now or later I would be concerned about reprisal. He sounds like the type that might come back for a second try. Your daughter might want to think about that. During the court process he will certainly learn their names. Just be careful about this. Even if he is in jail for years sometimes they just sit there and fester over it blaming their victims.

If I were you I would hire a P.I. when he gets out to find out if the guy lives close by and what kind of car he drives currently. And then you can be on the look out for him if necessary. It's just a fear I would have as a mother but hopefully he'll go about his business and forget about it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 478992


Wise words to consider. Thank you : )
In a controversy the instant we feel anger we have already ceased striving for the truth, and have begun striving for ourselves. ~Buddha

Lord, please keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
Me

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08/04/2008 06:07 PM
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Wow TB that sent shivers down my spine and being a mother I can only begin to imagine what hell you went through hearing it all.
I am so glad everyone is ok and well =)
I listen to both God and Satan ... I like to hear both sides of the story.
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OP, Here is a great maneuver that your daughter should remember if (God forbid!) anything like this should happen again. This one will work even if she is alone and there's no cell phone in the car:

When it's determine that the nut isn't going to drive away, slow down and calmly pull over to the side of the road and make sure the nut parks behind you - This will only work if the pursuing vehicle in in the rear.

Once both cars have come to a complete stop, wait for the loony to get out of his car and then throw your car into reverse and plow the car behind you... I mean smash it like you where in a demolition derby!

The rear car will have extensive radiator damage and will not be able to pursue you for a mile or 2 at most before the engine overheats and seizes up. The faster he goes the faster his car will die... permanently. The impact may also cause his door to jam thereby allowing you more time to get away.

I did this once accidentally and the car was totaled. All I had was a small dent on my rear bumper. The other car looked like an acordening... which is what they are suppose to do when front-ended.

Drive to the police station but don't admit to doing it on purpose - Tell them that in your terrified state you put the car in reverse by accident in an attempt to escape with your life from someone who obviously wanted to kill you.



Self-defense is still legal in Canada... I think.
 Quoting: ac 476208


I wouldn't have thought of that but excellent advice. Thank you : )
In a controversy the instant we feel anger we have already ceased striving for the truth, and have begun striving for ourselves. ~Buddha

Lord, please keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
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08/04/2008 06:12 PM
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Wow, you had my heart racing just reading your post! Glad things turned out ok.
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Wow! I can't imagine the thoughts that must have been racing thru your head. I am so glad they are safe.
Personal responsibility - try it sometime. Quit blaming others for your bad choices. Consequences happen.

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OP, Here is a great maneuver that your daughter should remember if (God forbid!) anything like this should happen again. This one will work even if she is alone and there's no cell phone in the car:

When it's determine that the nut isn't going to drive away, slow down and calmly pull over to the side of the road and make sure the nut parks behind you - This will only work if the pursuing vehicle in in the rear.

Once both cars have come to a complete stop, wait for the loony to get out of his car and then throw your car into reverse and plow the car behind you... I mean smash it like you where in a demolition derby!

The rear car will have extensive radiator damage and will not be able to pursue you for a mile or 2 at most before the engine overheats and seizes up. The faster he goes the faster his car will die... permanently. The impact may also cause his door to jam thereby allowing you more time to get away.

I did this once accidentally and the car was totaled. All I had was a small dent on my rear bumper. The other car looked like an acordening... which is what they are suppose to do when front-ended.

Drive to the police station but don't admit to doing it on purpose - Tell them that in your terrified state you put the car in reverse by accident in an attempt to escape with your life from someone who obviously wanted to kill you.



Self-defense is still legal in Canada... I think.


I wouldn't have thought of that but excellent advice. Thank you : )
 Quoting: T.B




Your more than welcome.

BTW, one hit is all it takes - Rads are very fragile. ;-)

If the nut is driving a large truck or has a grill guard, this probably wouldn't work.
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Thing is he will be out in a week.....That is EXACTLY why I exercise my right to the "castle doctrine" in Texas and carry in my car. Someone rams me while my family is in the car, they get no chance to explain. I'll call the cops after.
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OP, Here is a great maneuver that your daughter should remember if (God forbid!) anything like this should happen again. This one will work even if she is alone and there's no cell phone in the car:

When it's determine that the nut isn't going to drive away, slow down and calmly pull over to the side of the road and make sure the nut parks behind you - This will only work if the pursuing vehicle in in the rear.

Once both cars have come to a complete stop, wait for the loony to get out of his car and then throw your car into reverse and plow the car behind you... I mean smash it like you where in a demolition derby!

The rear car will have extensive radiator damage and will not be able to pursue you for a mile or 2 at most before the engine overheats and seizes up. The faster he goes the faster his car will die... permanently. The impact may also cause his door to jam thereby allowing you more time to get away.

I did this once accidentally and the car was totaled. All I had was a small dent on my rear bumper. The other car looked like an acordening... which is what they are suppose to do when front-ended.

Drive to the police station but don't admit to doing it on purpose - Tell them that in your terrified state you put the car in reverse by accident in an attempt to escape with your life from someone who obviously wanted to kill you.



Self-defense is still legal in Canada... I think.
 Quoting: ac 476208


Yeah it's legal... and I don't think it would even be necessary to say that it wasn't done on purpose, we're only talking about crushing a car to neutralize someone who is trying to kill you. It's absolutely nothing that would be considered as criminal. Police would not make a big deal of it IMO.
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08/04/2008 06:52 PM
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Get your daughter a gun.
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Another great case for legal concealed weapons.
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bump
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T.B.
glad to hear the three are okay.
be sure the three take seriously the getting out of their names (which will lead to addresses/phones/work).
will keep them in my thoughts.
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I don't understand why your daughter with her b/f didn't slow down. The guy would have just passed them, since he was speeding so much....

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