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Cherokee Rattlesnake Prophecy 2012...we are in it!!

 
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In the year 2004 and 2012 an alignment will take place both on the Cherokee Calendar and in the heavens of the Rattlesnake Constellation both. It is the time of the doublehead serpent stick. It is the time of the Red of Orion and Jupiter against White Blue of Pleadies and Venus. It is the time of the Uku's choosing. It is the time of the Beloved Woman and MYSTERIES OF TIME UNTIME. It is the Time Untime of the THUNDERBOLT and the spirits of Lightning Mountains.

In the year 2004 and 2012 the Cherokee Rattlesnake Constellation will take on a different configuration. The Snake itself will remain, however, upon the Rattlesnake shall be added upon its head feathers, its eyes will open and glow, wings spring forth as a winged Rattlesnake, it shall have hands and arms and in its hands shall be found a bowl. The bowl will hold blood. Upon its tail of 7 rattles shall be the glowing and movement of Pleiades.

The Rattlesnake shall become a FEATHERED RATTLESNAKE or FEATHERED SERPENT of TIME UNTIME.

And upon the Rattlesnake is also the Milky Way. A crossing of the Milky Way shall be seen at these times.

For the center of the Universe is what many know as the Constellation Sagittarius by modern man. But upon this constellation of is also found the Pleiades Star system which is what is different in the boundary of others and the Cherokee Zodiac.

The Milky Way is ALSO a Tree ... STONE TREE. And upon Stone Tree is as a Tree with a tree trunk, branches, a top, and even roots. The Flower and the Tree is also a tassel as corn. And upon the flower and the tree is the TREE OF LIFE. REBIRTH, RENEWAL, NEW.

And the Cherokee Calendar shall end in the year 2012. But upon the times just prior shall be the Feathered Serpent and its prophecy.

Upon the Heavens design, within the Cherokee Rattlesnake Constellation, it is written. And upon the Rings of TIME UNTIME of the Cherokee Calendar it also says BEHOLD RATTLESNAKE CONSTELATION. And Remember.

The Rings of the Cherokee Calendar are read by the winding motion of the Rattlesnake. To Add or to subtract TIME UNTIME. To MOVE the Wheels backward or forward, to add a wheel to move the rings, to tell the tale what was, what is, and to be. The Rattlesnake and it design tells the movement of the RINGS OF TIME.

And in the sky heavens the motions of the movement of stars, planets, and life tell the tale of its bearing. For all is as the winding of the Rattlesnake. And in the year 2004 the Morning Star shall be first and in the year 2012 the Evening Star shall be first. And upon those years the crown of the Feathered Serpent shall bear its colors and honor. The hands shall hold the bowl and the tail shall be as the roots of a Tree, The Pleaides Tree of the beginning.

And in the Year 2004 and 2012 shall be the TIME UNTIME of the Feathered Serpent of the Sky Heavens. And the Rings shall turn upon those years of prophecy foretold on the Rings of TIME UNTIME. And Ywahoo Falls Kentucky shall sing of Venus and the Feathered Rattlesnake.

For this is not all the prophecy not all the things thereof. For if it was meant for one to know and I give only part, then you have received a great gift. For if I tell all and it was not meant for one to know then I have waisted my breath. For this is a sacred thing, the Venus Alignment and the Feathered Serpent of the Heavens.

And in the Year 2012 the Cherokee Calendar Ends. And all is reborn. For the Feathered Rattlsnake comes and shall be seen in the heavens in the year 2004 to 2012.

In the south of the americas ... it is related as the coming of Quetzalcoatl. The Ancient Cherokee relate it as the coming of the Pale One once again.

The Rattlesnake Constelation shall appear with the Venus Alignment. The Stars of the Heavens of the Cherokee Zodiac, the Rings of the Calendar, and The Venus Alignment tell the story of a Chickamaugan Prophecy. For they all are aligned in the year 2004 to 2012.

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More fuel to the fire.

And this is yet another calender I didn't know about that follows the ancient mayan calender conundrum.

The list is huge...
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LOL. Classic example of total nonsense. Time untime, tree trunk, snakes and feathers all wrapped in an unreadable words that is meaningless to the ordinary person.
What is the point of all this? Some body got to say to these guys that they are not living in the old language and old times. These are modern times and none can read Latin.
A simple language would suffice.

I have read this 3 times. It twists and turns like a snake to use their own words but will not actually make a point. At least to me.
So can any of you learnd people out there who know the secret of Cherokee language tell this very simple and uneducated soul what it says?
The only guess i can have is that the whole page might be translated in to one meaningless sentence that we might have heard it day after day in a much simpler language.

Anyone care to translate?
Please do not use long words. I am simple.ROFL.
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LOL. Classic example of total nonsense. Time untime, tree trunk, snakes and feathers all wrapped in an unreadable words that is meaningless to the ordinary person.
What is the point of all this? Some body got to say to these guys that they are not living in the old language and old times. These are modern times and none can read Latin.
A simple language would suffice.

I have read this 3 times. It twists and turns like a snake to use their own words but will not actually make a point. At least to me.
So can any of you learnd people out there who know the secret of Cherokee language tell this very simple and uneducated soul what it says?
The only guess i can have is that the whole page might be translated in to one meaningless sentence that we might have heard it day after day in a much simpler language.

Anyone care to translate?
Please do not use long words. I am simple.ROFL.
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LMAO I agree
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Ummmmm....yeah.

I'm Cherokee, and this is absolute B.S. Someone's semi-creative attempt at home-made doom.


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Its all that peyote they take.

It probably does make a lot of sense but ya gotta be smashed of your tree on acid or shrooms to make sense of it all.
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feathered serpent - quetzalkoatl
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I'm Cherokee,



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Yeah, you and everyone else on the internets claims to be Cherokee.
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look for Pleides, it is the tail

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The Milky Way is ALSO a Tree ... STONE TREE. And upon Stone Tree is as a Tree with a tree trunk, branches, a top, and even roots. The Flower and the Tree is also a tassel as corn. And upon the flower and the tree is the TREE OF LIFE. REBIRTH, RENEWAL, NEW.


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HUH??????
Why can they say the truth as we know it?
Milky way is a collection of stars etc as science has proved and is rotating ....etc etc.
Why is there a need for a simple explanation to be twisted in to something that is ....well...LOL...twisted?

If they want to turn a physical event and give it a spiritual meaning then just do that.
Lets get this right. there are no snakes up there. they are stars. And if it is meant to be a form of symbolism.... WHY?
Why is there a need for symbolism when simple language will do>
Jesus talked in parabells... What the fuck for?
If he wanted to tell people about something ... then just say it. Why beat about the Bush?
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The Milky Way is ALSO a Tree ... STONE TREE. And upon Stone Tree is as a Tree with a tree trunk, branches, a top, and even roots. The Flower and the Tree is also a tassel as corn. And upon the flower and the tree is the TREE OF LIFE. REBIRTH, RENEWAL, NEW.



HUH??????
Why can they say the truth as we know it?
Milky way is a collection of stars etc as science has proved and is rotating ....etc etc.
Why is there a need for a simple explanation to be twisted in to something that is ....well...LOL...twisted?

If they want to turn a physical event and give it a spiritual meaning then just do that.
Lets get this right. there are no snakes up there. they are stars. And if it is meant to be a form of symbolism.... WHY?
Why is there a need for symbolism when simple language will do>
Jesus talked in parabells... What the fuck for?
If he wanted to tell people about something ... then just say it. Why beat about the Bush?
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because when this was derived they didnt have telescopes
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For this is not all the prophecy not all the things thereof. For if it was meant for one to know and I give only part, then you have received a great gift. For if I tell all and it was not meant for one to know then I have waisted my breath. For this is a sacred thing, the Venus Alignment and the Feathered Serpent of the Heavens.


now bend over and kiss your ass goodbye...
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feathered serpent - quetzalkoatl
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Ummm,OK....I did ask for simple language. I have never heard that word before.
What is it? A kind of snake?
LMAO
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feathered serpent - quetzalkoatl

Ummm,OK....I did ask for simple language. I have never heard that word before.
What is it? A kind of snake?
LMAO
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quetzalcoatl is related to mayans its a flying snake sky god
dont know that much about it they just sounded relatable
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I'm Cherokee,





Yeah, you and everyone else on the internets claims to be Cherokee.
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Maybe, and I wouldn't blame them for wishing, but I'm a card carrying voting tribal member.

And this is still a crock.
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I am pulling my hairs out here. I am bold BTW, so will just have to do with pubic ones.

There is no such a thing as feathered snakes. I have looked it up and we didn't do this in school 30 years ago.
They did not have telescopes you say. fair point but what the fuck where they looking through to see a feathered snake?LOL
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I am pulling my hairs out here. I am bold BTW, so will just have to do with pubic ones.

There is no such a thing as feathered snakes. I have looked it up and we didn't do this in school 30 years ago.
They did not have telescopes you say. fair point but what the fuck where they looking through to see a feathered snake?LOL
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im just guessing but if you believe in these myths or whatever you want to call them back then the sky was alot brighter and you could see alot more then you could today thats where some of these terminaologies could have came from
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I'm Cherokee,





Yeah, you and everyone else on the internets claims to be Cherokee.



Maybe, and I wouldn't blame them for wishing, but I'm a card carrying voting tribal member.

And this is still a crock.
 Quoting: Okie 447203


Do you look like an Indian? Because everytime I see them interviewing some dude on tv who claims to be an Indian, he looks like either a white guy or black guy.

If you are 100% Indian, you must know what Im talking about.
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Heres something else...

In the year 2004 and 2012 an alignment will take place both on the Cherokee Calendar and in the heavens of the Rattlesnake Constellation both. It is the time of the doublehead serpent stick. It is the time of the Red of Orion and Jupiter against White Blue of Pleadies and Venus. It is the time of the Uku's choosing. It is the time of the Beloved Woman and MYSTERIES OF TIME UNTIME. It is the Time Untime of the THUNDERBOLT and the spirits of Lightning Mountains

Blue and Red??? Anyone getting this??
Sacred colors of balance for Lakota

Blue and Red Kachina of the Hopi
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im just guessing but if you believe in these myths or whatever you want to call them back then the sky was alot brighter and you could see alot more then you could today thats where some of these terminaologies could have came from
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So... I am assuming that some of these guys spent their time looking up in the sky while their hands were in their pockets playing with themselves and smoking something. Suddenly one of these guys says "hey, that bit looks like a snake". "oh,yeh it looks like a snake that has feathers"
"what the fuck are you on?" the other one says.
"It doesn't matter...man... who gives a shit if there is no such a thing as a feathered snake. I mean,man...lets just say what we see".
And so after 100's of years we have to do with a feathered snake up in the sky rather than just a simple cluster of stars.
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Yeah thats it, that explains why the Mayan calendar is more accurate than ours today....
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In the south of the americas ... it is related as the coming of Quetzalcoatl. The Ancient Cherokee relate it as the coming of the Pale One once again.


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"In Mexico's great central mesa where Ixtlilxochitl lived, the name by
which the Fair God of Ancient America was generally known was Quetzalcoatl.
"Quetzal" was the name of the beautiful bird with the resplendent long
green feathers and the dainty crest. "Coatl" is the ancient Mexican word
for serpent. Thus the name Quetzalcoatl means literally "Quetzal-bird
serpent". "Quetzalcoatl was the name applied to the New World God
who was in the form of a man, bearded, white- robed, and a great tea cher of
moral principles. The "coatl, or "serpent" was an ancient symbol of
Israel's Messiah, "the Anointed One".
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The Holy Family in Christian belief is depicted most often wearing clothes of Red and Blue. Usually, they wear Blue Cloaks, symbolising they were fully conscious beings, born of the Sea, walking in Light, ascending to the Sky, and belonging to Heaven. Red was worn for the Sacred Love of the Creator God, which they came to proclaim and share, through Sacrifice and Love.

The East Indian Peoples, the original Aryan Peoples, have a pantheon of gods, the most sacred of which is Shiva, who is part of a Trinity which includes Brahma(Creator), Vishnu(Preserver), and Shiva(Destroyer). They are most often the ones depicted with Blue Skin. Blue skin represents their Enlightened state and Holiness/Wholeness. Other Gods are painted blue too. The Sadhu, the ascetics and followers of Shiva, often wear Red or Orange robes, to let others know of their sacred calling and their willingness to live in a Sacred Way, following God.

The Scottish Highlanders, painted themselves with Blue Clay before battle calling in their Spirit Helpers. Today a blue ribbon is used on medals and awards, as a symbol of distinction and high honour for those that Sacrifice for others and show their Selflessness. The sacred leader of the Mongols, Genghis Khan, was descended from the Clan of the Blue Wolves. Blue Stones, like the Sapphire, symbolise Heaven and the attributes of Truth and Contemplation, which are said to bring clarity to the one wearing the blue stone. The Blue Bird carries the blessing of Happiness on its wing and is another spirit messenger. There are many other instances where blue is mentioned to indicate that a People remembers their relationships to the Sky Beings; the Star Beings, the Children of God, also known as Thunder Beings or Dragons.
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"Fernando de Alva Ixtlilxochitl was born about 1568. He was a student at
the College of Santa Cruz in Tlateloco [Mexico]. . . . he was an
interpreter in the court of Justice of the Indians and he died in 1648 at
the age of eighty." "He was a descendant of the old Texcocan lineage and
had access to many of the ancient records. His first work was written about
1600 and the second about 1608. Ixtlilxochitl was a grandson of the last
king of Texcuco, from whom he inherited all that were saved of the records
in the public archives."


"The ancient Mexican history, the Works of Ixtlilxochitl, was written in
Mexico at about the close of the sixteenth century. Ixtlilxochitl, the
author, derived his material from ancient authentic hieroglyphic writings
which he had received from his ancestors." His account deals, among
other things, with "the origins and histories of the people who developed
the highest early cultures of the New World."


The quotations that follow are from the Works of Ixtlilxochitl (XLV111),
translated and annotated by Hunter and Ferguson.
"And when they were in the height of their power, there arrived in this
land a man whom they called Quetzalcoatl and others Huemac on account of
his great virtues, considering him as just, saintly [holy], and good;
teaching them good deeds and words, the path of virtue, forgiving them
their vices and sins, giving laws and good doctrine. And in order to
refrain them from their pleasures and dishonesties, he instituted
[established]) fasting for them, and [he was] the first who worshiped and
placed the cross which they called Quiahuiteotl- chicahualizteotl and others
Tonacaquahuitl, which means: God of rains and of health and tree of
sustenance or of life.
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LOL. Classic example of total nonsense. Time untime, tree trunk, snakes and feathers all wrapped in an unreadable words that is meaningless to the ordinary person.
What is the point of all this? Some body got to say to these guys that they are not living in the old language and old times. These are modern times and none can read Latin.
A simple language would suffice.

I have read this 3 times. It twists and turns like a snake to use their own words but will not actually make a point. At least to me.
So can any of you learnd people out there who know the secret of Cherokee language tell this very simple and uneducated soul what it says?
The only guess i can have is that the whole page might be translated in to one meaningless sentence that we might have heard it day after day in a much simpler language.

Anyone care to translate?
Please do not use long words. I am simple.ROFL.
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Spiritual words and spiritual wisdom can only be understand by spiritual people. That is why Jesus spoke in parables he had the same intentions. 2004-2012 ties up with the Mayans.

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feathered serpent - quetzalkoatl

Ummm,OK....I did ask for simple language. I have never heard that word before.
What is it? A kind of snake?
LMAO
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The Quetzalkoatl is to them what Christ is to Christians.

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cherokees only loved moonshine . they never heard about orion ,because indians arnt the smartest souls around .
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I am pulling my hairs out here. I am bold BTW, so will just have to do with pubic ones.

There is no such a thing as feathered snakes. I have looked it up and we didn't do this in school 30 years ago.
They did not have telescopes you say. fair point but what the fuck where they looking through to see a feathered snake?LOL
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The feathered snake corresponds to the Phoenix rising from the ashes in Egyptian philosophy.

The Return of the Calendar of Quetzalcoatl

If Quetzalcoatl, the Plumed Serpent, returns during the Oneness Celebration and the Venus Transit of June 8, 2004, what would be the nature of the civilization that this deity would bring? This Venus Transit will create the opening for the spiritual awakening of mankind – one in which the importance of materialist values will recede. But what about the calendar that Quetzalcoatl will bring at this time? In my books The Mayan Calendar (2001) and the forthcoming The Mayan Calendar and The Transformation of Consciousness (2004) I argue that the combination of the True Tzolkin Count of the Maya with the tun calendar is indeed the Calendar of Quetzalcoatl. “What is the great value of this calendar?” someone may then ask. Rather than comparing technical details with other calendars, the point to realize here is that there are vastly different spiritual consequences of different calendars. The Calendar of Quetzalcoatl has some significant positive things to offer mankind:

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Why don't woowoo's properly reference their materials?

The only sites even mentioning the cherokee calendar are woowoo ones NOT ONE of them state where this calendar came from who interpreted it etc. etc.
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Oh and native americans do use a medicine wheel but I don't understand why the OP's article assumes they have set animals to represent the different elements/directions...


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Only calendar reference, note it's still a wheel which means it is reset every ~240 days. Since it's round it doesn't really have an end?
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