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Cherokee Rattlesnake Prophecy 2012...we are in it!!

 
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Following is from a book written by a Hopi Elder of the Crow Clan. It explains things about TIME UNTIME with a little more clarity and a little less cultural baggage..

Time
Taken from “Earth Mother Our Womb of Life: And the Coming New Heaven” (p. 79)

Time

There is a river, the streams whereof make glad the city of God,
the holiest dwelling-place of the Most High.
(Psalm 46:4)

H.G. Wells once wrote a story about a machine built to travel
in Time. But it doesn’t require a special machine to turn our backs
on God and Heaven. Not only is time travel possible, it has been
happening all around us; but the means to do so has been kept a
dark secret. One group hides it from us for our own good because
it is the ultimate temptation leading us away from Heaven; others
keep it a secret for vast financial gain and political power. Long
ago only the Hebrew priestly order had the knowledge of Time
travel; but it was wrenched from their hands. Our entire planet
is a “stargate” to the rest of the Solar System. The Solar System
is a “stargate” to the Universe. “Stargate” technology has always
been here, but the knowledge has been suppressed. The history
of the war between religion and secret orders goes back to time
immemorial, and its crux, as with most wars, has been a battle over
territory: Space-Time. There are people-- a handful of the very
rich and famous, the members of certain secret societies, private
clubs, and political leaders-- who have crossed the threshold of
Real-Time into Space-Time. These people have hand signals and
items of jewelry that allow them to distinguish one another from
among those persons who have not gone into the Space-Time realm.

The Space Time system soon to be acclaimed throughout our
world (End Time) will not be read as seconds, minutes, and hours
as we have now, but as degrees, and seconds of degrees as on a
compass (direction). Every “moment” in Time will be a “point/
place” in space, hence, the term “Space-Time” (also, Split or
Divided-Time, Half-Time, and Arcadia, among other references).
Every moment in Time will be an “event” in space. In other
words, it won’t be a nanosecond, it will be an “incident” (event).
Space-Time is a misnomer because there is no Time in space.
Time unfolds on and near to the body of a planet. As one moves
further from the surface of a planet, so Time becomes weaker
and weaker until, beyond the effect of the planet’s gravity, Time
ceases to exist. Thus, Time does not exist in outer space. The term
“Space-Time” really means an absence of time. Another way to
conceive of Space-Time is Timelessness. To step into Space-Time
is to step out of Time— out of the progressive calendar Time
given to us upon the Earth. Timeless space is not waiting around
to be discovered by a human physicist; long ago it was discovered
and heavily exploited.

People understand that the Universe existed long before
humans arrived on the scene. Humankind’s understanding of the
Universe is still incomplete. As described earlier in The Sacred
Path of Migration, even our understanding of the operation of
the Solar System in which we live is yet incomplete. Although
mankind is still learning about the Universe we do not think the
Universe is waiting around to be discovered. Just as the Universe is
ancient, Space-Time is ancient, existing since the Universe began.
A long opportunity existed for its discovery by others, which
occurred. Modern mankind cannot see beyond our Real-Time.
Space-Time(lessness) is just beyond the grasp of man’s senses. All
that unfolds as our reality unfolds in the Real-Time we know and
use on Earth.

Because modern man can’t perceive Space-Time, it does not
follow that earlier civilizations could not perceive Space-Time. It
is entirely possible that earlier civilizations reached a point in their
development that led to a more complete understanding of Time,
along with a method and system that exploited this Timeless
Space. It is not impossible that so-called “vanished civilizations”
comprised two classes of people: those who abandoned their
planet and took up residence in Space-Time; and those who
remained on their planet and accepted whatever climatic changes
occurred as an inevitable part of their planet’s, and their own,
developmental progress.

Although often debated, there are recorded instances of visits
by angelic beings, as well as visits by more sinister beings sometimes
called demonic or fallen angels. The angels and the fallen-ones
were all people just like us at one time. The Time-frame in which
a being lives defines what the being is: either remaining within
God’s unfolding Time with their Earth Mothers progressing to a
perfected, angelic form; or living in the Space-Time zone where
we can devolve to a fi endish form fi nally needing to prey upon
others to survive. Only through an understanding of Time, and
how Time affects evolutionary development, can one come to
understand the existence of both “angelic” and “demonic” people.
These two groups, and their transports, are the sources of most of
the unexplained sightings of “Unidentified Flying Objects” made
around the world throughout history.
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Upright men will see his face. Psalm 11

The is only way home to God and that is upright.

Lotus
Hi lotus,in pray formation in the sky they were,down in,then out in smoke balls,dec 21,2006.

"EGYPTAIN MINA BALL" click nature.

Can we get some dna from that egyptain mina ball thanks.

Mountain works in overdrive in wars.
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“To step into Space-Time
is to step out of Time— out of the progressive calendar Time
given to us upon the Earth.”

My take on this, from my own experience.
Time/Untime itself is an event, or action, whereby one steps out of time. It's a state of timelessness. It’s not a stargate, it’s stepping out of time into another plane and connecting with your higher self, where all aspects of your being exist at the spiritual level. When you do that, you can access all of your incarnations along the ring of time, which is really your over soul.

These incarnations are the coordinates spoken of. The various spans of those lives are the events. There are rings within rings. They turn like tumblers on a combination lock and move in cycles (circles- Flower of Life).

The cosmology of trees explain not only the physical universe, but primarily describe the spiritual realms and our relation to it while in the physical. Hence, tree of Life, Universal tree, Stone Tree, etc.

We exist where shadow & light converge (material, in time & space). Above is light, below are the realms of darkness. (Yin/Yang, Ka/Ba, Vesica Pisces, Tree of Life, Flower of Life, Cube of Metetron, in general, Jungian Psychology. Also, Freudian; id, ego, super ego = spirit, soul, super soul).

The tree symbol represents your over soul, for those that have one, not all do yet. The branches your lives. We return to the center upon death, over again, until we are sent no more out. The more we are sent out into this realm, the larger the tree becomes. The over soul consists of many souls intertwined, hence soul groups.

They are wrong about the feathered serpent though. He is not a guide, friend, or savior. He waits to devour those that step out of the safety of time. He was set there to guard the realms of Untime against the encroachments of the living, those existing in time. He cannot step into time anymore and resents us mortals because we can. IOW: He can no longer incarnate and seeks to find a way to do so.

He is likened to Christ, when in fact he is more akin to Satan. His purpose is to guard the tree of life from encroachements of the living. Think of Adam & Eve kicked out of the garden of Eden so they could not partake in the Tree of Life.

The only other way to get to the realm of Untime without stepping out of time, is to die.
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You all are a bunch of illiterate shits. Why can you all not read and educate your dumbass selfs? The Mayans were the prophets. Over 2000 years of knowledge and information they had on you and your non-knowing selfs. Read and learn people. Research. God what's wrong with you sceptics? Read and learn about the Mayans and the Atlantian people.
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You all are a bunch of illiterate shits. Why can you all not read and educate your dumbass selfs? The Mayans were the prophets. Over 2000 years of knowledge and information they had on you and your non-knowing selfs. Read and learn people. Research. God what's wrong with you sceptics? Read and learn about the Mayans and the Atlantian people.
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the Mayans ARE the Atlantians!!!
They have survived 2 Poleshifts on this planet
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Tezcatlipoca also played a role in deluding the priesthood of Izapa in Southern Mexico into believing that the end of creation would fall on December 21, 2012. This priesthood wanted the Long Count to begin on the day, corresponding to August 11, when the sun was in zenith in their own particular location, which would make this appear as the center of the world. This is the reason for the error. Much later, in Palenque, a correction would be attempted so that the end of the Long Count would fall on the actual completion date of divine creation, October 28, 2011. Yet, at least until now, the Izapan priesthood has had the upper hand.

The materially based calendars of Tezcatlipoca have in common that they block people’s path to the prophetic Calendar of Quetzalcoatl and encourage them to settle for something much less. Distorted calendars that do not accurately reflect the divine process of creation fail to point out a clear direction for the path of humanity towards Enlightenment. Only the True Calendar of Quetzalcoatl charts the time plan towards Enlightenment.
[link to www.calleman.com]

Quetzalcoatl: The Venus Transit and The Return of the Energy of Christ and of Quetzalcoatl


It has been suggested several times that the energies of Christ and Quetzalcoatl are the same or at least closely associated. If nothing else, it was in the baktun ruled by Quetzalcoatl, AD 40-434, that Christianity expanded to a world religion. This, in contrast to many of the religions that had preceded it, brought a message of love and forgiveness to mankind. On a symbolic level the Cross of Christianity was an expropriation of the World Tree and Quetzalcoatl was really the Serpent that in so many traditions was winding around the World Tree and in this symbolism the two energies are immediately connected.

We have yet to explain however what was meant by the prophecy that Quetzalcoatl should return from the East after, around the year AD 1000, he disappeared on a raft. We should then first note that, since then, many pairs of Venus Transits have occurred that did not seem to bring the return of Quetzalcoatl. The most recent examples of such pairs are those of 1518/1526, 1631/1639, 1761/1769 and 1874/1882.

(Venus Transits usually come pair-wise separated by exactly eight years minus two days). While these seem to have coincided with significant steps in the evolution of the Earth to a Global Brain through extended communications, they have not brought peace and harmony to the world. What then is the difference with the pair of Venus Transits that we are now about to experience June 8, 2004 and June 6, 2012? Why should we expect a return of Quetzalcoatl this time, when it did not happen at those previous Venus Transits?

The reason is that at the current time we are in an �Underworld� in the Mayan calendar that, in contrast to at previous times, favors the Eastern Hemisphere and the right brain half. Thus, the light that is now entering the consciousness field of the Earth falls preferentially on the Eastern Hemisphere. We are in an Underworld that will set an end to about 400 years (a baktun in Mayan language) of dominance of the world by the Western and left brain hemispheres. This is the explanation that it is only now, with this pair of Venus Transits, that we have reasons to expect the return of the energy of Quetzalcoatl. Thus, both the myths of a return from Venus and from the East (looked upon from the perspective of the Western Hemisphere) now make sense.

It seems likely that this Eastern energy will have a strong emission point in India, where for instance the Golden City outside of Madras is about to inaugurated in direct association with the Venus Passage. At the present place on humanity�s path towards Enlightenment it seems obvious that balance and harmony can only come from the East. If nothing else, part of what is threatening the survival of our species is the dominance of the left brain. This brain half tends to look abstractly at the life of our planet and regard it as dead matter to be exploited based on its calculations.

A crucial aspect of Enlightenment is the balancing of our brains, and on a larger scale the Earth�s, hemispheres. A pre-requisite for the Mass Enlightenment to happen at the completion of creation on October 28, 2011 is that such a balance is created. The creation of such a balance is really what sets an end to our externalizing of inner conflicts and a return to living fully in the present. This is exactly the change that we may expect the energy of Quetzalcoatl to help bring about � if we co-create its manifestation in the physical realm. If Quetzalcoatl is a symbol of the energy of light and this energy is now falling on the Eastern Hemisphere, it will now indeed serve to create a balance.

Without going to deep into Mayan calendrics we should note that the different Underworlds create a sensitivity of human beings to different fields of reality. The gravitational and electromagnetic fields are examples of such fields, which human beings became sensitive to and learn to control in lower Underworlds than the present Galactic.

The current Galactic Underworld, however, which had its inception on January 5, 1999 in the Gregorian calendar, brings a sensitivity to the very consciousness field of the planet and living beings. There are several names for the energy that this field organizes, such as prana or Qi, and its most common description may be the �ether�. Another way of looking at this field is to regard it as a heavenly creation field that allows for immediate communication across the universe and synchronizes creation across the universe. This field then is not one of the common fields of physics, but a creation field that only now human beings are developing sensitivity to. What this means is that for communication human beings no longer need to transport themselves to another place or use the field of electromagnetism. Instead what is needed is to develop the intuitive capabilities of the right brain half that allow us to connect to the heavens, the fields that create the universe.

If a significant segment of humanity is in resonance with this field of creation it would more or less by necessity mean that it would be able to function more harmoniously. Its connections through this field would depend on the capabilities of the right brain half, the brain half that is now in the process of balancing the world and eliminating its injustices. This is a process that leads human beings away from looking at the world through a dualist filter and projecting conflicts onto the external world. It is also a process that is about to set an end to the linear time consciousness of the left brain and so supporting a life lived in the present, in the power of now, if you will.

Most profoundly, however, this is the creation field, the ether of consciousness, that develops in accordance with the divine plan as this may be charted by the Mayan calendar. Thus, whoever has a mind in resonance with this field will act in a way that is aligned with the higher purpose of humanity and the planet and creating a pathway to heaven that will manifest on Earth, the Kingdom of Heaven. This prophecy is very much a part of the Christian tradition and the time allotted to humanity for this is the period between the two Venus Passages on June 8, 2004 and June 6, 2012.

But then, how is Quetzalcoatl to return? Regardless of by what means, anyone who is able to connect to the Oneness of All at the time of the Celebration will become a living incarnation of Quetzalcoatl. To become real the energy of Quetzalcoatl must manifest in human beings. At this time this must happen through through the absorbtion of the energy of light on the right brain and unifying this with the left. This is really about activating Kundalini energy for which humanity may now be ripe. A winding energy of light in our bodies, a manifestation of the movement of the serpent of light, Quetzalcoatl, may serve this purpose. This will set the road to wholeness in an otherwise turbulent time.

For further information about the spiritual meaning of the Venus Transit and the energy shift that it is associated with see the web page www.OnenessCelebration.com.

Carl Johan Calleman is one of the main teachers at the Oneness Festival , the spiritual retreats including topics like Enlightenment, Mayan Calendar, The Venus Transit and the significance of the year 2012. He is also the author of Solving the Greatest Mystery of Our Time: The Mayan Calendar and the forthcoming The Mayan calendar and the Transformation of Consciousness.



[link to www.experiencefestival.com]
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Ah yes the return of Quetzalcoatl
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:pic56:

:name22:

One of the first prophecies I studied....

:jhome:
Mass Enlightenment first needs to develop before we can begin our journey home.

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not sure about the validity , but a "cherokee rattlesnake prophecy" has my vote for best sounding doom prophecy.
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It's unfortunate that many of the native's original writings have been hidden away or disregarded simply because it was above modern man's ability to understand or accept without fearing it. Anyone with a genuine interest in such things would do a complete research and read the entire transcript.

The rattlesnake constellation shows mans progress or lack of regarding earthly events. It provides much information when one has the knowledge required to understand it. This is why the natives were vetoed from entering the UN building ("House Of Mica" as it was written) to give such warnings of things because they were feared and misunderstood by modern society. If they had been given respectful consideration, perhaps the prophecies of WW1 & WW2 would have never occured.

Currently, where we are regarding Rattlesnake prophecy is...

"The House In The Sky" which says that they will build a house and throw it in the sky and when people are living on a permanent basis in this house in the sky...it is the sign that Great Spirit is about to grab the earth for a third shaking. This time not with one hand but both hands.
And whoever dropped that "gourd of ashes"(atomic bomb)upon them it is going to drop. At that time there will be villages of stone in this land so great that when you stand in the villages you will not be able to see out. The stone will grow up from the ground and you will not be able to see beyond the village.
There will come a time when the morning sun will rise and this village of stone will be there and the evening, there would just be steam coming from the ground.


It's very clear to me what is likely to occur but in acuality the consciousness level of the planet can change this outcome if so desired. The natives always come in peace and have done so many times only to be ignored or laughed at while others prefer to do things such as protest and riot. Natives do not force their will or knowledge upon the people, they only ask that their words are given respectful consideration and because they have been denied time and time again the state of the world has come to it's current situation.

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feathered serpent - quetzalkoatl

Ummm,OK....I did ask for simple language. I have never heard that word before.
What is it? A kind of snake?
LMAO


quetzalcoatl is related to mayans its a flying snake sky god
dont know that much about it they just sounded relatable
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My quest has taken me on a long journey which I seek the answer to the following: Tree Trunk . Serpent going up . Flowers in background. Journey began 1993. My past-life's" Quetzalcoatl and Helena P. Blavatsky. To understand me I am The First and I am The Last. Begin by reading Revelations and then start reading the biblical stories and you see the past in a different and clear way. The Great Red Dragon = ESAU and The Dragon's Tail = Jacob. The Ten Crown's and Ten Heads are the same = Esau's first son and his son's 6 children. Add Esau's 3 other son's and you'll equal The Ten Horns of The Great Red Dragon. Jesus's name is Greek and that's why you don't understand for I hold the KEY of David, what I open you can not close again. ESAU but maybe John The Baptist's true name of Yahya. What we look like in the past we will look like in the present and future but male or female. I am The Third Secret of Fatima. The Time draws close to it's end and The Power of Prayer plays a major factor? The human mind is powerful. Think if I can make it rain and heal or that I can effect one region of land and make strong winds, think of the power behind a whole world thinking and focusing on the same chaos! Peace of Mind brings Inner Peace and with Inner Peace that will create World Peace. Follow The Light on The Path and you'll find The Holy Grail.
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Spiritual words and spiritual wisdom can only be understand by spiritual people. That is why Jesus spoke in parables he had the same intentions. 2004-2012 ties up with the Mayans. Lotus
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Jesus is a made up story. You're an idiot.
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feathered serpent - quetzalkoatl

Ummm,OK....I did ask for simple language. I have never heard that word before.
What is it? A kind of snake?
LMAO


quetzalcoatl is related to mayans its a flying snake sky god
dont know that much about it they just sounded relatable


My quest has taken me on a long journey which I seek the answer to the following: Tree Trunk . Serpent going up . Flowers in background. Journey began 1993. My past-life's" Quetzalcoatl and Helena P. Blavatsky. To understand me I am The First and I am The Last. Begin by reading Revelations and then start reading the biblical stories and you see the past in a different and clear way. The Great Red Dragon = ESAU and The Dragon's Tail = Jacob. The Ten Crown's and Ten Heads are the same = Esau's first son and his son's 6 children. Add Esau's 3 other son's and you'll equal The Ten Horns of The Great Red Dragon. Jesus's name is Greek and that's why you don't understand for I hold the KEY of David, what I open you can not close again. ESAU but maybe John The Baptist's true name of Yahya. What we look like in the past we will look like in the present and future but male or female. I am The Third Secret of Fatima. The Time draws close to it's end and The Power of Prayer plays a major factor? The human mind is powerful. Think if I can make it rain and heal or that I can effect one region of land and make strong winds, think of the power behind a whole world thinking and focusing on the same chaos! Peace of Mind brings Inner Peace and with Inner Peace that will create World Peace. Follow The Light on The Path and you'll find The Holy Grail.
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My predictions and proof can be found at Farshores.org and click on witness to End Times and you'll see why the mayor of New Orleans made a remark that God is Mad at our city. I am only on a quest and nothing else but this quest has led me to the life of Saint Anthony of Lisbon, Portugal which name lives as San Antonio, Texas and Lisbon is only a few miles from Fatima, Portugal. Coming Full Circle from Beginning to End. The Fatima Child P.O. Box 12895 San Antonio, Texas 78212-0895 It's time to make myself known for I am making a trip soon for I am invited by the family of the Biblical Esau in the old land of Edom which is now named Saudi Arabia to visit. I welcome feedback but by slow mail only.
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whatever
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Heres something else...

In the year 2004 and 2012 an alignment will take place both on the Cherokee Calendar and in the heavens of the Rattlesnake Constellation both. It is the time of the doublehead serpent stick. It is the time of the Red of Orion and Jupiter against White Blue of Pleadies and Venus. It is the time of the Uku's choosing. It is the time of the Beloved Woman and MYSTERIES OF TIME UNTIME. It is the Time Untime of the THUNDERBOLT and the spirits of Lightning Mountains

Blue and Red??? Anyone getting this??
Sacred colors of balance for Lakota

Blue and Red Kachina of the Hopi
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I know there is something in it. I am too lazy and/or too stupid to study it though.
Time is only a thing created to order karma.
We have to choose: will we take a spiritual path as a human being or will we go down and only believe in matter and therefor the flesh?
Our earthly brains don´t comprehend that stuff, only the very enlightened can understand something.
No, not the illuminati, they are dark.
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The Holy Family in Christian belief is depicted most often wearing clothes of Red and Blue. Usually, they wear Blue Cloaks, symbolising they were fully conscious beings, born of the Sea, walking in Light, ascending to the Sky, and belonging to Heaven. Red was worn for the Sacred Love of the Creator God, which they came to proclaim and share, through Sacrifice and Love.

The East Indian Peoples, the original Aryan Peoples, have a pantheon of gods, the most sacred of which is Shiva, who is part of a Trinity which includes Brahma(Creator), Vishnu(Preserver), and Shiva(Destroyer). They are most often the ones depicted with Blue Skin. Blue skin represents their Enlightened state and Holiness/Wholeness. Other Gods are painted blue too. The Sadhu, the ascetics and followers of Shiva, often wear Red or Orange robes, to let others know of their sacred calling and their willingness to live in a Sacred Way, following God.

The Scottish Highlanders, painted themselves with Blue Clay before battle calling in their Spirit Helpers. Today a blue ribbon is used on medals and awards, as a symbol of distinction and high honour for those that Sacrifice for others and show their Selflessness. The sacred leader of the Mongols, Genghis Khan, was descended from the Clan of the Blue Wolves. Blue Stones, like the Sapphire, symbolise Heaven and the attributes of Truth and Contemplation, which are said to bring clarity to the one wearing the blue stone. The Blue Bird carries the blessing of Happiness on its wing and is another spirit messenger. There are many other instances where blue is mentioned to indicate that a People remembers their relationships to the Sky Beings; the Star Beings, the Children of God, also known as Thunder Beings or Dragons.
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Blue people.

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I´ve got it.
The serpent is bound to earth. The feathers imply spirit.
It is a perfect balance between matter and spirit, dark and light. That is what we re bound to do as humans.
The balance between Lucifer and Ahriman. Balance between light and dark. Ahriman is incarnating to lure us to only adore the flesh. When those forces will strive to be better than God they suck. If they do their job, it is okay.
We human bing have the to choose, to find BALANCE.
(If mrs. Blavatsky here is real, she´d tell us a bit more, and of the things she might have learnd after her death)
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Perhaps you should sit down and read the book of Revelations in the bible?

Then you will know the word "destruction" like you have never known before.

My God gave you the option to believe. Remember the first settlers whom your ancestors helped to mark the American thanksgiving?

Remember they were christians to this land. Your ancestors could have accepted the word then but you kept to your old ways of shamanism.

You brought the change upon yourselves. If you had accepted the new word of salvation when it had come, you may have altered the destiny of your history.

But you did not.
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That is the biggest load of bullshit I've read here at glp today and believe me there has been a "shitload!"
What would you do if some "enlightened" ones were to come to your home today and try to convert you to their beliefs?
You call what the Indians did "shamanism" but wasn't the things jesus supposedly did also a form of it?
They didn't bring the change upon themselves, selfish greedy men brought the change.
But that is what life is unfortunately, change.
It comes for all sooner or later and as time is cyclical it shall come again.
It amuses me that christians try to push their beliefs on people when religion is so very personal a thing that one should come willingly and not out of fear.
But I also find it amusing that Indians still blame white man for their downfall when there isn't an Indian or white man alive today that had anything to do with it.
The same goes for all who choose to blame others for what has happened in the past.
Most Indians today are like most other humans, we are all a melting pot of colors and nationalities.
I wonder if there is even one "pure" person left???
We are all our brother's keepers whether we are kin or not.
Tptb have won time and time again because they get us to focus on our differences and blame each other instead of putting the blame where it should go.
Blame the greedy, money hungry, power driven, assholes who are the ones who actually benefit from the tragedies.
Blame them!
Until we all learn to live together and accept that we all need to change our ways of thinking this world is going to keep on making the same mistakes generation after generation.
Will peace ever be possible?
I doubt it seriously because that would mean everyone on this planet taking responsibility for their part in the way this world has turned out and not looking to an "invisible" god for help; but looking within themselves and doing what god(s) has told them to do all along.
"Treat others as you would like to be treated"
Simple...really hf
"Absolute power corrupts absolutely"

"The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams."
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A feathered serpent is a comet.

Not that hard to figure out really.
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The scattering to the gathering foretold of in Daniel ch. 12. This is what it is all about.

The thing to understand for those who have Hope in the Moses of the Second Exodus, the Aleph Tav the Living Word who is the I Am Being All Things Even To The Light Of All Mankind, who will do just as he said to the 'jot' and 'tittle'. We who love him and know him.

Jeremiah 46. Scattering begins. 568 BC.

Bondage of Egypt until the first Exodus = 430 Years.

Second Bondage of scattering to the second Exodus, 6 times but not seven.

Second Bondage of the people who would be redeemed and become a part of the Kingdom of YHVH of his Yisrael called the Saints who are washed and redeemed in the Life of the Spirit of the Blood of the Lamb = 2580 years.

568 BC adding 2580 years = 2012 to the Fullness of the Gentiles.

The Regathering will be done. The SIGN before that trumpet blast has been foretold. Matthew 24. The sun and moon will not give their light, the stars will fall from the heavens, the heavens will be shaken and the Son of Man will be seen coming in the clouds of the heavens.

That year be ready on Yom Teruah for all who have made it to the 1335. Be ready in Life or Death of the Flesh for ALL will be gathered who trusted in the provision for remission of sin, the Messiah Yahshua who is now at this moment at the right hand of YHVH in the heavens, whether leaving the flesh before then or after.

For those who would be a part of that great family reunion, it is all in the Life that was given of the Blood of the Lamb for remission of sin. For those Walking in that Spirit and Truth who have become born again and are residing in the Tree of Life.

2012/2013. The Next Exodus. Watching. And part of my heritage is Cherokee. Selah. Shalom.
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I am Cherokee too, I live in Tahlequah OK, and I participate in our Traditional Spirituality. Give me a piece of candy for that too. I have never heard of this "prophecy" from elder Cherokees. It is all over the interwebs, but f its Cherokee I have yet to meet a Cherokee that has heard of it. It sounds scary though. We do have some prophecies, but they arent tied to dates. We didnt used to have dates. ᏣᏓᎦᏎᏍᏕᏍᏗ&#506​6; ᎠᎴ ᏕᎦᏓᎨᏳᏎᏍᏗ
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I am Cherokee too, I live in Tahlequah OK, and I participate in our Traditional Spirituality. Give me a piece of candy for that too. I have never heard of this "prophecy" from elder Cherokees. It is all over the interwebs, but f its Cherokee I have yet to meet a Cherokee that has heard of it. It sounds scary though. We do have some prophecies, but they arent tied to dates. We didnt used to have dates. ᏣᏓᎦᏎᏍᏕᏍᏗ&#506​6; ᎠᎴ ᏕᎦᏓᎨᏳᏎᏍᏗ
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that umm idk what there talkin bout but...i love my culture
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that umm idk what there talkin bout but...i love my culture
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Cherokee Rattlesnake Prophecy????????

How come I have never heard of this before? I consider myself pretty up on American Indian lore.

How come the Shawnee dont have a future prophecy?
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feathered serpent - quetzalkoatl

Ummm,OK....I did ask for simple language. I have never heard that word before.
What is it? A kind of snake?
LMAO
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Google it.
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Sounds like the 13th zodiac
Ophucus.(sp)
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More fuel to the fire.

And this is yet another calender I didn't know about that follows the ancient mayan calender conundrum.

The list is huge...
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What others do you know of?
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Only those who have worked on the three factors of conscious revolution will be spared from what is coming to our humanity. Our next cycle will be one of fire. Our planet has had these cycles before. It is a cleanse process. It is time to get the "fruits of this crop" Just like it happened before a few will make it to the next planetary change. My advise is to work hard in our spiritual path. Running to the mountains or the so called safe spots in the world will not be answer. Our whole world will be engulf by these changes. The time is close and the signs are there. Let's pray for humanity.
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LOL. Classic example of total nonsense. Time untime, tree trunk, snakes and feathers all wrapped in an unreadable words that is meaningless to the ordinary person.
What is the point of all this? Some body got to say to these guys that they are not living in the old language and old times. These are modern times and none can read Latin.
A simple language would suffice.

I have read this 3 times. It twists and turns like a snake to use their own words but will not actually make a point. At least to me.
So can any of you learnd people out there who know the secret of Cherokee language tell this very simple and uneducated soul what it says?
The only guess i can have is that the whole page might be translated in to one meaningless sentence that we might have heard it day after day in a much simpler language.

Anyone care to translate?
Please do not use long words. I am simple.ROFL.
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you mean classic example of misunderstanding due to cultural differences. if you have little background info on this it seems like nonsense but its just because it might as well be written in a different language if you dont realise that they are talking about the movement of the planets etc. time untime as far as i know is just the way of saying dreamtime
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