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<<PROOF>> THE EARTH DOESN'T REVOLVE AROUND THE SUN.

 
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Kinda like how the light is bent when you stick your hand under water. Same thing happens with the Sun and Moon. I didn't even need to look that up. I know it through personal observation.
Water is tangible for the last time, why do you defend a lie, let it go, its okay to let it go, your not a fish you don't breath water, air can't bend light!!!!!!
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A third time, because it was ignored by Punisher (big surprise)
[link to www.islandnet.com]
Both inferior and superior mirages are caused by air bending light.
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Think about it for a moment. Let's say we had a ring of suns around the earth, with their edges appearing to touch one another, and going in a direction as to appear to go overhead from one horizon to another for a particular observer. Each sun is one-half degree wide, as is the real sun, and so there are 720 of them required to make a complete 360 degree ring. Now move the ring (or the earth) so that the ring appears to be around the horizon, with each sun in the ring being on the horizon, for that same observer. If the image of each sun were larger, say 0.51 degrees instead of 0.50 degrees as when overhead, how can there still be the same number of them in a complete circle? 720 of them at 0.51 degrees diameter would equal just over 367 degrees, but there is only 360 degrees in a full circle.
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Put the BONG down, put the BONG down and do it NOW!!!!!!
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Again, because it was ignored by Punisher (big surprise)
[link to www.islandnet.com]
Both inferior and superior mirages caused by air bending light.
I read your stupid link, and for the last time its not light bending, heat is energy, the heat rises, air couldn't care less.

What color is the light you see in a mirage?

None, because its not light being bent!!!!!!!
 Quoting: Punisher

It is light bending. It is a measurable effect. You're wrong as usual.

The color depends on what light is being bent. Usually, in the case of an inferior mirage it would be blue from the color of the sky but could also be white if there are clouds. If in the case of a superior mirage then it would be whatever color the boat or other object over the horizon is. Quit being willfully ignorant and you might just learn something.
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Lets feed the troll….. I HAVE seen planets through my OWN TELESCOPE, namely Mars, Jupiter Saturn and Venus all of which show clear disks and most of which show features - the clouds of Jupiter, the icecaps of Mars, the rings of Saturn.
 Quoting: Full Tilt 318980

When did you see them, name the year and season, I'll tell you because those sighting have a calender according to this science fiction, you can't see anyone planet at anyone time due to the revolutions of all planets around the sun according to the lies of science, some taking less time and others more, so, this should be easy enough to remember such an extraordinary event, post your lies for all to to read, I dare you!!!!!!!

Oh what a tangle web we weave!!!!!!

I know your still on-line, post them quickly cause if your gonna research your shit I'll see you in a while crocodile.
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Your logic is a disgrace to those who follow the Book of Enoch. (Try reading a copy of the Enoch/Horus edition)
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LOL, you read my Jesus-Horus thread, pretty good eh, sheep are slaves once more, I thank my Great Enoch for showing me all of this, thanks be to GOD!!!
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At mid-day when your indirect view of the sun you are closest to the sun at that point, then, why is it that at sunset when the Earth according to science is spinning away from the sun (getting further), does the sun seem bigger when in fact it should look smaller because we are distancing ourselves away from the sun?

Because the Earth doesn't revolve around the sun, its the sun that revolves around the Earth, this is why its bigger when you see it sinking on the horizon, its mid-day on someone elses region of the Earth, thus, lower from where we are because of the curve of the Earth (horizon), the sun is no longer above us, its vertical to our ground level, that's why its bigger.

Case and point, science is a joke.

Punisher Rules!!!!!!
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THIS is proof? I'll get your coat.
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Lets feed the troll….. I HAVE seen planets through my OWN TELESCOPE, namely Mars, Jupiter Saturn and Venus all of which show clear disks and most of which show features - the clouds of Jupiter, the icecaps of Mars, the rings of Saturn.
When did you see them, name the year and season, I'll tell you because those sighting have a calender according to this science fiction, you can't see anyone planet at anyone time due to the revolutions of all planets around the sun according to the lies of science, some taking less time and others more, so, this should be easy enough to remember such an extraordinary event, post your lies for all to to read, I dare you!!!!!!!

Oh what a tangle web we weave!!!!!!

I know your still on-line, post them quickly cause if your gonna research your shit I'll see you in a while crocodile.
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I last looked at Jupiter two weeks ago through a telescope at about 10 pm
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The color depends on what light is being bent. Usually, in the case of an inferior mirage it would be blue from the color of the sky but could also be white if there are clouds. If in the case of a superior mirage then it would be whatever color the boat or other object over the horizon is. Quit being willfully ignorant and you might just learn something.
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Its not light being bent for the LAST TIME, the colors don't chose the mirage, on a hot road surface those heat waves are the color of the pavement, because the light is not bent only your interpretation of the image, that's why they call it an optical phenomenon or illusion!!!
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Radar, another form of electromagnetic energy, is also bent by air.

[link to www.weather.com]
REFRACTION
The bending of light or radar beam as it passes through a zone of contrasting properties, such as atmospheric density, water vapor, or temperature.


The whole section on anomalous propagation here
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

And atmospheric ducting here
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Hey, all of you who are arguing with Punisher, Whats your authority? Where is your PROOF, HUH?
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I last looked at Jupiter two weeks ago through a telescope at about 10 pm
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Okay, prove it by posting a link confirming this information!

And post it quickly or its not valid.
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The color depends on what light is being bent. Usually, in the case of an inferior mirage it would be blue from the color of the sky but could also be white if there are clouds. If in the case of a superior mirage then it would be whatever color the boat or other object over the horizon is. Quit being willfully ignorant and you might just learn something.
Its not light being bent for the LAST TIME, the colors don't chose the mirage, on a hot road surface those heat waves are the color of the pavement, because the light is not bent only your interpretation of the image, that's why they call it an optical phenomenon or illusion!!!
 Quoting: Punisher

Wrong again. From that page about inferior mirages
When we view an inferior-mirage "water pool" on a road or desert or other hot surface, what we are actually seeing is the image of the bluish sky being strongly refracted by the hot air near the surface so that it appears to our mind to be water lying on the surface.

Apparently you didn't even look at the part about superior mirages where an object is viewed over the horizon such as a boat or iceberg. Here's the link again in case you decide to overcome your ignorance.
[link to www.islandnet.com]
Also from that page is the very definition of a mirage.

"Mirage: A refraction phenomenon wherein an image of some distant object is made to appear displaced from its true position because of large vertical density variations near the surface; the image may appear distorted, inverted, or wavering.

The definition of refraction from dictionary.com
1. Physics. the change of direction of a ray of light, sound, heat, or the like, in passing obliquely from one medium into another in which its wave velocity is different.
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Radar, another form of electromagnetic energy, is also bent by air.

[link to www.weather.com]
REFRACTION
The bending of light or radar beam as it passes through a zone of contrasting properties, such as atmospheric density, water vapor, or temperature.


The whole section on anomalous propagation here
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

And atmospheric ducting here
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 341923

Did you read any of the shit links your posting????
Anyhow, none of your links explain as to why the sun is bigger at sunset other then its a MIRAGE!!!!!!!!

FUCKTARDS!!!!!!!!!
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I last looked at Jupiter two weeks ago through a telescope at about 10 pm
Okay, prove it by post a link confirming this information!
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Yeah that’s right I always create a web page documenting every time I go out with a telescope asking for four independent witnesses and an Officer of the law to sign sworn statements that I was there.

Tell me do you document your life in this way? Kind of creepy if you do.

Just come out with it and say I and the hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of others who have seen a planet through a telescope are lying if thats what you think.
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Hey, all of you who are arguing with Punisher, Whats your authority? Where is your PROOF, HUH?
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Thanks for comradeship bro, none will be able to justify a lie with reason only links of the lie as they have been taught to obey.
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Radar, another form of electromagnetic energy, is also bent by air.

[link to www.weather.com]
REFRACTION
The bending of light or radar beam as it passes through a zone of contrasting properties, such as atmospheric density, water vapor, or temperature.


The whole section on anomalous propagation here
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

And atmospheric ducting here
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Did you read any of the shit links your posting????
Anyhow, none of your links explain as to why the sun is bigger at sunset other then its a MIRAGE!!!!!!!!

FUCKTARDS!!!!!!!!!
 Quoting: Punisher

Did you read them? Did you read what I wrote introducing them? Did I say they say anything about why the sun is bigger at sunset? No. I am countering your quite wrong claim that air can not bend light. The above links involve radar, another form of electromagnetic radiation, being bent by air. Please learn to read and comprehend.
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Just come out with it and say I and the hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of others who have seen a planet through a telescope are lying if thats what you think.
 Quoting: Full Tilt 318980

I'm not gonna double check your info to see if its consistent with the table of lies, because I know there are no planets, what you and million other people saw thru those lens of yours is a MIRAGE, here's a few links about the ILLUSION, compliments of the Punisher, lol!!!!!

[link to www.islandnet.com]
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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At mid-day when your indirect view of the sun you are closest to the sun at that point, then, why is it that at sunset when the Earth according to science is spinning away from the sun (getting further), does the sun seem bigger when in fact it should look smaller because we are distancing ourselves away from the sun?

 Quoting: Punisher

Hey moron, since when did the Earth start spinning AWAY from the Sun? The Earth spins TOWARDS the Sun wunderkid, just watch it as it rises over the horizon!!!

Therefore, if we use your same dumbass logic, YOU are closest to the APPROACHING SUN at Sunset. If we again USE YOUR RETARDED LOGIC, that explains why you see a bigger Sun sitting behind your "tiny wittle tumb" at sunset.

What a TARD!
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Professor Lincoln Barnett, Einstein's chief disciple wrote: "We cannot feel our motion through space. Nor has any experiment ever proved that the Earth is in motion, (witness the zero-velocity result of the Michelson Morley experiment)".

These fellows at least continue to believe in Geocentricty: that the Earth doesn't rotate!

www.geocentricity.com
[link to earthdeception.googlepages.com]
www.fixedearth.com
[link to www.geocentricperspective.com]
[link to www.answersingenesis.org]
[link to www.freerepublic.com]
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[link to www.geocentricity.com]

[link to www.fixedearth.com]
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I'm not gonna double check your info to see if its consistent with the table of lies, because I know there are no planets, what you and million other people saw thru those lens of yours is a MIRAGE, here's a few links about the ILLUSION, compliments of the Punisher, lol!!!!!

[link to www.islandnet.com]
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Punisher


Ahhh.. So you basic atiutude when confronted with evidence you don't like is:
lala

Doesn't surprise me in the least. Why don't you try taking your nose out of your Book of Enoch and actually observing the sky through a telescope - you might be surprised by what you see.
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Hey moron, since when did the Earth start spinning AWAY from the Sun? The Earth spins TOWARDS the Sun wunderkid, just watch it as it rises over the horizon!!!

Therefore, if we use your same dumbass logic, YOU are closest to the APPROACHING SUN at Sunset. If we again USE YOUR RETARDED LOGIC, that explains why you see a bigger Sun sitting behind your "tiny wittle tumb" at sunset.

What a TARD!
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HEY DUMMY, YOUR AGREEING WITH ME, READ THE O-P AGAIN!
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Professor Lincoln Barnett, Einstein's chief disciple wrote: "We cannot feel our motion through space. Nor has any experiment ever proved that the Earth is in motion, (witness the zero-velocity result of the Michelson Morley experiment)".

These fellows at least continue to believe in Geocentricty: that the Earth doesn't rotate!
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YOU TOO ARE AGREEING WITH ME, FINALLY!!!!
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I'm not gonna double check your info to see if its consistent with the table of lies, because I know there are no planets, what you and million other people saw thru those lens of yours is a MIRAGE, here's a few links about the ILLUSION, compliments of the Punisher, lol!!!!!

[link to www.islandnet.com]
[link to en.wikipedia.org]


Ahhh.. So you basic atiutude when confronted with evidence you don't like is:
 Quoting: Full Tilt 318980

Why is it that when you post those links in your defense they are valid, and the same links when posted as a rebuttal to that defense they quite quickly become just blah, blah, blah????????
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Hey moron, since when did the Earth start spinning AWAY from the Sun? The Earth spins TOWARDS the Sun wunderkid, just watch it as it rises over the horizon!!!

Therefore, if we use your same dumbass logic, YOU are closest to the APPROACHING SUN at Sunset. If we again USE YOUR RETARDED LOGIC, that explains why you see a bigger Sun sitting behind your "tiny wittle tumb" at sunset.

What a TARD!

HEY DUMMY, YOUR AGREEING WITH ME, READ THE O-P AGAIN!
 Quoting: Punisher

Read it yourself moron!

You're entire theory is based on the lame assumption that the Earth is rotating "away" from the Sun so it should appear smaller at Sunset. (Duh, you do remember what you said right?)

My point is PROVEN - you are a TARD!!!
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I'm not gonna double check your info to see if its consistent with the table of lies, because I know there are no planets, what you and million other people saw thru those lens of yours is a MIRAGE, here's a few links about the ILLUSION, compliments of the Punisher, lol!!!!!

[link to www.islandnet.com]
[link to en.wikipedia.org]


Ahhh.. So you basic atiutude when confronted with evidence you don't like is:
Why is it that when you post those links in your defense they are valid, and the same links when posted as a rebuttal to that defense they quite quickly become just blah, blah, blah????????
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1. I didn't post those links

2. Those links refer to mirages - and do not in any way reference the planets - have you really read them.

The idea that the observed planets are mirages is laughable and something you just made up, not supported by the links you quoted in anyway. Planets move in an extremely predictable way that can be forecast years ahead of time, mirages are transient atmospheric phenomena whose appearances cannot be forecast years in advance.

Please get a telescope and open your eyes.
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Read it yourself moron!

You're entire theory is based on the lame assumption that the Earth is rotating "away" from the Sun so it should appear smaller at Sunset. (Duh, you do remember what you said right?)

My point is PROVEN - you are a TARD!!!
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No-one can be this dumb, your faking, your helping me out by calling me names so you don't blow the cover to the rest of the sleeping sheep, thanks bro but its time the monkeys become sheep again and awaken.

GOD bless!
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CLICK ON THE LINKS RETARDS, YOU'LL LEARN SOMETHING NEW!!!!

Thanks 478938 & no hard feelings I hope!!!
1. I didn't post those links

2. Those links refer to mirages - and do not in any way reference the planets - have you really read them.

The idea that the observed planets are mirages is laughable and something you just made up, not supported by the links you quoted in anyway. Planets move in an extremely predictable way that can be forecast years ahead of time, mirages are transient atmospheric phenomena whose appearances cannot be forecast years in advance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 318980

THERE ARE NO PLANETS WHEN WILL YOU WAKE UP, NO-ONE HAS EVER SEEN A PLANET.

The first discovered was Uranus, imagine in the 1700's with a primitive device it was a joke that's why we kept on building bigger and bigger telescopes trying to find that planet and then just head-faked one another in saying "I discovered Neptune." and someone else discovered something else. No-body has ever seen a planet LOL, boy did we get sucker in "your anus!"
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If geocentrism was acceptable to Albert, it should be for us too!
[link to www.geocentrism.com]

"The struggle, so violent in the early days of science, between the views of Ptolemy and Copernicus would then be quite meaningless. Either CS could be used with equal justification. The two sentences, 'the sun is at rest and the earth moves,' or 'the sun moves and the earth is at rest,' would simply mean two different conventions concerning two different CS."
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Professor Lincoln Barnett, Einstein's chief disciple wrote: "We cannot feel our motion through space. Nor has any experiment ever proved that the Earth is in motion, (witness the zero-velocity result of the Michelson Morley experiment)".


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 478938


That was before space travel. The motions of the solar system have to be taken into account by all interplanetary crafts. That we can thread a spacecraft between the rings and surface of Saturn at this distance demonstrates how well the motions are known and can be calculated.





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