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Judge: Denver CAN Restrict PROTESTS.... BYE BYE FREE SPEECH!!! Hello 4th REICH!

 
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Maybe China will let The Them borrow one of their mobile execution vans. That will speed things up in the courts.
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Hey you know what, i have seen a fleet of brand new big huge box trucks around the Denver city police shops that have a bunch of lights around the top and video cameras mounted by the lights, the cameras have the look like some old mid 80's outdoor security cameras. The trucks i have seen are white or red . I am going to try to get some pics soon.
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Their biggest fear is that the protest would be/are nonviolent.
Protesters are guilty before the fact. Where is the evidence that says all protest are violent?
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Send this judge to prison for treason. What a criminal piece of trash.

This ruling is unconstitutional and should be ignored.

Fuck the NNO criminals.
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i applaud the judge's decision... with douchebags like rush limbaugh inciting people to terrorism, this is totally necessary.
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i applaud the judge's decision... with douchebags like rush limbaugh inciting people to terrorism, this is totally necessary.
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This crap has been going on for years, or have you ever noticed when union workers strike they are only allowed like 4-6 ppl to stand out side the place where they strike all in the name of safety. Its nothing new only gonna get worse.
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My 2 cents worth.

Another NWO judge who should be removed the job, jailed herself, debarred from practicing law because she fails the most basic understanding of upholding the US Constitution.

She admits that they (protesters) would suffer some infringement on their freedom of expression but said those interests had to be balanced with security concerns.
bottom line is there should be NO INFRINGEMENT!!!
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Just a good American who wants to attend the Republican Convention without having to punch a liberal.
 Quoting: Guns n' God

But don't you see that is YOUR choice if you decide to go "punch a liberal" - I mean, your sentence sounds like you think that if the government doesn't step in to protect your ears from hearing what someone else has to say, that means you *have* to punch someone.

Newsflash - you don't have to PUNCH anyone! Do you not have any self control?

Are you that weak and easily manipulated that you must resort to violence to protect your ears?

Good lord - with a nick like 'Guns and God' I would think you would be one of the first to stand up and say "Give me liberty or give me death".

Defending all that is America includes defending opposing viewpoints - men do not respect laws and government they can't criticize.
I will accept any rules that you feel necessary to your freedom. I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do. ~ Robert Heinlein
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Re: Judge: Denver CAN Restrict PROTESTS.... BYE BYE FREE SPEECH!!! Hello 4th REICH!
And WHO is infringing on your rights?

THE DEMOCRATS... the LIBERALS...

And you morons thought it was all Bush, didn't you?

Who WROTE the Patriot Act? When was it first proposed... Figure out who the REAL oppressors of your liberties are...

The liberals would have you in death camps so fast it would make your fucking head spin... Who put japanese americans in concentration camps? A LIBERAL.
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I think the attitudes of Uncle Pig in both Denver and Mlps show that there isn't a dime's worth of difference between the left-wing neofascists and the right-wing neofascists.

You people argue "liberals" versue "conservatives" as though it actually makes a difference, but you're all supporting one gang of statist pigs or another.
Where's the EVIDENCE, Jim?
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I think the attitudes of Uncle Pig in both Denver and Mlps show that there isn't a dime's worth of difference between the left-wing neofascists and the right-wing neofascists.

You people argue "liberals" versue "conservatives" as though it actually makes a difference, but you're all supporting one gang of statist pigs or another.
 Quoting: Duncan Kunz


>>Both encroaching measures were enacted by liberal politicians.
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I have heard that the local police forces are gearing up for major 'civil unrest'.


For the undercover police dressed as anarchists. It's not looking good.
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lol now, you are getting it
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I have heard that the local police forces are gearing up for major 'civil unrest'.
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I live in Denver. The media and politicians have been pumping the civil unrest message for months, creating possible and unnecessary fretting among people; you know, people repeat and believe whatever the media reads. By toying with the permit process they just irritate. By some overheard comments, some of the police may be looking for heads to break; others are more reasonable. By making it impossible, so far, for potentially large numbers of people (protesters) to camp out in the parks, they ensure groups of very tired, grumpy people who could be tipped over the edge (yes, it would be an exception to allow camping out, but then...this is an extraordinary circumstance). I think someone is working very hard to create a self-fulfilling prophecy.

I am not involved with the protests and intend to stay as far away as possible from convention activities. They are going to close down busy streets and a stretch of I-25 during active and rush hour traffic. Parts of LoDo will not be normally accessible. Some businesses, it is said on the media, may close for the duration because of the circumstances. They are going to make a mess.

As far as I am concerned, neither candidate is appropriate for presidential office. McCain's drift is easy to see. "Dreams of My Father" tells you what you need to know about Obama; and if you think he's a dear after reading, then you sat on the book and read with your nether-hole instead of your eyes.

In Denver, it might be something of nothing. There's a lot of energy pumping something. The question would be "Why"?
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FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND ASSEMBLY WAS NEVER A LISCENSE FOR FREEDON OF VIOLENT ASSEMBLY AND VIOLENT SPEECH LEADING TO ANARCHY IN STREETS .AND OR IN COMMERCIAL ZONES OF BUSSINESSES ....................RESTRICT THESE PEST PLEASE.
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time to turn this around, NOBODY needs the 'DEMON-PARTY'; time to block the take over of the SOCIALISTS in DC!
wake up, this is a call to arms and speech!
WHY WOULD ANYONE vote this WACKOS into OFFICE??


Besides TPTB only understand how to further ENSLAVE THE STUPID AMERICANS!

Protesters at the Democratic National Convention in Denver can be restricted to fenced-in areas, federal judge ruled on Wednesday, saying that security needs outweighed curbs on their rights.

A dozen groups who intend to protest at the August convention sued the U.S. Secret Service and the city of Denver over plans to confine their activities to a parade route and fenced-in zone, saying that their Constitutional rights to free speech were being violated.

The American Civil Liberties Union, the American Friends Service Committee and others argued that the rules would keep them too far away from delegates to get their message across during the convention, which is scheduled for Aug 25-28 at the city's downtown Pepsi Center.

U.S. District Judge Marcia Krieger agreed that the protesters would suffer some infringement on their freedom of expression but said those interests had to be balanced with security concerns.

"The restrictions inhibit the plaintiffs' ability to engage in some forms of expressive conduct, (but) ... the plaintiffs have a wide variety of alternative means of expression that will allow them to effectively communicate their messages," Krieger wrote in her 71-page ruling.

(Editing by Jackie Frank)

 Quoting: pimpinTURTLE 478437
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Why is everyone so upset ? What did you expect they are running a dictatorship it aint supposed to be rainbows, lollipops, fuzzy bunnies ect. Hey they have a reputation to uphold and boss people around controlling and manipulating however they can by all technological means available.So you people should understand this by now , how many years since 911 has it been and you all are still groaning about free speech? . I have free speech I say what ever I want when I want , no one ever has restricted me , yes I may have people look at me funny and yell at me and threaten me with some sort of lawsuit or physical violence as they are playing the victim card because of something I said that they found upsetting , I dont go out of my way to piss people off though, I have found that it is not what i say but how people react according to how they have their belief system set up , I dont have a belief system I take everything from an observational stand point without all the judgemant involved and leave out 90% of the emotion also.Free speech is something everyone has and should not be forced on anyone or restricted either. Like a radio or t.v. channel if you dont like what someone is saying then turn it off, as far as the perverts in charge they will always yank your chain because they are feeding off the energy of your anger and resistence to what they say or claim you can and cannot say, they get their jollies from that stuff and then target those who resist the most, just for fun it is the energy of it to them it is like a drug highly addictive also at least for them so they cannot break away from the cycle of feeding off of the negative energy of manipulation and control. I hope most will understand this.
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I think the attitudes of Uncle Pig in both Denver and Mlps show that there isn't a dime's worth of difference between the left-wing neofascists and the right-wing neofascists.

You people argue "liberals" versue "conservatives" as though it actually makes a difference, but you're all supporting one gang of statist pigs or another.


>>Both encroaching measures were enacted by liberal politicians.
 Quoting: Sinanju 477932

You miss the point entirely.

All politicians in America -- going back to the first real fascist/imperialist dictator in US History, Abraham Lincoln -- have done their best to keep the peoples' rights in abeyance whenever those rights threaten their power.

Certainly FDR, who was the president responsible for XO 9066 in 1942, and Earl Warren, who did so much to implement it as attorney general and then governor of California, and the entire Set of Supremes who upheld Korematsu v United States [323 U.S. 214 (1944)], were not "liberal" in today's sense, any more than Bush and Darth Cheney are "conservative" in the classical sense of people like Barry Goldwater and William Howard Taft.

Bush and the neo-cons are no better than those sleazy liberals like Pelosi, Schumer, and Obama. Both the "conservatives" and the "liberals" say they are for your freedoms ...

... and they both lie.

Both of those sets of thugs are just the two different sides of the same corporate fascist, welfare-warfare statist coin.

Yet you and the "liberals" argue about your differences as though it actually matters!
Where's the EVIDENCE, Jim?
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Wow...

No offense America, but you certainly the lion that whined like a kitten.

What a bunch of pussies, kind of looks good on you in a way, because you always talk such a big game...lol

In reality you're no better then a communist Russia, or a China.

Hell, even China had a Tiananmen Square...you guys are to whipped to even have that!

lmao



Hey AC, go forth and fornicate thyself with a large, blunt object without benefit of adequate lubrication!

lmao
 Quoting: milehighmike


Wow, what a lame response,

and more than a bit of Projection.

lmao
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Protesters at the Democratic National Convention in Denver can be restricted to fenced-in areas, federal judge ruled on Wednesday, saying that security needs outweighed curbs on their rights.

A dozen groups who intend to protest at the August convention sued the U.S. Secret Service and the city of Denver over plans to confine their activities to a parade route and fenced-in zone, saying that their Constitutional rights to free speech were being violated.

The American Civil Liberties Union, the American Friends Service Committee and others argued that the rules would keep them too far away from delegates to get their message across during the convention, which is scheduled for Aug 25-28 at the city's downtown Pepsi Center.

U.S. District Judge Marcia Krieger agreed that the protesters would suffer some infringement on their freedom of expression but said those interests had to be balanced with security concerns.

"The restrictions inhibit the plaintiffs' ability to engage in some forms of expressive conduct, (but) ... the plaintiffs have a wide variety of alternative means of expression that will allow them to effectively communicate their messages," Krieger wrote in her 71-page ruling.

(Editing by Jackie Frank)

 Quoting: pimpinTURTLE 478437



THOSE WHO TRADE FREEDOM FOR SECURITY ARE NEITHER FREE NOR SECURE - Ben Franklin
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McCarthyism made it crystal clear: Laissez faire capitalism is democracy.
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"You miss the point entirely."

>>No, I should have simply expressed myself better!

"All politicians in America -- going back to the first real fascist/imperialist dictator in US History, Abraham Lincoln -- have done their best to keep the peoples' rights in abeyance whenever those rights threaten their power."

>>Not all, both the Libertarians and the Constitution party hold individual rights in high regard. They would hold the tenth in as high regard as you and I.

"Certainly FDR, who was the president responsible for XO 9066 in 1942, and Earl Warren, who did so much to implement it as attorney general and then governor of California, and the entire Set of Supremes who upheld Korematsu v United States [323 U.S. 214 (1944)], were not "liberal" in today's sense, any more than Bush and Darth Cheney are "conservative" in the classical sense of people like Barry Goldwater and William Howard Taft."

>>Absolutely no argument from me!

"Bush and the neo-cons are no better than those sleazy liberals like Pelosi, Schumer, and Obama. Both the "conservatives" and the "liberals" say they are for your freedoms ...

... and they both lie."

>>See above answer.

"Both of those sets of thugs are just the two different sides of the same corporate fascist, welfare-warfare statist coin."

>>The major parties? Indubitably.

"Yet you and the "liberals" argue about your differences as though it actually matters!"

>>I don't follow the parties as much as the ideologies and do my best to argue with classically liberal viewpoints.
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Wow...

No offense America, but you certainly the lion that whined like a kitten.

What a bunch of pussies, kind of looks good on you in a way, because you always talk such a big game...lol

In reality you're no better then a communist Russia, or a China.

Hell, even China had a Tiananmen Square...you guys are to whipped to even have that!

lmao


ahem...

google: Battle in Seattle


then SHUT UP!
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I hear you, but has this been done afterwards? I don't recall any patriot movements like Seattle since then. Either a spirit got ahold of them or they had organization to do what they did. Brave citizens they were.
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Hey you know what, i have seen a fleet of brand new big huge box trucks around the Denver city police shops that have a bunch of lights around the top and video cameras mounted by the lights, the cameras have the look like some old mid 80's outdoor security cameras. The trucks i have seen are white or red . I am going to try to get some pics soon.
 Quoting: killdamon


Interesting, Killdamon. I saw one of those on Belleview Ave. in Littleton yesterday. Thought it was a giant ambulance, but it might have been a paddywagon instead.
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Both of those sets of thugs are just the two different sides of the same corporate fascist, welfare-warfare statist coin.
 Quoting: Duncan Kunz

holy crap, Duncan saying something true. The end has to be near. Or maybe there is hope for all of us.
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Obedience is now 9/11th's of that law .

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FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND ASSEMBLY WAS NEVER A LISCENSE FOR FREEDON OF VIOLENT ASSEMBLY AND VIOLENT SPEECH LEADING TO ANARCHY IN STREETS .AND OR IN COMMERCIAL ZONES OF BUSSINESSES ....................RESTRICT THESE PEST PLEASE.
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there should be PEACE in the Zombie Shopping Centers, everybody just only consuming, shopping and should shut the fuck up, never thinking critically ...politically

Do not destroy SUV`s and Hummers
But they are destroying Mother Earth Gaia

Die like a Shopping Consumer Zombie
a Gravestone with only a number 666

They do not allow you to live
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I think I'm gonna go camping the weekend of the DNC.. I don't want to be anywhere near all these people that are going to be here. Boulder will probably be crowded too.
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.
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I have heard that the local police forces are gearing up for major 'civil unrest'.


I live in Denver. The media and politicians have been pumping the civil unrest message for months, creating possible and unnecessary fretting among people; you know, people repeat and believe whatever the media reads. By toying with the permit process they just irritate. By some overheard comments, some of the police may be looking for heads to break; others are more reasonable. By making it impossible, so far, for potentially large numbers of people (protesters) to camp out in the parks, they ensure groups of very tired, grumpy people who could be tipped over the edge (yes, it would be an exception to allow camping out, but then...this is an extraordinary circumstance). I think someone is working very hard to create a self-fulfilling prophecy.

I am not involved with the protests and intend to stay as far away as possible from convention activities. They are going to close down busy streets and a stretch of I-25 during active and rush hour traffic. Parts of LoDo will not be normally accessible. Some businesses, it is said on the media, may close for the duration because of the circumstances. They are going to make a mess.

As far as I am concerned, neither candidate is appropriate for presidential office. McCain's drift is easy to see. "Dreams of My Father" tells you what you need to know about Obama; and if you think he's a dear after reading, then you sat on the book and read with your nether-hole instead of your eyes.

In Denver, it might be something of nothing. There's a lot of energy pumping something. The question would be "Why"?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 125715

bump for a good observation on Denver's current 'climate'
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keep thier radical ass behind fences so other people do not have to be inconvienced ...sick of protestors.........................

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