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Do I need to become a pop-culture moron to attract a mate???

 
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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Thanks for the well-intended help, but for crying out loud... I'm NOT stupid! Yeeessshhhh!! Talk about dating 101... LOL...

I was a major-market radio talk show host and DJ for 10 years of my life, and during that time, was the ONLY period in my life where I had women interested in me. But obviously it was only because of the prestige, local celebrity status, and special treatment I received during that period. They were interested in WHAT I was, and not WHO I was. Most of the women I ended up with back then were NOT good for me anyway.

But now I live a quiet life in a much smaller city. I don't project the radio persona like I used to, because quite frankly, it is not really me. The PHONY persona used to get the women, but I am not into that anymore, nor would I want a woman who is.

My problem is THIS:

I am a very LOGICAL person. I love logic and reason. I love truth, and I love peace and harmony. Women seem to love drama, controversy, and gossip, but they sure as hell do NOT love logic or reason. As soon as they find out that I am intelligent, extremely rational, and practical, they won't give me the time of day. Since I refuse to kiss ass, and sugarcoat everything, they don't want anything to do with me. Women love to be jive-talked, and lied to, even though they adamantly deny it. They don't want the truth!

Women TELL you that they want the sensitive guy, but then they go for the rude and crude asshole. They TELL you that they want honesty, but then they go for the LYING, cheating, braggarts and players. That is just one small part of why I NEVER go by what a woman says, but by what she DOES... every time.

I'm not trying to be inflammatory here, but women are truly the most illogical creatures walking this earth. I LOVE logic and reason, and yet I've had women (many!) flat-out tell me that they hate logic.

And that is why I will be alone until I die, and the world will continue to be over-populated with the offspring of liars, cheaters, criminals, and other assorted pop-culture dupes of the NWO, ect...


well good luck to you then.
 Quoting: Insomnia



Quote:

"well good luck to you then."



Thanks.

Sorry, it's just that I kinda felt as if you were taking me for a complete imbecile.
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08/07/2008 06:14 AM
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It seems that you're not a very likable person.

You need to work on that.
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Agreed. I don't like him and I'm a guy. I can see why the women bail when he drones on and on about all his superior attributes. He is trying to pass himself off as a sensitive type whilst saying he worships at the altar of logic and refuses to candycoat anything for the sake of a woman's feelings. He doesn't want a woman, he wants an android.
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It seems that you're not a very likable person.

You need to work on that.



Agreed. I don't like him and I'm a guy. I can see why the women bail when he drones on and on about all his superior attributes. He is trying to pass himself off as a sensitive type whilst saying he worships at the altar of logic and refuses to candycoat anything for the sake of a woman's feelings. He doesn't want a woman, he wants an android.
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lol
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It seems that you're not a very likable person.

You need to work on that.



Agreed. I don't like him and I'm a guy. I can see why the women bail when he drones on and on about all his superior attributes. He is trying to pass himself off as a sensitive type whilst saying he worships at the altar of logic and refuses to candycoat anything for the sake of a woman's feelings. He doesn't want a woman, he wants an android.
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i like your type. i bet you get alot of nice girls :)

smart & funny and real. OP you should take a lesson from this person.
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08/07/2008 06:24 AM
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480158, FFS, Okay, we caught that you don't like females and you want the world to know it. WE GET IT! You've repeated yourself enough.




Actually, ole 158 does have a good point! LOL...
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No he doesn't, but the fact that you think he does reveals to everyone else exactly why women don't like you. You don't like women and they sense it. You're Kryptonite to them.
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08/07/2008 06:25 AM
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Yes.
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It seems that you're not a very likable person.

You need to work on that.
 Quoting: Guns n' God



Do you see what I mean? People hate truth. It always rubs them the wrong way.

What part of anything I said, wasn't "likable"?

Anyway, I'm not here to impress anyone with my "likability". I'm here to try and understand why so many dead-from-the-neck-up women, are so enamored by punks and redundant culture clones.

Face it... ANY idiot can be a "bad boy".






P.S. To Insomnia:

I'm not "defensive", and I'm not insinuating that everything is always everybody elses fault, as you put it. But I certainly DO believe that an affinity for the kinds of guys I see SOOOO many women with, is NOT a virtue! I consider it a total lack of common sense and reason, not to mention a serious lack of character on their part.

Maybe you missed the entire point of my thread.

I used to get women calling my show, telling me horror stories about what the last boyfriend did to them, and how he wrecked their lives... yada yada yada... And when I would point out that they KNEW what this guy was like when they met him, they would always give me the SAME response...

"I thought I could change him"

This is why I have NO sympathy for women who get hurt by guys like this. How much intelligence does it take, to look for the kind of guy you (supposedly) want in THE FIRST PLACE, instead of one who needs to be changed??
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480158, FFS, Okay, we caught that you don't like females and you want the world to know it. WE GET IT! You've repeated yourself enough.




Actually, ole 158 does have a good point! LOL...



No he doesn't, but the fact that you think he does reveals to everyone else exactly why women don't like you. You don't like women and they sense it. You're Kryptonite to them.
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Oh hogwash...

Not getting myself into a situation where I am paying someone off for the rest of my life, while they are simultaneously screwing another guy and spending my money, is COMMON SENSE.

Leave it to a ridiculous feminazi to tell me otherwise...

LOL.

Bug off.
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08/07/2008 06:36 AM
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OP, first off you are getting some good advice here, many women are more than likely intimidated. But the biggest secrect ever is this............ Be a low talker. When you talk to women speak very softly, so softly they must lean in to hear you. It works, if you are a sincere decent person. I have some friends who are not the best looking guys that are soft talkers, and they can't keep the women away. So, there you go. Try it. With your confidence that you have, you probably speak with commanding self confidence in your voice. Low talker, brings the right kind of women around and it works.
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08/07/2008 06:38 AM
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Although there are women out there who match your description, there are many who do not. Yet, because you hold such a low opinion of women in general, you will continue to see only what you believe to be there - shallow, unintelligent women. The phenomena is simply a self-fulfilling prophecy.

In fact, you stated in your original post, "I'm not selling out my principles, just to impress an idiot." Keep thinking of women as idiots and I guarantee you will continue to meet "idiot" women.
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OP, first off you are getting some good advice here, many women are more than likely intimidated. But the biggest secrect ever is this............ Be a low talker. When you talk to women speak very softly, so softly they must lean in to hear you. It works, if you are a sincere decent person. I have some friends who are not the best looking guys that are soft talkers, and they can't keep the women away. So, there you go. Try it. With your confidence that you have, you probably speak with commanding self confidence in your voice. Low talker, brings the right kind of women around and it works.
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LOL, if you did that to me, I'd exit rapidly.
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It seems that you're not a very likable person.

You need to work on that.



Agreed. I don't like him and I'm a guy. I can see why the women bail when he drones on and on about all his superior attributes. He is trying to pass himself off as a sensitive type whilst saying he worships at the altar of logic and refuses to candycoat anything for the sake of a woman's feelings. He doesn't want a woman, he wants an android.
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You're right. I should have lied about my "attributes", and told you I was some deformed little 120 pound schmuck, with no brains, or abilities. But then, the entire thread wouldn't have made sense.

What woman WOULD want that?

But, since I gave you as accurate a description as possible, you didn't like that. I guess you are like the women. You love to be lied to. You'd rather be told what makes you "feel" better, rather than being given any kind of picture that resembles reality.

Women always want you to "feel" with them, instead of fixing the problem. I have no use for being dragged through all the useless emotions, and fantasyland. In fact, the way I see it, only a real pansy would.

A real man fixes problems. Not just whine and cry about them.
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Boring! Are you?
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It seems that you're not a very likable person.

You need to work on that.



Agreed. I don't like him and I'm a guy. I can see why the women bail when he drones on and on about all his superior attributes. He is trying to pass himself off as a sensitive type whilst saying he worships at the altar of logic and refuses to candycoat anything for the sake of a woman's feelings. He doesn't want a woman, he wants an android.



i like your type. i bet you get alot of nice girls :)

smart & funny and real. OP you should take a lesson from this person.
 Quoting: Insomnia



The guy is a femme...

No thanks.
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Kalamity, I have never done that, I am telling you, the soft talkers do very well with the ladys. Granted this is truly their personality, but it works for them. Us married guys joke about our soft talking friends, been wathing this for years now. I don't know what to tell you.
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OP, first off you are getting some good advice here, many women are more than likely intimidated. But the biggest secrect ever is this............ Be a low talker. When you talk to women speak very softly, so softly they must lean in to hear you. It works, if you are a sincere decent person. I have some friends who are not the best looking guys that are soft talkers, and they can't keep the women away. So, there you go. Try it. With your confidence that you have, you probably speak with commanding self confidence in your voice. Low talker, brings the right kind of women around and it works.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 480305




Well, you sound like a nice polite person yourself. But I have to TOTALLY disagree with you. Like I said in my initial post, the nicest guys I know, are also the loneliest, by far.

The brash, arrogant, loudmouthed "bad boys" are who get the women. What you say SOUNDS nice, but I have to go by what I see, day after day, after day...

Hence my original post.
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First the OP says....

Do you see what I mean? People hate truth. It always rubs them the wrong way.

What part of anything I said, wasn't "likable"?

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 476201


And in the same statement he follows it up with...

Anyway, I'm not here to impress anyone with my "likability". I'm here to try and understand why so many dead-from-the-neck-up women, are so enamored by punks and redundant culture clones. Face it... ANY idiot can be a "bad boy"./quote]


Yet he doesn't see what about his words makes him unlikeable?. lol What an obliviot!
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Yeah so women aren't logical. Who cares? That's why I enjoy their company. It sucks to be logical all the time.
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Although there are women out there who match your description, there are many who do not. Yet, because you hold such a low opinion of women in general, you will continue to see only what you believe to be there - shallow, unintelligent women. The phenomena is simply a self-fulfilling prophecy.

In fact, you stated in your original post, "I'm not selling out my principles, just to impress an idiot." Keep thinking of women as idiots and I guarantee you will continue to meet "idiot" women.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 479220




Can't help it. They're EVERYWHERE. I call 'em like I see 'em.

Of COURSE there are exceptions. In fact, the exceptions are what I am looking for. It's too bad they are grossly outnumbered by the rule.
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First the OP says....



Do you see what I mean? People hate truth. It always rubs them the wrong way.

What part of anything I said, wasn't "likable"?



And in the same statement he follows it up with...

Anyway, I'm not here to impress anyone with my "likability". I'm here to try and understand why so many dead-from-the-neck-up women, are so enamored by punks and redundant culture clones. Face it... ANY idiot can be a "bad boy"./quote]


Yet he doesn't see what about his words makes him unlikeable?. lol What an obliviot!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 479157





What part is true?

Does being "likable" include bending reality, for you?

wtf


Not interested.
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Type-o correction^^^

What part ISN'T true?

Eh?
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Yeah so women aren't logical. Who cares? That's why I enjoy their company. It sucks to be logical all the time.
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great advice!...... and OP a lil class in manners might help. Didn't your mother ever teach you if you don't have something nice to say...........
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I like threads like these, I have hope yet for the male gender.

If you are looking for answers inside a woman's mind, forget it. Don't fuckin' bother.

If you're looking with ways to make yourself complete, full, happy, and have everything you need in your life? Then perhaps, you can get some valuable information.

It starts first with yourself...internal to external.

You must say to yourself, and believe it with all your heart I might add, that you are a great person. This is a crucial part, and perhaps the most difficult for most men. To love themselves fully and completely, and to really admit that they are a good person.

Women can read a man so quickly, men of low quality wouldn't even have time to utter a word before they are uninterested.

Body language, approach, eye contact, tone of voice, appearance, all of these factor in before you even speak a fucking word. They'll sum all this up in a matter of seconds, literally, and it's simply natural for them to do this. No thought is necessary, pure instinct.

Your observations are correct, but I'll tell you this...

Sweet, nice, etc, is nearly boring. Women of substance want to be intrigued, they want depth.

Mystery=Intrigue=Interest.

Remember that formula.

Does that mean act like an asshole? No, that means this:

I'm a man of goals, ideas, and I'm taking charge of my life. No one is slowing me down. I don't give a fuck if you think I'm cute or not. What matters is that I know what I want in life, how I'm getting it, and why I want it.

Does this help?
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OP, here's the good thing. The right person will come along. I know one other thing I'll share that you probably know. If you have a girlfriend, all the women want you. If you don't, women sense it and don't want a thing to do with you. It is the feast or famine phenom. Don't know why, but I know this from first hand experience. Don't worry about it, don't be bitter, just be happy with yourself and the cards will fall in place when the time is right. Good luck, you seem like a decent person. Don't worry about the trolls here that love to give people shit. Peace.
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It seems that you're not a very likable person.

You need to work on that.



Do you see what I mean? People hate truth. It always rubs them the wrong way.

What part of anything I said, wasn't "likable"?

Anyway, I'm not here to impress anyone with my "likability". I'm here to try and understand why so many dead-from-the-neck-up women, are so enamored by punks and redundant culture clones.

Face it... ANY idiot can be a "bad boy".






P.S. To Insomnia:

I'm not "defensive", and I'm not insinuating that everything is always everybody elses fault, as you put it. But I certainly DO believe that an affinity for the kinds of guys I see SOOOO many women with, is NOT a virtue! I consider it a total lack of common sense and reason, not to mention a serious lack of character on their part.

Maybe you missed the entire point of my thread.

I used to get women calling my show, telling me horror stories about what the last boyfriend did to them, and how he wrecked their lives... yada yada yada... And when I would point out that they KNEW what this guy was like when they met him, they would always give me the SAME response...

"I thought I could change him"

This is why I have NO sympathy for women who get hurt by guys like this. How much intelligence does it take, to look for the kind of guy you (supposedly) want in THE FIRST PLACE, instead of one who needs to be changed??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 476201

I agree with you that women don't make any logical sense.

Do you ever read the romance novels they read or watch chick flicks that all the women watch these days? They're always about some broad turning a party animal or badass guy into a domesticated, respectable suburban husband.

A lot of women want to live out this fantasy in reality which shows their maturity level.

A previous poster gave some good advice, try to date Christian singles you meet at a church group or something. They're decent, grounded people and you'd be surprised how many of them are really hot.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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Well, I'm off to work.

What I said still stands, and it is just as true as ever, despite what some of the clowns here who live in fantasyland have to say.

Women just love bad boys, and only someone with an I.Q. below room temperature doesn't have the ability to perceive that glaringly apparent reality. Most of them deny it, but then again, women almost never tell you what they MEAN. You've got to go by what they DO.

If you don't think so, then you don't think. Get out of the house, look around.



Have a day.
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I like threads like these, I have hope yet for the male gender.

If you are looking for answers inside a woman's mind, forget it. Don't fuckin' bother.

If you're looking with ways to make yourself complete, full, happy, and have everything you need in your life? Then perhaps, you can get some valuable information.

It starts first with yourself...internal to external.

You must say to yourself, and believe it with all your heart I might add, that you are a great person. This is a crucial part, and perhaps the most difficult for most men. To love themselves fully and completely, and to really admit that they are a good person.

Women can read a man so quickly, men of low quality wouldn't even have time to utter a word before they are uninterested.

Body language, approach, eye contact, tone of voice, appearance, all of these factor in before you even speak a fucking word. They'll sum all this up in a matter of seconds, literally, and it's simply natural for them to do this. No thought is necessary, pure instinct.

Your observations are correct, but I'll tell you this...

Sweet, nice, etc, is nearly boring. Women of substance want to be intrigued, they want depth.

Mystery=Intrigue=Interest.

Remember that formula.

Does that mean act like an asshole? No, that means this:

I'm a man of goals, ideas, and I'm taking charge of my life. No one is slowing me down. I don't give a fuck if you think I'm cute or not. What matters is that I know what I want in life, how I'm getting it, and why I want it.

Does this help?
 Quoting: Mr. Indicator


this is GREAT advice.....you should listen.....
"We don't inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children"--Native-American proverb

People were created to be loved while things were created to be used. The reason the world is in chaos is that, things are being loved and people are being used

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[link to i25.photobucket.com]
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the trick to getting chicks is

Cocky and Funny

Google David DeAngelo if you need some tips
Beware this shit works. Got me laid many times over.
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What part of anything I said, wasn't "likable"?
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This statement says a thousands words...

And not in a good way.
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OP, here's the good thing. The right person will come along. I know one other thing I'll share that you probably know. If you have a girlfriend, all the women want you. If you don't, women sense it and don't want a thing to do with you. It is the feast or famine phenom. Don't know why, but I know this from first hand experience. Don't worry about it, don't be bitter, just be happy with yourself and the cards will fall in place when the time is right. Good luck, you seem like a decent person. Don't worry about the trolls here that love to give people shit. Peace.
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Hey, thanks...

I gave up on the right one coming along, but thanks for the sentiment. Peace to you too, my friend.

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