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markusmaximus

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No, I've been a Christian all of my life. I was raised in a Christian family. I'm not a child; I happen to be a very wise 55-year-old. You haters are really out of control.

You may be old but you aren't wise. You're being taken by a sleazy tele-evangelist. Like a child, you ignore the posts that you cannot explain. You say that maybe God gave the Osteen's money for their good works. The bible repeatedly says that good works are hollow and mean nothing. It does not promise or suggest earthly riches, only heavenly.
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In fact, 284011, the Bible says to store up treasures in heaven, not earthy treasures.

People like the Osteens, and there are lots of them, understand that above all else, TITHING is what's important to a church.

Tithing, or giving a TENTH of your entire income to the church, is what makes the wheels go round. We're not talking keeping the lights turned on in the church building itself.

We're talking about massive amounts of money, particularly from a church with 25,000+ members who happily "make that gift."

"Make that gift." Fucking unbelievable. As if MONEY makes God happy.

And giving that money to a slick-talking Southern Baptist used-car-salesman pastor who is more concerned about his book deals and bigging larger CHURCH CORPORATIONS than the "salvation" of his own "flock" certainly doesn't please God.
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People seem to forget mainly AG that if the majority of us had acted that way we would have been tased or worse.

No they're allowed to act as they wish because they have money. I think I would be interested to know what he would say if god asked him to sell give it all up.
"You've felt it your entire life, that there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad.

“The war we fight today is more than a military conflict,” Mr Bush said. “It is the decisive ideological struggle of the 21st century.”


You are a slave..., like everyone else you were born into bondage. Into a prison that you cannot taste or see or touch. A prison for your mind."
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As long as people remember that it's not Joel Osteen they are supposed to be worshipping when they listen to him, they will be okay. If he wants to spread his message and his interpretations of the Bible, he can. The Truth doesn't change just because people spin it.
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People seem to forget mainly AG that if the majority of us had acted that way we would have been tased or worse.

No they're allowed to act as they wish because they have money. I think I would be interested to know what he would say if god asked him to sell give it all up.
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Yeah, thanks for getting us back on track. The point of the whole thing is that this crazy bitch undisputedly acted like a child and was a horrible testimony.
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Osteen sheeple-come and support your caretakers. they can't do it themselves because they lost the keys to the Mercedes.








Her and her husband are scumbags that profit from "God's Work."

Remember when Jesus threw the merchants out of the temple?

Good.

Insert that moral lesson here.


Joel Osteen is an excellent speaker and since when is it wrong for people to make a living by running a church? I watch Joel Osteen every Sunday morning on television and find him to be inspiring every single time I listen to one of his sermons. He's an excellent speaker and a Man of God. I think it is great he reaches out to so many people.


 [link to www.joelosteen.com] 




Profiting from religion is disgusting.


Everyone has a right to make a living. I think you are just a jealous person markusmaximus. Even your avatar gives me the creeps. Pastor Osteen is an inspired Man of God and a great speaker. He has helped me through more difficult times in my life than I can list. He really sees people and he knows how to communicate his inspiring messages.

Markusmaximus, and OP, I can't believe that people stoop so low as to try and trash one of the great leaders of our time.

:joelo: Pastor Joel Osteen, Lakewood Church, Houston, TX

[link to www.joelosteen.com]
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You hit the nail on the cross.
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You hit the nail on the cross. The Osteen's are millionaires and they will NOT let anybody interfere with their greasy, grubby, dirty money laundering scheme.


No, I've been a Christian all of my life. I was raised in a Christian family. I'm not a child; I happen to be a very wise 55-year-old. You haters are really out of control.

You may be old but you aren't wise. You're being taken by a sleazy tele-evangelist. Like a child, you ignore the posts that you cannot explain. You say that maybe God gave the Osteen's money for their good works. The bible repeatedly says that good works are hollow and mean nothing. It does not promise or suggest earthly riches, only heavenly.


In fact, 284011, the Bible says to store up treasures in heaven, not earthy treasures.

People like the Osteens, and there are lots of them, understand that above all else, TITHING is what's important to a church.

Tithing, or giving a TENTH of your entire income to the church, is what makes the wheels go round. We're not talking keeping the lights turned on in the church building itself.

We're talking about massive amounts of money, particularly from a church with 25,000+ members who happily "make that gift."

"Make that gift." Fucking unbelievable. As if MONEY makes God happy.

And giving that money to a slick-talking Southern Baptist used-car-salesman pastor who is more concerned about his book deals and bigging larger CHURCH CORPORATIONS than the "salvation" of his own "flock" certainly doesn't please God.
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If people would take to heart what they read in the Bible, it would be better.

Remember who ran the big churches in Jesus' time? The Jews! And what did Jesus tell them?

How many people follow Jesus? At the time of His death, there were 153 followers.

Take a lesson from that. If a church has a large congregation, most likely it is preaching things that 'tickle the ears'.

Few people really want to follow what Jesus taught in Matt 5, 6, and 7.

Did Victoria Osteen follow Jesus' message in that air craft?
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Yep, you shall know them by their fruits.

No good fruit here.

Especially when someone wears hot pink...hmmmmm

Lots of deception going on here in these days.

The Lord never emphasized being materially rich...
that's just plain shallow.

When hurricane Katrina happened, someone from a christian
website I visit called up this ministry in Texas to ask
them if they had made arrangements for refugees to come stay
at their big stadium church. They were like, "huh?"
Don't know if they ever ended up helping....
When tshtf, these mega prosperity churches true colors
will really come out....it's built on shifting sand.
No substance whatsoever. Just shallow.
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This is simply hilarious! Joel Osteen and his wife preach what Jesus taught and other Christians are saying "no good fruit here". That has to be the craziest thing I ever heard.

Haven't you read your bible? Haven't you read what Jesus said? Your jealousy and envy does not become you.

Here's a refresher on what Jesus said:

Mark 11:24
Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye
receive them, and ye shall have them.


Matthew 7:7-8
Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto
you:
For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh
it shall be opened.

Joh 14:12
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he
do also; and greater works than these shall he do

Matthew 6:25-33

Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall
drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the
body than raiment?

Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns;
yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?

Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?

And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow;
they toil not, neither do they spin:

And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of
these.


It seems that Jesus had no problem with Solomon having riches.


Matthew 13:12
For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but
whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.

Jesus had no problem with people having abundance.


Mark 9:23
Jesus said unto him, If thou can believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.

John 10:10
I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

Take note of what Jesus said here:

Matthew 7:1 Don't judge others and you won't be judged either.
2. The way you judge others is the way you're going to be judged, and the way you treat
others is the way you're going to be treated.
3. And why do you look at the speck in someone else's eye, but you don't consider the log
that's in your own.
4.You want to try and correct the way someone else lives but you don't do anything about
the way you live.
5. You're a hypocrite.
John 8:15
You judge after the flesh; I judge no man.
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This is simply hilarious! Joel Osteen and his wife preach what Jesus taught and other Christians are saying "no good fruit here". That has to be the craziest thing I ever heard.
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Uh, the problem is that they DON'T practice what they preach. They don't live what the bible says. And they are leading people astray.
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08/08/2008 11:31 AM
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This is simply hilarious! Joel Osteen and his wife preach what Jesus taught and other Christians are saying "no good fruit here". That has to be the craziest thing I ever heard.

Haven't you read your bible? Haven't you read what Jesus said? Your jealousy and envy does not become you.

Here's a refresher on what Jesus said:

Mark 11:24
Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye
receive them, and ye shall have them.


Matthew 7:7-8
Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto
you:
For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh
it shall be opened.

Joh 14:12
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he
do also; and greater works than these shall he do

Matthew 6:25-33

Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall
drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the
body than raiment?

Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns;
yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?

Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?

And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow;
they toil not, neither do they spin:

And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of
these.


It seems that Jesus had no problem with Solomon having riches.


Matthew 13:12
For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but
whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.

Jesus had no problem with people having abundance.


Mark 9:23
Jesus said unto him, If thou can believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.

John 10:10
I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

Take note of what Jesus said here:

Matthew 7:1 Don't judge others and you won't be judged either.
2. The way you judge others is the way you're going to be judged, and the way you treat
others is the way you're going to be treated.
3. And why do you look at the speck in someone else's eye, but you don't consider the log
that's in your own.
4.You want to try and correct the way someone else lives but you don't do anything about
the way you live.
5. You're a hypocrite.
John 8:15
You judge after the flesh; I judge no man.
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You are failing and missing the point Osteen troll.
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08/08/2008 11:38 AM
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This is simply hilarious! Joel Osteen and his wife preach what Jesus taught and other Christians are saying "no good fruit here". That has to be the craziest thing I ever heard.

Haven't you read your bible? Haven't you read what Jesus said? Your jealousy and envy does not become you.

Here's a refresher on what Jesus said:

Mark 11:24
Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye
receive them, and ye shall have them.


Matthew 7:7-8
Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto
you:
For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh
it shall be opened.

Joh 14:12
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he
do also; and greater works than these shall he do

Matthew 6:25-33

Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall
drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the
body than raiment?

Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns;
yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?

Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?

And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow;
they toil not, neither do they spin:

And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of
these.


It seems that Jesus had no problem with Solomon having riches.


Matthew 13:12
For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but
whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.

Jesus had no problem with people having abundance.


Mark 9:23
Jesus said unto him, If thou can believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.

John 10:10
I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

Take note of what Jesus said here:

Matthew 7:1 Don't judge others and you won't be judged either.
2. The way you judge others is the way you're going to be judged, and the way you treat
others is the way you're going to be treated.
3. And why do you look at the speck in someone else's eye, but you don't consider the log
that's in your own.
4.You want to try and correct the way someone else lives but you don't do anything about
the way you live.
5. You're a hypocrite.
John 8:15
You judge after the flesh; I judge no man.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 480975



Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal, but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.” (Matthew 6:19-21)
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And, the same God provides for the needs of Pastors Joel and Victoria Osteen. Maybe God thinks they deserve more than you because of their good works.


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Well this said it all folks................they deserve more and if his wife loses this case she deserves less. END OF STORY.....
It doesn't matter who I m it's who U R so ChoOse
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This is simply hilarious! Joel Osteen and his wife preach what Jesus taught and other Christians are saying "no good fruit here". That has to be the craziest thing I ever heard.

Haven't you read your bible? Haven't you read what Jesus said? Your jealousy and envy does not become you.

Here's a refresher on what Jesus said:

Mark 11:24
Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye
receive them, and ye shall have them.


Matthew 7:7-8
Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto
you:
For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh
it shall be opened.

Joh 14:12
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he
do also; and greater works than these shall he do

Matthew 6:25-33

Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall
drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the
body than raiment?

Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns;
yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?

Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?

And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow;
they toil not, neither do they spin:

And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of
these.


It seems that Jesus had no problem with Solomon having riches.


Matthew 13:12
For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but
whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.

Jesus had no problem with people having abundance.


Mark 9:23
Jesus said unto him, If thou can believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.

John 10:10
I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

Take note of what Jesus said here:

Matthew 7:1 Don't judge others and you won't be judged either.
2. The way you judge others is the way you're going to be judged, and the way you treat
others is the way you're going to be treated.
3. And why do you look at the speck in someone else's eye, but you don't consider the log
that's in your own.
4.You want to try and correct the way someone else lives but you don't do anything about
the way you live.
5. You're a hypocrite.
John 8:15
You judge after the flesh; I judge no man.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 480975


Also, though you know how to clip verses, you have no discernment of meaning.

When Jesus speaks of abundance, he is speaking of spiritual matters, not material ones, which you would understand if you would read His entire discourse.
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You see Osteen just goes in the opposite direction, the way opposite direction, from the you are a sinner, repeant!!!, doom and gloom pastors. His approach tickles the ears more. More money to make using this feel good candy gospel approach.

So he is just on the opposite side of the spectrum from those other type of pastors. Jesus would respect and praise someone who takes his teachings and manipulates it. I would hope not.

The best approach for understanding the truth in my opinion is reading Christian apologistic books, The King James Bible of course, and even pastor Harold Camping speaks the most truth. Camping's Bible intelligence over Osteen's can't even be compared. Osteen probably hasn't even read the whole bible or he is reading some watered down fluffy one and not the King James version.
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You see Osteen just goes in the opposite direction, the way opposite direction, from the you are a sinner, repeant!!!, doom and gloom pastors. His approach tickles the ears more. More money to make using this feel good candy gospel approach.

So he is just on the opposite side of the spectrum from those other type of pastors. Jesus would respect and praise someone who takes his teachings and manipulates it. I would hope not.

The best approach for understanding the truth in my opinion is reading Christian apologistic books, The King James Bible of course, and even pastor Harold Camping speaks the most truth. Camping's Bible intelligence over Osteen's can't even be compared. Osteen probably hasn't even read the whole bible or he is reading some watered down fluffy one and not the King James version.
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Jesus wouldn't respect I meant.
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"Ye shall know them by their fruits"

What are the "fruits"?

Gifts of the Holy Spirit.

What are the gifts of the Holy Spirit?

According to biblical text:

1 Corinthians 12:1-14

* Wisdom
* Knowledge
* Discerning of spirits (human, angelic, and demonic)
* Prophecy
* Speaking in tongues
* Interpretation of tongues
* Faith
* Working of miracles
* Healing


1 Corinthians 12:27-30


* Apostleship
* Prophecy
* Teaching
* Working of miracles
* Healing
* Helps
* Administration
* Speaking in tongues


Romans 12:6-8

* Prophecy
* Ministry
* Teaching
* Exhortation
* Giving
* Leading
* Showing mercy (compassion)


Ephesians 4:11

* Apostleship
* Prophecy
* Evangelism
* Pastoring
* Teaching
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No, I've been a Christian all of my life. I was raised in a Christian family. I'm not a child; I happen to be a very wise 55-year-old. You haters are really out of control.

You may be old but you aren't wise. You're being taken by a sleazy tele-evangelist. Like a child, you ignore the posts that you cannot explain. You say that maybe God gave the Osteen's money for their good works. The bible repeatedly says that good works are hollow and mean nothing. It does not promise or suggest earthly riches, only heavenly.
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Proof that 12-year-olds have taken over this thread.
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Proof that 12-year-olds have taken over this thread.
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Proof that people would rather read Joel Osteen's book and abide by what he says than the bible.
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The problem with Osteen's supposed biblical message of abundance is that we live in a world where bad things can happen....fortunes can be won and lost overnight. This
message of abundance would never fly in a place like Dafur.
Many innocents are harmed and it is not their fault. This
is taking the message of the gospel and turning it into
worldliness. It is NOT from GOD. If you lose your "abundance" you can also lose your faith....it
is a very seductive, sly message that twists God's word.
I watched Joel Osteen on Larry King Live and when asked
about Jesus being the only way, he danced around the question. Many of the disciples lost their lives because
they would not deny Christ. When I saw that, I had my answer. You have to take a stand...and not placate everyone. You're either for Jesus Christ or against.
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The problem with Osteen's supposed biblical message of abundance is that we live in a world where bad things can happen....fortunes can be won and lost overnight. This
message of abundance would never fly in a place like Dafur.
Many innocents are harmed and it is not their fault. This
is taking the message of the gospel and turning it into
worldliness. It is NOT from GOD. If you lose your "abundance" you can also lose your faith....it
is a very seductive, sly message that twists God's word.
I watched Joel Osteen on Larry King Live and when asked
about Jesus being the only way, he danced around the question. Many of the disciples lost their lives because
they would not deny Christ. When I saw that, I had my answer. You have to take a stand...and not placate everyone. You're either for Jesus Christ or against.
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Amen. Lukewarm Christians will be spewed out of His mouth, as He has said.
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The problem with Osteen's supposed biblical message of abundance is that we live in a world where bad things can happen....fortunes can be won and lost overnight. This
message of abundance would never fly in a place like Dafur.
Many innocents are harmed and it is not their fault. This
is taking the message of the gospel and turning it into
worldliness. It is NOT from GOD. If you lose your "abundance" you can also lose your faith....it
is a very seductive, sly message that twists God's word.
I watched Joel Osteen on Larry King Live and when asked
about Jesus being the only way, he danced around the question. Many of the disciples lost their lives because
they would not deny Christ. When I saw that, I had my answer. You have to take a stand...and not placate everyone. You're either for Jesus Christ or against.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 380667


Also, when Jesus spoke of "abundance", He was speaking of spiritual abundance, not material. Life more abundantly means living with the peace that passes all understanding, whether you are materially abundant or not.
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Now would you lump in Deepak Chopra into the Osteen camp? I tend to like Chopra's point of view a lot more than Osteen's though.
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Those of us who are enlightened

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STOP THE PRESSES!!!

We HAVE an ENLIGHTENED BEING IN OUR MIDST!!!!


Uh huh, sure, ok, well --- maybe someone who BELIEVES they are enlightened.


Get over yourself AmericanGirl --- your ego is your GOD>
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The osteens ARE satan you dumbasses
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Those of us who are enlightened



STOP THE PRESSES!!!

We HAVE an ENLIGHTENED BEING IN OUR MIDST!!!!


Uh huh, sure, ok, well --- maybe someone who BELIEVES they are enlightened.


Get over yourself AmericanGirl --- your ego is your GOD>
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AmericanGirl is not only a fan of Osteen but also of Dennis Kucinich. Interesting combo there. lol
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they fly first class, that says enough. case closed, thread LOCKED! May GOD have mercy on their spirits
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Doesn't seem very Christ-like to me... 1dunno1

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ABC News: Osteen's Wife on Trial for Temper Tantrum

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"Osteen and her family were on Brown's flight from Houston to Vail, Colo., two years ago when, according to court documents, witnesses said Osteen became upset about a spill on the armrest of her first-class seat. She asked the flight attendants to clean up the spill and when they did not respond quickly enough, Osteen became confrontational, according to documents filed in the civil case that goes to trial today.

The lawsuit, filed in Harris County Civil Court in Houston, alleges that Victoria Osteen "shoved, grabbed and pulled the flight attendants." The suit goes on to claim that Osteen elbowed Brown, who was the flight manager, while allegedly trying to get into the cockpit of the airplane.

Brown's attorney, Reginald McKamie, contends that Osteen has a dark side that the trial will expose. His client, he said, was forced into civil court because Continental did not call police when the incident happened. Osteen and her family were asked to leave the flight; Osteen was later fined $3,000 by the Federal Aviation Administration for interfering with a flight crew member."

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just sayin' stoner
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surrender is not an option
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Peace with Justice

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Doesn't seem very Christ-like to me... 1dunno1

[link to abcnews.go.com]
ABC News: Osteen's Wife on Trial for Temper Tantrum

<snip>

"Osteen and her family were on Brown's flight from Houston to Vail, Colo., two years ago when, according to court documents, witnesses said Osteen became upset about a spill on the armrest of her first-class seat. She asked the flight attendants to clean up the spill and when they did not respond quickly enough, Osteen became confrontational, according to documents filed in the civil case that goes to trial today.

The lawsuit, filed in Harris County Civil Court in Houston, alleges that Victoria Osteen "shoved, grabbed and pulled the flight attendants." The suit goes on to claim that Osteen elbowed Brown, who was the flight manager, while allegedly trying to get into the cockpit of the airplane.

Brown's attorney, Reginald McKamie, contends that Osteen has a dark side that the trial will expose. His client, he said, was forced into civil court because Continental did not call police when the incident happened. Osteen and her family were asked to leave the flight; Osteen was later fined $3,000 by the Federal Aviation Administration for interfering with a flight crew member."


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just sayin' stoner
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if you peeled away her makeup, you'd find a big bad wolf
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Joel and Victoria Osteen were created just a little lower than the angels of heaven and have been raised up by God for such a time as this. What the devil meant for their destruction God is already turning around for good.
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Joel and Victoria Osteen were created just a little lower than the angels of heaven and have been raised up by God for such a time as this. What the devil meant for their destruction God is already turning around for good.
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For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 2Tim 4:3,4

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