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Food Stamp question on Job Application

 
Anonymous Coward
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08/07/2008 10:47 PM
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A family member asked if anyone in our family was on food-stamps because they filled-out a job application for a chain book store and it asked if anyone in your family was on foodstamps.
We wondered what the purpose of the question is?
I said, "Are you sure that it didn't ask if someone in your house recieved foodstamps?, because maybe the government gets some kind-of report on that in case people get hired they drop the foodstamps or something?"
He said, "No, it asked specifically, "Mother, Father, anyone in your family."
We couldn't figure-out if recieving foodstamps would make a difference in being hired, like maybe the store gets a tax-break for giving a food-stamp family member a job, or if it would be an advantage, or a disadvantage, and really why do they ask that?
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08/07/2008 10:49 PM
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Tell them you ate them and was on the food stamps for a while but the effect has worn off.
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08/07/2008 10:50 PM
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it might be that they are on the reporting registry......legally bound to report any income
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08/07/2008 10:52 PM
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Food stamps count as income?

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Anonymous Coward (OP)
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!...I was just wondering if being on food stamps would actually help someone get a job over someone who is not?
It looks like in his state people who recieve assistance are not allowed to refuse employment if they are offered a job, so maybe the person doing the hiring has to report it to the government?
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08/07/2008 10:59 PM
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GOV COLLECTS INCOME DATA INFO FROM A HOST OF SOURCES .PROBLEM IS LAZY AFFIRMATIVE ACTION WORKERS WOULD HAVE ADDED PAPER, WORK TO FILL OUT OMG ...THATS WHERE THE BUCK PHYSICALLY STOPS ....LOL...
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08/07/2008 10:59 PM
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[link to www.twc.state.tx.us]

Please review the above link or google a search for Work Opportunity Tax Credit for ___________(your State)
Hope this might help with the OP posting.
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08/07/2008 11:14 PM
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A family member asked if anyone in our family was on food-stamps because they filled-out a job application for a chain book store and it asked if anyone in your family was on foodstamps.
We wondered what the purpose of the question is?
I said, "Are you sure that it didn't ask if someone in your house recieved foodstamps?, because maybe the government gets some kind-of report on that in case people get hired they drop the foodstamps or something?"
He said, "No, it asked specifically, "Mother, Father, anyone in your family."
We couldn't figure-out if recieving foodstamps would make a difference in being hired, like maybe the store gets a tax-break for giving a food-stamp family member a job, or if it would be an advantage, or a disadvantage, and really why do they ask that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 480793

Its called welfare to work. There is also a form that the employer will need to fill out for Human Services. The food stamps won't be dropped completely unless its s SIGNIFICANT increase in income. Even then, there might be an adjustment period from food stamp reliance to self reliance.
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08/07/2008 11:19 PM
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The Work Opportunity Tax Credit is a federal tax credit used to reduce the federal tax liability of private-for-profit employers. Employers can hire from 9 different targeted groups:

* Qualified TANF Recipients
* Qualified Veterans
* Qualified Ex-Felons
* Qualified Designated Community Residents (DCR)
* Qualified Vocational Rehabilitation Referrals
* Qualified Summer Youth
* Qualified Food Stamp Recipients
* Qualified Supplemental Security Income (SSI) Recipients
* Qualified Long-Term Family Assistance Recipients

IRS Form 8850 "Pre-Screening Notice and Certification Request for the Work Opportunity Credit" (PDF)
* Instructions for Form 8850 (PDF)
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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08/07/2008 11:27 PM
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Oh-thank-you for the name of that program! So, if they ask the question, maybe it means they participate, and they would be more inclined to hire someone if they were recieving food-stamps?
If this person doesn't get a job soon, they will need them anyhow, but it would be interesting, and maybe helpfull to know if it would help the get a job sooner with that store if they had food-stamps?
I also wonder if this is discrimination?
They don't need foodstamps, yet, but what-if someone who already has them gets the job because of a prefrence or tax-credit, and they don't?
I had a question like that with a large employer once, but it was after I was hired in orientation and I think they told us that the company got a tax-break.
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08/07/2008 11:32 PM
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The Work Opportunity Tax Credit is a federal tax credit used to reduce the federal tax liability of private-for-profit employers. Employers can hire from 9 different targeted groups:

* Qualified TANF Recipients
* Qualified Veterans
* Qualified Ex-Felons
* Qualified Designated Community Residents (DCR)
* Qualified Vocational Rehabilitation Referrals
* Qualified Summer Youth
* Qualified Food Stamp Recipients
* Qualified Supplemental Security Income (SSI) Recipients
* Qualified Long-Term Family Assistance Recipients

IRS Form 8850 "Pre-Screening Notice and Certification Request for the Work Opportunity Credit" (PDF)
* Instructions for Form 8850 (PDF)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 444722


So in other words they give the down & out bunch *temporary* jobs so they can get them off public assistance - then fire their asses because they weren't up to it in the first place.

OOOOOH NO JASPER! THEY WOULDN'T DO THAT WOULD THEY!?
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08/07/2008 11:40 PM
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I have little first hand exposure to a couple of these entitlement programs because one of my family members is on SSI.

Rule: the SSI recipient - at least in this case - cannot make over $500 per year and still receive SSI.

Yep, that's a great way to encourage re-employment and working to regain self-sufficiency, which, of course, if one reviews these programs is not the goal.

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08/07/2008 11:46 PM
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Oh-thank-you for the name of that program! So, if they ask the question, maybe it means they participate, and they would be more inclined to hire someone if they were recieving food-stamps?
If this person doesn't get a job soon, they will need them anyhow, but it would be interesting, and maybe helpfull to know if it would help the get a job sooner with that store if they had food-stamps?
I also wonder if this is discrimination?
They don't need foodstamps, yet, but what-if someone who already has them gets the job because of a prefrence or tax-credit, and they don't?
I had a question like that with a large employer once, but it was after I was hired in orientation and I think they told us that the company got a tax-break.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 480793


It means that the last available jobs in town go to the handicapped who are promptly kicked off government assistance.....and of course the ablebodied aren't elligible for help, saving the goobermint money while out of work citizens starve.

Now when you go out for fast food you can order the "Retard Special".....if you still have a job that is.
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08/07/2008 11:57 PM
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I have little first hand exposure to a couple of these entitlement programs because one of my family members is on SSI.

Rule: the SSI recipient - at least in this case - cannot make over $500 per year and still receive SSI.

Yep, that's a great way to encourage re-employment and working to regain self-sufficiency, which, of course, if one reviews these programs is not the goal.

.
 Quoting: TX PATRIOT 440969


Oh yeah but the humorous part is that they *tell you* you can make up to 800 a month and still keep health benifits.

I'm giving 10 to 1 thats just a fucking lie to sucker recipients into giving up their checks. Anybody?
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08/08/2008 12:26 AM
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08/08/2008 12:29 AM
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It is a Federal Tax Credit for companies to encourage opportunity for the various groups of the "disadvantaged".
Why should the tax credits go back into the social programs and or into the open hands of the manipulators of the system??

The companies deserve the tax credit ,that created the opportunity.

The forms are a mandatory part of the application process for those firms that participate - should only be given with I-9,W-4 & Other POST OFFERS
The forms must be sent off weekly to the administrators for reporting and data storage(3rd party)and are not kept with the employee file.

If you are given one of these forms prior to offer of real employment (where they say you are hired and you have accepted)Ask for the companies HR Director or report it to your states labor board or workforce commission.

You can just do nothing and walk away
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08/08/2008 12:37 AM
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It is a Federal Tax Credit for companies to encourage opportunity for the various groups of the "disadvantaged".
Why should the tax credits go back into the social programs and or into the open hands of the manipulators of the system??

The companies deserve the tax credit ,that created the opportunity.

The forms are a mandatory part of the application process for those firms that participate - should only be given with I-9,W-4 & Other POST OFFERS
The forms must be sent off weekly to the administrators for reporting and data storage(3rd party)and are not kept with the employee file.

If you are given one of these forms prior to offer of real employment (where they say you are hired and you have accepted)Ask for the companies HR Director or report it to your states labor board or workforce commission.

You can just do nothing and walk away
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 444722


No, its just a scam to offload the handicapped onto private industry who will in turn offload them onto the street.

And fuck your "tax dollars" may they burn on the way to the bank.
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08/08/2008 12:48 AM
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Oh-thank-you for the name of that program! So, if they ask the question, maybe it means they participate, and they would be more inclined to hire someone if they were receiving food-stamps?
If this person doesn't get a job soon, they will need them anyhow, but it would be interesting, and maybe helpfull to know if it would help the get a job sooner with that store if they had food-stamps?
I also wonder if this is discrimination?
They don't need foodstamps, yet, but what-if someone who already has them gets the job because of a prefrence or tax-credit, and they don't?
I had a question like that with a large employer once, but it was after I was hired in orientation and I think they told us that the company got a tax-break.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 480793

That is where you might be mis guided.....

Companies only hiring for tax credits(WOTC) is unethical in my book, the same as the known reports of hiring practices for EEOC compliance or awarding projects based on status.

and they would be more inclined to hire someone if they were receiving food-stamps?

They should make a hire based on your qualifications,interview,face to face interaction,are you presentable, do you make an overall good first impression, are you dressed appropriately for the work environment, are you prepared, are you on time, what do your references say about your past performance, are you willing to work days,nights,weekends... do you have a reliable way to get to the job, do you have issues that would interfere with your responsibility to be at work????

These are some serious questions that job seekers should know that in today's tight job market ..prospective employers will be asking and expecting... I know I do
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08/08/2008 01:03 AM
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It is a Federal Tax Credit for companies to encourage opportunity for the various groups of the "disadvantaged".
Why should the tax credits go back into the social programs and or into the open hands of the manipulators of the system??
The companies deserve the tax credit ,that created the opportunity.
The forms are a mandatory part of the application process for those firms that participate - should only be given with I-9,W-4 & Other POST OFFERS
The forms must be sent off weekly to the administrators for reporting and data storage(3rd party)and are not kept with the employee file.
If you are given one of these forms prior to offer of real employment (where they say you are hired and you have accepted)Ask for the companies HR Director or report it to your states labor board or workforce commission.
You can just do nothing and walk away

No, its just a scam to offload the handicapped onto private industry who will in turn offload them onto the street.

And fuck your "tax dollars" may they burn on the way to the bank.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 461504

Are you truly handicapped mentaly,physically challanged or just flat ass do not get it??
Tax dollars... hahahaha correction TAX CREDIT ..
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08/08/2008 01:23 AM
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My son put in a application at wal-mart once and the question was on it. They never called him I guess because he wasn't on food stamps.
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11/15/2011 06:03 PM
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Thanks for all the responses, I have never been on any aid or food stamps. I am a senior in college looking for a job. I have work experience and I have been wondering why none of these chain stores that I have been applying to have not called me back!

It makes sense now, I am not a priority to them.
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11/15/2011 06:15 PM
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The Work Opportunity Tax Credit is a federal tax credit used to reduce the federal tax liability of private-for-profit employers. Employers can hire from 9 different targeted groups:

* Qualified TANF Recipients
* Qualified Veterans
* Qualified Ex-Felons
* Qualified Designated Community Residents (DCR)
* Qualified Vocational Rehabilitation Referrals
* Qualified Summer Youth
* Qualified Food Stamp Recipients
* Qualified Supplemental Security Income (SSI) Recipients
* Qualified Long-Term Family Assistance Recipients

IRS Form 8850 "Pre-Screening Notice and Certification Request for the Work Opportunity Credit" (PDF)
* Instructions for Form 8850 (PDF)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 444722


Interesting that most of the people in those groups will likely not be paying income taxes. Why would they want people who won't be paying income taxes to get jobs ahead of those who would?
Anonymous Coward
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11/15/2011 06:18 PM
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The employers get tax credits for hiring public benefits recipients.
You don't have to answer the question.
Welfare records are completely confidential.
They do not appear on your employment or credit records or anywhere else.
Even the FBI needs a federal court order to get the info.





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