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How Do I Help My Son Through Oxy Withdrawal
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blackcat66
User ID: 348276
 United States
8/8/2008 12:24 PM | | Re: How Do I Help My Son Through Oxy Withdrawal | Quote |
He just started a new job, which is very hard to find here for someone who has little job experience. Should I tell, or have him tell his new employers what is happeing so he is aware and can allow the time, or should I just let him get fired....again, cos he is going to be if he if he goes through with quitting. Quoting: Kahlshi
Please, don't do that!. You will labeled him as a 'risk to the company'. Besides, managers hate moms and dads, calls.
Your mom rights starts and ends at home, once they are young adults. You may support him with his recovery, and be by his side, all the way through, but please!, do not play mom at his job. He can talk to his boss if that is what he wants. |
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dalak
User ID: 481041
United States
8/8/2008 12:32 PM
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what a sweet/good parent you are, and that is the main ingredient. change is comin Now, and it will be ok, but a day in hell is like 7...i think you got what it takes to do this, and save your baby. so i dont need to give you details, i got faith in ya. and ya kid a have faith in ya. and thats the thing here. you just be you.  |
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Kahlshi NLI
User ID: 480459 (OP)
United States
8/8/2008 12:49 PM | | Re: How Do I Help My Son Through Oxy Withdrawal | Quote |
Thanks Malu. And Dalak, you too.
The last few times I have seen him he cannot sit up or keep his eyes open. Sick to his stomaach, won't eat. Hurts all over.
I will do the area hotline thing and see if there is help that way.
Chris was a bright star. He was the one everyone wanted to be around because he gave off so much joy and everyone loved him. Up until about a year ago anyway. He plays guitar, been in several bands, done shows and is a fast learner. Not now. No life in him.
I'll be there as best I can.
I have seen several of his friends go to and from rehab as their parents could afford it. One girl went 30 at 15,000.00 at her Mom's expense. She is right back at it. |
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malu
User ID: 476687
United States
8/8/2008 12:57 PM
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Thanks Malu. And Dalak, you too.
The last few times I have seen him he cannot sit up or keep his eyes open. Sick to his stomaach, won't eat. Hurts all over.
I will do the area hotline thing and see if there is help that way.
Chris was a bright star. He was the one everyone wanted to be around because he gave off so much joy and everyone loved him. Up until about a year ago anyway. He plays guitar, been in several bands, done shows and is a fast learner. Not now. No life in him.
I'll be there as best I can.
I have seen several of his friends go to and from rehab as their parents could afford it. One girl went 30 at 15,000.00 at her Mom's expense. She is right back at it. Quoting: Kahlshi NLI 480459
if he has hit rock bottom, he is ready for help, if he has not, he will only be going through the motions, and will get right back on it, i am sure you know that
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 418035
United States
8/8/2008 12:57 PM | | Re: How Do I Help My Son Through Oxy Withdrawal | Quote |
I didn't wade through all the responses. Get him to a clinic and they'll put him on methadone. |
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**Scor~Pios**
User ID: 480501
United States
8/8/2008 1:02 PM | | Re: How Do I Help My Son Through Oxy Withdrawal | Quote |
Have him go to a free clinic in your area. They should be able to help.
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Skipper1975
User ID: 448826
United States
8/8/2008 1:09 PM | | Re: How Do I Help My Son Through Oxy Withdrawal | Quote |
it's a process....
i have overcome smoking & meth..
first of all it takes willpower,but the strategy is to wean yourself off of the drug...start reducing your intake day by day..
then on the last day when your will says thats it,i'm going to stop this BS you do and dont look back.
remember another key is to make your final quit at night before you go to sleep..cause if you try to quit after you do something in the moring your gonna deal with withdrawels all day.
the other key is to do things to keep your mind off of the stuff...play games..watch movies..take care fo yourself..
willpower!
much love to you and all
~we(me,kalindi,nimai and our unborn) need some help.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 457129
United States
8/8/2008 1:12 PM | | Re: How Do I Help My Son Through Oxy Withdrawal | Quote |
I hear ads on WCBS 880 New York for detox and I see billboards on the highway in NJ (Camden) for detox by a doctor in his office.
Apparently, he anesthetizes the patient in his office and detoxes him in 4 hours. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 61564
United States
8/8/2008 1:15 PM | | Re: How Do I Help My Son Through Oxy Withdrawal | Quote |
I think his new job would understand "the flu" ONE time.
So, if he's already in w-drawl, he could ride it out. It really only takes 4 days.
Then about a month of mild cravings & depression.
Clonodine (non-addictive blood pressure drug),from a doctor could really help him get through the worst of it.
(the heebie-jeebie part).
Dehydration could be bad. Adult diapers might help--lots of towels, washcloths, showers.
His best hope is to go through the sickness and then STOP. Forever.
I have to disagree about the life-long cravings.
Yes you have to be carefull, but he is young.
Some education, but not too much fraterazation with the NA-folks could help.
I know plenty of people who have got physically addicted to all kinds of things in their youth and then never gone back to it.
He's in a new enviroment so that could help. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 61564
United States
8/8/2008 1:21 PM | | Re: How Do I Help My Son Through Oxy Withdrawal | Quote |
Plus-he's so young, if he gets clean he will realise that his you-know-what will "start-working" again and he will get his libido! back.
What young guy wants to give that up?
(or girl)-There are a lot of girls out there who don't want a boyfriend with erectile dysfunction, so being a normal healthy detoxed young man could make him popular with the ladies instead of thier bfs who have to take viagra or just don't get it that those pain-pills ruin their sex life. |
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6th Density Saiyan Monkey 
4th Density Beta Tester
User ID: 455445
United States
8/8/2008 1:41 PM
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I can't believe no ones said this yet.
There is a way that forces the body to produce natural endorphins: it doesn't cost any money, it doesn't have any side effects, and it makes you live a longer life.
IT'S CALLED EXERCISE!!!!
The cool thing about it is that you can do it with him. You can be their to push him and guide him and give him support.
If he's mentally and physically sain enough to get employed to work for someone, it sounds like he's still functional.
When I say exercise. I mean exercise!!!!!
I mean use the entire weekend to do it. Wont hurt his job. Go for a 10 to 20 mile walk. Everytime he feels the bite hit him, make him sprint 100 yards. Be creative.
Drink lots of fluids and repeat. Don't quit until he's so tired all he thinks about is sleep. Repeat the next day.
He'll be back to normal in no time.
But don't quit there.
Narq Anon or Alch Anon should be a major decision for him to consider. That decision can be made easier when those natural endorphins are kicking again (via exercise).
Good luck!!!
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 413608
United States
8/8/2008 1:50 PM | | Re: How Do I Help My Son Through Oxy Withdrawal | Quote |
Been through many cases with multiple friends and honestly the only thing that will take the edge off without putting more opiates into your body is MJ. Smoke it for 3 days about every 5 hours and you will virtually have no pains. Just be sure to drink a ton of water and stay positive. It is one hundred percent do-able.
Good luck! Oh yeah, dont be a sheep and think you are trading one drug for another. MJ is medicine, pure and simple. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 437823
good advice |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 413608
United States
8/8/2008 1:53 PM | | Re: How Do I Help My Son Through Oxy Withdrawal | Quote |
prayer and fasting
pray to Jesus
and a 24 hour water fast
God bless
Do not do this. Your child will be in agony. Jesus can't solve this. Your son needs your help.
It's ok, I have to do this, Jesus can watch and make sure I do it right, Quoting: Kahlshi
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Kahlshi
User ID: 480459
United States
8/8/2008 1:54 PM
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IT'S CALLED EXERCISE!!!!
Good luck!!! Quoting: 6th Density Saiyan Monkey
Are you speaking from your own experience or watching others? I have thought about that too, making him swim, walk, move, just do it until he is exhausted and ready to rest. I do it even in this gawawful heat here in FL. Seems like a good idea to me.
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Wraithwynd
User ID: 449681
United States
8/8/2008 1:54 PM | | Re: How Do I Help My Son Through Oxy Withdrawal | Quote |
He is 19, technically you are not responsible for his financial problems.
Allow him to accrue medical bills. They will be his debt.
Secondly, since he is hooked on a drug that is meant to get people off of other opiates, he will need to go through Rehab.
Yes institutionalization is what is needed.
YOU can not help anyone who has a drug problem. Once you understand this as a fact, his ability to get the help and help himself will be much better.
Alanon teaches loved ones of addicts/alcoholics to let go and let God. It is a hard process, but it is the only one that works.
Your son needs professional, medical help. Unless you have medical training and the legal ability to write prescriptions, then there is nothing you can do.
He needs to enter into a 28 day Rehab program where they will line him up not only with a doctor to proscribe oxy to him, but also will line him up with any medical financial aid programs in your area, most states have a program that provides medical care too indigent adults - the trick is jumping through the hoops of fire to get it.
If he is unwilling to do rehab, then I strongly suggest to HIM (NOT YOU) to use pot or another kind of relaxant to take the edge off of the physical withdrawal symptoms. since he is already abusing oxy it makes no sense for him to attempt to break the habit by using oxy.
Let me stress again, he is 19 years of age - you are not legally financially obligated to pay his bills when it comes anything. HE is. HE can go into debt over HIS addiction, HE can get a job, HE can have HIS credit ruined as part of the wreckage of HIS addiction.
Unless you turned him onto the drugs (pushed them on him) you did not put him in this position - thus this is not your problem to fix for him.
I know it sounds cold and cruel, its not. Its a form of Tough Love, where you allow a person to go through the trials and tribulations of the consequences of their own behavior in order for them to learn how to be responsible for self.
ALL addicts and alcoholics end their drug/drinking days with 'wreckage' be it in the form of substantial bills, be it in the form of health issues, be it in the form of lost relationships, family members, friends, be it in the form of emotional and mental damage - however it comes it is part and parcel of the process of recovery to deal with our self inflicted problems and too allow ourselves to learn that our previous actions created these situations. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 413608
United States
8/8/2008 1:55 PM | | Re: How Do I Help My Son Through Oxy Withdrawal | Quote |
My friend just lost her 19 yr, old son to oxy. He had just gooten his first apartment away from home. He was on his own one month and then O.D. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 481030
United States
8/8/2008 1:56 PM | | Re: How Do I Help My Son Through Oxy Withdrawal | Quote |
IT'S CALLED EXERCISE!!!!
Good luck!!!
Are you speaking from your own experience or watching others? I have thought about that too, making him swim, walk, move, just do it until he is exhausted and ready to rest. I do it even in this gawawful heat here in FL. Seems like a good idea to me. Quoting: Kahlshi
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fight and beat this thing |
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Spectrum Blue
User ID: 454394
United States
8/8/2008 2:27 PM | | Re: How Do I Help My Son Through Oxy Withdrawal | Quote |
This is a terrible thing to go through and I know that being on narcotics is no kind of life at all.
I agree with the rehab ideas. Also group therapy can help him with his depression and he can let out any deep feelings that may have been a catalyst for the addiction in the first place.
You are a wonderful parent to catch this in your son and to help him stop. It's people like you that got me off of the lortabs I was addicted to.
And yes, exercise does help. The withdrawals causes anxiety also so you need something for him to do to use up that anxiety energy. Luckily for me my ex-husband's parents had Dance Dance Revolution that I tried working out to. I suck at it, but it's fun.
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6th Density Saiyan Monkey
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User ID: 455445
United States
8/8/2008 3:06 PM
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Alcohol is in my family tree.
People can say that alcohol is different then the hard stuff. Wrong!!!!
It's been claimed to have the same withdrawal effect parallel to heroin or worse. just research it.
Yet, alcoholics are successful at beating the habit.
2 of my family members have let their life be taken over by alcohol. They are sober now.
I still drink. And I am not afraid to admit I can drink too much at times. The only detourant for me was my own personal experiences and the fact that I know I can simply workout like a freak and remember the feeling of natural endorphins controlling my crave.
I live in Florida too. Yes it's hot and humid as (the so called) hell!!!!
In the summer time I ride my race bike on a bike trainer. I put my fans and AC system blowing directly on me. 1 hour of workout makes me a happy man. Make him drink a lot of electrolytes (gatoraid), rinse, and repeat.
And don't degrade the power of sweat. Your son needs to sweat it out.
Hope this helps.
We are never apart from each other. We are always a part of each other.
"No One Comes to the Father Except Through Me" The reptilian Bible!!
Jesus really said, "no one reaches thy higher (mature) self without seeking thy inner self!! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 480459 (OP)
United States
8/8/2008 3:12 PM | | Re: How Do I Help My Son Through Oxy Withdrawal | Quote |
Change your Avatar
Get mean and strong
No more mr. nice guy
fight and beat this thing Quoting: Anonymous Coward 481030
Me... get strong? Hey, I don't have the problem. I don't even like taking a friggin advil or tylenol! Why do I have to get mean and strong?
Besides, I like my Avatar. I am for the most part warm and fuzzy and cute to look at. But this ain't about me with a drug problem. I just came for advice and direction. |
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Kahlshi
User ID: 480459
United States
8/8/2008 3:16 PM
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Yes, that was me above, login timed out. I still like my kitty.
Whether You Think You Can Or Think You Can't, Either Way, You're Right. |
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Kahlshi
User ID: 480459
United States
8/8/2008 3:18 PM
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My friend just lost her 19 yr, old son to oxy. He had just gooten his first apartment away from home. He was on his own one month and then O.D. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 413608
She must be devastated, and I am so sorry for her loss! My sons lost their stepmom just 2 years ago due to overdose. It didn't stop their father and it has not stopped them. This addiction is sick. mY youngest has it the worst of all three.
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OneAngryMom
User ID: 300939
United States
8/8/2008 3:20 PM
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I didn't read all of the answers/opinions.
GET YOUR SON TO A DETOX UNIT!
This is a VERY difficult addiction to purge from your system and it can be a deadly process.
PROFESSIONAL HELP REQUIRED
DON'T FUCK AROUND WITH THIS!
(IMHO) |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 481030
United States
8/8/2008 3:22 PM | | Re: How Do I Help My Son Through Oxy Withdrawal | Quote |
My friend just lost her 19 yr, old son to oxy. He had just gooten his first apartment away from home. He was on his own one month and then O.D.
She must be devastated, and I am so sorry for her loss! My sons lost their stepmom just 2 years ago due to overdose. It didn't stop their father and it has not stopped them. This addiction is sick. mY youngest has it the worst of all three. Quoting: Kahlshi
I will pray for you and your family in Jesus Name!!!!
I will pray that God will send in some aerial support and bombard the evil!
Look out!
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Spectrum Blue
User ID: 454394
United States
8/8/2008 3:23 PM | | Re: How Do I Help My Son Through Oxy Withdrawal | Quote |
Yes, that was me above, login timed out. I still like my kitty. Quoting: Kahlshi
Kahlshi, kawaii shironeko, everyone who is against other drugs solving problems is right.
Try the group therapy programs and the programs that will help your son get into rehab. Then after that keep him going to therapy groups and keeps him away from any of his old "connections". This includes any druggie friends that he has.
Get him to exercise. This will help with anxiety and keep him busy. The craving never does go away, but it can get easier to deal with if you have supportive friends and a busy, yet fun, life.
Good Luck with this and I'll pray for you.
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6th Density Saiyan Monkey
4th Density Beta Tester
User ID: 455445
United States
8/8/2008 3:27 PM
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Spectrum Blue is right!
The anxiety from detox and wanting to get help can be curbed via exercise
We are never apart from each other. We are always a part of each other.
"No One Comes to the Father Except Through Me" The reptilian Bible!!
Jesus really said, "no one reaches thy higher (mature) self without seeking thy inner self!! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 2332
United States
8/8/2008 3:28 PM | | Re: How Do I Help My Son Through Oxy Withdrawal | Quote |
the exercise works of course--yes it is the only thing that works.
But thats AFTER detox, which takes a few days,& may take him to the hospital.
Its better than getting dopesick every day.
Or every time you run out of drugs. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 479702
 Canada
8/8/2008 3:31 PM | | Re: How Do I Help My Son Through Oxy Withdrawal | Quote |
As another poster said, watch him carfully after he has come off it.
Drugs like this have a cumlative affect. each dose he took will have been just a little more then the last.
When he is off it, if he goes back on it, he has a huge chance to OD. These drugs dont hit you instantly, and if he is prone to taking a certian ammount, but dosent have the tollerence any more he could end up ODing on an ammount that was small compared to what he used to take.
Tell him this. Oxy is a hard drug opiate and if he does this he has to stick with it, because if he goes back its going to be 100 times worse, or invite even death.
I had a friend taking 800 mg of morphine a day. Thats fucking insane. The most I ever took was 100mg and I was fucked for a full day. These things can geet on top of you and fast.
Another problem is with eating opiates they collapse veigns and thin the blood, if he keeps doing this, he could end up dying from not an OD but loss of blood flow because the veigns bringing blood to the various places in the body will have collapsed.
Explain these too him and make him realize that there is only one way down that street with multipule exits.
As for the withdrawls lock him in his room. Provide soup and laxitives, a tv and books, but untill the withdrawls are over for the most part DO NOT LET HIM OUT OF THAT ROOM!
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max
User ID: 335332
Canada
8/8/2008 3:44 PM | | Re: How Do I Help My Son Through Oxy Withdrawal | Quote |
not one not one of you has made any sense... you have to find out why he started looking for an alternate reality, ie what was wrong to make him start these drugs in the first place, what kind of abuse was he going through.... real communication and real love and support is the key as well as a good organic diet... he has to want this, and learn why he is where he is... you never treat any kind of addiction with more drugs, help him get some more oxycontin, and slowly wean his dosage down, all the while opening up ral communication, and make sure he eats right, this way he can start his new job which will help him rerealise his potential. |
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max
User ID: 335332
Canada
8/8/2008 3:47 PM | | Re: How Do I Help My Son Through Oxy Withdrawal | Quote |
if human is well adjusted occaisonal drug use is good experience very valid, its how much and how frequent that determines if problems exist. |
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