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Arizona Secedes...

 
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Arizona Secedes...
Hypothetically...Arizona residents vote for independence from the US. Tensions run high between Arizona and Wash. DC, and some small skirmishes ensue. Mexico stages 1000 tanks and a few battalions of infantry jut across the Rio Grande. The Feds get frustrated and bomb Phoenix. Mexican Army rolls into Arizona and Mexican fighters bomb the shit out of DC.

Who is in the right?

See an paralells?
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Re: Arizona Secedes...
See any paralell?s
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08/10/2008 11:39 AM
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Re: Arizona Secedes...
no asshole, since the u.s has supported breakaway provinces like TAIWAN!

get the fuck out of here w/ your double standard,, fuckturd
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08/10/2008 11:40 AM
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no asshole, since the u.s has supported breakaway provinces like TAIWAN!

get the fuck out of here w/ your double standard,, fuckturd
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Wake me when we start bombing China...
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08/10/2008 11:45 AM
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Re: Arizona Secedes...
no asshole, since the u.s has supported breakaway provinces like TAIWAN!

get the fuck out of here w/ your double standard,, fuckturd

Wake me when we start bombing China...
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hey asswhipe, we armed taiwan to the T , thus throwing off the balance of power away from china, which btw... asserts the same right and the U.S --- menroe doctrine and the control over one's sphere of influence.

As I said --- GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE IDIOT
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08/10/2008 11:48 AM
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Re: Arizona Secedes...
The only parallel I see is that Russia probably does have sleeper cells in Arizona. They would love nothing more than to see the illegal Mexican immigrants in Arizona start to riot. Of course that is where the paralell ends because at that point Russia could not claim they need to step in and protect the illegal immigrants. Russia might give thousands of illegal Mexican immigrants Russian passports in a feeble attempt to gain some leverage but the US would just exports the illegals back to Mexico.
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08/10/2008 11:49 AM
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Re: Arizona Secedes...
Yukon votes to secede from canada and apply to become the 51st state of US & run a oil pipeline to seattle

Ottawa objects and bombs Montreal

What should washington do?
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08/10/2008 11:50 AM
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Re: Arizona Secedes...
no asshole, since the u.s has supported breakaway provinces like TAIWAN!

get the fuck out of here w/ your double standard,, fuckturd

Wake me when we start bombing China...



hey asswhipe, we armed taiwan to the T , thus throwing off the balance of power away from china, which btw... asserts the same right and the U.S --- menroe doctrine and the control over one's sphere of influence.

As I said --- GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE IDIOT
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 250177

Until you can effectively communicate in English, you are excused.
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08/10/2008 11:51 AM
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Re: Arizona Secedes...
Yukon votes to secede from canada and apply to become the 51st state of US & run a oil pipeline to seattle

Ottawa objects and bombs Montreal

What should washington do?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 390552

Washington should let Yukon and Ottawa work it out amongst themelves.
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08/10/2008 11:56 AM
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Re: Arizona Secedes...
no asshole, since the u.s has supported breakaway provinces like TAIWAN!

get the fuck out of here w/ your double standard,, fuckturd

Wake me when we start bombing China...



hey asswhipe, we armed taiwan to the T , thus throwing off the balance of power away from china, which btw... asserts the same right and the U.S --- menroe doctrine and the control over one's sphere of influence.

As I said --- GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE IDIOT

Until you can effectively communicate in English, you are excused.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 482254



strawman argument. YOu lose, I win. ASSSWHIPE
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08/10/2008 12:02 PM
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Re: Arizona Secedes...
strawman argument. YOu lose, I win. ASSSWHIPE
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You win?
laugh
The people of Arizona are still dying, and Mexican bombs are still falling in Maryland.
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08/10/2008 12:07 PM
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Re: Arizona Secedes...
strawman argument. YOu lose, I win. ASSSWHIPE

You win?
laugh
The people of Arizona are still dying, and Mexican bombs are still falling in Maryland.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 482254


asswhipe, the min. you condemn russia, you also condemn the u.s.
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Re: Arizona Secedes...
It's okay, because Mexico mailed a passport to all the residents of Arizona.
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08/10/2008 12:09 PM
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Re: Arizona Secedes...
asswhipe, the min. you condemn russia, you also condemn the u.s.
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Like I said, wake me when we start dropping bombs on Beijing.

English is not your fist language, is it?
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08/10/2008 12:18 PM
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Re: Arizona Secedes...
asswhipe, the min. you condemn russia, you also condemn the u.s.

Like I said, wake me when we start dropping bombs on Beijing.

English is not your fist language, is it?
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neither is intelligence yours
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08/10/2008 12:20 PM
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Re: Arizona Secedes...
asswhipe, the min. you condemn russia, you also condemn the u.s.

Like I said, wake me when we start dropping bombs on Beijing.

English is not your fist language, is it?


neither is intelligence yours
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 250177

So, you're saying it's cool to invade and bomb soveriegn nations at will. Russia is justified in Georgia, and the U is justified in Iraq.
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08/10/2008 12:21 PM
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Re: Arizona Secedes...
Russia is justified in Georgia, and the US is justified in Iraq.
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08/10/2008 12:29 PM
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Re: Arizona Secedes...
asswhipe, the min. you condemn russia, you also condemn the u.s.

Like I said, wake me when we start dropping bombs on Beijing.

English is not your fist language, is it?


neither is intelligence yours

So, you're saying it's cool to invade and bomb soveriegn nations at will. Russia is justified in Georgia, and the U is justified in Iraq.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 482254


what i am saying is if you condemn russia make sure you condemnt usa, instead of taking the blind's eye approach to us aggression but calling out russia when she does it.

HYPOCRITE!
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08/10/2008 12:35 PM
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Re: Arizona Secedes...
asswhipe, the min. you condemn russia, you also condemn the u.s.

Like I said, wake me when we start dropping bombs on Beijing.

English is not your fist language, is it?


neither is intelligence yours

So, you're saying it's cool to invade and bomb soveriegn nations at will. Russia is justified in Georgia, and the U is justified in Iraq.


what i am saying is if you condemn russia make sure you condemnt usa, instead of taking the blind's eye approach to us aggression but calling out russia when she does it.

HYPOCRITE!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 250177


I have not offered an opinion on US aggression one way or the other, as that was not the subject of this thread.

Why are you trying to change the subject?

It appears that you condone both Russian and American aggression.

I, on the other hand, condemn both.

Russia is wrong in Georgia.

The USA is wrong in Iraq.
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08/10/2008 12:37 PM
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Re: Arizona Secedes...
asswhipe, the min. you condemn russia, you also condemn the u.s.

Like I said, wake me when we start dropping bombs on Beijing.

English is not your fist language, is it?


neither is intelligence yours

So, you're saying it's cool to invade and bomb soveriegn nations at will. Russia is justified in Georgia, and the U is justified in Iraq.


what i am saying is if you condemn russia make sure you condemnt usa, instead of taking the blind's eye approach to us aggression but calling out russia when she does it.

HYPOCRITE!


I have not offered an opinion on US aggression one way or the other, as that was not the subject of this thread.

Why are you trying to change the subject?

It appears that you condone both Russian and American aggression.

I, on the other hand, condemn both.

Russia is wrong in Georgia.

The USA is wrong in Iraq.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 482254


thats alll u had to say. thank u
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thats alll u had to say. thank u
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 250177

You can fuck off now troll, until you condemn Russian aggression.
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08/10/2008 01:09 PM
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Re: Arizona Secedes...
AC 250177, this thread was an analogy of a hypothetical put forward to get us in the US to THINK, rather than just sitting on our computers thinking we dont have a care in the world.

OP, we all know (or should know) that if Texas, California, Arizona, Vermont, or any number of states tried to secede, that the US would intervene, and quite sternly at that. First, I believe they would try to "talk it out", just for show, and that wouldn't last very long. Then they would try the intimidation factor (threats, blockades, embargoes, etc). They would hope to break the spirit of the people so as to break the spirit of secession. When this failed to materialize, then skirmishes would ensue, then all out aggression.

We got a slight insight into it with Waco and Ruby Ridge. These should have shown us what our government is willing to do to anyone that opposes them.

I condemn both the US and Russia, as they are the aggressors. If a people are not happy with their leadership, then they should have the right to change it to their liking. If provinces of countries are not happy being part and parcel of those countries, then they should have the right (and duty) to obtain their freedom and once obtained, work to keep it but should not have to die for it 2,10,30,100 years down the road. But this is not the way of the world. The way of the world is, if you want to be free, you must fight every day, knowing the aggressor waits in the shadows, to strike as soon as you let your guard down the slightest bit.
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08/10/2008 01:14 PM
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Re: Arizona Secedes...
AC 250177, this thread was an analogy of a hypothetical put forward to get us in the US to THINK, rather than just sitting on our computers thinking we dont have a care in the world.

OP, we all know (or should know) that if Texas, California, Arizona, Vermont, or any number of states tried to secede, that the US would intervene, and quite sternly at that. First, I believe they would try to "talk it out", just for show, and that wouldn't last very long. Then they would try the intimidation factor (threats, blockades, embargoes, etc). They would hope to break the spirit of the people so as to break the spirit of secession. When this failed to materialize, then skirmishes would ensue, then all out aggression.

We got a slight insight into it with Waco and Ruby Ridge. These should have shown us what our government is willing to do to anyone that opposes them.

I condemn both the US and Russia, as they are the aggressors. If a people are not happy with their leadership, then they should have the right to change it to their liking. If provinces of countries are not happy being part and parcel of those countries, then they should have the right (and duty) to obtain their freedom and once obtained, work to keep it but should not have to die for it 2,10,30,100 years down the road. But this is not the way of the world. The way of the world is, if you want to be free, you must fight every day, knowing the aggressor waits in the shadows, to strike as soon as you let your guard down the slightest bit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 469820


Thank you. I was beginning to think that no one got it.

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