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Panic In The Streets of Montreal

 
TheChoirmaster
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Honduran immigrant killed, and according to CNN, there are riots going on in Montreal.

Just when you think that there's enough schiznit going on, BOOM!!!
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Was Hondoran breaking into to a home when he was killed..or commiting a terrible viscious crime against a enocent citizen when killed...
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I do not know. I'm more concerned w/ the incident sparking what CNN called a 'race riot.' More frightening is that it began in Canada and not the US.
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Honduran immigrant killed, and according to CNN, there are riots going on in Montreal.

Just when you think that there's enough schiznit going on, BOOM!!!
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"Panic In The Streets of Montreal"

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LES PERREAUX

Globe and Mail Update and Canadian Press

August 11, 2008 at 12:29 PM EDT

MONTREAL — Dozens of police officers were patrolling a Montreal neighbourhood Monday morning after an overnight rampage that erupted following the shooting of a young man by police.

Officers went through the burned out north neighbourhood, questioning residents and collecting evidence at several crime scenes. The husks of six burned out cars sat in front of the local fire station, which was closed, while dozens of people watched from the sidewalk or their apartment balconies.

Alexandre Monsef watched as workers boarded up a looted convenience store and pizza parlour in a building he owns.

"On Saturday, the cops overreact and shoot three young guys who did nothing wrong, on Sunday they do nothing while this happens," Mr. Monsef said.

Three police officers were lightly injured, including one female officer who was shot in the leg.

Six people were arrested and three fire trucks were damaged. Police say they've identified 20 break-ins during the looting and at least 39 acts of mischief.

"There was a wide swath of people involved in this, I saw one kid on a bike who must have been six," said Police chief Yvan Délorme. "It was not specifically linked to street gangs."

Community leaders in Montreal North said many people in local immigrant communities have been angry at heavy-handed police tactics for quite some time.

Propane tank fireballs, Molotov cocktails and gunfire lit up a Montreal neighbourhood as marauding youth gangs responded to the police shooting.

The rampage erupted in the city's north end after residents took to the streets for a community demonstration to protest against the shooting.

Hundreds of officers in full riot gear were still marching through the Montreal North neighbourhood early Monday morning, trying to bring calm to the area.

Early Monday, police confirmed that two officers were injured, including one who was shot in the leg.

"One was injured in the leg by a bullet, another was struck by a flying object," Montreal police spokesman Constable Raphaël Bergeron said.

An ambulance technician was injured when he was hit in the head by a Molotov cocktail.

The weekend of violence began as Freddy Alberto Villanueva and his older brother, Danny, were playing dice with friends in a park in the tough Montreal neighbourhood on Saturday. Police arrived and asked to talk to the elder sibling.

Moments later, 18-year-old Freddy lay mortally wounded, struck down by police bullets.

Another 18-year-old and a 20-year-old man were wounded in the ugly confrontation that triggered memories among some of the city's minority community leaders of violence involving police.

Danny Villanueva, 20, was questioned and released Sunday, according to his sister, Patricia Villanueva. No other arrests were made, according to police, and the two officers were not hurt.

Sunday's violence started when protesters torched several cars parked outside a fire station Sunday night in the district.

The rioters then set dozens of fires in the streets and pelted fire trucks with bottles when firefighters arrived to put them out.

The rampage continued through town before close to 100 people gathered in a commercial area.

Dozens crawled through the smashed windows of a pawn shop, convenience store and butcher shop. Most grabbed anything they could.

Men and women of all ages could be seen running down the street clutching TVs, cigarette cartons and slabs of meat.

A backdrop of three-metre high fireballs from about a dozen flaming propane tanks illuminated the looters' paths as they headed down the darkened streets.

An elderly woman carrying her newly acquired stereo laughed with her friend as they made their escape.

Some looters stood on the sidewalk and watched the action, drinking freshly stolen beer.

Meanwhile, along the residential streets, riot-squad officers were forced to dive for cover at least three times, after blasts of what sounded like gunshots went off around them.

“It was sick,” said Patrick Parent, who lives on the street behind the store.

“I had a guy shoot a gun next to me, that's how bad it was. The guy shot two shots, I ran home. It was terrifying. This was bad. I never thought I would see this in my life.”

Mr. Parent, who has lived in the area for six years, thought he had grown accustomed to his neighbourhood's gritty reputation.

“Once in a while there will be a gunshot,” he said. “Usually it's quiet though. There's never nothing bad. This is bad.

“I thought I would see this only on TV, never in real life.”

Sergeant Grégory Gomez del Prado, spokesman for the provincial police, said a male and a female officer drove up to the dice game in a squad car at 7:10 p.m. on Saturday night in Montreal North and tried to arrest a man when an altercation took place.

Witnesses in the neighbourhood, known among some officers as “The Bronx” because of its gang activity and crime, tried to fill in the gaps with their own accounts.

Patricia Villanueva, Danny Valenzuela's elder sister, and witness Samuel Medeiros said an officer wanted to talk to Danny, but he refused to go to the officer, protesting that he had no't done anything wrong.

When the officer arrested Danny, harsh words were exchanged and a scuffle ensued, Mr. Medeiros, 18, said in an interview.

“You can see where the glass was smashed [on the police car],” he said, showing the cellphone video he captured of the aftermath.

By several witness accounts, Freddy Villanueva was approaching the scuffle and yelling insults at the officer when the female officer opened fire.

Quebec provincial police, the Sûreté du Québec, have taken over the investigation into the shootings.

Early Monday morning, heavily armed SQ officers escorted firefighters as they dosed dozens of fires. Police helicopters surveyed the sector from above.

Police took some people into custody, but could not provide details.

Meanwhile, curious citizens walked the streets, scanning the wreckage of fallen bus shelters, trashed phone booths and burned-out cars.

“It's crazy,” said a shaken Richard Christie, a long-time resident.

“All night you could see explosions.”

Mr. Christie said he heard three gunshots as he sat on the front porch of his home.

“A little further down the road there were two fires and the kids were massacring our town,” he said. “After 30 years in Montreal North, I'm wondering if I should move.”

Montreal police Chief Yvan Delorme said Monday morning that officers made six arrests. Three people were nabbed for breaking and entering, one for drug possession and two others for charges still to be determined, he said.

The mob vandalized three fire trucks, the local fire station and broke into 20 businesses, Chief Delorme said.

He said those responsible were hard to catch.

“We faced young people who knew their territory, so they went inside buildings, around buildings,” he said.

Chief Delorme called Monday for an end to the violence and said he is prepared to do whatever is necessary to mend the shaky relations between police and the community.

“We're there to listen, to understand what happened yesterday (Sunday) night and to avoid these kinds of situations,” he said Monday. “We have to feel safe in Montreal.”
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the globalist media pawns would love to see race riots
but, they won't
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Thank you for sharing the article, LWIII! Blessings . . .
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Canadians can stop with the self-righteous bullshit now.

JUST BECAUSE you TALK LIKE A GIT, DOESN'T MEAN your GOVERNMENT OR COUNTRY IS BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE'S.
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That wasn't a race riot.. people will use any excuse for a few free cans of beer & a couple of bags of chips. This was not about race the real story here is about how sick we've become as a society.

Sure the incident was probably what sparked it (the excuse). But the burned cars and looted stores were a reflection of what we've become.. and an indicator of what awaits us.

Strange daze indeed.. shroom
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crazy thugs provoke police everywhere .then thug gets free lawyers for continueing his life of crime....if you want crime to lower then put a cap on free lawyers for career criminals ..without free lawyers this scum go to jail and citizens get a break instead of thugs getting the brakes.......................................Hany handied police should use havier handed tactic.round up the bunch eho destoyed property and deport at once...or else they wil continue to destoy canada as they have destroyed america..........and europe...send them back ....
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Canadians can stop with the self-righteous bullshit now.

JUST BECAUSE you TALK LIKE A GIT, DOESN'T MEAN your GOVERNMENT OR COUNTRY IS BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE'S.
 Quoting: Ignatius J. Reilly 402264



Ignatius, since when do we make ourselves out to be self-righteous. . . .or when have we said our government is better than any other??? Links please!!

And please stop yelling, we can hear you without you screaming.

Perhaps you should go into a quiet room and mediatate for a while and come back when you've calmed down. You really don't know what you are saying my friend. . .
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Recently, it was report that the crime rate is so high in one community in Arkansas that they are now under martial law...
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This was all about race. The area is practically the only black majority area in all canada. The police here are extremist quebecois nationalist, viciously racist, and quite murderous. There are unexplained police killings of young men every couple of weeks here. The whole place is like a tinder box.

The first incident happened at a park during the day last week. The police thugs for no apparent reason sggressively tackled and shackled a young man who they apparently wanted to search. His cries for help drew crowds of people near. The park was very busy full of people playing games and sports and lots of kids. At this point the local montreal gestapo opened fire.

At the protest yesterday these same police in full riot gear provoked, intimidated, and incited the peaceful demonstrators by continually agressively marching toward them and forcing the citizens to scurry out of the way until eventually somebody snapped.

If the police had wanted to provoke these riots they could hardly have done a better job.
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This was all about race. The area is practically the only black majority area in all canada. The police here are extremist quebecois nationalist, viciously racist, and quite murderous. There are unexplained police killings of young men every couple of weeks here. The whole place is like a tinder box.

The first incident happened at a park during the day last week. The police thugs for no apparent reason sggressively tackled and shackled a young man who they apparently wanted to search. His cries for help drew crowds of people near. The park was very busy full of people playing games and sports and lots of kids. At this point the local montreal gestapo opened fire.

At the protest yesterday these same police in full riot gear provoked, intimidated, and incited the peaceful demonstrators by continually agressively marching toward them and forcing the citizens to scurry out of the way until eventually somebody snapped.

If the police had wanted to provoke these riots they could hardly have done a better job.
 Quoting: montrealer 483016


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Montreal has riots all the time, you can't blame them, it's the French blood.
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omg ops u are really out on this one. that happen 24hours ago and they are 2-3 others tread on the forum.
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turbulent energy in the air
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"This was not about race the real story here is about how sick we've become as a society."

Race isn't just about what you look like, its also about the values you hold.

Universal values that immigrants have is distrust for authority (because in the countries they left they saw 'authority figures', those entrusted with the faith of their community, behave very very badly.

So when they move to another country - the first thing they do is attack 'authority', and change the status quo.

They attack authority in their adopted country precisely because they didn't have the courage to attack 'authority' in the country they came from.
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Montreal is a very different place than the rest of Canada. I LOVE Montreal but their passion often gets the better of them in that city and province.

Montreal is VERY racially charged and there is a small group of extremists who use every opportunity they can to cause problems for police or get media attention. For example, there were attacks on police cars and small fires set during this year's NHL playoffs. It was soon discovered that what CNN had called "riots" and "hockey fans out of control" was in fact an organized attack by a group of radical extremists hell bent on waging war against the Montreal police dept.

Believe what you want, but this is not panic or mass rioting. CNN is having a slow news day is all.

But what do I know. I only go there 7 or 8 times a year and am married to someone who grew up there. By all means, trust the most trusted name in news.

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This was all about race. The area is practically the only black majority area in all canada. The police here are extremist quebecois nationalist, viciously racist, and quite murderous. There are unexplained police killings of young men every couple of weeks here. The whole place is like a tinder box.

The first incident happened at a park during the day last week. The police thugs for no apparent reason sggressively tackled and shackled a young man who they apparently wanted to search. His cries for help drew crowds of people near. The park was very busy full of people playing games and sports and lots of kids. At this point the local montreal gestapo opened fire.

At the protest yesterday these same police in full riot gear provoked, intimidated, and incited the peaceful demonstrators by continually agressively marching toward them and forcing the citizens to scurry out of the way until eventually somebody snapped.

If the police had wanted to provoke these riots they could hardly have done a better job.
 Quoting: montrealer 483016

That might be true, some of the remarks I've read from Canadians(just a few):) have been rather off colored racial. But the rioting, looting, and come on those propane tanks! The sad truth is it LOOKED alot like New Orleans. Same Opportunists, who take advantage of a bad situation to go after what they want while others are taking care of the emergency. Unfortunately they are in every sector of the world community right now, and this seems to be spreading exponentially.
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f**CK the french canadian pussssssiiessssss
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This was all about race. The area is practically the only black majority area in all canada. The police here are extremist quebecois nationalist, viciously racist, and quite murderous. There are unexplained police killings of young men every couple of weeks here. The whole place is like a tinder box.

The first incident happened at a park during the day last week. The police thugs for no apparent reason sggressively tackled and shackled a young man who they apparently wanted to search. His cries for help drew crowds of people near. The park was very busy full of people playing games and sports and lots of kids. At this point the local montreal gestapo opened fire.

At the protest yesterday these same police in full riot gear provoked, intimidated, and incited the peaceful demonstrators by continually agressively marching toward them and forcing the citizens to scurry out of the way until eventually somebody snapped.

If the police had wanted to provoke these riots they could hardly have done a better job.
 Quoting: montrealer 483016

I am sorry to hear that the police act as they do. I've always presumed that your police had more respect and courtesey than some of the cops, here. It's not that all cops are ruthless . . . there is no black and white, but varying shades of grey.

On a great day, there's color everywhere.

Pardon the pun, but what are some of the racial politics of Canada. Besides making a few trips to Niagra Falls, I know little about what goes on up north.
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omg ops u are really out on this one. that happen 24hours ago and they are 2-3 others tread on the forum.
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I nopticed that, later, but so goes life. I hadn't turned on the tv or radio till I heard that Bush was speaking about Georgia.
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That wasn't a race riot.. people will use any excuse for a few free cans of beer & a couple of bags of chips. This was not about race the real story here is about how sick we've become as a society.

Sure the incident was probably what sparked it (the excuse). But the burned cars and looted stores were a reflection of what we've become.. and an indicator of what awaits us.

Strange daze indeed.. shroom
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 478239



Not about race? When have you seen white people riot and loot the stores?


But. why did the coppette open fire on an unarmed dude? I guess he disrespected her.
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Hondurans in Quebec? There's your problem right there. I don't like cops, but this multicultural shit does not work.
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Well at least nobody lost their head this time....
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Only a matter of time before they round up the immigrants and deport them all.

Unlike us in the USA, they don't worry about being politically correct.
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um - this is the streets of LA every night - please move along.

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