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SOMEONE in this Government of NeoCONs wants the 9th Carrier Strike Fleet destroyed......

 
Shimon Wichelberg
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SOMEONE in this Government of NeoCONs wants the 9th Carrier Strike Fleet destroyed......
Having all those ship locked in such a confined area-in the Straight of Homuz- is sheer suicide, planned by the Neocons for ISRAELS purposes still to be fully revealled;
BUT
Iran is well stocked with Hardened Missle Launch Stations all along the Mersu Mountain range along the coast. These are well hidden and hard to spot
The attack will start on the larger ships and carriers, rendering them useless.
Jets will be of little use. The ships will not be able to retreat even if the can-advanced multi target missles from Russia will stop that in a hurry up to 75% of the fleet could be wiped out
What ever is left will be going in circles in panic, sunk one by one, under orders to stay put.
We may turn Tehran to radioactive glass, the radiation eventually will drifting over NATO and Mid Europe countries, people dying weeks later from radiation poisoning.

But the bulk of the 7th Fleet will be singing "Voyage to the Bottom of the sea"
Someone in our government wants our fleet defeated.

This was something I remember reading in the Navy Times (?) by a retired strategic strike force Commander who outlined exactly how this would happen, an was struck dumb by the sheer idiocy of this move by Bush. This will be Pearl Habor 2 and the start of WW3-this aint really about IRAN....
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Addendum:
Order of Battle of the US/EU Naval Armada
The US Naval forces being assembled include the following:
Carrier Strike Group Nine HorzuTask Force Green

USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN72) nuclear powered supercarrier
with its Carrier Air Wing Two
Destroyer Squadron Nine:
USS Mobile Bay (CG53) guided missile cruiser
USS Russell (DDG59) guided missile destroyer
USS Momsen (DDG92) guided missile destroyer
USS Shoup (DDG86) guided missile destroyer
USS Ford (FFG54) guided missile frigate
USS Ingraham (FFG61) guided missile frigate
USS Rodney M. Davis (FFG60) guided missile frigate
USS Curts (FFG38) guided missile frigate
Plus one or more nuclear hunter-killer submarines

Peleliu Expeditionary Strike Group

USS Peleliu (LHA-5) a Tarawa-class amphibious assault carrier
USS Pearl Harbor (LSD52) assult ship
USS Dubuque (LPD8) assult ship/landing dock
USS Cape St. George (CG71) guided missile cruiser
USS Halsey (DDG97) guided missile destroyer
USS Benfold (DDG65) guided missile destroyer

Carrier Strike Group Two

USS Theodore Roosevelt (DVN71) nuclear powered supercarrier
with its Carrier Air Wing Eight
Destroyer Squadron 22
USS Monterey (CG61) guided missile cruiser
USS Mason (DDG87) guided missile destroyer
USS Nitze (DDG94) guided missile destroyer
USS Sullivans (DDG68) guided missile destroyer

**USS Springfield (SSN761) nuclear powered hunter-killer submarine

IWO ESG ~ Iwo Jima Expeditionary Strike Group
USS Iwo Jima (LHD7) amphibious assault carrier
with its Amphibious Squadron Four
and with its 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit
USS San Antonio (LPD17) assault ship
USS Velia Gulf (CG72) guided missile cruiser
USS Ramage (DDG61) guided missile destroyer
USS Carter Hall (LSD50) assault ship
USS Roosevelt (DDG80) guided missile destroyer

**USS Hartfore (SSN768) nuclear powered hunter-killer submarine

Carrier Strike Group Seven

USS Ronald Reagan (CVN76) nuclear powered supercarrier
with its Carrier Air Wing 14
Destroyer Squadron 7
USS Chancellorsville (CG62) guided missile cruiser
USS Howard (DDG83) guided missile destroyer
USS Gridley (DDG101) guided missile destroyer
USS Decatur (DDG73) guided missile destroyer
USS Thach (FFG43) guided missile frigate
USNS Rainier (T-AOE-7) fast combat support ship

May their souls rest in peace, as their deaths are assured-and part of the plan
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Re: SOMEONE in this Government of NeoCONs wants the 9th Carrier Strike Fleet destroyed......
You are correct. It's what the Bush's & Rove have been preaching since at least the early 70's.

We can only hope that our military commanders realize what is happening, and defy their orders. They need to WAKE UP !
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08/12/2008 10:19 AM
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Re: SOMEONE in this Government of NeoCONs wants the 9th Carrier Strike Fleet destroyed......
And here I have this great desire in me that those ships should be destroyed. The same time this happened was before 9/11.

Anyone else feeling this?
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Re: SOMEONE in this Government of NeoCONs wants the 9th Carrier Strike Fleet destroyed......
And here I have this great desire in me that those ships should be destroyed. The same time this happened was before 9/11.

Anyone else feeling this?
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A great desire in me that those ships be destroyed? Uh, no... a great desire to smack you upside your head and kick you in the nuts is more like it.

Asshole.
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08/12/2008 10:31 AM
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Re: SOMEONE in this Government of NeoCONs wants the 9th Carrier Strike Fleet destroyed......
And here I have this great desire in me that those ships should be destroyed. The same time this happened was before 9/11.

Anyone else feeling this?


A great desire in me that those ships be destroyed? Uh, no... a great desire to smack you upside your head and kick you in the nuts is more like it.

Asshole.
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lmao
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08/12/2008 10:41 AM
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Re: SOMEONE in this Government of NeoCONs wants the 9th Carrier Strike Fleet destroyed......
They can maintain the blockade without the high-value assets being in harm's way. Sunburn missiles are scary, sure.

But the CVNs can sit out of range. Frigates and destroyers will be enforcing any blockade with carrier air wings providing CAP and cruisers protecting the carriers.

It's not as if 3 CVNs and 2 amphibious assault ships with their escorts are all going to crowd in the Gulf.
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Re: SOMEONE in this Government of NeoCONs wants the 9th Carrier Strike Fleet destroyed......
You are correct. It's what the Bush's & Rove have been preaching since at least the early 70's.

We can only hope that our military commanders realize what is happening, and defy their orders. They need to WAKE UP !
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No, you will only sacrifice your oldest and preferably non-nuclear warships, no one wants the Straight of Homuz to become radioactive.
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Re: SOMEONE in this Government of NeoCONs wants the 9th Carrier Strike Fleet destroyed......
Having all those ship locked in such a confined area-in the Straight of Homuz- is sheer suicide, planned by the Neocons for ISRAELS purposes still to be fully revealled;
BUT
Iran is well stocked with Hardened Missle Launch Stations all along the Mersu Mountain range along the coast. These are well hidden and hard to spot
The attack will start on the larger ships and carriers, rendering them useless.
Jets will be of little use. The ships will not be able to retreat even if the can-advanced multi target missles from Russia will stop that in a hurry up to 75% of the fleet could be wiped out
What ever is left will be going in circles in panic, sunk one by one, under orders to stay put.
We may turn Tehran to radioactive glass, the radiation eventually will drifting over NATO and Mid Europe countries, people dying weeks later from radiation poisoning.

 Quoting: Shimon Wichelberg 479089


Says you,

I doubt those commanders would put their ships or themselves at risk.

You don't think they know what they are up against?

You don't think there is any counter to what they are up against?

Iran is in for the shock of it's life if they do indeed to try anything.
"Everybody lies."
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Re: SOMEONE in this Government of NeoCONs wants the 9th Carrier Strike Fleet destroyed......
yep

sure!!!
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Re: SOMEONE in this Government of NeoCONs wants the 9th Carrier Strike Fleet destroyed......
And here I have this great desire in me that those ships should be destroyed. The same time this happened was before 9/11.

Anyone else feeling this?
 Quoting: FAR


What the hell is wrong with you? I don't have the desire that anything or one person should be destroyed. My desire is for this entire mess to resolve peacefully from all sides.

My desire is for the war mongering to cease.
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Re: SOMEONE in this Government of NeoCONs wants the 9th Carrier Strike Fleet destroyed......
And here I have this great desire in me that those ships should be destroyed. The same time this happened was before 9/11.

Anyone else feeling this?
 Quoting: FAR

Are you saying you have a premonition? I had this kind of premonition for 6 weeks before 9-11 seeing Bush with a swastika and Hitler over his face changing and the towers going down but with piercing Cheney eyes leering out in the sky as they fell. The dream said it had to be as too many had agreed but it was for the unveiling but I could amp up intuition for those to not be there and listen within. I tried and tried to get the dream to change.I was off work the day of 9-11 mopping and my Pleaidean contact said "It's happening NOW". As I was supposed to help people go into the Light."turn on your TV". (which over all I do not watch) and at that moment it said we interrupt this program....you know the rest.

Yes, I have this very sickening feeling for all those ships when I saw the list.Yet it has to be to stop this NWO. I am same way sick over it.Sick for all sides. I wish we didn't have to transition to a world resolved to stop wars as any solutions by these means.I wish the capital had listened and not sent them and stood up to blackmail. I wish many things.I wish they listened within and did NOT get on their ships to assist the NWO for their "retirement" which is going to be quicker than they thought. This has to be stopped following these orders of insanity all to control energy of a globe of your particular corporations choosing andnot even needed to be at all.It feels like watch the 16-17th date but more really it feels like 3 weeks from 8-8-8 or could be 6 weeks then massive losses all sides mainly all the fleets gone and with it much of the NWO power.I pray peace making prevails and all the insanity stops and the premonition/dreams seen reading that list and seeing myself reading it all being no more like nuclear involved different than usual like vanishings maybe some new tech. I even have tried to change it the soldiers listen within and flee for refugee status to not do any more war crimes just because they agreed to follow any orders and get rescued themselves.I certainly don't want all these ships to be participating in war crimes upon all humanity fo rtheir retirement or preference of oil energy in their country or their affluent economies or college educations or health care. They get far worse karma doing what they know is wrong to have a nicer life or even "survive". there are far worse things than dying as we ALL each and every one do that but to have a bad conscience or no you had harmed with knowing intent to have retirement, health care, college or even to not be in prisoned for not murdering following an order

I don't think this person necessarily is wanting this in their lower self as I SURE didn't want 9-11 but in the dreams it "had to be" for things to play out and by 2012 get cleaned up and sorted.
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pearl harbor revised.

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