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Wraithwynd User ID: 449681 United States 08/15/2008 03:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Venus never looks as close as the moon. That big bright object in the sky (no not the really bright one) is the moon - its round, goes through phases. Venus never appears as a disk to the naked eye, nor does it appear to be the same size of moon or Sol (the sun). The morning or evening star - that really bright early star that doesn't twinkle - Thats Venus. And you missed the meaning of how many Venuses does it take to equal the diameter of the sun. It is not 'appearent' Venuses - meaning the size of Venus as it appears to be from earth, it means the size of Venus compared to the size of the Sun. Sinkhole list: Thread: Sinkholes Updated 28 Dec 2010 find a sinkhole, add it to this thread, please. "Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him." (1 John 3:15, NKJV). |
Punisher (OP) User ID: 485288 Canada 08/15/2008 12:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Venus never looks as close as the moon. Quoting: WraithwyndVenus never looks as close to the size of the Moon nor the Sun because, Venus, doesn't, EXIST. Venus never appears as a disk to the naked eye, nor does it appear to be the same size of moon or Sol (the sun). Quoting: WraithwyndWhy would the Sun and the Moon who are both spheres appear as disks in the sky and not Venus? The morning or evening star - that really bright early star that doesn't twinkle - Thats Venus. Quoting: WraithwyndVenus would have to be 72% or 3/4 the size of the Sun as seen in our sky, I don't see an object that big, can you show where it is, lol. And you missed the meaning of how many Venuses does it take to equal the diameter of the sun. It is not 'appearent' Venuses - meaning the size of Venus as it appears to be from earth, it means the size of Venus compared to the size of the Sun. Quoting: WraithwyndI got that just right, this is what's frustrating you, live with it! |
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Punisher (OP) User ID: 485288 Canada 08/15/2008 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dude, who really cares??? Quoting: TheChoirmasterI do, no more ILLUSIONS, no more LIES. Now we wake up and smell the coffee, we wake up from this slumber and claim truth back to govern us, the longer we all remain asleep in a fantasy world, the longer the Elites plunder us with debts(LIES), wars(LIES), wages(LIES), etc.... |
Whee! 8D User ID: 479803 Canada 08/15/2008 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't reply here, copy/paste and reply on this thread instead : Thread: ATTENTION: People Of The Earth Planets Don't Exist. <<PROOF>> (Page 13) The world woud be a thousand times better place if more cults existed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 673558 |
LouisWinthorpeIII User ID: 384893 United States 08/15/2008 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You know what? Yeah you're right, the world is a flat board on the back of a giant turtle. Computers don't exist for that matter. "I don't know which was scarier...the speech...or the Congress cheering it. He evoked Lincoln. Whenever a President is going to get us into serious trouble...they always use Lincoln." -2010 |
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LouisWinthorpeIII User ID: 384893 United States 08/15/2008 02:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | next thing he will say is that jello is used in nuclear weapons Quoting: Anonymous Coward 483882Jello *IS* a nuclear weapon!!! Oh, and black is white, and white is black! Up is down, and down is left..... "I don't know which was scarier...the speech...or the Congress cheering it. He evoked Lincoln. Whenever a President is going to get us into serious trouble...they always use Lincoln." -2010 |
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nomuse (NLI) User ID: 484360 United States 08/15/2008 02:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You know what? Quoting: LouisWinthorpeIIIYeah you're right, the world is a flat board on the back of a giant turtle. Computers don't exist for that matter. :tellmemoar: You left out the elephants. Or are you of the other faith, the Testudo Funditus (turtles all the way down)? |
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Punisher (OP) User ID: 460148 Canada 08/15/2008 03:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Punisher: Come on GOD, answer me. For years I'm asking why, why are science lies so gullible? Where is justice? Where is punishment? Or have you already answered, have you already said to the World here is justice, here is punishment, here, in ME. |
nomuse (NLI) User ID: 484360 United States 08/15/2008 06:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lies = "Disagrees with me." Gullible = "Agrees with someone who disagrees with me." Punishment = "Torture for daring to disagree with me." Justice = "The people who disagreed with me got punished." And of course; Science = "Something I don't understand. That disagrees with me." |
Punisher (OP) User ID: 485484 Canada 08/15/2008 07:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Sun & the Moon are the same size. 1ENOCH. Chapter 77: [1]The names of the sun are these: one Aryares, the other Tomas. [2]The moon has four names. The first is Asonya; the second, Ebla; the third, Benase; and the fourth, Erae. [3]These are the two great luminaries, whose orbs are as the orbs of heaven; and the dimensions of both are equal. |
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nomuse (NLI) User ID: 484360 United States 08/15/2008 07:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Sun & the Moon are the same size. Quoting: Punisher1ENOCH. Chapter 77: [1]The names of the sun are these: one Aryares, the other Tomas. [2]The moon has four names. The first is Asonya; the second, Ebla; the third, Benase; and the fourth, Erae. [3]These are the two great luminaries, whose orbs are as the orbs of heaven; and the dimensions of both are equal. Which makes those bearded jackasses you are quoting doubly blind, because Greeks living hundreds of years before them realized clearly that the sun had to be bigger than the Moon. Even the slightest scrap of logic or observation would tell you that! (How much bigger, they didn't know. It's difficult to get a good idea without telescopes, and the ability to observe transits. But that it is bigger, is obvious to anyone with two rocks, two arms, and two seconds to spare to hold them up in front of his eyes.) |
Punisher (OP) User ID: 485484 Canada 08/15/2008 08:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Which makes those bearded jackasses you are quoting doubly blind, because Greeks living hundreds of years before them realized clearly that the sun had to be bigger than the Moon. Even the slightest scrap of logic or observation would tell you that! Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 484360Until yesterday you believed in PLANETS, you pretended to see Venus, now you try to defend those lies with an ancient civilization, how desperate have those who once believed in science become? No my friend, the Sun & Moon are the same size. GOD says so! |
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ambiguity unlimited User ID: 483664 United States 08/15/2008 08:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Which makes those bearded jackasses you are quoting doubly blind, because Greeks living hundreds of years before them realized clearly that the sun had to be bigger than the Moon. Even the slightest scrap of logic or observation would tell you that! Quoting: PunisherUntil yesterday you believed in PLANETS, you pretended to see Venus, now you try to defend those lies with an ancient civilization, how desperate have those who once believed in science become? No my friend, the Sun & Moon are the same size. GOD says so! dude, you really dont have a clue......venus cant be observed as a sphere to the naked eye because of its distance....i see it every night, have observed it through telescopes(where it does indeed appear as a sphere)...the brilliance of the reflected light from it's surface obscures it's shape to the naked eye.....havent you noticed that venus doesnt "twinkle" like the distant stars? that happens because the stars are producing light, whereas venus only reflects it(from the sun).....the moon, and ol' mac daddy sol are far from the same size, otherwise a solar eclipse would block the sunlight to the entire world at totality(it doesnt, by the way)....you can convince yourself of whatever you like, but it's going to be a long hard road for you to convince anyone that isnt still in the 3rd grade, or profoundly retarded that your theory even merits consideration......maybe you should go back to your old hobby of sniffing glue while assembling "revel" models...... |
hey amigo User ID: 473527 Canada 08/15/2008 08:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [~] = divide bye! Quoting: Punisher[x] = times bye! ILLUSION 1: Venus (diameter) 12,103.6 km ~ Moon (diameter) 3476 km = 3.4820 times larger then Moon, for Venus to look the same size of the Sun as the Moon does from Earth, we would have to calculate the distance of the Moon from the Earth and multiply it 3.4820 times. Venus is 3.4820 times larger then the Moon, therefore, a distance 3.4820 times away from Earth is needed to create the same optical illusion the Moon does with the Sun. Moon distance from Earth: 384,400 km x 3.4820 = 1,338,480.8 km. Venus would have to be 1,338,480.8 kilometers away from Earth to look the same size of the Sun as the Moon does from Earth. And since the Earth is 149,600,000 km away from the Sun, Venus would have to orbit at 148,261,519.2 from the Sun. [149,600,000] - [1,338,480.8] = 148,261,519.2 km. Science-fiction tells us that Venus occupies the 108,200,000 km position from the Sun, a (difference) of 40,061,519.2 km from Earth, if we take the (hypothetical orbit) of where Venus would appear to have the same size of the Sun from Earth (1,338,480.8 km) and divide it with the (difference) we'd have an approximate of what Venus really looks like in size when viewed from Earth compared to the Sun in her original orbit. 40,061,519.2 (divided) by 1,338,480.8 = 29.93 Venus in her original orbital position loses 30% the size of the Sun as it appears on Earth in our skies. The Scientistic Radicals will argue that Venus fits 114.84 times along the Sun’s diameter and that to cover the whole surface disk area of the Sun you would need 13,189 images of Venus, this is incorrectly false, here is the proof of that confusing and deceptive scientific lie. If you would for a moment consider Venus in her hypothetical orbit around Earth where she creates the optical illusion of being the same size as the Sun appears in our skies, Venus at this orbit would appear 100% the same size of the Sun, would fill in all the imaginary 13,189 surface area disk of the Sun. When Venus reassumes her original orbit a certain percentage of that optic, a certain amount of those imaginary surface area disk slots are lost. Lets calculate what percentage and how many surface area disk slots Venus retains in her 108,200,000 km position from the Sun. ILLUSION 2: On the percentage scale starting at (zero) being the Sun, Venus is 1/13,189 the size of the Sun and all the way-out to her hypothetical orbit of (148,261,519.2) being a 100 percent of the Sun’s size as seen on Earth. When resuming to her original orbit at 108,200,000 km Venus would lose a certain percentage of that optic when viewed from Earth, to calculate that lose we’ll put the hypothetical orbit on a percentage scale and divide into her original position from the Sun. 108,200,000 km ~ 148,261,519.2 km = 72.97% Venus RETAINS in size compared to our Sun as it appears like in our skies. OPTICS ______________________________________________________________________________ ILLUSION 3: On the imaginary surface area disk scale Venus is 1/13,189 the size of the Sun and when in her hypothetical orbit (148,261,519.2) Venus covers all the imaginary 13,189 [V] slots, when resuming to her original orbit at 108,200,000 km again a certain amount of these “slots” are lost. Lets calculate how many slots Venus retains when resuming her original position. 13,189 (slots) ~ 148,261,519.2 (km) = 0.000088957 slots per kilometer. 0.000088957 x 108,200,000 (km) = 9,625.1474 slots/13,189 9,622 ~ 13,189 = (72.97%) When viewing the planet named Venus (optically) she would have the appearance of almost 3/4 the size of our Sun as seen in OUR sky. Whatever ILLUSION you choose, remember that GOD’S light shines for everyone, this is my ILLUSION of Venus. [link to img114.imageshack.us] Regards, The Punisher. thats one way of seeing thats its an illusion, here is another. [link to pastebin.com] |
Punisher (OP) User ID: 485484 Canada 08/15/2008 08:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Punisher....the man out-thought by two rocks! Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 484360By the way, fool, I have honestly documented my efforts to view Venus this week -- which so far have resulted in no sighting. However, my efforts to view Jupiter were amply rewarded. Those two rocks came out of your head, read the O-P, there are no planets, we'd see Venus and Mercury in OUR skies. |
nomuse (NLI) User ID: 484360 United States 08/15/2008 08:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | dude, you really dont have a clue......venus cant be observed as a sphere to the naked eye because of its distance....i see it every night, have observed it through telescopes(where it does indeed appear as a sphere)...the brilliance of the reflected light from it's surface obscures it's shape to the naked eye.....havent you noticed that venus doesnt "twinkle" like the distant stars? that happens because the stars are producing light, whereas venus only reflects it(from the sun).....the moon, and ol' mac daddy sol are far from the same size, otherwise a solar eclipse would block the sunlight to the entire world at totality(it doesnt, by the way)....you can convince yourself of whatever you like, but it's going to be a long hard road for you to convince anyone that isnt still in the 3rd grade, or profoundly retarded that your theory even merits consideration......maybe you should go back to your old hobby of sniffing glue while assembling "revel" models...... Quoting: ambiguity unlimitedTo be precise (to quote from Mssr's Thompson and Thomson), stars twinkle because of their angular size. Essentially, one molecule of air can distort the light. Planets have a larger visual area, even if they are too small to resolve to a disc with the naked eye, and thus smooth out these atmospheric distortions. But you've got it right about the sun and the moon. As the Greeks reasoned, if the sun is behind the moon but still looks the same size, it must be at least a little bigger. Look at the other movements the Moon is capable of (how far it can get from the sun), and even if you take a geocentric reference frame you still end up with a sun significantly larger than your moon. |
nomuse (NLI) User ID: 484360 United States 08/15/2008 08:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Those two rocks came out of your head, read the O-P, there are no planets, we'd see Venus and Mercury in OUR skies. Quoting: PunisherI thought you were the OP. Time to clean out your sock drawer? I've seen Venus, Jupiter, and Mars on many a night. Saturn less frequently these days (I'm living in a light-polluted area now). Jupiter will be out there tonight, rising I believe about two hours after the Moon. Look up if you have any courage in your convictions. Or are you afraid your Sky Fairy will punish you if you doubt him for even a moment? |
FallenAwaken User ID: 485407 United Kingdom 08/15/2008 08:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to static.metal-archives.com] "Pray for solace..Pray for resolve..Pray for a savior..Pray for deliverance..Some kind of purpose..A glimpse of a LIGHT in this VOID OF EXISTENCE..Now witness the END of an age..Hope dies in hands of believers..Who seek the truth in the LIAR'S EYE" "The greatest TRICK the Devil ever pulled was not convincing the world he doesn't exist..But convincing it that he is GOD" "I have no pleasure in any man who despises music. It is no invention of ours: It is a gift of GOD. I place it next to theology. Satan hates music: He knows how it drives the EVIL spirit OUT of US." - Martin Luther "What have I done?..Where have I come from?..When I burnt the backs with the SUN through a GLASS..Did I SEAL the loss that's become me?.. Feeling undone..What have I become? ..When I turned my back on you..I turned my back on MYSELF and became this MACHINE" "What you IGNORE now..Will come OUT of YOU later" "Stones to throw at my Creator.. MASOCHISTS to which I cater..You don't need to bother..I don't need to be..I'll keep slipping farther.. But once I hold on..I won't let go 'til it BLEEDS" |
Punisher (OP) User ID: 485484 Canada 08/15/2008 08:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | dude, you really dont have a clue......venus cant be observed as a sphere to the naked eye because of its distance....i see it every night, have observed it through telescopes(where it does indeed appear as a sphere)... Quoting: ambiguity unlimitedSure it would, if it existed it would be seen as a sphere, because the Sun and the Moon are seen as spheres so would Venus, you'd see a sphere floating around blue skies 3/4 the size of our Sun as we see it right here on GOD'S green Earth. the moon, and ol' mac daddy sol are far from the same size, otherwise a solar eclipse would block the sunlight to the entire world at totality(it doesnt, by the way).... Quoting: ambiguity unlimitedAny light bulb is the size of my hand, if I put my hand in front of a lit bulb it covers the diameter of the bulb but the room doesn't go dark. Why are you still trying to deceive people with this mental masturbation, did you think this fairytale called science would forever deceive the minds of people? Did you not think that GOD would send someone like me to tell of the truth? Stop lying!!!!! you can convince yourself of whatever you like, but it's going to be a long hard road for you to convince anyone that isnt still in the 3rd grade, or profoundly retarded that your theory even merits consideration......maybe you should go back to your old hobby of sniffing glue while assembling "revel" models...... Quoting: ambiguity unlimitedYou should stop drinking the BONG water, and school has PRETZELIZED your brain, but its never too late for recovery, read the O-P over and over again eventually your mind will free itself and you'll see the light. GOD is watching and HE is getting the Angels ready, you've been warned. |
nomuse (NLI) User ID: 484360 United States 08/15/2008 09:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GOD is watch and HE is getting the Angels ready, you've been warned. Quoting: PunisherBring 'em on. If they're as clueless as you we'll send them home with their pockets empty, their heads reeling, and nice new deeds to the Brooklyn Bridge clenched in their hands. |
Punisher (OP) User ID: 485484 Canada 08/15/2008 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I thought you were the OP. Time to clean out your sock drawer? Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 484360I've seen Venus, Jupiter, and Mars on many a night. Saturn less frequently these days (I'm living in a light-polluted area now). Jupiter will be out there tonight, rising I believe about two hours after the Moon. Look up if you have any courage in your convictions. Or are you afraid your Sky Fairy will punish you if you doubt him for even a moment? I keep my socks on shelves I'm not afraid to hide them like some, and you can't prove that planets exist because I've disproved their existence with mathematical "assertion" and I selected this word carefully because I made a big ASS out of science. I thought I told you that I'd never stop! The BEST in the business!!!!!!! |