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The Final Call; FULLNESS OF TIME (from Final Call of Australia)

 
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The Final Call; FULLNESS OF TIME (from Final Call of Australia)
[Nota bene: I am not Final Call. dinosaurex lives in America; Final Call lives in Australia.]

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Final Call:

"The Lords word to the world.

"In the beginning it was I the Lord who created the heavens and the earth. I created ALL that you see. With love I formed the trees, the animals, the birds and the seas inhabitants. With love I breathed my life into all that has breath. It was with infinite love that I formed you...Mankind..in MY image. It was with Love that I gave you dominion over the world I had created for you. The stars..the endless galaxies you now behold...the endless galaxies in their untold mirriads beyond number...I created for you to appreciate..to behold My power and My Love.

It was with Love that I laid the foundations of the heavens. It was with Love for you..before I formed you from the dust...that I purposed that you would become my brethren..my relatives in spirit...my kindred. My purposes still hold and now..at the end of the ages I stand here now to tell you..Mankind..that I will show you very shortly just who I am. For you Mankind have forgotten Me..Your Lord and Creator. The enemy has served my purposes well in making this happen for I did NOT want a race of robots..But for YOU..Mankind..to have free choice. Love is never forced..it is chosen and Love by its very definition is an action..not a feeling.

Mankind has chosen to rebel. This is why I sent my Son Jesus..Immanuel..to show you the way and to pay the debt you could not. It tore my heart to see My Son die by your hands. But with Love He laid His life down so you could choose..if you willed it..to HAVE true Life..forever. Sin has no power over you except that which you give it by NOT choosing to accept the sacrifice of My Son. In your world of today sin has become a word of days gone by. What used to be sin is now the order of the day. What used to be frowned upon only a century ago is now called "good". Mankind..you have chosen to reject My Son and embrace the lies of My enemy. BUT..this was my purpose.

In rejecting me by insisting on your own will I have the means to show you what real love and forgiveness is. Without desolation there can BE no restoration. Without pain, pleasantness cannot be appreciated. Without rebellion forgiveness means nothing. Thus I have watched you..My beloved creation..fall..in order to let you see that sin and pleasures that you call "good" will only kill you and seperate you from me forever..by an act of YOUR will..not mine. For it is NOT my will that any should perish. I take NO pleasure in the deaths of even the most wicked and evil.

Through the years I have watched and anticipated this time. How I have longed for this moment when I can show you..Mankind..that I DO exist..and not only do I exist..I LOVE YOU. I love you with a passion. I love you so much that I let you kill my only Son in order for YOUR salvation to be purchased.
If it was NOT for my Love..Mankind would have perished form the face of the earth altogether. It is MY grace and my love which has stopped many events that would have prematurley ended your reign upon the earth. It was MY love for you that kept many diseases in check so they would not spread across the planet and kill you all. It was MY love for you that has held nature back from serving the recompense to you that Mankind has asked for.

My world..which I created for you..is in much pain and longs to be free of the degradation which mankind has and is inflicting upon it. It groans under the weight of the devastations mankind inflicts.
Soon my creation will be healed and soon evil will be utterly banished from the earth for the next day.
My Beloved Mankind...how I long for the end..when I stand with you..the redeemed ones who choose to accept my offer of salvation..upon the new earth I will make for you when the last day is done.

But now..to the present time. I have given much time and had much patience with the wicked. I have let the rain fall on both good and evil. Both eat and both drink. But the time comes now when the rains will NOT fall..and there will BE no food...and your only recourse will be in me..your LORD. I will reveal myself to the world so you will KNOW who it is you must run to in the days ahead when the good times come to a sudden end. The worlds system will offer you much to keep you from running to me..they will mark you and enslave you and doom you in the process. DO NOT take their mark..for it is a choice of eternal consequences.

I am not an angry God..but I AM a JUST God. I must meet justice and give her what she demands. But justice is tempered with mercy and that is why the time will be shortened or none of you will live to see MY Government..when I show the world what a HOLY Government run by MY Son can accomplish.
Can you imagine never fearing?..NO hunger..all peace and Love..all perfection and no worries about bills and stress and time and work and such things as you chase after NOW?
Imagine a world where your children can grow strong and healthy and NOT die. Where they are safe from ALL harm and have nothing but Love for all.

This is YOUR future IF YOU CHOOSE IT!

Its real and its NOT a myth as most of you are taught now in your schools and on your TV's. I am real and I DO love you and I plan for as many who may come to share in my love for you and in the new world for eternity I will create for you. No more tears and no more pain and joy..JOY..always and forever at the un ending vista's of incredible beauty that is my entire creation both seen and unseen.
A NEW heavens..and a NEW earth..my purposes and the mystery fulfilled.

But I must warn you My beloved Mankind..that you cannot inherit My kingdom unless you believe in My Son Jesus who died so you could HAVE this choice. Without My Son..and the shedding of HIS Blood..there is no remission of Sin. No one can come to me except through My son. And whom my Son accepts as a brother..I accept as a Son. Choose well and choose soon for Mankinds time is now over.
There is no more delay. I come to take back my beloved planet in total. I have the deed to the planet..and I return to claim it. But before the new Kingdom can be established I MUST root out all evil and pour my justice out on those who destroy the earth.

What mankind has sown is about to be reaped. Mankind has sown the wind and will now reap the whirlwind. Mankind has sown destruction and will now reap desolation. In this time of reaping My wrath will be with held back in order for as many of you as will choose to do so will take your place at my side and refuse the system of the world. I will make it easy for millions to choose me because there will be no comforts left in the world except Me and no doubt that I AM who I say I AM. I will show you just how much I love..and the entire world will hear the Gospel of My Beloved Son Jesus before the great Day of my wrath.

Many upheavals are coming shortly to your world...Birthpains...many disasters and many signs in the sun and the mooon and in the stars. I will not allow these things to begin without warning signs. I promised to do this and I have been. Have you not noticed the many comets I have sent into the sun in recent years? Have you failed to notice the vast amount of stellar events in recent years? I have even hushed the sun..and calmed it..before it goes wild to give you time to notice. But shortly, for those who have no internet and no access to this information..I will send a visible sign for all the world to behold and wonder at..and you will KNOW there is a GOD in heaven.

There will be signs upon the earth as well. I will not leave you without notice or chance. I LOVE you all..and I dont WANT to see any suffer but like wayward children many WILL suffer for justice will be served by your own hand..reaping what you have sown. MY wrath will only be poured out once the righteous and those who chose me even in the midst of great troubles are removed. Then my wrath will be poured out...the moon will become blood red..the sun will cease its light..and a great and mighty hail will pummel your world..and reduce everything evil to rubble. For the ones left will not only KNOW I AM..but they will curse me to my face and refuse to repent. Thus I will pour my wrath upon the wicked and end forever the reign of evil.

I know many will ignore this warning. That is why I will give a sign in the heavens to show you I mean what I say. IN addition I will persoanlly reveal myself to ALL who repent from this time forward. This is the day..from this time..salvation will be more than repentance...it will be accomplished with a meeting with me that will leave those converted so utterly converted that NO persecution will sway them...What is mine will STAY mine. Mankind..when you believe upon MY SON..you will see ME..and I will show you who I AM.

So now brace yourselves Beloved Mankind..brace yourselves because your world will rock to and fro as drunk. The nations will rise up and terrible wars will be fought and many will perish. Food will vanish from your shelves and all luxuries will cease..and a days pay will only purchase a small loaf of bread. UNLESS you are Mine I cannot provide NOR protect because you choose to ignore my offer. I hold out my arms with Love but I will NOT go against your free will. COME to me Mankind..accept my Love..accept my provision..for I wish only that ALL of you would come. I formed each and every one of you. Not ONE HUMAN who has ever lived was a mistake..you have meaning and purpose IF you choose my ways of LOVE...and the ways My Son Jesus showed you two days ago.(two thousand years ago)

So the choice is yours beloved creation. I will allow conditions of the world from this day to decline. Many will become desperate in the days ahead..and as a result many will choose Me because safety will be found NO where else....except under my wings. You will know I am there..I will not leave you ignorant and I will remove the scales from over your eyes in an act of sovereign will to give you a fair chance to choose. Deception will be lifted from you long enough to give you a good long look at the two paths available to you.


When you stand before My throne...NO one will be able to say " I did not know"..for I am about to remove that excuse from mankind forever..for ALL will know I AM..and thus have a fair and FREE choice..to serve and follow Me..or to serve and follow Satan. There is no other choice..but you have FREE choice..GOOD..or EVIL.

In LOVE I say now...come. Whosoever is thirsty..I will give freely from the river of the water of LIFE.
I say again COME..and I will grant you the right once more to the tree of life.
And once more..and finally I say..COME..and you will live for eternity in JOY and GLORY unbounded.

IF ONLY..you will choose and follow me."


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(Today, 7:53 AM)

Final Call:

"I will also add this Plea From my very first post here. The final plea to the sheep. Its over a year old now..but NEVER has this particular word been more urgent.

One year ago there was time..now there is but seconds left.

THIS word is from Jesus...not the Father.

"PLEASE children..please..come in from the darkness now. Its time to shut the door and I must do what I have decreed in ages past. I bled for you..I died for you..and I would have done it if you were the ONLY one to ever exist..EVEN if I knew in my omnipotence that you would STILL reject me..my great love for you would still have sent me to the cross..to die for you. I would have handed you the hammer and the nails myself if I had to..all for you..just to give you the merest CHANCE to accept my love. Oh dont you yet see how great my love is? Cannot you yet fathom why my heart breaks now? I have called..and called..and called some more..in the hope that just one more might come in to the wedding feast with me."

"So many called..so few chosen. But you knew..you heard..and I gave plenty of time for my love to filter through if you had but given it a chance. I have watched over you all..my dear sheep..as a shepherd should..even knowing there were wolves in the flock..because even a wolf can be turned into a sheep if it chooses to turn. DONT you understand yet even as I close the door..that there is NO sin so GREAT..that my love is not GREATER!! Please..the latch is about to click shut..and I must be true to my own word. I must now begin what I told John about on that lonley wind swept isle so many centuries ago. It is time now for the sheep to enter into the fold for the winter comes with its final storm."
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Thank you. As I suspected, THE DOOM is truly all about THE LOVE. God is calling us to Himself! He knows our "lifestyles" and "bank accounts" and "cable TV" and "long commutes" are meaningless. He is going to get our attention because it's the ONLY way left to get people to make a truly informed choice. Cling to your lives, or cling to God. I choose God! Thanks for the update.
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This post must be true. Its all about love. No anger and no judging. Its all love and genuine concern of the type that a God of love would show.

I read it and read it again. I am not a typical "christian" but I am tempted to become a "follower" of the God who wrote the above post because its love.

I am so sick to death of prophecies of doom and almost an eargerness by "christians" to see destruction visited on the world in self righteous hate of all that is not of "them".

For once I believe a prophecy.
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Why, oh why, I lament, has the darkness seeped into the soul of man, to this, the point of desolation?

Why have the acts of a few brought this pain to bear?

Why have these arcane despots been allowed to flourish?

Stan Deyo wrote of this very circumstance years ago.

Why cant we humans shrug off this evil, and show God

We can live in love

We can live in peace

My fervent prayer is that we can pray the doom away.

Big drops of love.
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This is a very hopeful and positive message. I hope it is true. I also hope all innocents, including animals, are taken home first.

I know what my choice is and I am ready. I have two dependents, and I will stay with them no matter what. Both are innocents, and it is my life's purpose to care and provide for them.

I wonder if the visible sign is the cross in the sky made from clouds after three days of darkness/rain?

It seems related to the Garabandal apparitions, but it's been a long time since I read those.
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This is a very hopeful and positive message. I hope it is true. I also hope all innocents, including animals, are taken home first.

I know what my choice is and I am ready. I have two dependents, and I will stay with them no matter what. Both are innocents, and it is my life's purpose to care and provide for them.

I wonder if the visible sign is the cross in the sky made from clouds after three days of darkness/rain?

It seems related to the Garabandal apparitions, but it's been a long time since I read those.
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Does THIS count?

Its happenned today I think.

No crop circle liike it ever. I dont think aliens would paint a cross do you? and especially not one made out of interlocked eights.

The day after the 15th is the 16th. Two eights. The year..2008. The month..the 8th.

The Lords number 888

New beginnings =8

Just TOO TRIPPY!

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This is a very hopeful and positive message. I hope it is true. I also hope all innocents, including animals, are taken home first.

I know what my choice is and I am ready. I have two dependents, and I will stay with them no matter what. Both are innocents, and it is my life's purpose to care and provide for them.

I wonder if the visible sign is the cross in the sky made from clouds after three days of darkness/rain?

It seems related to the Garabandal apparitions, but it's been a long time since I read those.

Does THIS count?

Its happenned today I think.

No crop circle liike it ever. I dont think aliens would paint a cross do you? and especially not one made out of interlocked eights.

The day after the 15th is the 16th. Two eights. The year..2008. The month..the 8th.

The Lords number 888

New beginnings =8

Just TOO TRIPPY!

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WOW! Thanks, AC! That is so beautiful it took my breath away. Amazing and holy!
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Enough of this "feel good" fantasy. Who needs or wants religion when it was all created by those very real and living human beings who rule us, the global power elites. Even the language used is so telling---the kingdom. I don't want your god because it is just another system of control and the most ugly of all because it is subtle mind control. Free your mind from all this claptrap and be the beautiful human being you were born to be. The true spirit of life is thoughtful, considered rebellion! Not submission to a higher power.
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And so it begins...
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God does not have son. That Blasphemy is in direct contrast to the first commandment 'Thou shall worship none but Me'

The Prophets of God from Adam to John the Baptist did not worship anyone but God, nor did they believe God has a son. This is like the saying of the pagans, who make wives, sons and daughters to their idols
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Ok, that was written well. But how did the messenger get the message? Or does the messenger imply he/she/it is God?
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[Nota bene: I am not Final Call. dinosaurex lives in America; Final Call lives in Australia.]

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Final Call:

"The Lords word to the world.

In rejecting me by insisting on your own will I have the means to show you what real love and forgiveness is...
NO pleasure in the deaths of even the most wicked and evil.

Through the years I have watched and anticipated this time. How I have longed for this moment when I can show you..Mankind..that I DO exist..and not only do I exist..I LOVE YOU. I love you with a passion. I love you so much that I let you kill my only Son in order for YOUR salvation to be purchased.

If it was NOT for my Love..Mankind would have perished form the face of the earth altogether. It is MY grace and my love which has stopped many events that would have prematurley ended your reign upon the earth. It was MY love for you that kept many diseases in check so they would not spread across the planet and kill you all. It was MY love for you that has held nature back from serving the recompense to you that Mankind has asked for.

My world..which I created for you..is in much pain and longs to be free of the degradation which mankind has and is inflicting upon it. It groans under the weight of the devastations mankind inflicts.
Soon my creation will be healed and soon evil will be utterly banished from the earth for the next day.
My Beloved Mankind...how I long for the end..when I stand with you..the redeemed ones who choose to accept my offer of salvation..upon the new earth I will make for you when the last day is done.

I am not an angry God..but I AM a JUST God. I must meet justice and give her what she demands. But justice is tempered with mercy and that is why the time will be shortened or none of you will live to see MY Government..when I show the world what a HOLY Government run by MY Son can accomplish.
Can you imagine never fearing?..NO hunger..all peace and Love..all perfection and no worries about bills and stress and time and work and such things as you chase after NOW?
Imagine a world where your children can grow strong and healthy and NOT die. Where they are safe from ALL harm and have nothing but Love for all.

...

But I must warn you My beloved Mankind..that you cannot inherit My kingdom unless you believe in My Son Jesus who died so you could HAVE this choice. Without My Son..and the shedding of HIS Blood..there is no remission of Sin. No one can come to me except through My son.

"

 Quoting: dinosaurex



This whole first message is long. I've cut out some parts to make a point.

SOMEONE TELL ME THE DIFFERENCE between this tripe and the shite that vomits out of the mouths of those declaring a Jihad? THIS God promises safety and peace for our children instead of virgins...

THIS God has watched and prepared for destruction.
THIS God has a gateway that sounds SO MUCH LIKE power mongering.
Just because there are no out and out threatening words, does NOT MEAN this is all about love!
THIS God still uses leverage.
THIS God is still man made.
THIS GOD IS NOT THE CREATOR!
THIS God is a figment of someone's imagination based on Contemporary Christian teachings!

My world..which I created for you..is in much pain and longs to be free of the degradation which mankind has and is inflicting upon it. It groans under the weight of the devastations mankind inflicts.


THIS quote above is the only sensible thing that is said. This world can only be healed if we stop war-mongering and wasting. The consequences of hate are destructive behaviors that cause pain to ALL HUMANS!

WAKE UP! If "Christians" busied themselves with kindness, there would be no room for this kind of prophetic BS! The same could be said for ANY radical religious zealot.

THIS MESSAGE FROM "FINAL CALL" IS NOT THE "LORD'S WORD TO THE WORLD"!

LOOK AT it!, causing slobbering and drooling for things that are myth! LOOK AT it relinquishing responsibility for personal accountability. HOW CLEVER to be able to blame God for destruction. HOW LAME to pawn off your own accountability onto "THE DEVIL'S" back!

OP
Thanks for posting this! You have exposed darkness that calls itself light...Every reader of these words would be OUTRAGED if this had (for example) come from an Islamic camp.
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Glory Bound has provided her reply. (I italicized and bolded text for emphasis.)

Glory Bound:

"MY ANSWER TO FINAL CALLS POST.

All that Final Call said in this post has already started over a year ago when God, turned His face against America, storms, food/ hunger wars and rumors of war. The fires/ floods and storms have grown worse over the last year and a half. The world has decided they can do without God and His beloved Son Jesus Christ. morals seemed to be flushed away into the sewer. God is angry and His fury is about to be unleashed. Yes He is Mercy/ Love and Grace, but He is also the Judge of this world and to fall into the hands of an ANGRY GOD, will be an awesome thing to see.

The age of the gentiles is coming to an end, the Church has through Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit and God our Father, helt back the dam of evil that is growing daily. This world has
a blanket of darkness descending and invading all the four corners, it will be total only after we, the Saints have been taken out through the Rapture of the Bride, that day is upon us People,
it can come any day,

There are evil men/women hiding behind doors in every City in America, waiting for the go ahead to attack this country and her people and to bring her to her knees. A evil that wants
all to worship a strange god, not the God of our Father's whom founded this great nation and many are taking that path to their own demise.


There has been an agreement signed, maybe last night or this morning I am not sure of, only know it took place, it will cause great pain and much anger among men.

Those in power seek more power, those with money seek more money, nothing is ever enough, when it is followed by self/ ego. Some men have the mistaken idea they can rule and live forever here on this earth, but man's days are numbered, no matter how high and mighty one may think he/she is,
there comes a day of accountability, that day is coming and soon.

There is not, that much time left to get right with Jesus Christ, He is coming after His bride, a bride that is spotless and blameless, a holy church, a church not made of wood/stone or manmade fibers, no, it is a church of blood, pure sinless blood of the lamb of God, Jesus Christ, who took the sin of the whole world upon Himself, that is Mercy, that is Love and that is for all eternity, but only to him that will seek the Lord, He is easy to find.


The flood-gate of God's wrath is about to swing open, The only way out is through Jesus Christ."

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Enjoy a last treat or two before it hits! Cuz it be hitting soon!
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*shakes head*
(edit: in amazement and disbelief of the level of ignorance)
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"There are evil men/women hiding behind doors in every City in America, waiting for the go ahead to attack this country and her people and to bring her to her knees."

Well let's just say since 911 Americans are more willing to fight back against terrorists than ever. Look at the guy trying to light his foot on a jet several years ago, he got jumped by a bunch of angry americans!

Of course there is no defense against car bombs or the like as these cowards will probably resort to stuff like that as they would get their ass kicked if they tried taking over a plane (or something like that).

I am praying that the authorities start snuffing these groups out as I am sure some of them are being watched.

Bush needs to get our troops the heck out of Iraq and back here to protect the citizens here.
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I stopped reading this unabashedly unashamed BULLSHIT where the OP writes that "the enemy has served me well, I did not want a race of robots".

What fucking bullshit!


God does not call satan HIS enemy for nothing!

We were born with free-will and God places HIS Calling upon those hearts as HE Wills. It is up to each person to act, to Hear The Gospel, Hear HIS Truth, Know Who Jesus IS and Lift Up The Son of Man!

Those who cannot do so, are unable to Come Unto The Father; but Love Christ Jesus are not lost!
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More evidence that all save The Very Elect are already deceived and deluded.
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You relly dont have a clue do you Lester?

You say a TRUE christian does not need to read their bibles. You mock and sneer at anything that does not add up to YOUR oh so perfect insight. You have pride and arrogance seeping out of every pore on you body and you say clear rubbish again and again...with a bit of a filthy mouth too. Not a very christian or holy attitude in anyones eyes.



One day you will mock one too many times and spout crap one too many times. Then you will meet this "HIM" you keep babbling about as though he were just a HIM..and not LORD.

If the OP is correct, you are in a LOT of trouble.
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I love the carnal-hearted indignation. Imagine the nerve of someone who says he's Born-Again, giving witness and telling we who are so smugly righteous in our carnality, that our way is not Christ Jesus' Way.

Yet, your way is not HIS Way.
Maybe you were invited to the Wedding Feast? Maybe not. Yet in your carnal-hearted condition, pursuing God as you define HIM, you are just too fucking busy to answer HIS Call.

Work your iniquity you self-willed bags of crap, then knock and be ready to hear, "...I Know you not!"

Just can't understand, can you? That Abiding In-HIM is not a matter of religion or Bible Study/Reading.

My Knowledge of The Bible was Given to me by The Holy Spirit. Amazing what God will Witness to you, IF you are doing HIS Will; which from 2/29/04 at 11pm, until 4/9/04 at 10:30pm I was. 40 days and 40 nights to the hour of witness. Never had posted or given public witness before. Never was Given to do so. Yet for 40/40 I was on fire with witness and then the morning of the 10th, no more witness would come. It took about a week to understand that my emphasis was to shift.

Oh well, it is in the archives. THIS IS IT! THE TIME IS NOW! is the thread title, and it is what The Father Told me on 2/25/04.

Over six thousand witnesses since, and hundreds of threads.
Not one about "need to prepare", all about HIM and your need to make your surrender etc.

I should dredge up the Christian Rebuke thread, and Why Born-Again Christians Do Not Continue To Sin thread.

All you damned carnal-hearted Bastards love your sin and therefore argue on that one. You don't realize your very words convict you, but what can you tell someone who is mad in the delusion of self???

Every Born-Again Knows the delusions of self, maybe not in the vernacular I use, but I've found every Born-Again Christian I've met in person or shared witness with has the same or similar experiences I've had Of The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. It's like going to a family reunion and sharing your rememberances of a great aunt or uncle with a cousin you never met before, but who knew your relative as well as you did. You each Know the nature of the person and their mannerisms and character. Same way with meeting another Born-Again. First John is the best example I can think of. Only the carnal-hearts argue about what John is Witnessing there.

Think God is worried about anyone dying?

Lemme tell you, once the Rev 14:7 Angel Witnesses, there will be no more Martyrs. Their death will no longer Serve HIM. No one to Witness their Strength In-HIM to after everyone Knows HE IS Real!

Ah well, plenty for you to argue with or disparage above. That is your carnal-hearts fulltime mission, to insulate and keep you away from God. Evidently your carnality is doing a fine job!

Maranatha!!!
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To quote your oh so loving and totally christian and so close to gods heart statement:-

""All you damned carnal-hearted Bastards love your sin and therefore argue on that one. You don't realize your very words convict you, but what can you tell someone who is mad in the delusion of self???""

Seems your words have just convicted you lester.

By your words you are justified I remember hearing..and by them condemned.

I am not a christian as such but because I have seen people like you ranting and raving for years. It turns one off. But now this fellow comes along with integruty and truth and love and humility..and because of the loving words and the sincerity of his words I have sought and found the truth.

But back to you Lester.

Cant you see just how full of hate and rage you are?

I dont know about everyone else here Lester but it seems to me that you have lost the plot over the years.

I remember you as being level headed and calm and certain and never angry...albeit deludud and wrapped up in yourself.

What happenned?

Has getting really "close" to God..as you reckon you have..turned you into the VERY same thing you rail against?

It seems that way.

By their fruits I think the saying goes.

I see swearing and anger and hate and rage and jealousy and pride and arrogance and a disgusting self-righteousness..oozing out in every word and rant you come up with..especially now that you have been challenged with the truth of it.

It must be a hard thing to destroy what reputation tyou once had with some good old fashined hate.
But you are also detroying Gods rep too or have you forgotten that?

That final call fellow had a bit of this at first but at least he SAW it for what it was ane publicly repented..HE was open to correction, and look at the wonderful post of love that came about because of His humbling himslef before God and the world.

But you keep spouting the same delusions you always have but now you do it with hate and a lot of jealousy. Whats the matter..is the truth hurting?
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Lester where did you go?

Hiding fromt the truth again I see.
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Once the ball is rolling we won't have time to argue about where it came from!
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Thats true.

Who is going to be in a state to debate when they cant even eat?
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thank you OP

also this sounds a lot like bertha dudde's way of expressing from God. Good Job by Final Call

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Hello i think you guys need to make up your minds allready pick a side and go full speed ahead move on god wants to go.
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Overview of the TJ

The translation of the Aramaic leaves of the first roll reads as if it is the original writing of the ministry and teachings of Jesus. However, it indicated that his original name was not Jesus, but had been Immanuel. His desire to have it be spelled starting with a "J" symbol is explained in Meier's Foreword to the TJ. The New Testament gospel most closely resembling the TJ is the Gospel of Matthew. It resembles the TJ closely in both wording, where the verses have close parallels, and in order, although each contains much text not contained by the other. Since 1986 I have been analyzing this Talmud and finding several hundred reasons consistent with its verses having been genuine and Matthew's verses having been derived from them.

It is impressive that despite this close similarity between the two texts, the TJ contains its own theme—a no-frills New Age theme in its essence that is absent from Matthew except for traces left behind. The TJ gives its own story in a straightforward manner that is remarkably free from inconsistencies, ambiguities and interruptions in flow of thought, all of which scholars have found characterize Matthew many times over. Comparison of the two texts allows one to deduce which of Jmmanuel's teachings had to be altered or omitted to conform with the early Christianity that Paul had initiated, and which teachings of Jmmanuel managed to find their way into the Gospels almost intact. A summary of these teachings is presented here. Unfortunately, his teachings that were carried forward into Matthew essentially unaltered are in the minority. Comparison of the two texts leads to consistent reasons why the writer of Matthew made the changes he did.

The spiritual message of the TJ, which is its main thrust, is both enlightening and inspiring for one whose belief system does not oppose certain basics of New Age thought. It is described in an internet article, whose source appeared in Wildfire magazine (vol. 4, No. 2; 1989), which I authored. I discuss the spirituality of the TJ further in the July issue (vol. 15, No. 3) of the J. of Religion and Psychical Research.

Basically, this theme involves discussions of the human spirit, its gradual evolution over innumerable lifetimes, its immortality and its eventual merger with and into the Great Spirit or Universal Consciousness or God, which the TJ refers to as Creation. A related theme teaches the distinction between human-like beings much advanced over us (called guardian angels and celestial sons), and Creation; these beings are of course commonly referred to as extraterrestrials (ETs) or aliens today. Their leader, for whom Jmmanuel had great respect, is referred to as "Gott" (God) in the German translation but as El here, since the Aramaic word, "El," as in "Immanuel," is what was used to refer to this entity. However, "El" in the Old Testament is translated as "God," which then was the procedure followed by the TJ's translator.

The overarching motif surrounding the TJ is that a certain alien group, who told Jmmanuel

they were from the constellation of the seven stars—the Pleiades,
were genetically compatible
with us and had been visiting Earth in past scores of thousands of years. Some 10,000 or so years ago they decided to oversee us in a manner that no longer involved themselves directly, and to give us some guidance in a similar indirect manner. This they did by arranging to have a highly advanced spirit form or soul periodically reincarnate into the human race in the Middle East region, starting with the biblical Enoch. Some 3000 years ago they decided the time was approaching when the key human lifetime of this spirit form should occur, for the purpose of teaching humanity some spiritual truths. So some 2000 years ago they brought about this incarnation, with that spirit form reincarnating into the fetus of Jmmanuel around A.D. 6, not 6 B.C.! His alien procreator saw to it that Jmmanuel would receive intensive education in his youth, which involved those "lost years of Jesus" spent in India -- a topic receiving very substantial evidential support. Thus Jmmanuel was an occasional contactee of these aliens. They realized that his teachings would inevitably be distorted, but felt that mankind could only learn through making mistakes and then learning from those mistakes. So they maintained a continued interest over the centuries.

One of the TJ's minor heresies is that the person who betrayed Jmmanuel to the arresting party and a little later committed suicide was Juda Ihariot, a young Pharisee who had been acquainted with Jmmanuel and the disciples, and not Judas Iscariot. Judas was Jmmanuel's designated writer as well as the treasurer for the twelve.

However, the greatest of the TJ's heresies is that Jmmanuel survived the crucifixion, with the help of medical attention inside the tomb during three days and nights. Then, after appearing to his disciples several times, he went on to Damascus where he stayed incognito a couple years, before sending for his mother Mary, brother Judas (Judas Thomas) and disciple Judas Iscariot to join him. Soon thereafter they started on their travels, of which various traditions speak.

The TJ rolls were mostly written by Judas Iscariot who traveled with Jmmanuel to India, along with Judas-Thomas (Jmmanuel's brother Judas) and mother Mary, several years after the crucifixion. However, the full story was only completed in India in the early second century, with a transcription of the rolls apparently having been penned there. After Jmmanuel's eventual death in the Kashmir region in early 2nd century, the rolls and their transcription were carried back to the Palestinian or Anatolian region by Jmmanuel's oldest son. He evidently released the transcription somewhere in that region, where it eventually found its way into the hands of the writer of Matthew, but he preserved and hid the original TJ rolls within a tomb just south of the Old City of Jerusalem. There they were presumably safeguarded from premature discovery by aliens of the same group until they prompted Meier and Rashid to discover them in 1963.

Early in his Pleiadian contacts Meier asked his primary alien contactor, Semjase, if she could
Jmmanuel as sketched by
Semjase, retouched by an artist.
From the Talmud of Jmmanuel. "Son of the Great Spirit."
From Ancient American, Vol. 4, No. 26.

give him a
Jmmanuel as sketched by
Semjase, retouched by an artist.
From the Talmud of Jmmanuel. "Son of the Great Spirit."
From Ancient American, Vol. 4, No. 26.
picture of Jmmanuel. She declined, but told him that if he supplied paper and pencil
(so that no alien evidence would be left behind) she would make a sketch from their records. This she did, and gave to Meier; it is shown on the left. He is seen to be young looking but bearded, with almond-shaped eyes, hair parted in the middle, a mustache and lips that are not especially prominent. These same features are seen in the picture on the right, which is an etching on a stone that came from the Burrows cave in Michigan containing various native-American artifacts. The latter did not come to public attention until 1879, and were recently dated to the 4th century A.D. or earlier (Wayne May, "Christ in America?," Ancient American, Vol. 4, No. 26 (Jan./Feb. 1999)). (The face shown in these drawings does not much resemble the one on the Shroud of Turin.) Considering that Jmmanuel was a contactee whose mission was to teach spiritual truths in many lands, we must keep open the possibility that some time after traveling to northern India and settling down there, Jmmanuel was taken on extended tours to the Americas and back in his father's UFO. See He Walked the Americas by L. Taylor Hansen (Amherst, WI: Legend Press, 1963), for Native-American legends regarding "Jesus," as influenced by Christianity in the last few centuries. Interestingly, both the stone etching and the legends indicate the man had a full beard, which Native Americans did not grow.

The TJ's text continues well into the narratives of Jmmanuel's travels in Anatolia, with interesting and practical teachings occupying much of it. Then it ends due to the written translation of the rolls that Meier received from Rashid not having extended past the point where Jmmanuel and his traveling companions were in a caravan on the road headed east to the land of India. Meier has estimated that only the translation of one of the original four rolls of writing was sent to him before their destruction in 1974. Thus, all has been lost that pertained to Jmmanuel's long life and ministry in India and Kashmir, except for what Rashid read during his initial reading of the rolls and then related to Meier, and except for what certain other traditions indicate.

What was not lost, however, includes a wealth of extremely valuable material. Among it is confirmation that Jmmanuel alias Jesus did travel to India and back during the Lost Years of his youth and early manhood. This confirms research on this topic, the most recent of which is that of Ed Martin, author of King of Travelers.

[link to www.tjresearch.info]
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This post must be true. Its all about love. No anger and no judging. Its all love and genuine concern of the type that a God of love would show.

I read it and read it again. I am not a typical "christian" but I am tempted to become a "follower" of the God who wrote the above post because its love.

I am so sick to death of prophecies of doom and almost an eargerness by "christians" to see destruction visited on the world in self righteous hate of all that is not of "them".

For once I believe a prophecy.
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amen, this post gives God Glory!
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Words from an Ancient Sirian Council:

The Council of Annu

Received by Gillian MacBeth-Louthan

We are Ancient Sirian of Origin. We are ancient galactic of birth, We are the Council of Annu. We are beyond your measure of time and space. We are beyond your message of DNA and RNA. We are what the light yearns to become in awareness. We are what the filaments of humanness reach up to and for. We are genetically encoded within the crust of earth, within the plants of the earth, within the water of the earth. We live deep within the ancient flesh of human beings.

We come forth at this time as the alignment of the heavens and stars usher you in to a Trans-portal of self through the 888 doorway. These configurations represent several dimensions of your existence. In this date and this time 8/8/2008 there is a 8th dimensional flux that you enter into, a place that you will retrieve existing understandings/ encodings that have been hidden from your eyes, your ears, your sensories and your sensing up until this conjunction.

You stand at the sacred portal. Upon this portal is placed a mirror. The key that unlocks the portal is your own reflection. The key to unlock the reflection is self- love, earth love, heart love; beyond measurement of relationships, beyond measurement of family, beyond measurement of kinship. In your mind's eye, see this Trans-portal, this doorway and see the mirrored effect of it.

As you look deep into your own reflection, how do you feel? Is their joy that stands in front of you? Is their remorse? Is their distaste? Is their love? it is imperative that you do anything and everything that you can to place yourself in a garment of self love, for it is the canoe that will take you to the island that you so seek. It is a solitary paddling that you embark upon in a misty horizon that you walk into, in a land where your perceptions are distorted. As with Alice and the Looking Glass you fall down the rabbit hole of this Trans-portal. You look in the black mirror that holds your reflection. Who do you see? Is it the you that you know? Is it the you that you once were? Or is it the you that you yearn to become?

The next place of momentum takes the form of a labyrinth, a point of going around and around and around in a Fibonacci spiral to find the nautilus of you. At that point of inner centeredness you will drop and rise simultaneously creating a dimensional flux, a bend in your future, a bend in your planet, and a bend in the light. At that point of bending, you will then be offered an opportunity that comes only when you have initialized the codes of self-love. Then and only then will you be allowed entrance into the center of your universe.

Within you is a time safe trigger. It is waiting for certain dates and number conjunctions on your calendar to activate, to ignite, and to awaken dormant truths. The doorway is you. The time is now. The entrance code is the energetic signature of your love for you. It is not a handprint. It is not an eye scan . It is not a thumbprint. But it is a heart print that allows you entrance. Not the imprint of your love for the neighbor, or your father-in-law, or an abusive parent, but your love for you, is how you gain entrance into this doorway of the future.

Each of you has called upon a 'Light' that will hopefully give to you what you seek. Imagine all the people of earth, 6 billion plus, calling to different vibrations of Light – for that is what they have done. Imagine 6 billion plus people calling to different vibrations/levels of love. Now imagine 6 billion plus people calling to 6 billion plus different faces of God.

Your planet is known as the seeker. For as one is born into the flesh, one begins to seek; you seek yourself, you seeks your heart, you seek your mission, you seek your partner in life and love. And when one is fulfilled and has accomplished all of that, then one continues to seek – for nothing of earth can fill you, nor has it ever. So, always you are seekers. Never resting enough to taste the nectar of what you have manifested, of what you have created, or what has come to you – forward moving is your species and your light. For never will the light be fulfilled until it sups upon itself. All the external doorways and the dimensions that you seek outside of yourself through crystals, through books etc; but give you a taste, a spoonful of the very thing that you truly need.

The Hall of Records that is hidden within the belly of the Sphinx, within the belly of the Inverted Pyramid, is also hidden within your own belly. It lies hidden from the (solar plexus) belly button down. For you all have cleared the debris from your heart, from your speaking, from your 3rd eye, from your crown – but you do not touch the tainted place, the dirty place from the solar plexus down – the basement of emotional debris, sexual debris, anger, and fear. It is within that subterranean chamber that you will decide how much love you can exhume and resuscitate – the parts of you that do not want to be seen, do not want to be loved, do not want to be known, do not want to be touched. That is the part of you that you will enter into it with compassion as if visiting a home for the elderly or visiting an asylum of mental instabilities. Look at each part of you that is tainted and tattered and shattered and shredded and angry and dirty. Love it as if you would the people on the street that just needed a chance to be beautiful again, needed a chance to be healthy again, and needed a chance to be balanced again. For everything above the waist is lily white, is it not? You have forgotten to do the laundry for eons in the lower chakras. You scooted it to the back of your plate and now it is cold and stale and moldy, and you are about to ingest it to gain entrance to the Heart of the Light.

There are places in your personal history your soul history when you were not merciful. Times and places when you were not so nice and enlightened, remember when you were in the Crusades, when you knocked down the Bastille, when you burned 9 million woman, when you killed entire tribes and cultures of people because they thought, looked, or smelled different from yourself. It is that very darkened flesh of earth that has not been cleansed. You can see that bloody signature still lives in many countries in the year of 2002. They continue to play it out over and over again. By embracing that energy within yourself by walking through it in your awareness, you will understand what they still experience everyday, the survival, the death, the genocide. Most of you live in a luxury that has been bought and sold with your ancestor's blood, sweat, and tears.

We ask you to sit here to embrace this time as you walk into August 8th and go down deep to the belly of the beast and look and see and feel and love. Then when you stand in that mirror reflection, you will know who you are and then be activated with the light-key codes to open the doorway to the next level of you, a place where light bends just for you. A place where light intersects just for you.

For remember, everyone has called a different light, a different love, a different heart, and a different God into awakening. That is why so many energies come to earth. You are not all ordering from the same take-out restaurant. Each one of you demands and needs a different flavor of God, of light, of love, and of heart. And so it shall be. There will not come a time when everyone on earth seeks the same God, for the Universal Prime Creator has not set it up as such. The oneness starts within self and then ripples out. No one on earth has embraced the oneness fully. Until that happens, there will not be peace. Until you come fully into all of your pieces, there will not be peace as you so seek. All of you are Gods in Training. You are diversified filaments of Light. You are emancipated octaves of Creation that has expressed itself in holy and unholy ways.

There is nothing here on your world that comes to get you, that comes to chomp at you, that comes to hurt you unless you decide it is so. There are no Karmic contracts unless you decide it is so. Everyone that you meet has the potential to be in your heart if you decide it is so. Open up this doorway as you enter the subterranean aspects and chambers of the Ancient You. The you that took down planets. The you that saddled asteroids and rode them into another dimension.

There is nothing meek and mild about anyone on this planet Earth. All of you are warriors. It is time that you recognized that. But this time, what will you fight for? Will you fight for 100% healing in every cell of your being? Will you fight for love beyond any measure of love that you have ever tasted? Will you fight for 100% remembrance? Will you fight for truth that is shinier than any truth that has been seen throughout history? Will you fight for you and what you believe in and who you are and how you are? The portals separate those who will and those who will not. They separate those who choose to move forward and those who choose to stay in comfort ability. This choosing is not something decreed by a finger of God that is pointed at each individual. It is something decreed by each individual. Stop waiting on your lives. They are here. It is now.

We are the Council of Annu, Sirian of Light and Sirian of Origin. Our blood, our fiber, our genetic encoding runs within you each and every one of you. On August 8, 2008 the Star Sirius broadcasted to you a genetic remembrance. This truth will be in a packet of light that is different for each and every one. There will be no similarities. Each light packet will then create an activation of a Sirian template that lives within your being. A remembering, like a mother board that speaks As this mother board is touched with light, it will bring to the surface what you need to do in order to move past the obstacles of a world and a planet that would like to keep you in knickers, so to speak. We are Council of Annu, Sirian of Light, Sirian of Origin. We leave.


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So, here is more proof of the days we are living in. This quote from the AC above:

"I am not a christian as such but because I have seen people like you ranting and raving for years. It turns one off. But now this fellow comes along with integruty and truth and love and humility..and because of the loving words and the sincerity of his words I have sought and found the truth."


Okay. You are "not a Christian", by your own admission.

If you cannot recognize Christ Jesus, and by your own confession you do not; what makes you think you know what truth and love are? Much less, humility or integrity???

If you don't recognize Christ Jesus, why does anything that anyone who does claim HIM speak to you?

Keith is not much different from you, although he claims Christ; to his credit. Yet, as he is not Born-Again; what, if anything that relates to Christ, The Father, or The Holy Spirit can Keith speak upon or address with any certainty?

Not a damn thing!

Christians who aren't able to witness HIS Truth, and make their discussion bounded in things of-the-world, are phonies. They are liars, giving false-witness because they attempt to speak/write with authority and to sway others. That they have no grounding In-HIM and no Knowledge of God's Will does not deter these Hebrews 12 Bastards. This is at the core of anti-Christ activity!

This bullshitting about Christ and God's Plan is what Jesus referred to as "making little ones stumble". Better to have never been born.

I recall reading some asshole Christian Hebrews 12 Bastard in his internet column, saying that muslims/budhists/atheists were anti-Christ. That Bastard was the one giving anti-Christ witness, not the muzzie or the budhist. Not many atheists I've ever seen out there witnessing against Jesus. Yet, the self-willed Bastards say whatever they dream up. Same with ol' Keith.

God is not to be trifled with. Self-will is the cause of the Hebrews 12 Bastard's alienation. They really have no concept that they can Know God and Receive HIM in their daily lives. Why else would they say the shit they say, other than they are just unKnowing?

If you Know God, HE enables you to live in HIS Accord and Do HIS Will. That is the Ezk 36:27 Witness.

If you Know HIM and do HIS Will, you also are so Continually Amazed to be living your life In-HIM, that being Born-Again and the aspects of that experience are All that matter.

Death is of no concern, matters of this world are of no concern. ALL THAT MATTERS IS DOING HIS WILL!

But, the Hebrews 12 Bastards refuse HIS Chastisement. They will not see that they themselves are the cause for their alienation. They just don't Believe or have enough Faith to give their lives to God.

Jesus Witnesses in John 17 that HIS People are Preserved against all evil. Guess that is not good enough for the Bastards out there. Why would it be? They don't Know God's Truth and certainly don't Trust HIM 100% with their lives!

You don't like my witness?
You're not even a Christian?
I don't see how your opinion matters one damn bit.
Yet, insanity manifests in many ways.
A non-Christian getting involved in things he can't understand and won't even admit to; now there's one for the books!
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Nothing that is Of-God is a lie.

Yet, I have had Christians on well-regarded Christian discussion forums tell me, and the forum, that they Evangelize others by not admitting they are Christian; at first.

The self-will in that situation is the Hebrews 12 carnal-minded perspective. The carnal-Christian thinks that God needs them to do "whatever" to baptize or convert others to Christ. Nothing is further from HIS Truth!

There are lots of people, who are now no longer identifying themselves as Christians, because of the political Christians or whatever other excuse they find for wanting to ditch God's Banner To The World.

3 yrs ago, I had a long-running discussion on many threads with a guy, Gary, who called himself Friend Of God or Follower of Jesus. Very good Biblical knowledge and a nice guy; but never would admit to being a Christian.

The insanity of these days.
The self prevails over God because self says, "I worship you my way, and according to what I can accept to be correct!"

Not going to be a Christian anymore?
Then you damn well aren't.
Denying God's Banner To The World?
Jesus will deny you to The Father.

All that matters is your Relationship With God.
Do you have one?
Have you been In-HIS Presence?
You NEVER forget!
Do you Know?

If any of these Hebrews 12 Bastards knew HIM, their witness would be In-Accord With HIM. They aren't.

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