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Two Thirds of GLOBAL ECONOMY now in the grip of a MAJOR DOWNTURN!

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ECB slammed as Europe crumbles
By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard
Last Updated: 11:43am BST 15/08/2008

The economies of Germany, France and Italy all contracted in the first quarter and may now be in full recession, shattering assumptions that Europe would prove able to shrug off the effects of the credit crunch.

Zapatero has called his cabinet back to Madrid
The picture is darkening so fast in Spain that Prime Minister Jose Luis Zapatero cancelled holidays and called his cabinet back to Madrid yesterday for the first emergency session of its kind since the Franco dictatorship. The crisis meeting agreed to a €20bn (£16bn) blitz on public works, tax cuts, and a mortgage rescue to halt the downward spiral.

Growth has turned negative in Ireland, Denmark, Latvia, and Estonia, while grinding to a halt in Sweden and The Netherlands. Iceland contracted by a staggering 3.7pc. The grim data from Eurostat follows a recession warning in Britain, and shock news that the Japanese economy had shrunk 0.6pc in the second quarter.

Almost the entire bloc of rich Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) countries - still two thirds of the world economy - are now in the grip of a major downturn. The oil shock over the early summer appears to have had a dramatic effect on the heavy industries of Japan and Germany.

The eurozone as a whole shrank by 0.2pc, the first contraction since the launch of the single currency a decade ago. Germany led the slide with a fall of 0.5pc. France and Italy fell 0.3pc. The delayed effects of the strong euro, tight credit, and slowing exports have now kicked in with a vengeance.

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"This is an alarm warning for the economy," said the Confederation of German Industry (BDI).

The European Central Bank and its president Jean-Claude Trichet appear to have misjudged the severity of the downturn, and may have made a serious error by raising interest rates a quarter point to 4.25pc last month.

By then it was already clear that property markets were slumping across much of the region. “What is shocking is the speed of the collapse in Germany,” said Albert Edwards, global strategist at Société Générale. “I think there has been a lot of hubris at the ECB. They took a derisory attitude towards the US, saying the Federal Reserve was too aggressive in cutting rates. Now they are reaping the bitter reward of their policy,” he said.

The ultra-hawkish Bundesbank’s Axel Weber gave no hint yesterday that the ECB is softening, suggesting that the bank sees a deliberate crunch as the only means to pre-empt a 1970s-style wage-price spiral. “The confidence expressed by some observers that weaker economic growth will lead to a damping of inflation pressures is in my opinion premature,” he said.

This is a highly controversial point. Although fuel and food prices have pushed headline inflation to a post-EMU high of 4.1pc, core inflation has fallen from 1.9pc to 1.8pc over the last year. Real wages have suffered a brutal squeeze. Julian Callow, Europe economist at Barclays Capital, said the ECB erred by pre-announcing a rate rise in June.

“They boxed themselves in, and it became hard to retreat. It is clear from the August Bulletin that they have now really woken up to the downturn,” he said. “Recessions in Europe are very nasty events: they tend to be a lot deeper and more protracted than in the US, which is better able to cope with the ups and downs of the business cycle,” he said.

Mr Callow said the EU’s budget deficit limit of 3pc of GDP makes it impossible for many countries to cushion the hard-landing with a spending boost. France and Italy are already near the ceiling. Indeed, Italy is having to tighten policy into the downturn.

Bernard Connolly, global strategist at Banque AIG, said the eurozone faces possible disintegration unless there is a fiscal bail-out from Germany that matches – in sheer scale – Berlin’s Versailles reparations payments after the First World War. “The bursting of the EMU credit bubble seems imminent, and will reveal current account imbalances among euro area countries as extremely dangerous. The medium-term feasibility of the euro area in its current form must be open to very considerable doubt,” he said.

Spain needs a devaluation of 30pc and Greece needs 40pc to restore balance to their economies after suffering a major loss of unit labour competitiveness. The current account deficit is 10pc of GDP in Spain, and 14pc in Greece.

Mr Connolly said the combination of collapsing demand in southern Europe and a slide in the external value of the euro now means that the EMU bloc may now start to export the effects of its troubles to the rest of the world, making it harder to bring the credit crisis to an end.

Eurostat said Spain managed to eke out growth of 0.1pc in the second quarter but this is a lagging indicator. The switch from boom to bust is now turning violent. There are mounting fears that the country could tip into a severe crisis over the next year.

“A momentous economic slowdown is now under way. We believe the deterioration in Spain is just in the beginning stages,” said a report by Morgan Stanley. It said there was a serious risk of a blow-up comparable to the ERM crisis in the early 1990s. This time there is no easy exit. Spain cannot devalue within EMU, or resort to emergency monetary stimulus.

The Bank of Spain revealed yesterday that Spanish lenders have now borrowed €49.4bn from the ECB, confirming reports that smaller banks with heavy exposure to the property market are now relying on EU taxpayer funding to survive. It is unclear whether long-term support of this kind is strictly legal under EU rules.

Some banks appear to be issuing fresh bonds for the sole purpose of obtaining money from the lending window in Frankfurt. Spain’s finance minister Pedro Solbes says it was clearly “unsustainable” for the country to build 800,000 homes last year in the final crescendo of the boom, but said there was nothing the government could do to stop it.

“The economic situation is worse than we all predicted. We thought it would happen slowly but instead it has hit fast,” he said. Construction reached 18pc of GDP in 2007, much of it funded from foreign capital sources that have now dried up. The sector is in freefall. Unemployment has jumped by 457,000 over the last year. Industrial output plunged 9pc in June.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

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8/15/2008 5:03 PM
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bsflag bsflag bsflag

Basic doom and gloom fear mongering. No country has even had 2 quarters of negative GDP growth, so NO ONE is in a recession. The US economy GDP has increased, stocks are heading up, and things are looking good. Oil is dropping, gold is dropping, silver is dropping.

Its over, doom and gloomers. No economic armageddon for you.
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8/15/2008 5:07 PM
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antibs

Face it dweeb, your material world is crashing all around you!!!
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8/15/2008 5:07 PM
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Omega's right again.... not!!!
locomotion
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8/15/2008 5:09 PM
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Hey, must be time for a....



wait for it....


NEW WORLD WAR!

War floats all boat$

war is good
peace is bad
black is white
cold is hot

etc etc etc

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8/15/2008 5:23 PM
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The whole world is upside down.

Bizarro...
Elias Subscriber
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8/15/2008 5:26 PM
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The whole world is upside down.

Bizarro...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 380499


Perhaps you need to pull your head out of your ass and the world will be right side up again. lmao
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Whee! 8D
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8/17/2008 9:09 AM
Re: Two Thirds of GLOBAL ECONOMY now in the grip of a MAJOR DOWNTURN!Quote

bsflag bsflag bsflag

Basic doom and gloom fear mongering. No country has even had 2 quarters of negative GDP growth, so NO ONE is in a recession. The US economy GDP has increased, stocks are heading up, and things are looking good. Oil is dropping, gold is dropping, silver is dropping.

Its over, doom and gloomers. No economic armageddon for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 481917



What you don't understand is that on our side, whether this d00m is on purpose or not DOES NOT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE.
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There is no such thing as good or bad. There are only perceptions and too narrow views of things that prevent us from understanding how everything has a rightful purpose
Number of people who desperately tried to insult me using my TP avatar :13 (Punisher x5) (Charles Fort x2)<= People should maybe actually learn to read?
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8/17/2008 9:11 AM
Re: Two Thirds of GLOBAL ECONOMY now in the grip of a MAJOR DOWNTURN!Quote

Hey, must be time for a....



wait for it....


NEW WORLD WAR!

War floats all boat$

war is good
peace is bad
black is white
cold is hot

etc etc etc

(This message sponsored by TPTB)
 Quoting: locomotion 485410



How many times did we hear elders say "It's time for a world war now!"
Because after every world war comes a time of great prosperity.
Scorpios, report here! [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Without proofs, anything can be True or False.
There is no such thing as good or bad. There are only perceptions and too narrow views of things that prevent us from understanding how everything has a rightful purpose
Number of people who desperately tried to insult me using my TP avatar :13 (Punisher x5) (Charles Fort x2)<= People should maybe actually learn to read?
For those who can't figure out that not everyone in this world is born in areas where the main spoken language is english, my first language is not english.
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8/17/2008 9:12 AM
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Globalism was not such a good idea in the first place. (Unless you're a british/Israel Banker)
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