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Bush Says Breakaway Regions Must Remain Part of Georgia
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killdamon
User ID: 444686
8/26/2008 10:39 PM | | Re: Bush Says Breakaway Regions Must Remain Part of Georgia | Quote |
USA to evacuate disgraced Georgian president in case of national coup
“If they are willing to completely end their ties with us, nothing horrible will happen for Russia,” Medvedev said.
“We have been developing partnership ties with NATO for quite a long time, but we do not need illusions of partnership. We a ready to make any decision, including the one that will end the relationship in general,” he added.
NATO headquarters responded immediately and said that it would be a mistake for Russia to put an end to its contacts with NATO.
Prime Minister Putin stated at a recent session of his government that he did not see any pluses of Russia’s incorporation into the World Trade Organization.
“This does not mean that we must stop our strategic moves towards the WTO, but one has to clarify relations with partners,” Putin said.
The US administration is perfectly aware of the fact that the crisis in Georgia may trigger a civil war in the country. The Georgians may topple their president against the background of a significant price growth in the nation, which took place after the beginning of Georgia’s aggression in South Ossetia.
Russian newspapers say that the USA has been greatly disappointed in Mikhail Saakashvili. The Georgian president has not justified USA’s hopes and his career in politics will end very soon. The Georgian president is completely incapable of acting adequately and reasonably and may thus completely ruin USA’s plans in the region.
Senator Joseph Biden became personally certain of that during his meeting with Saakashvili in Tbilisi. The fate of the Georgian leader has been determined, a source close to the US Embassy in Georgia said.
A helicopter of the US Coast Guard cutter Dallas, which is drifting near the port of Batumi, will evacuate the disgraced Georgian president to the USA in case of a coup.
Just passing thru.
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NasTraDooMis - Aka, killdamon |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 488235
8/27/2008 12:07 AM | | Re: Bush Says Breakaway Regions Must Remain Part of Georgia | Quote |
I thought Bush was on vacation. Oh wait, he is. Some where in Texas I think.
Anybody know where Texas is? Couple states over from George-ah... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 488235
8/27/2008 12:08 AM | | Re: Bush Says Breakaway Regions Must Remain Part of Georgia | Quote |
ah......ah........ |
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TEXAS UNCENSORED
User ID: 491781
8/27/2008 12:15 AM | | Re: Bush Says Breakaway Regions Must Remain Part of Georgia | Quote |
Frankly, it's none of his business. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 489543
8/27/2008 1:24 AM | | Re: Bush Says Breakaway Regions Must Remain Part of Georgia | Quote |
We just have a bit longer before the most horrible excuse for an American President is removed permanently. May he choke on a pretzel at Crawford or in Paraguay where he wants to run to. Cheney will eventually succumb to a heart attack himself and not be mourned.
The last dark cabal put down at last. |
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Matrix
User ID: 491193
8/27/2008 1:59 AM | | Re: Bush Says Breakaway Regions Must Remain Part of Georgia | Quote |
USA to evacuate disgraced Georgian president in case of national coup....
 "I'm so tierd of it all, help get me out of here"
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 385176
8/27/2008 2:01 AM | | Re: Bush Says Breakaway Regions Must Remain Part of Georgia | Quote |
The Democrats wont say anything, because they know the American people will think they are siding with Russia against America the greatest, the most wonderful country in the world...
Rovian tactics are at work here. Rove is trying to make Obama look like a peacenik. So as usual the Democrats have to watch out how their are painted.
... wait until Obama gets elected and we'll see what they are made of without the facists on them.
Oh yes it's Rovian tactics. It's always their fault. Dont say you want peace, dont say you want universal health care, dont take the moral high ground. Or Rove will call us socialist chickens. Yes they are already chickens, no they arent socialist. And the American people just love it. They dont want socialized medicine, they really do want people to profit from disease because profit is good, the American way. They dont want wars where they feel guilty, they want wars that make them feel good.
That's the politics of the American people. And they get what they deserve.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 488414
Ever been to hospital in the UK? A young friend of mine just died because he was sent away to "rest his leg" with blood clots. Fuck socialized medicine. Like all socialism, it's the lowest common demoninator for the peons, while the rich live off the taxes of the working. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 491240
8/27/2008 2:09 AM | | Re: Bush Says Breakaway Regions Must Remain Part of Georgia | Quote |
RUSSIANS DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING...THEY ALREADY DONE IT! |
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i is that which i is
User ID: 342515
8/27/2008 2:23 AM
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Don't worry about it, he knows what he's doing.
In a few years you will wish he was still charge. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18328
 Hi,
I hope that you are either writing this from Iraq, Afghanistan or Army Basic Training in route to going there, because George needs you as a target for the Russian tanks.
Remember that George picked up a 120,000 acre ranch in Paraquay a few years ago to hide in when the SHTF. Just where are you going to hide?
As the person you quoted mentioned "He is an imbecile" to even think that he could do anything about it in Russia's own back yard. He wasn't even able to help the people in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina.
Done my 20 years in the Navy. You are next.
Peace, love, and enlightenment. 
If we do not live in peace together, we die in war together!
"I am not afraid to stand alone, but it's always more fun if I have friends standing with me." Lena Coleon. |
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89446
User ID: 464964
8/27/2008 2:39 AM
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The West recognized Kosovo's independence from Yugoslavia six months ago, so what's the problem now?
[link to www.dw-world.de]
Exactly!
Double standards, arbitrariness and hypocrisy abound ... Quoting: FF 456207
In case you 2 missed it:
Russia says Abkhazia, S. Ossetia situation different from Kosovo
Russia's foreign minister said on Tuesday Moscow's decision to recognize Abkhazia and South Ossetia as independent states has no parallel with Kosovo's declaration of independence made earlier this year.
[link to en.rian.ru] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 393403
8/27/2008 2:49 AM | | Re: Bush Says Breakaway Regions Must Remain Part of Georgia | Quote |
In essence, Bush has drawn a line in the sand. It will be interesting to see what Russia's 'actual' response is. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 465490
nothing like white folks fighting over money...
it will be interesting to see if the U.S. fares as well against Russia as we did against Saddam...
for some reason i believe this lame duck Prez is all talk and little action where Russia is concerned... |
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BelgianBoy
User ID: 391384
8/27/2008 3:17 AM
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Nice alternative view of things:
So why did the Georgian President order such a brazenly provocative attack on South Ossetia that provoked a war with Russia?
There is reason to suspect that Georgian President Mikheil (Misha) Saakashvili works for Russia's intelligence services and, in the wake of the solar eclipse, he ordered an attack on South Ossetia to create a pretext for a staged conflict with Russia per Kremlin instructions:
All of the actors in this red-scripted drama are "ex"-cadres of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, graduates of the Soviet Komsomol, proteges of some communist official, or "ex"-KGB or "ex"-GRU types. This includes South Ossetian President Eduard Kokoity, Abkhazian President Sergei Bagapsh, Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili, Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, and Russian "President" Dmitry Medvedev. In June Kokoity attended a low-profile meeting in North Ossetia with Communist Party of the Russian Federation Chairman Gennady Zyuagnov, whom we consider to be one of the powers behind the throne in "post"-communist Russia. According to Georgian dissident Irakli Kakabadze, "pro"-Western Saakashvili is a long-time KGB agent, while it is more commonly known that his political career was jumpstarted under the auspices of former Georgian Communist Party boss and Soviet Foreign Minister Eduard Shevardnadze. - Once Upon A Time In The West
Here are the suspicious specifics regarding Mikheil Saakashvili according to Georgian dissident Irakli Kakabadze:
1. Misha Saakashvili graduated high school in 1984. Immediately he was sent to the elite KGB foreign service school in Kiev (together with his friend Gela Bezhuashvili). There were very few young students able to get to this institution. But somehow Saakashvili not just studied there but successfully graduated from this school.
2. After his undergraduate studies, Saakashvili continued his KGB career and served in the elite KGB Border Guard Troops, that were created by Mr. Beria, when he chaired the famous NKVD. In the end of 1980s, when many of were fighting the Soviet KGB for the liberation movement, Mr. Saakashvili served the Soviet system in its worst way.
3. Under the patronage of the Soviet KGB, Mr. Saakashvili learned different languages. No doubt he was a talented student of the Soviet Spy school.
4. Mr. Saakashvilis uncle, Mr. Temur Alasania, was a personal protege of the famous KGB chief and General Secretary of the CPSU, Yuri Andropov. Somehow, Mr. Alasania was also very successful in his "Soviet" diplomatic career.
5. After Mr. Saakashvili became president of Georgia, together with his famous "PR Drama against Russia", he allowed Russian businesses to dominate the Georgian economy. In fact, the majority of Georgian factories sold under Mr. Saakashvili's term went to Russian or Kazakh companies with very shady ties.
6. How is it that Mr. Saakashvili, who was ostensibly fighting against Russian aggression in August 2007, provided a Russian Company, "Industrial Investors", headed by Duma Member Generalov, all the Georgian gold reserves?
7. Former Defense Minister, Irakli Okruashvili, talked about heavy involvement of the President's uncle, Temur Alasania, and his cousin, Nick Alasania, in the illegal arms trade business. There are lots of people within the government who indicate that those connection also lead back to the Kremlin.
Jeff Nyquist, one of the most astute modern-day commentators on Russian strategic deception, also suspects Mikheil Saakashvili is not to be trusted by the West:
Last year (2003) an old Soviet functionary, President Eduard Shevardnadze, was fraudulently reelected in the Georgian Republic. Shevardnadze was subsequently forced out by angry demonstrations organized by Mikhail Saakashvili (a graduate of Kiev State University)." The giveaway is that Saakashvili was subsequently elected to the Georgian presidency by a majority of 97 percent. Western observers didn't think twice about this outcome, since Saakashvili sold himself as a Euro-friendly, English-speaking boy wonder. In reality, Saakashvili's democratic credentials are equivocal. He joined Shevardnadze's party in 1995, entering the former communist boss's inner circle. Five years later Saakashvili became Shevardnadze's Minister for Justice. On Sept. 5, 2001, Saakashvili resigned his post to lead a left-of-center opposition party, the United National Movement (UNM). Described by critics as a "power-hungry demagogue," Saakashvili's affection for Shevardnadze was unconcealed after the latter's abdication. That is to say, there was no revolution in Georgia – "velvet" or otherwise. It was merely a transition from an old apparatchik to a younger apparatchik, widening the gateway to Western trade and NATO or EU membership. - Jeff Nyquist, "Analyzing the Ukraine Crisis", 12/2/04
It was abundantly apparent before Georgia attacked South Ossetia that Russia had amassed forces in South Ossetia and Abkhazia and was likely looking for an excuse to invade:
Let's be clear: For all that US commentators and diplomats are still chattering about Russia's "response" to Georgia's actions, the Kremlin spent months planning and preparing this operation. Any soldier above the grade of private can tell you that there's absolutely no way Moscow could've launched this huge ground, air and sea offensive in an instantaneous "response" to alleged Georgian actions.
As I pointed out Saturday, even to get one armored brigade over the Caucasus Mountains required extensive preparations. Since then, Russia has sent in the equivalent of almost two divisions - not only in South Ossetia, the scene of the original fighting, but also in separatist Abkhazia on the Black Sea coast.
The Russians also managed to arrange the instant appearance of a squadron of warships to blockade Georgia. And they launched hundreds of air strikes against preplanned targets.
Every one of these things required careful preparations. In the words of one US officer, "Just to line up the airlift sorties would've taken weeks."
- New York Post, "Russia Goes Rogue", Ralph Peters, 8/12/2008
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 491838
8/27/2008 3:19 AM | | Re: Bush Says Breakaway Regions Must Remain Part of Georgia | Quote |
Bush blusters and Gates now decides. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 488607
8/27/2008 3:29 AM | | Re: Bush Says Breakaway Regions Must Remain Part of Georgia | Quote |
What warcriminal Bush really means is that he wants the independent regions back in Georgian hands so HE can control them for oil. This - again, as always with Bush - is ONLY about the American intrests and their oilbusiness. It has nothing to do with democracy and freedom. If Georgia would cancel the mayor deals with the USA for the pipeline going through Georgia then the US would surely invade them or support Russia.
Bunch of hypocrits! It is just too absurd that Bush - again - thinks he can get away with this charade! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 491240
8/27/2008 4:01 AM | | Re: Bush Says Breakaway Regions Must Remain Part of Georgia | Quote |
THE COWERING U.S............RETREAT..RETREAT.......  |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 96850
8/27/2008 4:37 AM | | Re: Bush Says Breakaway Regions Must Remain Part of Georgia | Quote |
This just in: Russia sends missile nukes to Georgia.
:InflateNuk: Quoting: Kanigo2
That's THE COOLEST bouncy castle i've ever seen.
Chrimbo wishlist is now officially sorted. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 96850
8/27/2008 5:04 AM | | Re: Bush Says Breakaway Regions Must Remain Part of Georgia | Quote |
89446 wake up FFS
Anyone who thinks the West started this only to allow Russia to mock its ally, destroy its military, cruise around the country destroying NATO-standard bases, confiscating US hummers. Quoting: 89446
Political benefit
Do you seriously think the McCain poll bounce since this went down is really all about biden.
Fiscal benefit
they may have been US sourced hardware but it was all bought and paid for by the georgians, as such the loss means fresh orders to MIL-IND-COMPLEX plc. for replacements.
cutting off the main communication lines in a crucial pipeline transit country is a retard Quoting: 89446
The price of oil directly correlates to exxons et als profits it was falling like a rock prior to georgia.
The crisis serves to prop up OIl Co. share prices and thus DIRECTLY benefits bush's principle backers.
much like yourself apparently saaskavili (who only last november brutally repressed a political rally and has shut down all but state broadcasts since then such is his tenuous political position) represents for neocon purposes a useful idiot.
Anthing that looks like an overseas military bogey man (ohh look big ole nasty putin) assists McFail's domestic standings.
as for a september suprise, fully prepare yourself for reports of capture/elimination of bin laden in the next couple of months. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 488414
8/27/2008 6:40 AM | | Re: Bush Says Breakaway Regions Must Remain Part of Georgia | Quote |
Fiscal benefit
they may have been US sourced hardware but it was all bought and paid for by the georgians, as such the loss means fresh orders to MIL-IND-COMPLEX plc. for replacements. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 96850
Interesting.... Atually Georgia's hardware was Russian, former Soviet countries (non NATO compliant). But replacement would be US hardware.
yes... |
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haaaahahaha
User ID: 491903
8/27/2008 6:45 AM | | Re: Bush Says Breakaway Regions Must Remain Part of Georgia | Quote |
$ome still take george bush seriously.......(Hello main stream media)
he's a comedy act ...kinda reminds me of Frank Drebbin...
everyone knows he's dangerously insane ... but extreemely funny.
I love his serious face ,
awww bushy tries so hard !
nothing like stupidity to ignite the inevitable.
America's destruction that is being observed since 9/11 was planned from within, long ago ... yes a set up!
9/11 was a success thanks to the spineless controlled media .
However not all are so stupid! and will not play the game. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 491240
8/27/2008 8:18 AM | | Re: Bush Says Breakaway Regions Must Remain Part of Georgia | Quote |
TIME I TOOK SOME LEAVE YA |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 265673
8/27/2008 9:14 AM | | Re: Bush Says Breakaway Regions Must Remain Part of Georgia | Quote |
In essence, Bush has drawn a line in the sand. It will be interesting to see what Russia's 'actual' response is. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 465490
Yea, but the line was drawn behind the Russians. LOL |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 487016
8/27/2008 10:02 AM | | Re: Bush Says Breakaway Regions Must Remain Part of Georgia | Quote |
In essence, Bush has drawn a line in the sand. It will be interesting to see what Russia's 'actual' response is.
Yea, but the line was drawn behind the Russians. LOL Quoting: Anonymous Coward 265673
Yep. Russia now says it does not recognise that line. Now I wonder if the Caspian oil pipe line might have something to do with it?
[link to www.debka.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 491990
8/27/2008 10:26 AM | | Re: Bush Says Breakaway Regions Must Remain Part of Georgia | Quote |
Russia is now showing herself to be the true promoter of democracy in the world. I, for one, support her wholeheartedly. |
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Cholem Yesodeth
User ID: 487016
8/27/2008 11:05 AM
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89446
User ID: 464964
8/27/2008 12:58 PM
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The price of oil directly correlates to exxons et als profits it was falling like a rock prior to georgia.
The crisis serves to prop up OIl Co. share prices and thus DIRECTLY benefits bush's principle backers. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 96850
Really? Once again Russia is conveniently left out of the picture! Especially when it comes to oil profits! Tsk, tsk. How could you forget THAT.
Spotlight off Russia, spotlight on Bush and US oil co... Ignore the bear in the china shop, right? You wish! |
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anonymous coward
User ID: 487916
8/27/2008 1:55 PM | | Re: Bush Says Breakaway Regions Must Remain Part of Georgia | Quote |
At this point it might be a good idea for California to Secede from the Union.
Why should California, be nuked in the coming Nuclear War when we didn't vote for the Fuc*ers..
Besides if we were on our own we would be one of the largest countrieds, with plenty of money, legalized pot, and no more Neocons..
I have no doubt that we would get political recognition from Russia, and maybe even a trade Alliance.... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 487076
8/27/2008 4:45 PM | | Re: Bush Says Breakaway Regions Must Remain Part of Georgia | Quote |
The price of oil directly correlates to exxons et als profits it was falling like a rock prior to georgia.
The crisis serves to prop up OIl Co. share prices and thus DIRECTLY benefits bush's principle backers.
Really? Once again Russia is conveniently left out of the picture! Especially when it comes to oil profits! Tsk, tsk. How could you forget THAT.
Spotlight off Russia, spotlight on Bush and US oil co... Ignore the bear in the china shop, right? You wish! Quoting: 89446
Yet, You ignore the Jew in the China shop. If not for Israels actions, Russia would have stayed put. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 492174
8/27/2008 4:49 PM | | Re: Bush Says Breakaway Regions Must Remain Part of Georgia | Quote |
Americans have learned nothing whatsoever
it is a immoral people
with no knowledge of history
no understanding of law and democracy
no free press
and an imbecil for president
I apologize for the few good Americans that are there,
but in general Americans are more stupid
then the backend of a cow
just watch American TV and you know all about it
what a soulless sad people!
fortunately, despite whatever teh warcriminals in the WH do,
KARMA also works for Americans
and HELL they will get all this crap back on theirs Quoting: Anonymous Coward 488607
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 209736
8/27/2008 5:23 PM | | Re: Bush Says Breakaway Regions Must Remain Part of Georgia | Quote |
No President has produced more stupid quotes over an 8 year period as George W. Bush has.
The Top 22 Stupidest George W. Bush Quotes Of All Time:
[link to thepoliticaljungle.blogspot.com] |
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