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ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 371314
8/20/2008 11:23 AM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote |
The Zeta's are higher density than humans because they carry so much bullshit in their mouths. |
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TheChoirmaster
User ID: 487333
8/20/2008 11:29 AM
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The Zeta's are higher density than humans because they carry so much bullshit in their mouths. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 371314
Or is it because they acre composed of bullshit?
Proud member of the conspiratorial twenty-first century nuns . . . |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 486635
8/20/2008 11:32 AM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote |
Freestore doesn't even understand what the ecliptic is. How can he understand where the moon is supposed to be? We have been through this with him before. He seems to think that the moon travels the same path day after day, rising and setting in the same place, which explains why he perceives the moon to be out of place. Of course when confronted with the recent eclipses occurring exactly when and where they were predicted to happen, the likes of Freestore believe that the almighty zetas tilted the earth to make it happen so that us mortals don't freak out, the element of doubt as they call it. |
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Circuit Breaker 
Countdown To Nancy's Next Failure
User ID: 483025
8/20/2008 12:23 PM
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Not entirely true. He believes that whatever path the sun takes across the sky during the day, the moon should follow the same path at night. While the moon does take the same north/south journey as the sun, he can't wrap is head around the fact that the sun's north/south journey takes an entire year to complete, whereas the moon does the same journey in just a month...every month. So, in one year, the sun has completed one cycle while the moon has completed 12. |
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Free Store.
User ID: 162186
8/20/2008 2:11 PM
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The Debunkers claim the Sun looks yellow..that's the mentality people, I am dealing with..
Last February, I measured each night the gibbous Moon's position as it approached it's Lunar eclipse during the week
Three nights prior to the Eclipse, the gibbous Moon was found rising 84 degrees NE.
Now tell me where the Moon is suppose to be prior to the Eclipse?..as you say you know where it should be..link or something do tell
On the night of the Eclipse, the Moon rises due East
Well that is a big step backwards of 24 degrees from the NE position
Now Yellow Sunshine do point to where the position in degrees the Gibbous Moon is suppose to be before a lunar Eclipse
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"Regard your neighbor's gain as your own gain; and regard your neighbor's loss as your own loss."
Tai Shang Kan Ying P'ien |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 356996
8/20/2008 2:14 PM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote |
You really don't have ANY understanding of the normal motions of the moon, do you? How can you possibly claim it's out of place when you haven't the first clue where it should be? |
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Free Store.
User ID: 162186
8/20/2008 2:19 PM
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Like you know where before a lunar eclipse
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"Regard your neighbor's gain as your own gain; and regard your neighbor's loss as your own loss."
Tai Shang Kan Ying P'ien |
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Menow
User ID: 487050
8/20/2008 2:32 PM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote |
The Debunkers claim the Sun looks yellow..that's the mentality people, I am dealing with..
Last February, I measured each night the gibbous Moon's position as it approached it's Lunar eclipse during the week
Three nights prior to the Eclipse, the gibbous Moon was found rising 84 degrees NE.
Now tell me where the Moon is suppose to be prior to the Eclipse?..as you say you know where it should be..link or something do tell
On the night of the Eclipse, the Moon rises due East
Well that is a big step backwards of 24 degrees from the NE position
Now Yellow Sunshine do point to where the position in degrees the Gibbous Moon is suppose to be before a lunar Eclipse Quoting: Free Store.
"On the night of the Eclipse, the Moon rises due East"
What does that mean? You think the Moon DID rise due east, or the Moon was SUPPOSED to rise due east? |
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Menow
User ID: 487050
8/20/2008 2:33 PM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote |
Three nights prior to the Eclipse, the gibbous Moon was found rising 84 degrees NE. Quoting: Free Store.
What were your measurements on the other nights? |
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Free Store.
User ID: 162186
8/20/2008 2:37 PM
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A straight answer please..three days prior to a Lunar Eclipse.
Where is the Gibbous Moon at that time?
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"Regard your neighbor's gain as your own gain; and regard your neighbor's loss as your own loss."
Tai Shang Kan Ying P'ien |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 356996
8/20/2008 2:38 PM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote |
Like you know where before a lunar eclipse Quoting: Free Store.
Yes, as a metter of fact, it can easily be calculated the position of the moon for any minute for hundreds of years in the past to hundreds of years in the future. Do you not know this? |
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Circuit Breaker
Countdown To Nancy's Next Failure
User ID: 483025
8/20/2008 2:41 PM
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The Debunkers claim the Sun looks yellow..that's the mentality people, I am dealing with.. Quoting: Free Store.
The sun is yellow. We've backed that up with photos such as these:
[link to www.puttocksfarm.com]
[link to upload.wikimedia.org]
You, on the other hand, claim it is not yellow and provide nothing to back up your claim...that's the mentality we're dealing with from you.
Last February, I measured each night the gibbous Moon's position as it approached it's Lunar eclipse during the week
Three nights prior to the Eclipse, the gibbous Moon was found rising 84 degrees NE.
Now tell me where the Moon is suppose to be prior to the Eclipse?..as you say you know where it should be..link or something do tell
On the night of the Eclipse, the Moon rises due East
Well that is a big step backwards of 24 degrees from the NE position
Now Yellow Sunshine do point to where the position in degrees the Gibbous Moon is suppose to be before a lunar Eclipse Quoting: Free Store
Again, you prove you know absolutely nothing about the orbit of the moon. We've suggested you go view with an astronomy club so they can explain it to you...and yet you continue to refuse doing so. Again, that's the mentality we're dealing with from you. |
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Menow
User ID: 487050
8/20/2008 3:06 PM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote |
A straight answer please..three days prior to a Lunar Eclipse.
Where is the Gibbous Moon at that time? Quoting: Free Store.
What on Earth makes you think it's always the same? |
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Free Store.
User ID: 162186
8/20/2008 3:16 PM
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We know the Lunar eclipse the Moon is rising from due east
that never changes..I'm talking about the Lunar eclipse only
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"Regard your neighbor's gain as your own gain; and regard your neighbor's loss as your own loss."
Tai Shang Kan Ying P'ien |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 356996
8/20/2008 3:16 PM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote |
A straight answer please..three days prior to a Lunar Eclipse.
Where is the Gibbous Moon at that time?
What on Earth makes you think it's always the same? Quoting: Menow 487050
The gibbous moon is in a different location every month...just as it SHOULD be. Freestore needs to learn a little Astronomy 101 so he doesn't look so incredibly stupid. |
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Circuit Breaker
Countdown To Nancy's Next Failure
User ID: 483025
8/20/2008 3:23 PM
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We know the Lunar eclipse the Moon is rising from due east
that never changes..I'm talking about the Lunar eclipse only Quoting: Free Store.
You're wrong. A lunar eclipse occurs whenever the Moon passes through some portion of the Earth's shadow. This can occur only when the Sun, Earth, and Moon are aligned exactly, or very closely so, with the Earth in the middle. Hence, there is always a full moon the night of a lunar eclipse...not a gibbous moon. And that doesn't mean the moon rises "due east" during an eclipse. The type and length of an eclipse depend upon the Moon's location relative to its orbital nodes. You should really try doing some research on this subject. Here's a link (although I'm sure you'll ignore it like everything else):
[link to en.wikipedia.org] |
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Free Store.
User ID: 162186
8/20/2008 3:28 PM
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The gibbous moon is in a different location every month...just as it SHOULD be. Freestore needs to learn a little Astronomy 101 so he doesn't look so incredibly stupid. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 356996
So you don't know where the Gibbous Moon's position is before a lunar eclipse
All I want is the answer..you all claim you know!
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"Regard your neighbor's gain as your own gain; and regard your neighbor's loss as your own loss."
Tai Shang Kan Ying P'ien |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 356996
8/20/2008 3:31 PM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote |
Firstly, a lunar eclipse never occurs at the gibbous phase...only in the full phase. That you don't understand this tell us a lot. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 356996
8/20/2008 3:32 PM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote |
Give me any date, time and location and I'll give you the altitude and azimuth of the moon. |
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Free Store.
User ID: 162186
8/20/2008 3:40 PM
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Feb 17 to Feb 20 of this year
Location Vancouver any time after 4 pm
The time is recorded in past NL threads so use various times for those dates and see if any are NE
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"Regard your neighbor's gain as your own gain; and regard your neighbor's loss as your own loss."
Tai Shang Kan Ying P'ien |
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Free Store.
User ID: 162186
8/20/2008 3:47 PM
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When the Moon began to rise in Vancouver is close to the time
You should know
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"Regard your neighbor's gain as your own gain; and regard your neighbor's loss as your own loss."
Tai Shang Kan Ying P'ien |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 356996
8/20/2008 3:49 PM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote |
Feb 17 to Feb 20 of this year
Location Vancouver any time after 4 pm
The time is recorded in past NL threads so use various times for those dates and see if any are NE Quoting: Free Store.
Here's Vancouver for February 17th...
Astronomical Applications Dept.
U.S. Naval Observatory
Washington, DC 20392-5420
VANCOUVER
o , o ,
W123 00, N49 00
Altitude and Azimuth of the Moon
Feb 17, 2008
Zone: 8h West of Greenwich
Altitude Azimuth Fraction
(E of N) Illuminated
h m o o
00:00 50.0 252.0 0.83
01:00 40.6 264.7 0.84
02:00 31.0 275.5 0.84
03:00 21.6 285.5 0.84
04:00 12.7 295.2 0.85
05:00 4.5 305.3 0.85
06:00 -2.9 315.9 0.85
07:00 -8.9 327.4 0.86
12:00 -9.7 31.9 0.87
13:00 -4.0 43.6 0.88
14:00 3.2 54.5 0.88
15:00 11.2 64.9 0.88
16:00 19.9 74.9 0.89
17:00 29.2 85.1 0.89
18:00 38.6 96.2 0.89
19:00 47.9 109.2 0.89
20:00 56.3 126.1 0.90
21:00 62.6 149.2 0.90
22:00 65.2 179.2 0.90
23:00 62.6 209.2 0.91
As you can see, when the moon rose around 14:00, it was well in the northeast. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 356996
8/20/2008 3:52 PM | |
Free Store.
User ID: 162186
8/20/2008 3:56 PM
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OK good that means I was not making it up
In Astronomy 101..where is the usual position of gibbous Moon three days before a Lunar eclipse?
Thank you
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"Regard your neighbor's gain as your own gain; and regard your neighbor's loss as your own loss."
Tai Shang Kan Ying P'ien |
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Circuit Breaker
Countdown To Nancy's Next Failure
User ID: 483025
8/20/2008 4:07 PM
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OK good that means I was not making it up Quoting: Free Store
Right...but it also means the moon was right where it should have been.
In Astronomy 101..where is the usual position of gibbous Moon three days before a Lunar eclipse?
Thank you Quoting: Free Store
That's going to vary because the gibbous moon isn't in the same location all the time. Why can't you grasp this? |
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Menow
User ID: 487050
8/20/2008 4:08 PM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote |
We know the Lunar eclipse the Moon is rising from due east
that never changes..I'm talking about the Lunar eclipse only Quoting: Free Store.
Who told you that? |
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Free Store.
User ID: 162186
8/20/2008 4:09 PM
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WE...are talking Lunar Eclipse where the Lunar Moon rises due East ever time.
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"Regard your neighbor's gain as your own gain; and regard your neighbor's loss as your own loss."
Tai Shang Kan Ying P'ien |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 275333
8/20/2008 4:09 PM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote |
Good grief..........not this crap again. |
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Menow
User ID: 487050
8/20/2008 4:11 PM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote |
OK good that means I was not making it up
In Astronomy 101..where is the usual position of gibbous Moon three days before a Lunar eclipse?
Thank you Quoting: Free Store.
We just told you, and I asked you, rhetorically, what makes you think it's always the same? |
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Menow
User ID: 487050
8/20/2008 4:12 PM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote |
WE...are talking Lunar Eclipse where the Lunar Moon rises due East ever time. Quoting: Free Store.
Again... WHO TOLD YOU THAT????? It isn't true. |
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