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| Prof_Rabbit User ID: 148352 8/16/2008 10:01 PM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote |
If you've had such a poor understanding of celestial coordinates, as you demonstrated a couple of weeks ago, why should anyone take your past claims of PX coordinates seriously?
Why were you supposedly right about coordinates in 2003, yet in 2008 show a complete lack of understanding in how celestial coordinates actually work? How did you LOSE such knowledge?
NancyTalk: This is not a question to the Zetas, but to me, Nancy. Have you ever examined the scope of issues that ZetaTalk addresses, the number of sciences it covers, in depth? Check the science section. I’m old, sick, exhuasted most of the time and stumble about with dizziness from various illnesses. YOU could not do what I do, I’m certain, oh arrogant one, so buzz off. Quoting: Nancy Lieder
Yup, sick is right, your delusion continues along with the poor excuses for your complete failure. "Anger is a wind that blows out the lamp of your mind" |
| Full Tilt User ID: 318980 8/16/2008 10:14 PM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote |
Has the Full Moon been peaking earlier than the tables, by about at least one day, maybe a day and a half?
[and from another]
Is it possible that the tables for the full moon peak are off by more
than one day?
SOZT
It has been noted and documented on the ZetaTalk website that the Moon’s orbit is tilted too far to the north during half the periodh, and too far to the south during the other half. This makes the distance across the face of the Earth SHORTER, as the Earth is broader at her middle, at the Equator. Taking a route over land above or below the Equator is a short cut, so to speak, so gradually the Moon has gained on her regular 28 day orbit period. Thus, peaking earlier than in the tables, as you note.
EOZT Quoting: Nancy Lieder
This is an incredibly stupid thing to post tonight - the night of a partial lunar eclipse and full moon that you will find predicted in ephemeris printed 20 years ago. Just how ignorant of Astronomy are the Zetas? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 485518 8/16/2008 10:44 PM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote | Thanks, Nancy,
I worship the Church of Latter Day Zeta Thugs. I've become service to self because of your shining example.
Glad you are a mod too. |
| killdamon User ID: 444686 8/17/2008 12:03 AM
 | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote | Bunch of hateful cunts ! Ya ran Nancy off ! Go take a long walk off a short pier ! you disgust me !  Just passing thru. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 456034 8/17/2008 12:30 AM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote | Nobody ran her off, she is just too chickenshit to answer the valid questions and challenges to her veracity. She can dish out mean shit with the best of them, and when she gets caught outing herself as completely ignorant of the basics of astronomy, which is the basis of her trip, she pulls out the poor sick old lady routine. What a hypocrite. She could at least redeem herself if she apologized for insulting and censoring the people that try to point out her error over the years. If she hadn't been so hard headed and convinced that only she can be right, she might have learned how to read coordinates way before she was telling people the coordinates for PX and how to find it. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 459297 8/17/2008 12:52 AM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote | She said the Georgia conflict would be over in 2 days.
Its Sorcha Faal. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 459297 8/17/2008 12:56 AM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote | I wouldn't comment but now she is saying that there are 1000 S. Ossetians dead. Still no list as far as I'm aware. She was obviously wrong that it would be over in a few days.
I have to give her the ....
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 483527 8/17/2008 2:40 AM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote |
Have events of last week, 50 ships from US UK and FR on way to Iran for blockade, and Russia invading Georgia changed the possibility of war?
SOZT
What occurred in Georgia was not a war, it was a police action, with the fault lying with Georgia.
EOZT
Bombs, rockets, thousands of boots on the ground, tanks, APC's and heavy artillery, dead bodies, destroyed homes....
"Police action" - you are retarded! Quoting: Prof_Rabbit
"Police action in military/security studies and international relations, is a euphemism for a military action undertaken without a formal declaration of war."
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Who's the retard? |
| Prof_Rabbit User ID: 148352 8/17/2008 3:03 AM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote |
"Police action in military/security studies and international relations, is a euphemism for a military action undertaken without a formal declaration of war."
[ link to en.wikipedia.org]
Who's the retard? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 483527
I see you have crawled up to the dizzy heights of moron, I am amazed you reached that far.
quote
Georgia declares war
Published: Saturday 09 August 2008 10:08 UTC
Last updated: Saturday 09 August 2008 10:08 UTC
Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili has made a formal declaration of war against Russia. He has also asked the Georgian parliament for permission to proclaim a state of siege. This would increase both his authority and that of the army leaders.
end quote "Anger is a wind that blows out the lamp of your mind" |
| The Lone Ranger  Guardian of actual "Truth"!! User ID: 475827 8/17/2008 3:16 AM
 | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote |
She said the Georgia conflict would be over in 2 days.
Its Sorcha Faal. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 459297

Zetababble 0% prediction accuracy track record CONTINUES.
Well done Ms LIEDer!!
Keep up the great work. You are exceptionally fantastic at making FAILED predictions  Life Is But A Dream!!
Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all." |
| The Lone Ranger  Guardian of actual "Truth"!! User ID: 475827 8/17/2008 3:35 AM
 | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote |
"Police action in military/security studies and international relations, is a euphemism for a military action undertaken without a formal declaration of war."
[ link to en.wikipedia.org]
Who's the retard?
I see you have crawled up to the dizzy heights of moron, I am amazed you reached that far.
quote
Georgia declares war
Published: Saturday 09 August 2008 10:08 UTC
Last updated: Saturday 09 August 2008 10:08 UTC
Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili has made a formal declaration of war against Russia. He has also asked the Georgian parliament for permission to proclaim a state of siege. This would increase both his authority and that of the army leaders.
end quote Quoting: Prof_Rabbit
......now if only they could remember where they left the zetababble fairytale Rogue Planet. Life Is But A Dream!!
Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 483527 8/17/2008 4:04 AM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote |
"Police action in military/security studies and international relations, is a euphemism for a military action undertaken without a formal declaration of war."
[ link to en.wikipedia.org]
Who's the retard?
I see you have crawled up to the dizzy heights of moron, I am amazed you reached that far.
quote
Georgia declares war
Published: Saturday 09 August 2008 10:08 UTC
Last updated: Saturday 09 August 2008 10:08 UTC
Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili has made a formal declaration of war against Russia. He has also asked the Georgian parliament for permission to proclaim a state of siege. This would increase both his authority and that of the army leaders.
end quote Quoting: Prof_Rabbit
Did Russia declare war before engaging Georgian forces in Sth Ossettia? NO! Their actions are therefore suitably described as a Police Action.
Who's the moron, retard? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 456034 8/17/2008 4:47 AM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote |
More nit picking and stretching Nancy's failed predictions and claims to fit the circumstances. This is safer than trying to defend or even acknowledge that the lady that has been dissing astronomers and accusing them of being part of a cover up has admitted that all these years she didn't even know how to read coordinates. The gullibility and blind faith of some people astounds me. |
| Prof_Rabbit User ID: 148352 8/17/2008 4:53 AM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote |
Did Russia declare war before engaging Georgian forces in Sth Ossettia? NO! Their actions are therefore suitably described as a Police Action.
Who's the moron, retard? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 483527
Who bloody cares? a declared war is a war! I apologize for thinking you reached moron, obviously you have a way to crawl before getting there. "Anger is a wind that blows out the lamp of your mind" |
| SixEyedcheeseball  Welcome User ID: 485806 8/17/2008 4:56 AM
 | | The Lone Ranger  Guardian of actual "Truth"!! User ID: 475827 8/17/2008 5:05 AM
 | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote |
More nit picking and stretching Nancy's failed predictions and claims to fit the circumstances. This is safer than trying to defend or even acknowledge that the lady that has been dissing astronomers and accusing them of being part of a cover up has admitted that all these years she didn't even know how to read coordinates. The gullibility and blind faith of some people astounds me. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 456034
Exactly. But the more DAMAGING problem for Ms LIEDer is that her simple ADMISSION reveals what we have known all along....Nancy is DEFINITELY not in communication with REAL ETs. Nancy just makes the crap up as she goes along. Hence all her documented inconsistencies over the years. Life Is But A Dream!!
Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all." |
| The Lone Ranger  Guardian of actual "Truth"!! User ID: 475827 8/17/2008 5:13 AM
 | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote |
Quoting: SixEyedcheeseball
 Life Is But A Dream!!
Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all." |
| Prof_Rabbit User ID: 148352 8/17/2008 6:13 AM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote |
Yes...
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger
Ditto "Anger is a wind that blows out the lamp of your mind" |
| DrPostman   Forum Moderator User ID: 51197 8/17/2008 6:24 AM
 | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote |
Did Russia declare war before engaging Georgian forces in Sth Ossettia? NO! Their actions are therefore suitably described as a Police Action.
Who's the moron, retard? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 483527
Didn't Nancy write: "Georgia invaded a UN protectorate"?
Why yes, she did.
Is South Ossetia a "UN Protectorate"?
No.
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live together in peace, and thereby transform this pending cosmic elegy into
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for all human conflict a method which rejects revenge, aggression, and retaliation.
The foundation of such a method is love."
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| Astro Annie User ID: 484094 8/17/2008 7:57 AM
 | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote | Lone Ranger, Professor Rabbit and the like: You used to really piss me off, disrupting and distracting my good read. Then, I learned to utilize my speed reading skills. When a hiccup occurs; i.e., when I run into you guys, now I just use my little ole finger to scoll right on by your posts. NO SENSE getting pissed off. You are paid to be here, just doing your job. I, then, can ignore you, as it is my choice to do so; thereby taking contol of the situation... I'm sure I'm not the only one to do just so! Since I can't be a good example, I'll just have to serve as a horrible warning... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 477041 8/17/2008 8:15 AM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote | test |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 486332 8/17/2008 9:16 AM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote |
Lone Ranger, Professor Rabbit and the like: You used to really piss me off, disrupting and distracting my good read. Then, I learned to utilize my speed reading skills. When a hiccup occurs; i.e., when I run into you guys, now I just use my little ole finger to scoll right on by your posts. NO SENSE getting pissed off. You are paid to be here, just doing your job. I, then, can ignore you, as it is my choice to do so; thereby taking contol of the situation... I'm sure I'm not the only one to do just so! Quoting: Astro Annie
If they weren't being paid to be here, then they, too, could just scroll past all the stuff that they say is bull shit or better yet, just say no to Zetatalk. But NNOOOO,
they can't stay away. It's either an unhealthy obsession or a paid job. |
| idle cpu cycles User ID: 485489 8/17/2008 9:31 AM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote | The ZetaGrid activities must come to a final end! Now all services are down and this domain will be closed soon. The official last update note was sent on December 1, 2005. Thanks for your interest to this community.
What is ZetaGrid?
ZetaGrid is a platform independent grid system that uses idle CPU cycles from participating computers. Grid computing can be used for any CPU intensive application which can be split into many separate steps and which would require very long computation times on a single computer. ZetaGrid can be run as a low-priority background process on various platforms like Windows, Linux, AIX, Solaris, HP-UX, and Mac OSX. On Windows systems it may also be run in screen saver mode.
ZetaGrid in practice:
At the IBM Development Laboratory in Böblingen ZetaGrid solves one problem in practice, running on six different platforms: The verification of Riemann's Hypothesis is considered to be one of modern mathematics most important problems.
This implementation involves more than 11,000 workstations and has a peak performance rate of about 7056 GFLOPS. More than 1 billion zeros for the zeta function are calculated every day.
To learn more about ZetaGrid, you have two options:
view grid monitoring data and statistics of the current implementation on our performance page.
participate in the calculation of zeros for the Riemann zeta function and download the client code from our software page to be one of our top producers who maybe wins a prize.
Technical details:
ZetaGrid provides a secure Java kernel, which does not allow access from the outside, and secures its communications and activities by restricted layer access with digital signatures (ElGamal public-key encryption) and key establishment protocols (half-certified Diffie-Hellman and ElGamal key agreement). The keys have a length of 1024 Bits. The framework of ZetaGrid provides management capabilities and is easy to use. Furthermore, it is supported on different platforms and has been proven to be stable.
See the following documents for more details.
[link to www.zetagrid.net]
The Riemann Hypothesis
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When studying the distribution of prime numbers Riemann extended Euler's zeta function (defined just for s with real part greater than one)
to the entire complex plane (sans simple pole at s = 1). Riemann noted that his zeta function had trivial zeros at -2, -4, -6, ... and that all nontrivial zeros he could calculate were symmetric about the line Re(s) = 1/2. The Riemann hypothesis is that all nontrivial zeros are on this line. Proving the Riemann Hypothesis would allow us to greatly sharpen many number theoretical results. For example, in 1901 von Koch showed that the Riemann hypothesis is equivalent to:
But it would not make factoring any easier! There are a couple standard ways to generalize the Riemann hypothesis..
1. The Riemann Hypothesis:
Euler studied the sum
for integers s>1 (clearly (1) is infinite). Euler discovered a formula relating (2k) to the Bernoulli numbers yielding results such as and . But what has this got to do with the primes? The answer is in the following product taken over the primes p (also discovered by Euler):
Euler wrote this as
Riemann later extended the definition of (s) to all complex numbers s (except the simple pole at s=1 with residue one). Euler's product still holds if the real part of s is greater than one. Riemann derived the functional equation of the Riemann zeta function:
where the gamma function (s) is the well-known extension of the factorial function ((n+1) = n! for non-negative integers n):
(Here the integral form holds if the real part of s is greater than one, and the product form holds for all complex numbers s.)
The Riemann zeta function has the trivial zeros at -2, -4, -6, ... (the poles of (s/2)). Using the Euler product (with the functional equation) it is easy to show that all the other zeros are in the critical strip of non-real complex numbers with 0 < Re(s) < 1, and that they are symmetric about the critical line Re(s)=1/2. The unproved Riemann hypothesis is that all of the nontrivial zeros are actually on the critical line.
In 1986 it was shown that the first 1,500,000,001 nontrivial zeros of the Riemann zeta function do indeed have real part one-half [VTW86]. Hardy proved in 1915 that an infinite number of the zeros do occur on the critical line and in 1989 Conrey showed that over 40% of the zeros in the critical strip are on the critical line [Conrey89]. However, there is still a chance that the Riemann hypothesis is false. From August of 2001 through 2005, Sebastian Wedeniwski ran ZetaGrid which verified that the first 100 billion zeros were on the critical line.
2. Who cares?
In 1900 Hilbert listed proving or disproving this hypothesis as one of the most important unsolved problems confronting modern mathematics and it is central to understanding the overall distribution of the primes. When Hadamard and de la Vallee Poussin proved the prime number theorem, they actually showed
for some positive constant a, and they did this by bounding the real part of the zeros in the critical strip away from 0 and 1. The error term is directly dependent on what was known about the zero-free region within the critical strip. As our knowledge of the size of this region increases, the error term decreases. In fact, in 1901 von Koch showed that the Riemann hypothesis is equivalent to
There are many results like this, see, for example [BS96].
Generalizations of RH
Recall again our starting point from Euler:
Why should the numerators all be one? One important way to alter the series is to replace the numerators with functions χ(n) called Dirichlet characters (these can be viewed as functions for which there exists a positive integer k with χ(n + k) = χ(n) for all n, and with χ(n) = 0 whenever gcd(n, k) > 1). The resulting infinite sum L(?,s) is a Dirichlet L-function. Once again we analytically continue the function to one that is meromophic on the entire complex plane. The extended Riemann Hypothesis is that for every Dirichlet character χ and the zeros L(χ,s) = 0 with 0 < Re(s) < 1, have real part 1/2. The distributions of the zeros of these L-functions are closely related to the number of primes in arithmetic progressions with a fixed difference k. Should the extended Riemann Hypothesis be proven, then Miller's test would provide an efficient primality proof for general numbers. See, for example, [BS96 8.5-6].
Another way to generalize Euler's sum is to leave the field of rational numbers, and replace the denominators with the norms of the non-zero ideals (special sets of elements) in a finite field extention of the rationals K (called a number field). The resulting sum is the Dedekind zeta-function of K and can again be analytically continued. These zeta functions also have a simple pole at zero and infinitely many zero in the critical region. The generalized Riemann Hypothesis is again that the zeros in the critical region all have real part 1/2. See, for example, [BS96 8.7].
[link to www.zetagrid.net]
all compensatory motivation is now transparant. |
| Enkis Ghost User ID: 345601 8/17/2008 9:41 AM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote | Peace, love, understanding- little sister...
The grey are not man kinds equal yet, let alone enkis....
Enkis track record is well known across multiverse, has helped to save humans from themselves, as well as Greys, Pleisadean, Nordics and others not yet known by mankind....Enki is over 4.5 BILLION years old....
Enkis prediction for the Greys, they will be dissed by almost all other life forms and fade away into pages of history....
Prediction for Council of Worlds, individual present members stripped of all authority and outcast from the roles of special souls...Council itself perm. disbanded, its function fulfilled by even older wiser souls...
We do NOT throw baby souls into the deep end of shark infested pools to teach them to swim...
This IS what happened to Greys which is why they are such a bitter race...Their Mother Earth dead before they even understood what it was....Because of existing Faux logic/policies of Council...
ANY life form still using space ships, stil dwelling at all in the lower dimensions is to be Pitied not admired!!!
The medicine they are being forced to swallow tastes as bile but it is called med. for a reason, selfless service isn't supposed to taste good!! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 483527 8/17/2008 10:11 AM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote |
Did Russia declare war before engaging Georgian forces in Sth Ossettia? NO! Their actions are therefore suitably described as a Police Action.
Who's the moron, retard?
Who bloody cares? a declared war is a war! I apologize for thinking you reached moron, obviously you have a way to crawl before getting there. Quoting: Prof_Rabbit
Obviously you have a way to crawl before you're mature enough to admit you're wrong with good grace rather than post shit like this. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 485489 8/17/2008 10:17 AM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote | We are emissaries of the planet "Ridiculie" we have come to expose every variation of "the lie" that enslaves mankind. Take me to your Lieder!
Discovery Channel's Miracle Man: John of God was generally a letdown with nary a skeptic among the resource persons consulted and interviewed. There were no professionals who had a skeptical perspective on this. All the MDs and PhDs interviewed were to a lesser or greater degree tendential toward pseudoscience and spiritual gibberish, with Gary Schwartz topping the list. An Indian guy named Goswami spewed nothing but gobbledygook about quantum physics, soul, and whatnot. The program had to rephrase what he said since, frankly, he was incomprehensible. I think this guy needs to do some serious searching on the floor for all the zillion bolts that have fallen off his cranium. (An aside: The Holy Text of Woowoo exhorts, "To impress your audience always append 'quantum' to all your drivel.")
João Teixeira da Faria known as Joao de Deus (John of God) we're told doesn't do miracles. He merely channels "entities." And among those spirits that he's channeled are--get a load of this--King Solomon and St. Francis of Assisi. I presume J.Z. Knight still wins hands down, at least in terms of the oldest entity channeled (her Ramtha lived some 35,000 years ago)
The program actually showed the somewhat graphic scenes--having forceps shoved up the nose, aggressively twisted and with bleeding in some cases, and having eyes slightly touched or gently scraped with a knife. Unfortunately, we are never told that the former is the Blockhead Trick introduced in 1926 by Melvin Burkhardt. Neither are we told that eye-scraping is a trick that another Brazilian named Jose Pedro de Feitas, aka Arigo, had used in his own healings about a quarter of a century ago. Not surprisingly, John of God copies yet another technique of Arigo: making cuts on the patient. Both Arigo and John make incisions on various parts of a patient's body. In John's case there are instances when he apparently takes tissues (perhaps cysts of some sort) out of a patient. Arigo had at least in one instance performed such surgery. He took out a lipoma--a fatty tissue growth. A lipoma is benign and its excision is by no means life-threatening nor does its removal require much expertise at all.
In Flim-Flam! (1982) James Randi explains all of the above devices by Arigo. In the same book there are two photos on page 177: one of Arigo with the tip of a knife tucked under his right eyelid and the other of Randi doing the same thing. Randi notes that "the stunt is easily done, and painless.... It simply does not hurt, and anyone can do it." (My lawyers demand that I issue this disclaimer: You should not try this at home or at work. And should you go ahead with the trick and out of sheer stupidity inadvertently stab your eye, sue Randi not me.)
Among the various patients featured was Asian-American Roland Nip. He traveled to John's center known as Casa de Dom Inacio, in Abadiana, Brazil in the hopes of foregoing with heart surgery to correct what is known as a mitral valve prolapse, a condition whereby a valve in the heart fails to close properly when the heart is pumping, thereby allowing backflow of blood.
Roland went through "invisible surgery" which was nothing more than sitting in a room, closing one's eyes, and meditating (we're not told whether these people were taught some specific type of meditation or not). The surgery itself was allegedly performed by spiritual entities while they were meditating. (I take issue with that claim. The truth is that it is aliens from the star system Zeta Ridiculi who perform the operation. These Ridiculeans miniaturize themselves and from their planet far far away on the other side of the Milky Way they beam themselves via Star Trek technology into the affected area of the patient and start having a medical crew do the necessary work. And by the way they have Klingon cloaking technology so they're invisible to any imaging device we may have.)
To cut to the chase, after the hocus-pocus surgery a check by Roland's doctor back home revealed that his heart still has a murmur--indicative that blood is still backflowing and that the valve problem remains unresolved. Unfazed, Roland has gone back a second time to John the scammer.
I can empathize well with Roland because I too have the exact same condition. Unlike Roland, however, I have my head screwed on right and would rather expose faith healers of all ilk rather than throw myself into their hands in some vain hope of mending my broken heart. (Guess what types of people and what kind of thinking break my heart.)
What made me roll on the floor laughing like mad was the case of a patient named Laura. She had some type of cancer which if I heard right had metastasized (I can't be sure because Laura was anything but medical savvy). Well, she went to the Casa to see John of course. But after some time instead of getting better she felt various new "tumors" (as she called them) erupting on her neck and head. What John did after hearing of her worsening condition simply threw me to the ground. He relayed to Laura that spirits had told him that she was to immediately go to the city of Brasilia and get medical help from (real) doctors. Hearing this Laura wasted no time and did as told. Examined by doctors she was put on an antibiotic regimen and had chemotherapy. And sure enough the swelling in her neck subsided and she began feeling much better.
Folks, it was conventional scientific medicine and treatment performed by MDs in a hospital which cured Laura! The most abominable thing in this fiasco is that even after it was obvious that it was mainstream medicine--something that Laura admitted to detest--that rid her of her "tumors" she continued to attribute her healing to the entities, saying that seeking medical help was how the entities wanted her healing to proceed. Now that's the kind of twisted thinking brought on by blind belief. Woowoos like Laura will believe what they want to believe, regardless of evidence or lack of it.
[link to hokum-balderdash.blogspot.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 486361 8/17/2008 10:51 AM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote |
The Zetas say that the giant hominoids from Nibiru did not genetically engineered men but it was "the teams of genetic engineers who periodically descended on Earth to check on their handiwork, and left when mankind had made another leap".
Who exactly were those genetic engineers? Were they STO or STS and where did they come from?
SOZT
Engineers are never STS, as these entities are not allowed to do this work. Just who they were and where they came from is irrelevant. You would not relate to our explanation. We have stated, however, that they were reptilian as well as hominoids, but your engineers were many, life forms of all types, all cooperating.
EOZT Quoting: Nancy Lieder |
| DrPostman   Forum Moderator User ID: 51197 8/17/2008 5:56 PM
 | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote |
Lone Ranger, Professor Rabbit and the like: You used to really piss me off, disrupting and distracting my good read. Then, I learned to utilize my speed reading skills. When a hiccup occurs; i.e., when I run into you guys, now I just use my little ole finger to scoll right on by your posts. NO SENSE getting pissed off. You are paid to be here, just doing your job. I, then, can ignore you, as it is my choice to do so; thereby taking contol of the situation... I'm sure I'm not the only one to do just so! Quoting: Astro Annie
A wonderful argument for willful ignorance. Can't let anything
challenge your beliefs, even if reality smacks you in the
face it's your belief, damnit!
 "Sooner or later all the peoples of the world will have to discover a way to
live together in peace, and thereby transform this pending cosmic elegy into
a creative psalm of brotherhood. If this is to be achieved, man must evolve
for all human conflict a method which rejects revenge, aggression, and retaliation.
The foundation of such a method is love."
--Reverend Martin Luther King
Can't PM? Feel free to email me at
DrPostman(at)gmail.com
Want to know if a site is down, or if
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| picesnator User ID: 318318 8/17/2008 6:12 PM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote | :8undercove:
i'm back........ |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 486056 8/17/2008 6:54 PM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 16 | Quote |
Lone Ranger, Professor Rabbit and the like: You used to really piss me off, disrupting and distracting my good read. Then, I learned to utilize my speed reading skills. When a hiccup occurs; i.e., when I run into you guys, now I just use my little ole finger to scoll right on by your posts. NO SENSE getting pissed off. You are paid to be here, just doing your job. I, then, can ignore you, as it is my choice to do so; thereby taking contol of the situation... I'm sure I'm not the only one to do just so!
A wonderful argument for willful ignorance. Can't let anything
challenge your beliefs, even if reality smacks you in the
face it's your belief, damnit! Quoting: DrPostman
Go to her livejournal entries and you'll see she's one of the "true believers". |
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