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***American G.I.s are coming to Israel's Negev desert – and this time they’re staying---> to install warning missile radars

 
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U.S., Israel seal deal for missile radar defense system

By Amos Harel



The United States and Israel have agreed on the deployment of high-powered, early-warning missile radars in the Negev desert, to be manned by U.S. military personnel.

The radars, known as X-Band, will be linked to a U.S. satellite-based alert network.

A spokesman for the Pentagon's Missile Defense Agency (MDA) said the new system could double or even triple the missiles' range of identification, which would be particularly useful should Iran launch an attack on Israel.

Details of the deal, which caught the public's attention at the end of July, were reported yesterday in the periodical Defense News, and were corroborated by senior U.S. and Israeli officials.

The agreement had previously been discussed in meetings with Israel Defense Forces Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Gabi Ashkenazi and his American counterpart, Admiral Mike Mullen, and by civilian defense leaders of both countries.

According to the periodical, the radar will be operated by staff from the U.S. European Command, starting in early 2009.

The system's deployment may even be moved up to this autumn, in order to integrate it with the Arrow missile defense system.

Under the terms of the agreement, U.S. military staff will be permanently based in Israel for the first time. U.S. Army personnel were temporarily based in the country during the first Gulf War in 1991, and during brief periods of tension with Iraq following that conflict.

Lt. Gen. Henry Obering, the head of MDA, told Defense News that from his perspective, "We're moving ahead as quickly as we can."

The IDF's current early-warning system, known as Green Pine and a component of the Arrow network, has a range of 800-900 kilometers. When combined with the American satellite system, its range expands to 2000 kilometers.

"We've been studying architectures to provide an integrated layered defense that will plug into various architectures for the region for many years," he said. "And having an X-Band radar, like the one we have in Japan, has always been part of our calculation."

An Israeli security expert said the significance of the deal lies primarily in its linking Israel with the U.S. satellite system, which will add "precious minutes" to its early warning ability.

[link to www.haaretz.com]
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Good Luck with that.
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DISABLING SYRIAN AIR DEFENCE RADARS & IRANIAN MISSILES THROUGH HPM JAMMING

Israel Tests Improved Arrow Interceptor
Dec 17, 2005 David A. Fulghum WWW.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_ge neric.jsp?channel=awst&id=news/12195p3.x ml

Israel's long-range, Green Pine radar- used to find targets for the Arrow 2 air defense missile is being upgraded and doubled in power, possibly making it a candidate for conversion into a directed-energy weapon for use against Iranian and Syrian threats.

Changes needed to focus the Green Pine radar's transmitter/receiver elements into a single beam so that it could function as a weapon.

It's very interesting-we do have activity regarding higher power for the radar, but mainly to achieve longer range says a senior Israeli official. We are going to double the power. In Israel, people are looking seriously at directed energy

A Pentagon radar specialist says the potential for the array would probably not be in ballistic missile defense, because warheads are so well shielded. But it could be an excellent weapon to defend against aircraft and cruise missiles, Amraam-type air-to-air missiles or surface-to-air homing missiles, he notes, because they are vulnerable to jamming of their guidance systems and other electronics.

Meanwhile, Israelis acknowledge they are tracking U.S. efforts to demonstrate anti-missile weapons using high-power microwave (HPM) arrays and focused radar beams. A Vigilant Eagle HPM prototype has disabled shoulder-fired, surface-to-air missiles; and MP-RTIP, an active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar, is being eyed as an anti-cruise missile weapon. With the right software modifications, virtually any AESA radar--particularly large, long-range, anti-missile arrays--could be used as a directed-energy weapon by focusing pulses of radar energy on target missiles. The energy spikes are tailored to enter missiles through antennas or sensor apertures where they can fool guidance systems, scramble computer memories or even burn out sensitive electronic components.

HPM does virtually the same thing using different frequencies, shorter and higher power pulses, and somewhat similar T/R modules. In fact, the dropping price of T/R modules is a factor in the recent rapid development of HPM and radar weapons.

The Green Pine radar, like Vigilant Eagle and MP-RTIP, is an AESA system. Its original design left considerable room for the addition of many more transmitter/receiver modules on the face of the radar. As a result, say IAI researchers, the "Super Green Pine," due out in 2006-07, is expected to produce double the power output (a number they will not reveal) of the first-generation design. Vigilant Eagle and MP-RTIP both feature a 21-ft. antenna. Green Pine, by comparison, has a 36 X 12-ft. array.

The Arrow and Green Pine systems were exercised Dec. 2 as part of a two-layered missile defense system (after being linked to a lower altitude Patriot missile battery) in a live-fire test at Palmachim AFB, south of Tel Aviv. Link 16 communications are expected to tie the system into U.S. Aegis missile-defense ships and Patriot batteries.

It was the first flight of the Arrow 2 M4 interceptor with a new electronic package and software blocks co-produced by IAI and Boeing. The Black Sparrow target was launched from an F-15 flying over the sea. The interceptor was launched from Palmachim. Israeli officials would release few details about the test other than it involved an "extreme scenario." Defense analysts are worried that Iran is developing decoys and maneuvering warheads (or those that break up or spiral) for its Shihab 3 (a variant of North Korea's No-Dong 2) or planned Shihab 4 missiles, which could be combined with a nuclear warhead, says one of the Israeli officials. They are also concerned about Syria's development of a more advanced version of its Scud-D ballistic missile.

Improvements to the Green Pine system allow analysts to use the signal phase and polarization changes in radar returns to more accurately identify warheads and decoys. They have also been concerned with high reentry speeds with the Shihab 3 and 4.

Israeli planners also have reassessed how they will deploy what were to have been three batteries of missiles and radars.
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Are these to stop retaliatory attacks after Iran is attacked?


Will they stop a horde of suicide bombers if they work I wonder...
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Are these to stop retaliatory attacks after Iran is attacked?


Will they stop a horde of suicide bombers if they work I wonder...
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Sounds like Israel and the US are preparing the scenario just in case of an Iranian reponse.
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so ummm what's next, Israel Joins NATO?
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Jesus.

Anyone notice a snowballing effect? Everything is speeding up, like the NWO's decisions with government, etc...


...scary.
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so ummm what's next, Israel Joins NATO?
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I believe nobody wants us there.
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Jesus.

Anyone notice a snowballing effect? Everything is speeding up, like the NWO's decisions with government, etc...


...scary.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 483120


a-mega-doom is coming...in another words....Armageddon just around the corner.
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Jesus.

Anyone notice a snowballing effect? Everything is speeding up, like the NWO's decisions with government, etc...


...scary.


a-mega-doom is coming...in another words....Armageddon just around the corner.
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:armagedon:
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Don't do this Naked.
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not available....can you try again?
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Re: ***American G.I.s are coming to Israel's Negev desert – and this time they’re staying---> to install warning missile radars
a-mega-doom is coming...in another words....Armageddon just around the corner.


Oh how wonderful for you!!
you're so damn cheery about dying
truly truly incredible !
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a-mega-doom is coming...in another words....Armageddon just around the corner.


Oh how wonderful for you!!
you're so damn cheery about dying
truly truly incredible !
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 479083

sfan tomato wtf bsflag
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What a waste of our tax dollars!
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What a waste of our tax dollars!
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rant
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Re: ***American G.I.s are coming to Israel's Negev desert – and this time they’re staying---> to install warning missile radars
New Radar System Increases Warning Time of Iranian Missile

by Hana Levi Julian


(IsraelNN.com) American G.I.s are coming to Israel's Negev desert – and this time they’re staying.

According to a report published in Defense News this weekend, the United States and Israel have signed an agreement to deploy the “X-band FBX-T” early-warning missile radar system, which is linked to a U.S. satellite-based alert network.

Deployment of the X-band comes as part of America's agreement to help defend the Jewish State against any future strike by a nuclear-armed Islamic Republic.

For the first time ever, military personnel from the U.S. European Command are to be permanently based in Israel, in order to staff the high-powered radar system, built by the Raytheon Company.

Although the original target date for the system’s debut was early 2009, it is likely that the date will be moved up to sometime this autumn, in order to allow personnel to integrate the system with the Arrow missile defense system.

The new system is expected to double – and possibly triple – the range of identification of incoming missiles aimed at the Jewish State, according to a spokesman for the Pentagon’s Missile Defense Agency (M.D.A.). The official said the X-band system can track an object the size of a baseball from a distance of more than 2,000 kilometers.

The system currently employed by the IDF, a component of the Arrow system dubbed “Green Pine,” has a range of only 800-900 kilometers. Once the “X-band” is integrated with the Arrow system that range of identification will expand to 2,000 kilometers.

The new range allows the Israeli public an effective window of approximately five minutes in which to prepare for a Shehab-3 ballistic missile attack from Iran. It similarly gives the IDF five minutes in which to intercept the Iranian missiles.



Arutz Sheva news
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so where did the funding for that come from.

pennywise lol
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You know that young palistine kids are going to throw rocks at it, triggering it off and then running away. You might want to keep some bulldozers on the site, to chase unwanted intruders away.
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Re: ***American G.I.s are coming to Israel's Negev desert – and this time they’re staying---> to install warning missile radars
Aug 17, 2008 15:06 | Updated Aug 17, 2008 15:40
Iran says its warplanes are capable of reaching IsraelBy ASSOCIATED PRESS



Iran claimed Sunday it has increased the range of its warplanes, allowing them to fly as far as Israel and back without refueling.

State TV quoted air force chief Gen. Ahmad Mighani as saying Iranian warplanes can now fly 3,000 kilometers without refueling. He didn't specify the aircraft type or explain how the range was extended.

Israel is about 1,000 kilometers from Iran.
Such a range could be achieved by using external fuel tanks attached to the wings or fuselage that can be released when empty.

Sunday's report did not refer to Israel by name, but Mighani's remarks come after an IAF air exercise in June that US officials described as a possible rehearsal for a strike on Iran's nuclear facilities.

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Aug 17, 2008 15:06 | Updated Aug 17, 2008 15:40
Iran says its warplanes are capable of reaching IsraelBy ASSOCIATED PRESS



Iran claimed Sunday it has increased the range of its warplanes, allowing them to fly as far as Israel and back without refueling.

 Quoting: ~GAIA~


Hilarious, how exactly do they plan getting past US air assets?

Too funny!
"Everybody lies."
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Aug 17, 2008 15:06 | Updated Aug 17, 2008 15:40
Iran says its warplanes are capable of reaching IsraelBy ASSOCIATED PRESS



Iran claimed Sunday it has increased the range of its warplanes, allowing them to fly as far as Israel and back without refueling.



Hilarious, how exactly do they plan getting past US air assets?

Too funny!
 Quoting: G. House

maybe they are too advanced for us and their planes flight the light speed.....and none of us will notice them coming


ahhh
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so where did the funding for that come from.

pennywise lol
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Three guesses. From the US taxpayers, what's left of the US working class. About 75 million dollars a day goes to Israel, not to mention fighting Israel's wars for them, and Israel's false flag terror attacks on us, like the USS Liberty and 911 - and meanwhile our infrastructure disintegrates, millions homeless and without health care, and our own borders almost completely wide open - and here tehy are preparing for their next Holocaust - in Iran this time.

War without end. War is peace.
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Good Luck with that.
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So much for the Princess of Propaganda taking a vacation.

And then they wonder why no one believes their bullshit anymore.

A Jew couldn't keep their word if their life depended on it.
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Hopefully they are true patriotic American soldiers and the real purpose of their trip is to pay back Mossad for 9-11, so while they are there they rig something to blow up the Israeli nuclear facility, of course everyone can blame it on Iran and then they can blow each other out of existence and make the world a better place.
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So much for the Princess of Propaganda taking a vacation.

And then they wonder why no one believes their bullshit anymore.

A Jew couldn't keep their word if their life depended on it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 434862

Vacation is over, do you mind?
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"Well, God is in heaven
And we all want what's his
But power and greed and corruptible seed
Seem to be all that there is."

Bob Dylan
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"Well, God is in heaven
And we all want what's his
But power and greed and corruptible seed
Seem to be all that there is."

Bob Dylan
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agent
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But..But...What if it is NOT a missle???? Awwwww!
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But..But...What if it is NOT a missle???? Awwwww!
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what else?





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