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Unbiased opinion on crop circles?
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 486312
8/17/2008 3:56 PM | | Re: Unbiased opinion on crop circles? | Quote |
....debunking, debunking and more debunking Quoting: TunafishSammiches
so debunker the question was how many crop circles did you hoax? (or are you just theory debunker like you are a great lover in theory but with no practical experience in real life)
none? how so when it is so easy to hoax?
what you have no friends and beer and lonely nights?
you should try to do it in front of cameras and in day light and make some big money.
easy money if it easy to hoax.
and of course use "beam me up scotty" technique to be all around the world to hoax all crop circles.
to be on topic.. of course there are hoax crop circles but all 100% is: no chanse |
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canislatrans 
Coyote
User ID: 239608
8/17/2008 3:57 PM
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Obviously there are reasons why crop grows vertically, not horizontally. Not to mention that the actual harvesting does not pick flattened crop, unless you do it by manual labour. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 236037
I agree entirely, and when I said the plants are not damaged, and continue to grow, that generally means they will grow upwards again after being flattened down. I suppose that would depend on when the plants are harvested, however. My only point is that the plants are not destroyed by the crop circle.
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music. |
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emerald_glow
User ID: 379016
8/17/2008 4:00 PM
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Hi all, I am the one started this thread. (Some reason signed me out after logging on)
The circlemakers.org website looks convincing at first, but with a second look the formations look a bit less perfect, and most of the are no circular. Also hard to believe they go this far to make artworks or fool people. This is a lot of money, travel, efforts invested while admittedly risking legal consequences from the landowners.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 236037
8/17/2008 4:04 PM | | Re: Unbiased opinion on crop circles? | Quote |
I agree entirely, and when I said the plants are not damaged, and continue to grow, that generally means they will grow upwards again after being flattened down. I suppose that would depend on when the plants are harvested, however. My only point is that the plants are not destroyed by the crop circle. Quoting: canislatrans
How often are these crop circles with bent nodes found? I suppose there is also some independent researh done on those? |
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canislatrans
Coyote
User ID: 239608
8/17/2008 4:06 PM
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Hi all, I am the one started this thread. (Some reason signed me out after logging on)
The circlemakers.org website looks convincing at first, but with a second look the formations look a bit less perfect, and most of the are no circular. Also hard to believe they go this far to make artworks or fool people. This is a lot of money, travel, efforts invested while admittedly risking legal consequences from the landowners. Quoting: emerald_glow
There is a lot more information you can check out at www.cropcircleconnector.com . Check out the links I posted on the first page as well, they have some good information.
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music. |
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canislatrans
Coyote
User ID: 239608
8/17/2008 4:08 PM
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How often are these crop circles with bent nodes found? I suppose there is also some independent researh done on those? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 236037
Check out the links I posted on the first page. They have information about scientific studies that were done. You can see they have cited information from scientists and doctors who have studied these affected plants.
I am guessing the bent nodes are found in all "legitimate" crop circles. There are fake crop circles where they are not found.
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music. |
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Skipper1975
User ID: 448826
8/17/2008 4:08 PM | |
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 484880
8/17/2008 4:13 PM | | Re: Unbiased opinion on crop circles? | Quote |
Sorry, but THAT video was proven years ago to be CGI. Recognised nearly everywhere (if not by you) to be a computer hoax. |
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emerald_glow
User ID: 379016
8/17/2008 4:14 PM
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There are many faked circles, but there are many that have aspects that haven't been replicated in faked circles. Such as:
Swollen/boiled plant nodes
Radiation in/around crop circle site
elaborate patterns within flattened crops, ie. not replicable with board and rope
bent unbendable plants
etc..
Here is more information about the things listed above
[ link to www.greatdreams.com]
[ link to www.geocities.com]
Thank you for the l;inks, Canislatrans!
Scientific research seems to support that they are not made by ordinary means, but using some kind of hi-tech tools.
How come no one ever looked for footsteps, (or the track of some kind of flattening device)? Fingerprints, human hair etc? Criminal investigation methods could easiliy prove which ones are human made.
No scientific proof to support the debunkers...or is there any?
We are all ONE. I feel your pain, and -if you open up enough- you can share my joy as well. As empathy is growing on personal and global level, so the world becomes a better place to live. Fight, competition, hate, fear, anger, guilt will be "losers".
There is only ONE commandment, it is coming from inside: DON'T HARM (except when you defend yourself). |
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Skipper1975
User ID: 448826
8/17/2008 4:17 PM | | Re: Unbiased opinion on crop circles? | Quote |
Sorry, but THAT video was proven years ago to be CGI. Recognised nearly everywhere (if not by you) to be a computer hoax. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 484880
lol..cant handle the truth?
the truth will be known on this planet soon enough:)
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[link to lightworkers.org] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 409684
8/17/2008 8:02 PM | | Re: Unbiased opinion on crop circles? | Quote |
I have heard different opinions on them: like "a group is making them at night to attract visitors to villages"
others are "believers" and ready with the answer that UFO-s communicating with us earthlings - well, trying to - this way.
Is there anyone with a clean explanation on how is it possible for humans to make them, and why does it worth the trouble to go through for the financial gain?
Or on the other side is there anyone who actually saw them "in the making"? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 379016
they are usually created when the space shuttle is in orbit
you can draw your own conclusion from that |
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<October>
User ID: 427959
8/17/2008 8:09 PM
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The original 'circles' were real...then some hoaxers started making them.
After that, most people believed that they were all been hoaxed.
T'ain't so, eh!
I wonder why open-minded, mainstream scientists haven't tried to get to the bottom of things.
Maybe cuz they don't have open minds... 
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 234262
8/17/2008 8:24 PM | | Re: Unbiased opinion on crop circles? | Quote |
hoax one perfect corp circle, make video and post on youtube.... in meantime
yeah ok you're right it's entirely more likely it's the greys taking out revenge on the corn species due a millenia long war between them and it's only now that the corn people have evolved into a docile dormant state that the greys can have their revenge.
It's not hard to make a perfect circle if you have a piece of rope tied to a pole in the center
If this is what you believe, then I think most of your brains ended up in your boobs. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 378549
8/17/2008 9:04 PM | | Re: Unbiased opinion on crop circles? | Quote |
Scientific research seems to support that they are not made by ordinary means, but using some kind of hi-tech tools. Quoting: emerald_glow
The high tech tools are most likely satellite based masers. A maser is similar to a laser but operates in a different part of the electromagnetic spectrum that isn't visible to the human eye. It would explain the blown nodes on the crop stalks. Researchers say putting said stalks in a microwave produces identical results of blown nodes.
Maser stands for Microwave Amplification Stimulated Emission Radiation
As far as a satellite being able to generate the required power to operate such a device, it's not a problem. Solar cells on satellites have much less attenuation of the incoming sunlight than those used on the ground so the required energy is not hard to generate. State of the art solar cells, power electronics, battery and ultracapacitor technology complement the solar power supply for a maser which uses short duration, high instantaneous power pulses. And state of the art would mean the classifed military level, not consumer.
The same debunkers who will say solar powered satellites with significant power capability don't exist, probably watch satellite TV and don't know how the signal gets to their dish. They also refuse to accept that anything could exist that is classified that they don't know about because they know everything.
Tunasmellingsnatch probably can't grasp any of this, so she ought to just shut the fuck up. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 409684
8/17/2008 9:05 PM | | Re: Unbiased opinion on crop circles? | Quote |
of course they are man made using technology |
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ViperThunder
User ID: 485021
8/17/2008 9:17 PM
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I really don't care who makes them. If aliens made them then I would hate aliens for being so elusive! If people made them, well I wouldn't be surprised at all!
At least they are nice to look at :)
Let There Be Peace |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 459297
8/18/2008 1:52 AM | | Re: Unbiased opinion on crop circles? | Quote |
hoax one perfect corp circle, make video and post on youtube.... in meantime
yeah ok you're right it's entirely more likely it's the greys taking out revenge on the corn species due a millenia long war between them and it's only now that the corn people have evolved into a docile dormant state that the greys can have their revenge.
It's not hard to make a perfect circle if you have a piece of rope tied to a pole in the center
If this is what you believe, then I think most of your brains ended up in your boobs.
She/he didn't even look at the link I posted. Thre are no simple circles there. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 3514
8/18/2008 2:28 PM | | Re: Unbiased opinion on crop circles? | Quote |
She/he didn't even look at the link I posted. Thre are no simple circles there. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 459297
Once a debunker hears the Doug and Dave boards and string theory of crop circles, that's it, nothing will change their mind. It is all woo woo all the time from there on out.
Once you know everything, there's no need to learn anything new. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 378549
8/18/2008 10:36 PM | | Re: Unbiased opinion on crop circles? | Quote |
She/he didn't even look at the link I posted. Thre are no simple circles there.
Once a debunker hears the Doug and Dave boards and string theory of crop circles, that's it, nothing will change their mind. It is all woo woo all the time from there on out.
Once you know everything, there's no need to learn anything new. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3514
Yeah, that's tunasnatch. |
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TunafishSammiches
User ID: 451909
8/18/2008 10:37 PM
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Yeah, that's tunasnatch. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 378549
Last titty you saw was yo momma's |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 482455
8/18/2008 10:39 PM | | Re: Unbiased opinion on crop circles? | Quote |
Fake. All of 'em. |
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TunafishSammiches
User ID: 451909
8/18/2008 10:52 PM
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Fake. All of 'em. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 482455
Just like he momma's titties OHHHHH |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 57834
8/18/2008 11:17 PM | | Re: Unbiased opinion on crop circles? | Quote |
Watch the youtube you demented idiot.
AGH TEH ALIENS ARE TRYING TO REACH US VIA CORNFIELDS FOR SOME IDIOTIC REASON AGH DURRRR DURRRRR DURRR
Go wrap your head in tinfoil, and preferably make it air tight. Quoting: TunafishSammiches
Your strong reaction and personal attacks are a dead give away that you're just a shill. You're not fooling anyone except for the sheeple who are already clueless. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 410747
8/18/2008 11:28 PM | | Re: Unbiased opinion on crop circles? | Quote |
They're made by people who plot out the details beforehand, then use ropes and planks of wood to bend the corn over.
It's a hoax and always has been. Quoting: TunafishSammiches
I concur. Can I have some of your tuna fish sammich? Looks mighty tasty!!! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 487273
8/18/2008 11:29 PM | | Re: Unbiased opinion on crop circles? | Quote |
seems most people dom't give them credence because most assume if not man made then it must be alien. If alien, then why do this at all - and a good question.
But why does alien have to be the only answer. There are more than two possabilities.
some ideas
man made - planks and strings
aliens did it
man made - space based technology
earth consciousness
communication from other dimensions
God
cosmic consciuosness
group human consciousness
who know?
i personally think along the lines of earth consciousness |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 444738
8/19/2008 12:56 AM | | Re: Unbiased opinion on crop circles? | Quote |
Umm, are you seriously suggesting that flattened out crop is "harvested as usual"?
it keeps obn growing. and the next year where the circle was, the crops are more energetic. doh, now why am i trying to explain high science. i'm outta here. (beam me up scottie)
So high science is essentially smoking a bong and rambling on about whatever your drug addled brain come sup with... good to know. Quoting: TunafishSammiches
Your tactics are transparent. |
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Free Store.
User ID: 141562
8/19/2008 1:16 AM
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Sometimes anything alien that is Alien scares people
If you were meant to have a sighting or visit..you were meant to
Crop Circles are a universal language..
[link to www.x-cosmos.it]
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 459297
8/19/2008 1:27 AM | | Re: Unbiased opinion on crop circles? | Quote |
Sometimes anything alien that is Alien scares people
If you were meant to have a sighting or visit..you were meant to
Crop Circles are a universal language..
[ link to www.x-cosmos.it]
I think you are right. They scare people so they give the explanation that its two men with a piece of string. That explanation was given after the small circular plain ones. They stick to that. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 459297
8/19/2008 2:01 AM | | Re: Unbiased opinion on crop circles? | Quote |
I didn't really look into them until 2001 and the third one down. Then I got a book on them from the library last year and saw all the intricate designs. That was only last year. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 459297
8/19/2008 2:03 AM | | Re: Unbiased opinion on crop circles? | Quote |
[link to www.x-cosmos.it]
One of them on there is 3D. Another is absolutely massive. Another is a reply to the message sent by Sagan three weeks after it was sent out. (Thats the top one). I can't even remember that one being mentioned on the news. You would think it would have been big news.
People ignore what they can't understand. |
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