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Microsoft to unveil Windows 7 features next month
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 484178
8/17/2008 7:49 PM
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Redmond (WA) – There is no denying that the initial news about Windows 7, Vista’s successor, weren’t especially great for Microsoft. Vista is by far not as successful as Microsoft would have hoped and Windows 7 will have to carry the company until a completely new operating system, speculated to be code-named Midori, will be available. So, will Windows 7 be another Vista? Will it lag behind OS X Snow Leopard? Is multi-touch UI really as great as Microsoft claims it will be?
It seems that Microsoft is now confident enough to offer a sneak peek at the new Windows features at its upcoming developer and hardware conferences in October and November. It even set up an official Windows 7 blog on which senior engineers promise to discuss the operating system with users. It is a different approach than what the company took with Vista and appears that the wave of Vista criticism has had an impact.
Microsoft said that it will publicly reveal details and "in-depth technical information" about Windows 7 to developers attending its Professional Developers Conference (PDC) set to take place from October 26-29 and at the Windows Hardware Engineering Conference (WinHEC) scheduled for November 5-7.
Writing on the new Windows 7 blog, Steven Sinofsky and Jon DeVaan, senior engineering team leaders, pledged to document the pace of development and offer a peak at Windows 7 features in the works from time to time. "With this blog we're opening up a two-way discussion about how we are making Windows 7," the company wrote. "We strongly believe that success for Windows 7 includes an open and honest, and two-way, discussion about how we balance all of these interests and deliver software on the scale of Windows. We promise and will deliver such a dialog with this blog."
It is quite apparent that Microsoft will be gauging early interest for the yet-to-be-revealed Windows 7 features and establish a measure to control or at least balance the news flow about Windows 7. Actual information coming out of this blog may actually be not as comprehensive as Windows might expect, as the authors said they will "not set expectations around the release that end up disappointing," like "features that don't make it, claims that don't stick, or support we don't provide."
So far, Microsoft kept a low profile on Windows 7 features. In terms of the base technology, we know that its kernel will be based on Windows Server 2008 kernel, which is an evolution of the Windows Vista kernel. It will keep the current driver model and will not be able to tap GPU for general-purpose computing. In short, Microsoft decided to play it safe and keep the Windows foundation in place. The new operating system comes in times when Microsoft is facing increasing competition on its own soil, especially by Apple whose OS X now leapfrogs Windows in terms of features and innovation. We can already hear Apple and pessimists saying that Windows 7 will be little more than a giant Windows Vista patch that uses multi-touch support as a sales pitch.
In fact, the only end-user feature that was promoted to this point was a multi-touch interface that will support multi-finger gestures in Windows, similar to the iPhone. Multi-touch will not be the default input method, but it will improve user interaction in all applications if the user chooses to use it. For example, you will be able to play a virtual piano by touching virtual keys on the screen, easily drag photos around the screen, rotate and zoom photos with two fingers and employ other multi-touch-based gestures to manipulate objects on the screen. The company first demonstrated these features at the WSJ's D: All Things Digital conference in May.
Microsoft is aiming Windows 7 for a late 2009 or early 2010 release (and according to our sources Q4 is the targeted time frame, since Microsoft does not want to miss the Christmas season again). If the company will be out by Christmas 2009, it will beat Apple in its own game, being the first to bring multi-touch user interface to the PC market. Apple's next OS X version dubbed Snow Leopard is schedule for an early 2009 released. For the first time, Apple's OS X won't be focused on new end-user features. Instead, Apple said it will optimize OS code, re-write it for full 64-bit support and support GPUs for general-purpose processing tasks.
[link to www.tgdaily.com]
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Woo Hoo!
User ID: 429261
8/17/2008 8:17 PM | | Re: Microsoft to unveil Windows 7 features next month | Quote |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 485924
8/17/2008 8:23 PM | | Re: Microsoft to unveil Windows 7 features next month | Quote |
So are they, or are they not sticking to the "copy and paste" code ethics they have been on since they stole the first version? |
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FAR
User ID: 412806
8/17/2008 8:23 PM | | Re: Microsoft to unveil Windows 7 features next month | Quote |
BluRay burning features could be one of them.
Unless you want to believe this person... no new features;
[link to www.theinquirer.net]
WINDOWS 7, AKA Me II SP1a, is going to disappoint, it is simply a warmed over Vista with shatteringly few new features. There is one new bullet point on the spec list seen by The INQUIRER, and that is the return of a real GDI.
If you recall, Vista promised three main pillars, middleware, a DB-based file system and a presentation layer. We won't bring up being written in managed code and a real shell, those weren't pillars, just main features. In typical MS fashion, they delivered on .5/3. It was slow and a resource hog, but luckily it drained laptop batteries about 15 per cent faster than XP.
The welcome Vista has received is likely due to the fact that the entire list of upsides is 'it looks pretty', while the downsides include shattering incompatibility, security theatre that annoys users enough to turn off the security, utter lack of speed, DRM infestation, inbuilt kittens, remote kill switches, rights-robbing 'genuine advantages', and resource hogging in ways not seen since Caligula. Did I mention it was pretty?
In grand fashion, MS is once again doing the wrong thing with Windows 7 and not delivering on much of what it promised for the last version. The 'new' program delivers one thing, a new GDI. Yes, you can extend the 'power' of pretty to all the apps on your desktop, with 3D widgets and the like, but it will also likely break compatibility with older apps.
Yeah, isn't that a great choice, you can write two versions so that the 95 per cent of your audience that doesn't have 7 can use your stuff, or you can just ignore the new features and have things work right for the vast majority. Yes, that is the extent of the 'new', extending pretty to apps. Pillar three complete after two tries. Don't ask us about one and two, maybe they will hit slides in 2014.
In the end, it looks like 7 is going to be more Windows dressing, little to no substance, and tidbits based on a kittens-infested and rights-removing rotten core. MS can hold it's head high and proudly proclaim that it shamelessly copied Apple far quicker this time around. And for them, that is real progress. µ
Read - for thy sustainer is the most bountiful one, who has taught the use of the pen, taught man what he did not know!
Nay verily man becomes grossly overweening, whenever he believes himself to be self-sufficient: for behold unto thy sustainer all must return.
Quran 96:3-8
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 483077
8/17/2008 8:24 PM | | Re: Microsoft to unveil Windows 7 features next month | Quote |
Screw that - I'm sticking with XP. |
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T.C 
Earth guy
User ID: 486366
8/17/2008 8:27 PM
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I'll stick with Windows XP thanks. I don't consider my role in life that of providing profit for corporations. And the 'they are removing support' excuse is irrelevant for a user in my position. Let me guess about Windows 7: it will require more RAM and more hard disk space - translation: our corporate hardware buddies (HP, Dell) need to continue to profit from consumers too!
Take your dogma and shove it! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 486591
8/17/2008 8:28 PM | | Re: Microsoft to unveil Windows 7 features next month | Quote |
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Elephant Worker
User ID: 73136
8/17/2008 9:32 PM
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...and so it begins.
and
Titor was right !!! (If you forget about the Olympics)
Has anyone else noticed this elephant in the lounge room ? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 465490
8/17/2008 9:36 PM | | Re: Microsoft to unveil Windows 7 features next month | Quote |
And, Windows 7 is, of course, based on Windows Vista. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 465490
8/17/2008 9:37 PM | | Re: Microsoft to unveil Windows 7 features next month | Quote |
I'll stick with Windows XP thanks. I don't consider my role in life that of providing profit for corporations. And the 'they are removing support' excuse is irrelevant for a user in my position. Let me guess about Windows 7: it will require more RAM and more hard disk space - translation: our corporate hardware buddies (HP, Dell) need to continue to profit from consumers too! Quoting: T.C
Support for Win XP will end in 2010. |
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FAR
User ID: 412806
8/17/2008 9:53 PM | | Re: Microsoft to unveil Windows 7 features next month | Quote |
Screw that - I'm sticking with XP. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 483077
I'd move to a 64bit OS when I get more than 4gb of ram.
Read - for thy sustainer is the most bountiful one, who has taught the use of the pen, taught man what he did not know!
Nay verily man becomes grossly overweening, whenever he believes himself to be self-sufficient: for behold unto thy sustainer all must return.
Quran 96:3-8
[link to www.islamicity.com]
__________
"Investors must look at this situation as a portfolio opportunity. If you have some extra land (condo developers and house flippers, listen closely), grow a vegetable garden, if you are ambitious, raise some sheep and cows, they will come in handy".
__________
How we got here: [link to www.hundredyearlie.com]
Cure: [link to www.youtube.com]
__________
Plasma aliens: [link to www.plasmametaphysics.com]
__________
Were your ancestors pedophiles? [link to www.youtube.com]
__________
[link to www.terrorism-illuminati.com] |
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Unwashed Penguin
User ID: 408056
8/17/2008 9:56 PM | | Re: Microsoft to unveil Windows 7 features next month | Quote |
THE NEW PHONE BOOKS ARE HERE!
THE NEW PHONE BOOKS ARE HERE!
meh
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 486661
8/17/2008 10:38 PM | | Re: Microsoft to unveil Windows 7 features next month | Quote |
Support for Win XP will end in 2010. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 465490
Support from Microsoft has been extended to 2014. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 428255
8/17/2008 11:29 PM | | Re: Microsoft to unveil Windows 7 features next month | Quote |
BluRay burning features could be one of them.
Unless you want to believe this person... no new features;
[ link to www.theinquirer.net]
WINDOWS 7, AKA Me II SP1a, is going to disappoint, it is simply a warmed over Vista with shatteringly few new features. There is one new bullet point on the spec list seen by The INQUIRER, and that is the return of a real GDI.
If you recall, Vista promised three main pillars, middleware, a DB-based file system and a presentation layer. We won't bring up being written in managed code and a real shell, those weren't pillars, just main features. In typical MS fashion, they delivered on .5/3. It was slow and a resource hog, but luckily it drained laptop batteries about 15 per cent faster than XP.
The welcome Vista has received is likely due to the fact that the entire list of upsides is 'it looks pretty', while the downsides include shattering incompatibility, security theatre that annoys users enough to turn off the security, utter lack of speed, DRM infestation, inbuilt kittens, remote kill switches, rights-robbing 'genuine advantages', and resource hogging in ways not seen since Caligula. Did I mention it was pretty?
In grand fashion, MS is once again doing the wrong thing with Windows 7 and not delivering on much of what it promised for the last version. The 'new' program delivers one thing, a new GDI. Yes, you can extend the 'power' of pretty to all the apps on your desktop, with 3D widgets and the like, but it will also likely break compatibility with older apps.
Yeah, isn't that a great choice, you can write two versions so that the 95 per cent of your audience that doesn't have 7 can use your stuff, or you can just ignore the new features and have things work right for the vast majority. Yes, that is the extent of the 'new', extending pretty to apps. Pillar three complete after two tries. Don't ask us about one and two, maybe they will hit slides in 2014.
In the end, it looks like 7 is going to be more Windows dressing, little to no substance, and tidbits based on a kittens-infested and rights-removing rotten core. MS can hold it's head high and proudly proclaim that it shamelessly copied Apple far quicker this time around. And for them, that is real progress. µ
Windows doesn`t need new features. It needs to be lighter, at first place, and more stable. |
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Concerned Reader
User ID: 201486
8/17/2008 11:33 PM | | Re: Microsoft to unveil Windows 7 features next month | Quote |
THE NEW PHONE BOOKS ARE HERE!
THE NEW PHONE BOOKS ARE HERE!
meh
Quoting: Unwashed Penguin 408056
HAHahahahahaHAahahah |
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FAR
User ID: 412806
8/18/2008 12:18 AM | | Re: Microsoft to unveil Windows 7 features next month | Quote |
Windows doesn`t need new features. It needs to be lighter, at first place, and more stable. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 428255
You could say so.
Read - for thy sustainer is the most bountiful one, who has taught the use of the pen, taught man what he did not know!
Nay verily man becomes grossly overweening, whenever he believes himself to be self-sufficient: for behold unto thy sustainer all must return.
Quran 96:3-8
[link to www.islamicity.com]
__________
"Investors must look at this situation as a portfolio opportunity. If you have some extra land (condo developers and house flippers, listen closely), grow a vegetable garden, if you are ambitious, raise some sheep and cows, they will come in handy".
__________
How we got here: [link to www.hundredyearlie.com]
Cure: [link to www.youtube.com]
__________
Plasma aliens: [link to www.plasmametaphysics.com]
__________
Were your ancestors pedophiles? [link to www.youtube.com]
__________
[link to www.terrorism-illuminati.com] |
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One Of My Names
User ID: 482612
8/18/2008 2:03 AM | | Re: Microsoft to unveil Windows 7 features next month | Quote |
Nothing spells doooooommmm like Microsoft. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 428255
8/18/2008 2:13 AM | | Re: Microsoft to unveil Windows 7 features next month | Quote |
Windows doesn`t need new features. It needs to be lighter, at first place, and more stable.
You could say so. Quoting: FAR
In fact I would say features are too many and that`s what makes it so heavy+buggy.
If i was a windows developer, i would take something like Windows 2000 and just make it compatible with the modern computers (Drivers, dual core processors etc). Of course, a corporation would never do that, especially Microsoft.  |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 479089
8/18/2008 2:52 AM | | Re: Microsoft to unveil Windows 7 features next month | Quote |
I cant say more, but it WILL be even worse than VISTA |
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FAR
User ID: 412806
8/18/2008 2:59 AM | | Re: Microsoft to unveil Windows 7 features next month | Quote |
Windows doesn`t need new features. It needs to be lighter, at first place, and more stable.
You could say so.
In fact I would say features are too many and that`s what makes it so heavy+buggy.
If i was a windows developer, i would take something like Windows 2000 and just make it compatible with the modern computers (Drivers, dual core processors etc). Of course, a corporation would never do that, especially Microsoft.
You can vlite vista.
Read - for thy sustainer is the most bountiful one, who has taught the use of the pen, taught man what he did not know!
Nay verily man becomes grossly overweening, whenever he believes himself to be self-sufficient: for behold unto thy sustainer all must return.
Quran 96:3-8
[link to www.islamicity.com]
__________
"Investors must look at this situation as a portfolio opportunity. If you have some extra land (condo developers and house flippers, listen closely), grow a vegetable garden, if you are ambitious, raise some sheep and cows, they will come in handy".
__________
How we got here: [link to www.hundredyearlie.com]
Cure: [link to www.youtube.com]
__________
Plasma aliens: [link to www.plasmametaphysics.com]
__________
Were your ancestors pedophiles? [link to www.youtube.com]
__________
[link to www.terrorism-illuminati.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 428255
8/18/2008 3:03 AM | | Re: Microsoft to unveil Windows 7 features next month | Quote |
Windows doesn`t need new features. It needs to be lighter, at first place, and more stable.
You could say so.
In fact I would say features are too many and that`s what makes it so heavy+buggy.
If i was a windows developer, i would take something like Windows 2000 and just make it compatible with the modern computers (Drivers, dual core processors etc). Of course, a corporation would never do that, especially Microsoft.
You can vlite vista.
I`ve tryed it, but it`s still as heavy. It`s just designed for many (useless) features and even if you remove them, no big difference. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 484538
8/18/2008 3:09 AM | | Re: Microsoft to unveil Windows 7 features next month | Quote |
In fact I would say features are too many and that`s what makes it so heavy+buggy.
If i was a windows developer, i would take something like Windows 2000 and just make it compatible with the modern computers (Drivers, dual core processors etc). Of course, a corporation would never do that, especially Microsoft.
They did do that.
They took Win2k (NT 5.0) and made the best OS they ever made, XP aka NT 5.1. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 474149
8/18/2008 3:16 AM | | Re: Microsoft to unveil Windows 7 features next month | Quote |
Posting from a rock solid, dvd burning, gaming, 1 tera byte storage, networked monster of a Win 2k machine |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 474149
8/18/2008 3:18 AM | | Re: Microsoft to unveil Windows 7 features next month | Quote |
oh ya I had a blue screen once or twice 6 years ago |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 428255
8/18/2008 3:19 AM | | Re: Microsoft to unveil Windows 7 features next month | Quote |
Posting from a rock solid, dvd burning, gaming, 1 tera byte storage, networked monster of a Win 2k machine Quoting: Anonymous Coward 474149
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 464327
8/18/2008 3:22 AM | | Re: Microsoft to unveil Windows 7 features next month | Quote |
not to rain on vista hating parade. But my vista 64 box has been up for 136 day's without a reboot. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 476208
8/18/2008 3:38 AM | | Re: Microsoft to unveil Windows 7 features next month | Quote |
not to rain on vista hating parade. But my vista 64 box has been up for 136 day's without a reboot. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 464327
For heaven's sake, get some sleep man! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 476208
8/18/2008 3:42 AM | | Re: Microsoft to unveil Windows 7 features next month | Quote |
Sure hope it's better than their I.E. 7!
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 464327
8/18/2008 3:48 AM | | Re: Microsoft to unveil Windows 7 features next month | Quote |
IE 7 is a decent browser, but after using Firefox for over 2 years i couldn't make myself use IE7 for more then a few days. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 233945
8/18/2008 4:44 AM | | Re: Microsoft to unveil Windows 7 features next month | Quote |
They did do that.
They took Win2k (NT 5.0) and made the best OS they ever made, XP aka NT 5.1. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 484538
yep, will also stick with xp til' the end of times. no more micro$|_|X support after 2014? fine with me! that's still an awful lot of time anyway! same applies to the company i work for, we also plan to stick with our xp til the end of times.
vista, windows 7 and the newest carp "midori" are all shitty and only are designed to make you pay for useless, restricting, spying and not working bullshit.
google microsofts plans for the "midori" OS...everybody with at least half a brain will understand for what it's made for: to cash an awful lot' of money from the consumer, to spy on the consumer, to have total control over the consumer, to restrict the consumer, to make the consumer dependent! screw all this new shit! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 233945
8/18/2008 4:53 AM | | Re: Microsoft to unveil Windows 7 features next month | Quote |
oh ya I had a blue screen once or twice 6 years ago Quoting: Anonymous Coward 474149
had 3 bsods in...ummmm...how many years....dunno...hmmmm...
never mind, they were my fault anyway:
1st bsod: i tweaked with the software and some firmware and what not...made a mistake -> boom bsod ... fixed that afterwards -> fine again.
2nd bsod: bought a new hdd -> was shitty and broken right from the beginning -> got it exchanged for free from the store -> worked again.
3nd bsod: tweaked with the boot.ini -> fixed that -> working again
you see: you only get bsods if you heavily tweak with your software or if your hardware is broken.
other than that, you will never ever have a bsod with xp.
w2k was pretty darn good too, but had a few errors in it (only noticeable if you heavily used the system)
since i got xp, i NEVER ever had to reinstall or what not...it's more stable and compatible like any other os i know of.
why should i pay a lot of $s for something which doesn't work anyway?
xp works (even if i use it VERY heavily and let it run numerous days) and that's all i need to know.
"never change a working system" - unknown author. |
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