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Obama Caught in two bold faced LIES in Debate Last Night.
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PACNWguy 
User ID: 366950
8/17/2008 11:10 PM
Report abusive post | Obama Caught in two bold faced LIES in Debate Last Night.
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“What’s the most gut-wrenching decision you’ve ever had to make?”Obama answered that opposing the war in Iraq was “as tough a decision that I’ve had to make, not only because there were political consequences but also because Saddam Hussein was a bad person and there was no doubt he meant America ill.” But Obama was a state senator in Illinois when Congress authorized the president to use force in Iraq. He didn’t have to make a decision on the war. That fact was a recurring issue in the Democratic primaries, when candidates Hillary Clinton, Joseph Biden, Christopher Dodd, and John Edwards argued that they, as senators, had to make a choice Obama didn’t have to make. And now he says it’s his toughest call.
“When did you go against party loyalty and maybe even against your own best interest for the good of America.”
“Well, I’ll give you an example that in fact I worked with John McCain on,” Obama said, “and that was the issue of campaign ethics reform and finance reform.” But it turned out that was an issue on which Obama had briefly allied with McCain and then jumped back to the Democratic mother ship, causing McCain to write Obama an angry note about the abandonment of what had been a principled position.
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OBAMA - THE FASTEST FAILED PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 471491
8/17/2008 11:17 PM | | Re: Obama Caught in two bold faced LIES in Debate Last Night. | Quote |
As usual,  
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~Ajax~
User ID: 471060
8/17/2008 11:19 PM | | Re: Obama Caught in two bold faced LIES in Debate Last Night. | Quote |
This news really shakes the foundation of my soul. |
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PACNWguy
User ID: 366950
8/17/2008 11:20 PM
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As usual,
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Care to tell me what is BS? Those are direct quotes from the Messiah. He fucking lied.
OBAMA - THE FASTEST FAILED PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 457129
8/17/2008 11:21 PM | | Re: Obama Caught in two bold faced LIES in Debate Last Night. | Quote |
You sir, as all of your posts are full of shit! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 486449
8/17/2008 11:22 PM | | Re: Obama Caught in two bold faced LIES in Debate Last Night. | Quote |
 over obama
i say screw obama |
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PACNWguy
User ID: 366950
8/17/2008 11:23 PM
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You sir, as all of your posts are full of shit! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 457129
OBAMA - THE FASTEST FAILED PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 190126
8/17/2008 11:24 PM | | Re: Obama Caught in two bold faced LIES in Debate Last Night. | Quote |
No, Osama is full of shit and a racist marxist |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 457129
8/17/2008 11:25 PM | | Re: Obama Caught in two bold faced LIES in Debate Last Night. | Quote |
You sir, as all of your posts are full of shit! Quoting: PACNWguy
No sir, your posts are nothing but spam. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 445386
8/17/2008 11:31 PM | | Re: Obama Caught in two bold faced LIES in Debate Last Night. | Quote |
PNACGUY, didn't you just get back from summer camp at "The Grove"?
Remember to keep the colon elevated and the swelling should go down. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 454051
8/17/2008 11:32 PM | | Re: Obama Caught in two bold faced LIES in Debate Last Night. | Quote |
Once again Obama opens his mouth and nothing but lies and exaggerations come out. |
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The Lone Ranger
Debunking Zetatalk for the sake of the people
User ID: 475827
8/17/2008 11:41 PM
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:McBush:
Life Is But A Dream!!
Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all."
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"ZetaTalk is all crap. Nancy has spent over ten years writing and compiling a huge web site full of total bullshit. It's a work of true insanity, but useful for nothing other than students of manic disorders." Anonymous Coward. User ID: 597174. 7/11/2009 8:22 PM
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I concede that Nancy and ZetaTalk are not the most "trustworthy" of "sources" because her reputation, credentials and track record leave a LOT to be desired. Melfy 9/21/09 |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 486449
8/17/2008 11:44 PM | |
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 193501
8/17/2008 11:49 PM | | Re: Obama Caught in two bold faced LIES in Debate Last Night. | Quote |
and it was so damn PEACEful earlier. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 485942
8/17/2008 11:51 PM | | Re: Obama Caught in two bold faced LIES in Debate Last Night. | Quote |
No, Osama is full of shit and a racist marxist Quoting: Anonymous Coward 190126
agreed |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 481674
8/17/2008 11:57 PM | | Re: Obama Caught in two bold faced LIES in Debate Last Night. | Quote |
Why can't we all agree to hate both candidates equally? I wonder what it's like to have your ass so thoroughly kissed like Obama's. I bet he doesn't even sit in chairs anymore, he probably just yells "pucker" then sits on someones face. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 357422
8/18/2008 12:13 AM | | Re: Obama Caught in two bold faced LIES in Debate Last Night. | Quote |
You mean that someone who didn't have to make a decision to oppose the Iraq war but says that he did make the choice to oppose it is a liar?
Your logic is not the same as mine. Whether he had to vote to support it or not is not the point: he said that he opposed the war and he did, in whatever way he chose. That is the truth.
Obama is still a liar, but McCain makes him look like Cinderella in comparison.
And of course, you, PNACGuy, love wars started on lies like in Iraq. Hussein was not predictable so had to removed so that the price of gas could go from a dollar thirty a gallon to 4 dollars. Hussein had nothing to do with 9/11 and Bush and Cheney are up to their eyeballs in it.
So only a man with some intelligence would oppose the Iraq war.
As Ben Fulford said, why not attack Al Qaeda and terrorist headquarters; Washington, DC. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 411486
8/18/2008 12:21 AM | | Re: Obama Caught in two bold faced LIES in Debate Last Night. | Quote |
Hey P you comin to the klan meeting thursday. |
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pacnwguy
User ID: 366950 (OP)
8/18/2008 12:24 AM | | Re: Obama Caught in two bold faced LIES in Debate Last Night. | Quote |
You mean that someone who didn't have to make a decision to oppose the Iraq war but says that he did make the choice to oppose it is a liar?
Your logic is not the same as mine. Whether he had to vote to support it or not is not the point: he said that he opposed the war and he did, in whatever way he chose. That is the truth.
Obama is still a liar, but McCain makes him look like Cinderella in comparison.
And of course, you, PNACGuy, love wars started on lies like in Iraq. Hussein was not predictable so had to removed so that the price of gas could go from a dollar thirty a gallon to 4 dollars. Hussein had nothing to do with 9/11 and Bush and Cheney are up to their eyeballs in it.
So only a man with some intelligence would oppose the Iraq war.
As Ben Fulford said, why not attack Al Qaeda and terrorist headquarters; Washington, DC. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 357422
What was the most gut wrenching decision you ever had to make in your whole fucking life?
That was his answer? He disagreed with the administration? That's it?
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Enlilson
The Sons of Enlil live.
User ID: 486323
8/18/2008 12:39 AM
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:McBush: Quoting: The Lone Ranger
Great Photo morph.
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diggin the rail in setting up for another turn. |
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anonymous coward
User ID: 477908
8/18/2008 1:15 AM | | Re: Obama Caught in two bold faced LIES in Debate Last Night. | Quote |
Well so what, the Rethuglicans have been lying for the last 8 years or longer and you don't seem to mind.
They lied about Iraq, they lied about 911, they lied about using depleated Uranium, they lied about the number of casualties in the war, the lied about global warming, they lied abou the economy, the lied about medicare, they lied about social security, they lied to Colin Powell, they lied about Georgia...the Republican party could not exist without lies..
So who cares if Obama mis spoke or something, at least he's not a lying dog republican who would sell their own grandmother if there was a profit in it... |
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Seneca
User ID: 486722
8/18/2008 1:43 AM | | Re: Obama Caught in two bold faced LIES in Debate Last Night. | Quote |
In addition, Obama asserted that the number of abortions had not decreased during the Bush Administration. The fact is that the number of abortions decreased to an historically lowest level since abortions were made legal. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 486732
8/18/2008 2:56 AM | | Re: Obama Caught in two bold faced LIES in Debate Last Night. | Quote |
Well so what, the Rethuglicans have been lying for the last 8 years or longer and you don't seem to mind.
They lied about Iraq, they lied about 911, they lied about using depleated Uranium, they lied about the number of casualties in the war, the lied about global warming, they lied abou the economy, the lied about medicare, they lied about social security, they lied to Colin Powell, they lied about Georgia...the Republican party could not exist without lies.. Quoting: anonymous coward 477908
Everybody expects Republicans to lie.
Bush th efirst lied six times under oath during th eIran-Contra investigation. Nobody cared. He's a Republican, of course he lies.
But Bill Clinton evaded telling the whole truth because a judge had defined sex to exclude oral, and th eNWO media crowed that was a lie from then till forever.
Same NWO media that pushed Bush's lies about Iraq on all of US.
So who cares if Obama mis spoke or something, at least he's not a lying dog republican who would sell their own grandmother if there was a profit in it... Quoting: anonymous coward 477908
Obama lies like a Republican and that upsets Democrats.
The NWO media lets him get away with it for the same reasdon they let Bushes get away with their lies.
Sold out to the NWO, body mind and soul.
btw same NWO media hates Clintons,
ever wonder why the same media that loves Bush and Obama, and likes McCain, hates Clintons. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 473681
8/18/2008 3:05 AM | | Re: Obama Caught in two bold faced LIES in Debate Last Night. | Quote |
Wheres the linky Seneca. I mean really. Do you expect me to believe something just because you said it.
Just because you believe everything Republicans say without a shred of evidence doesn't mean that I do. I WANT EVIDENCE. DO NOT POST WITHOUT AT LEAST A LINK.
Otherwise I will think of it as false, and treat it as such.
And while you brought up abortions.....
Lets face it.
The United States has averaged 1.3 to 1.5 million abortions/year over the past 20 years.
The reason women want to have abortions is because its inconvenient to have a child.
Most women who have abortions fall into these categories.
1. They whore around and don't want to suffer the consequences.
2. Having a baby would hurt their standard of living.
From 1973 through 1997 more than 35 million unborn babies have been aborted in the United States and if you take the average from those years and apply it to the decade since 1997 you come up with 15 million more babies. 50 Million more Americans in the US.
Advantages
We wouldn't need to import labor from Mexico.
(Think about this next time you complain about being outnumbered) The reason they have to import labor from mexico is because Americans are having fewer chilren
1.9 Children are born to every 2 people. Our numbers are shrinking. The social security the retired people are collecting now is being payed for by the immigrants because Americans do not have enough offspring to make the system work.
50 MILLION PEOPLE MURDERED.
Less than 2% of abortions are due to deformations and rape/incest.
The abortion rant was not directed negatively towards you Seneca I was merely agreeing with you on that point. I would like to see your evidence though. I found my own though here is the link.
[link to www.californiaprolife.org] |
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Spirit * Man !
User ID: 418811
8/18/2008 3:05 AM
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OMG its ...its ....its POLITICS MANNN !! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES !!!
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Man's symbiotic connection with the cosmos will be known and there is nothing which can stop that knowing. Because everything we all do everyday helps confirm that truth. It is just that we haven't reached the pinnacle of where it leads. But we will soon enough. We will either live or die with that knowledge. Between Heaven and Earth is us.
Be brave young warriors in truth.
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Only a miracle will save us now.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 486749
8/18/2008 3:06 AM | | Re: Obama Caught in two bold faced LIES in Debate Last Night. | Quote |
US media was neutral on Democratic primary until Hillary made a big mistake.
Next week, after that mistake, the US media began to cheerlead for Obama and bash Hillary Clinton.
Here is Hillary's mistake that turned the US media against her
December 29, 2007
Hillary Clinton told the Concord Moniter:
She would make clear to federal employees that they must heed the Constitution. |
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GraftedPromise U$ofA
User ID: 486874
8/18/2008 10:39 AM | | Re: Obama Caught in two bold faced LIES in Debate Last Night. | Quote |
“What’s the most gut-wrenching decision you’ve ever had to make?”Obama answered that opposing the war in Iraq was “as tough a decision that I’ve had to make, not only because there were political consequences but also because Saddam Hussein was a bad person and there was no doubt he meant America ill.” But Obama was a state senator in Illinois when Congress authorized the president to use force in Iraq. He didn’t have to make a decision on the war. That fact was a recurring issue in the Democratic primaries, when candidates Hillary Clinton, Joseph Biden, Christopher Dodd, and John Edwards argued that they, as senators, had to make a choice Obama didn’t have to make. And now he says it’s his toughest call.
“When did you go against party loyalty and maybe even against your own best interest for the good of America.”
“Well, I’ll give you an example that in fact I worked with John McCain on,” Obama said, “and that was the issue of campaign ethics reform and finance reform.” But it turned out that was an issue on which Obama had briefly allied with McCain and then jumped back to the Democratic mother ship, causing McCain to write Obama an angry note about the abandonment of what had been a principled position. Quoting: PACNWguy
Reads to me like Obama is telling "tall tales" if you don't want to call them lies. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 160240
8/18/2008 10:42 AM | | Re: Obama Caught in two bold faced LIES in Debate Last Night. | Quote |
BARAK OBAMA ROCKS! HE HAS MY VOTE.
McCain is too old, too angry, and mimics Bush. Yuk. |
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LOU DOBBS
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8/18/2008 10:43 AM | | Re: Obama Caught in two bold faced LIES in Debate Last Night. | Quote |
SHIT 4 BRAINS hannitized SHIT 4 BRAINA dildoheads SHIT 4 BRAIN paknwgay |
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Anonymous Coward
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8/18/2008 11:00 AM | |
Anonymous Coward
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8/18/2008 11:05 AM | | Re: Obama Caught in two bold faced LIES in Debate Last Night. | Quote |
He did not lie. He just changed his mind. |
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